Jack Attack Mafia (Day 5)

[Millium]

There really isn't any bad blood between me and Nanook
I will poke at him, and he will poke back

[sabie12]

can we not

like this game was going so well

suddenly its a sludge pool that i dont wanna go near

big rip

I know right this is what happens when I’m not in thread

Ah the thread instantly turns to sludge when you leave?

I can only assume it’s my calming presence that keeps things fun and lighthearted

Ah yes that must be it. I like that wisp called you the mother if the thread haha.

[Spacedaisy]

Ok regarding my vote

Here is what I have been chewing on, I believe that civs can overreact. It’s not even his behavior that has me ??? It’s the fact he said how could he know what Jay did with the info from the GTHs. We’ve discussed it at length plenty of times on the site. I find it pretty interesting but not something I would ever base a suspicion upon entirely. But I don’t understand how he can act like it might have just been something mentioned once in one of Jay’s multitude of posts. I just don’t understand his reaction to it to begin with and also the things he said about it as the conversation went on. Also, only one bad and he said it was because of the name? I don’t get it.

I feel like an equal amount of suspicion for FG, but I see her seeming to try to solve, so I put my vote on LC who has blatantly said he just wants to get Jay eliminated and doesn’t care about anything else. I’d rather give her more time personally.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Keep in mind that, despite all the Champs games that everyone lately has been playing, these Syndicate games are not Champs games. There's a reason I have never gone to a Champs game, despite being repeatedly asked each year.

is it because you don't know how to react to pressure without vomiting your emotions all over the thread?
did I hit the nail on the head?
do I get a gold star?

I know this is a struggle for you but try not to be a dick

please, I am far from the old Wisp, that was the kindest I could be without coming off like an ass
I believe it still stands, people need to learn how to handle pressure better, regardless of their alignment
not to mention this is a joke coming from you, given how you tend to deal with pressure as a mafia

I mean uh

When I’m Mafia I tend to lash out at pressure in certain player lists because it’s effective, not bevause I can’t help myself. In other player lists I respond differently.

But yeah what I’m saying is that there’s no actual point to saying what you did, it doesn’t progress the game state, all it serves to do is be rude to LC.

[Epignosis]

@JaggedJimmyJay
ill take a look at once point, I'm trying to finish stuff up
the only thing that comes to mind off the top of my head is like Epi?

I can't be the only one that thinks his posts are kinda forced?
but you guys are the ones with meta on him, so maybe I'm wrong

Nanook is NAI all around, if you wanna call him town-lean out of personal preference, w/e
Sabie has 12 posts, and they bring nothing to the game at all

I'm probably wrong about one of the no-posters, but there isnt much I can say there, till they actually do stuff

Tony claimed miller, but like it stops meaning anything after 4 people hard claim it?
still debating if his nervous tone in regards to pressure is townie or wolfie

P.S: Y'all need to chill, everytime I try to submit there are more posts

Last shit I heard about me was that I was all over the place. A real wild card.

Now it is that my posts are "kinda forced?"

[Funnygurl555]

There is literally no sense of direction at all coming from this grouping
Epi/Long/Funny

i feel personally attacked by this comment

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

can we not

like this game was going so well

suddenly its a sludge pool that i dont wanna go near

big rip

I know right this is what happens when I’m not in thread

Ah the thread instantly turns to sludge when you leave?

I can only assume it’s my calming presence that keeps things fun and lighthearted

Ah yes that must be it. I like that wisp called you the mother if the thread haha.

I think Jays more the mom type tbh, I’m like the fun uncle and caustic aunt rolled into one!

[Millium]

Keep in mind that, despite all the Champs games that everyone lately has been playing, these Syndicate games are not Champs games. There's a reason I have never gone to a Champs game, despite being repeatedly asked each year.

is it because you don't know how to react to pressure without vomiting your emotions all over the thread?
did I hit the nail on the head?
do I get a gold star?

I know this is a struggle for you but try not to be a dick

please, I am far from the old Wisp, that was the kindest I could be without coming off like an ass
I believe it still stands, people need to learn how to handle pressure better, regardless of their alignment
not to mention this is a joke coming from you, given how you tend to deal with pressure as a mafia

I mean uh

When I’m Mafia I tend to lash out at pressure in certain player lists because it’s effective, not bevause I can’t help myself. In other player lists I respond differently.

But yeah what I’m saying is that there’s no actual point to saying what you did, it doesn’t progress the game state, all it serves to do is be rude to LC.

meh, things just slip
I still tend to blurt out my feelings on certain playstyles in a way that is not so friendly

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Keep in mind that, despite all the Champs games that everyone lately has been playing, these Syndicate games are not Champs games. There's a reason I have never gone to a Champs game, despite being repeatedly asked each year.

is it because you don't know how to react to pressure without vomiting your emotions all over the thread?
did I hit the nail on the head?
do I get a gold star?

I know this is a struggle for you but try not to be a dick

please, I am far from the old Wisp, that was the kindest I could be without coming off like an ass
I believe it still stands, people need to learn how to handle pressure better, regardless of their alignment
not to mention this is a joke coming from you, given how you tend to deal with pressure as a mafia

I mean uh

When I’m Mafia I tend to lash out at pressure in certain player lists because it’s effective, not bevause I can’t help myself. In other player lists I respond differently.

But yeah what I’m saying is that there’s no actual point to saying what you did, it doesn’t progress the game state, all it serves to do is be rude to LC.

meh, things just slip
I still tend to blurt out my feelings on certain playstyles in a way that is not so friendly

Yeh, I get it, I get caustic sometimes too obviously

Just saying let’s make a concerted effort to cut back on things that only serve to make people feel bad vs. progress the game somehow

[Hally]

sprityo and wigly have still done nothing despite being here

idk why people are voting colin when he hasnt posted yet. its not really gonna do anything

[Millium]

ohh I forgot about Sprit
he can die too

[Millium]

a Colin vote isn't really doing anything?
don't really know why that is a train when he still hasn't posted

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

[Millium]

a Colin vote isn't really doing anything?
don't really know why that is a train when he still hasn't posted

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

[Millium]

just how did I manage to do that...

[sabie12]

sprityo and wigly have still done nothing despite being here

idk why people are voting colin when he hasnt posted yet. its not really gonna do anything

I'm not keeping my vote there it's just as a placeholder til I make a decision unless colin comes in and ends up being super scummy. I was leaning towards FG but there's still another 24 hours to see what happens.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Fwiw my colin vote is not a placeholder I genuinely want to kill him

[Hally]

Fwiw my colin vote is not a placeholder I genuinely want to kill him

this isnt really optimal

if he doesnt post he’s getting subbed out so idc

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Fwiw my colin vote is not a placeholder I genuinely want to kill him

this isnt really optimal

if he doesnt post he’s getting subbed out so idc

I strongly disagree and am largely pro-killing lurkers, especially when I feel good about a towncore

[sabie12]

Fwiw my colin vote is not a placeholder I genuinely want to kill him

Ah yeah see not very motherly of you.


Shrug I'm not opposed to a wilgy or spirityo vote at this point but I want to see how things progress. If nothing changes I may move my vote to one of them.

[Hally]

ok you do you

but like... if bimbo had been shot D1 in space invaders id never have gotten in the game and been able to clear my slot

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Nanook what do you think of FG and LC after recent developments?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

ok you do you

but like... if bimbo had been shot D1 in space invaders id never have gotten in the game and been able to clear my slot

And if drago had been shot the game would’ve been easier

Soneji was shot and was mafia

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nanook what do you think of FG and LC after recent developments?

FG remains high end POE imo, LC low end

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Nanook what do you think of FG and LC after recent developments?

FG remains high end POE imo, LC low end

Does "high" mean 'more' or 'less' preferred chop?

[Hally]

ok you do you

but like... if bimbo had been shot D1 in space invaders id never have gotten in the game and been able to clear my slot

And if drago had been shot the game would’ve been easier

Soneji was shot and was mafia

drago and soneji didnt zero post

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nanook what do you think of FG and LC after recent developments?

FG remains high end POE imo, LC low end

Does "high" mean 'more' or 'less' preferred chop?

High end is closer to town low end more want to kill

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It'd be neat and swell and stuff if some folks could give me a quick ranking (least-to-most suspicious/worthy of chopping) of the four players <20 posts:

KitsuShel
sprityo
DrWilgy
ColinIsCool

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

ok you do you

but like... if bimbo had been shot D1 in space invaders id never have gotten in the game and been able to clear my slot

And if drago had been shot the game would’ve been easier

Soneji was shot and was mafia

drago and soneji didnt zero post

I don’t draw a meaningful distinction between the two

[Millium]

day 1 is probably where I want to lynch someone who is wolfy and also a low poster
rather than someone who is top or almost top-posting, that at some points feels like they are malicious
Colin can certainly be a wolf, but we have no idea, I guess if game 6 has anything to say about that, sure?
but I am not voting a 50/50, I will wait till he gets yeeted or posts

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’m ride or die with kits

The rest can get it

[Epignosis]

does anyone know if nanook often fakes performing reaction tests as mafia?

I was going to go to bed but I was suddenly struck by the thought that if nanook was going to fake performing a reaction test to imitate himself gamesolving, he'd probably choose something other than the potato soup reaction test purely for optics reasons alone. He's also clearly aware that very few people agree with this kind of read and/or care about his ideas about how to gamesolve when he does stuff like the potato soup tell. I feel like if nanook was mafia he'd choose something that allowed him to influence town's opinion with his read.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

F O R
T H E
S O U P

[Spacedaisy]

It'd be neat and swell and stuff if some folks could give me a quick ranking (least-to-most suspicious/worthy of chopping) of the four players <20 posts:

KitsuShel
sprityo
DrWilgy
ColinIsCool

Least suspicious to most. I feel more town lean on KitsuShel now. I'll see if I can retrieve the post that changed my mind.

KitsuShel
DrWilgy
ColinisCool
Wilgy

[Hally]

It'd be neat and swell and stuff if some folks could give me a quick ranking (least-to-most suspicious/worthy of chopping) of the four players <20 posts:

KitsuShel
sprityo
DrWilgy
ColinIsCool

least

kitsu
colin
wigly
sprityo

most

idk why i ordered them this way. only one i feel good about is kitsu

[Hally]

wait is it wigly or wilgy

[Hally]

omg its wilgy

ive been typing it wrong this whole time

[Epignosis]

does anyone know if nanook often fakes performing reaction tests as mafia?

I was going to go to bed but I was suddenly struck by the thought that if nanook was going to fake performing a reaction test to imitate himself gamesolving, he'd probably choose something other than the potato soup reaction test purely for optics reasons alone. He's also clearly aware that very few people agree with this kind of read and/or care about his ideas about how to gamesolve when he does stuff like the potato soup tell. I feel like if nanook was mafia he'd choose something that allowed him to influence town's opinion with his read.

I don't know if I have seen that, but I wouldn't put it past him. I have seen him do real reaction tests as a civilian. I'm not sure I'd call potato soup a reaction test lol, but it doesn't bother me.

I have 0 doubt that it is well within nanook's scum range to pretend to do a reaction test when he is scum. (For lack of a better word, that is what I am calling his read in the context of this post.) I am more interested in whether or not he's likely to choose this reaction test specifically to fake. For the reasons I mentioned, it is on the face of it more advantageous for scum nanook to choose a less wacky reaction test to fake. It allows him to justify and springboard his narrative off of it, and is more likely to convince town that he's gamesolving.

The following is a list of reasons why scum nanook might theoretically choose the potato soup test to fake.

1) He knows it's the kind of thing he does as town all the time and thinks people will townread him for it.

2) He predicted that me or someone like me would believe that he is less likely to fake a potato soup reaction test, and is trying to get townread off it.

3) It is a less "logical" reaction test so he has to work less hard to justify whatever reads he wants to fake having as a result of it.

I think knowing how often he has faked reaction tests as scum affects how I view the possibility of 1) and 2).

Potato Soup reaction test? What the hell?

I'm done. I am obsolete.

I've seen the term "potato" before but thought it was some sort of joke (i.e., a riff on "couch potato," perhaps). Now it's a term that MEANS something tactical in Mafia? Time to retire and move back to Florida.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

least - Kids You Shell - ColonIsCold - Doctor Wiggly - spirit YO - most

[sabie12]

It'd be neat and swell and stuff if some folks could give me a quick ranking (least-to-most suspicious/worthy of chopping) of the four players <20 posts:

KitsuShel
sprityo
DrWilgy
ColinIsCool

I kind of thought kitsushels miller claim was weird but other than that okay
Colin is no read
Drwilgy
Spirityo

[sabie12]

does anyone know if nanook often fakes performing reaction tests as mafia?

I was going to go to bed but I was suddenly struck by the thought that if nanook was going to fake performing a reaction test to imitate himself gamesolving, he'd probably choose something other than the potato soup reaction test purely for optics reasons alone. He's also clearly aware that very few people agree with this kind of read and/or care about his ideas about how to gamesolve when he does stuff like the potato soup tell. I feel like if nanook was mafia he'd choose something that allowed him to influence town's opinion with his read.

I don't know if I have seen that, but I wouldn't put it past him. I have seen him do real reaction tests as a civilian. I'm not sure I'd call potato soup a reaction test lol, but it doesn't bother me.

I have 0 doubt that it is well within nanook's scum range to pretend to do a reaction test when he is scum. (For lack of a better word, that is what I am calling his read in the context of this post.) I am more interested in whether or not he's likely to choose this reaction test specifically to fake. For the reasons I mentioned, it is on the face of it more advantageous for scum nanook to choose a less wacky reaction test to fake. It allows him to justify and springboard his narrative off of it, and is more likely to convince town that he's gamesolving.

The following is a list of reasons why scum nanook might theoretically choose the potato soup test to fake.

1) He knows it's the kind of thing he does as town all the time and thinks people will townread him for it.

2) He predicted that me or someone like me would believe that he is less likely to fake a potato soup reaction test, and is trying to get townread off it.

3) It is a less "logical" reaction test so he has to work less hard to justify whatever reads he wants to fake having as a result of it.

I think knowing how often he has faked reaction tests as scum affects how I view the possibility of 1) and 2).

Potato Soup reaction test? What the hell?

I'm done. I am obsolete.

I've seen the term "potato" before but thought it was some sort of joke (i.e., a riff on "couch potato," perhaps). Now it's a term that MEANS something tactical in Mafia? Time to retire and move back to Florida.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who reacted like this to that post. I thought I had missed some new fangled mafia terms somewhere.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I kind of thought kitsushels miller claim was weird

Tell me more!

[Epignosis]

Honestly, most of my posts don't get read. If I want people to vote for you, a little extra is sometimes needed.

Do you genuinely think that people are more likely to read your posts when you use a lot of all caps and post walls of text about how JJJ is definitely scum?

I think you know very well that people just skim over the specifics of posts like that and just leave with the general impression that LC was violently attacking JJJ without thinking too deep about the details of how and why it happened. Which is why I'm starting to suspect that it is W/W.

I'll take it. Lynch him first though.

Do most people do this?

Fuck.

Definitely time to retire if true.

I find this post to be in Alison's favor. It's an attempt to assuage LC rather than rile him up against someone I don't this is mafia.

[Spacedaisy]

So I looked back over kitsu's posts and now I'm thinking I may have confused him with someone else.

That said, his reaction to learning what a miller role is seemed genuine to me and I would still keep him in the top spot.

Now I gotta figure out who I am confusing him with...

[Long Con]

And how does Alison assume what I know? I don't know that's true. I don't play like that's true ever.

[Epignosis]

Honestly, most of my posts don't get read. If I want people to vote for you, a little extra is sometimes needed.

Do you genuinely think that people are more likely to read your posts when you use a lot of all caps and post walls of text about how JJJ is definitely scum?

I think you know very well that people just skim over the specifics of posts like that and just leave with the general impression that LC was violently attacking JJJ without thinking too deep about the details of how and why it happened. Which is why I'm starting to suspect that it is W/W.

I'll take it. Lynch him first though.

A JJJ lynch is not going to materialize in the near future because he is being widely townread. I think you know this. If JJJ is your mafia buddy, you want me to push him because you know nothing will come of it. Instead I am going to push you.

[VOTE: LC] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

And how does Alison assume what I know? I don't know that's true. I don't play like that's true ever.

Is Alison mafia?

[Epignosis]

I find it hard to believe that a civilian Long Con just blows the hell up like that without even asking me any questions or anything. Straight from 0 to murder rage. I am capable of quick turns on players, but that's not something I can recall feeling before.

Alison just accused you and LC and then voted for LC while acknowledging that nobody was coming for your head.

Huh.

[sabie12]

I kind of thought kitsushels miller claim was weird

Tell me more!

Not a lot more to it. I found it weird they didn't know they were a miller before others started talking about it and the way it was worded. Though I realize that might just be how they post and didn't realize what the term was before.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I find it hard to believe that a civilian Long Con just blows the hell up like that without even asking me any questions or anything. Straight from 0 to murder rage. I am capable of quick turns on players, but that's not something I can recall feeling before.

Alison just accused you and LC and then voted for LC while acknowledging that nobody was coming for your head.

Huh.

She seems the type to draw these kinds of associations per her digging into Hally/FG and Hally/LC. I'm not bothered. Are you bothered?

[Long Con]

And how does Alison assume what I know? I don't know that's true. I don't play like that's true ever.

Is Alison mafia?

I don't know.