Jack Attack Mafia (Day 5)

[Epignosis]

Now that everyone is here please tell me what you think of my Hally/FG theory

I left to do more important things (SimCity 4), but I don't much much stock in it. I think Hally is good for a major reason you mentioned yourself.

[Epignosis]

Comments coming soon.

I don't put much stock in this exercise either, but LC has one "bad" and it's Kitsushel? Over Colin and Wilgy?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

my no yeet pile atm is

epi
jay
daisy
wisp
nanook
sabie?
tony?

alison could be there maybe but idk. i simply dont have any confidence in my ability to read her. she’s someone i think id probably only get to by getting her teammates first. thinking about it more and i dont think drawing a comparison to how she played last game will be that fruitful because her whole team was in a very bad spot early on, including herself. i have no idea what she’d be capable of as scum when she has less pressure but my guess is “a lot”

colin
sprityo
kitsu
fg
wigly
lc

these are the names left out. feels like a pretty basic sorting but eh, gotta start somewhere

your scum pile is lhf fwiw. syndicate's good at both projecting town and distancing from team members. don't buy in to the ~pOe~s thanks

Syndicate is really bad at clearing out the POE and it leads to a lot of otherwise unnecessary losses tbh

back to back.

It was a direct response

[Long Con]

Comments coming soon.

I don't put much stock in this exercise either, but LC has one "bad" and it's Kitsushel? Over Colin and Wilgy?

Why should I think Colin and Wilgy are bad?

[Hally]

Comments coming soon.

I don't put much stock in this exercise either, but LC has one "bad" and it's Kitsushel? Over Colin and Wilgy?

Why should I think Colin and Wilgy are bad?

why should you think kitsu is?

[Millium]

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]
so what's your thoughts on this his one red lean?
didn't even notice it honestly

is the most obvious scum? or is this just TWTBAW

[Hally]

Binary process of elimination style. Names are not ordered within groups:

TonyStarkPrime
Spacedaisy
Wisp
KitsuShel
sabie12
Epignosis
Alison
Nanook
Hally

ColinIsCool
Long Con
DrWilgy
sprityo
Funnygurl555

this is exactly how id sort everyone too ftr

[Funnygurl555]

i am back

[Epignosis]

Ok, so. I’ve finally gotten through the entire thread. And this basically boils down to y’all chatting/arguing with each other and metagaming the first day? Or am I misreading?

its mafia? what should we be doing?
and what do you mean by meta-gaming?

if you are talking about mechanical reads
I got Hally at claiming miller
and whoever the dude that claimed doctor, as bad day 1 lynches

Who the hell claimed doctor Day 1?

[Epignosis]

2. sprityo was killed last game i played because he was magically scum read by everyone except me basically. and he flipped town. do i think he's town now? i mean not necessarily. he's null for me

This is a lot of words that say nothing.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hello everyone. My name is Jack and I am most definitely a doctor.

Yeah Wisp for additional clarity -- this isn't a doctor claim. This is DrWilgy's catchphrase.

[Funnygurl555]

JJJ is scum. He's played countless games with me and knows perfectly well that this is how my Day 1 generally goes. I don't tend to jump on a whole bunch of people with scumreads or add people to my "towncore". "Shortage of suspicion" from me should easily be identified as NAI, and the fact that he's trying to prod suspicion on me for it is solid proof that he's not on the level. He's generally trying too hard to do the Town JJJ Song & Dance and impress the newcomers, but I've played with him for years, and this is not town Jimmy. GTH exercise not even halfway into Day 1?? WTFmullet? What a dog and pony show, how many people hadn't even posted yet? GTH reads? Are you kidding me?

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine and I don't really give a damn that I'll probably get lynched today for this. He's scum. Keep him around for the good times if you want.

yaaaaaas *claps*

also y'all kitsu named the three people i always see sus'd. naaaaah don't tr that slot yet

wisp is town

[Funnygurl555]

long con's town

[Epignosis]

Ok, so. I’ve finally gotten through the entire thread. And this basically boils down to y’all chatting/arguing with each other and metagaming the first day? Or am I misreading?

Basically yes

Cool, cool. Makes sense. I’m unfamiliar with a few terms being batted around, is there a glossary on this site somewhere? I think I get the gist for the most part, though.

Not that I’m aware of but lots of us are happy to help with any lingo

Learning a new sites terminology can be pretty daunting/irritating sometimes!

Try being a fucking English teacher.

Do you know how tilting it is when your students start discussing their various "thots" and you initially regard that as a positive indicator?

[Epignosis]

Also yes I agree there’s very likely at least one if not more scum in the zero to very low posters.

literally rand%

Why is that equal to a random distribution?

if we assume a 3:1 wolf ratio, there's likely at least a wolf in the low - no posters.

anyways everyone except you have too many "bads" to make sense really. 1. and 2. where the hell did spacedaisy's reads even come from? or the sprityo reads. are you guys really gonna miskill him again? i think the blanket suspicion is a good look imo but eh it's too early to form any type of read on that slot

y'all

y'all

im not really understanding what you’re up in arms about?

i don't trust early game town cores

One wonders why.

[Millium]

Ok, so. I’ve finally gotten through the entire thread. And this basically boils down to y’all chatting/arguing with each other and metagaming the first day? Or am I misreading?

its mafia? what should we be doing?
and what do you mean by meta-gaming?

if you are talking about mechanical reads
I got Hally at claiming miller
and whoever the dude that claimed doctor, as bad day 1 lynches

Who the hell claimed doctor Day 1?

no one, apparently a meme went over my head

[Epignosis]

Ok, so. I’ve finally gotten through the entire thread. And this basically boils down to y’all chatting/arguing with each other and metagaming the first day? Or am I misreading?

its mafia? what should we be doing?
and what do you mean by meta-gaming?

if you are talking about mechanical reads
I got Hally at claiming miller
and whoever the dude that claimed doctor, as bad day 1 lynches

Who the hell claimed doctor Day 1?

no one, apparently a meme went over my head

Yeah, DrWilgy. I'm reading up on that revelation now.

[Epignosis]

and I generally believe that having to fake orgasmic back and forths with a partner amps up the awkwardness

Honey, I can tell you some stories...

[Millium]

[mention]Long Con[/mention]
you put on quite a spectacle before based off tiny pressure
self meta defenses are the easiest to argue in defense of yourself if you are a wolf, turning that around to argue "someone should no better", feels like a fake read to justify a bad vote

orrrr maybe they actually believe this, which I am still kinda inclined to believe

[mention]Funnygurl555[/mention]
why am I town?

[Long Con]

Comments coming soon.

I don't put much stock in this exercise either, but LC has one "bad" and it's Kitsushel? Over Colin and Wilgy?

Why should I think Colin and Wilgy are bad?

why should you think kitsu is?

I said bad because his name reminds me of Kidseoman.

[Millium]

Lmao..........

[Epignosis]

literally rand%

Why is that equal to a random distribution?

if we assume a 3:1 wolf ratio, there's likely at least a wolf in the low - no posters.

anyways everyone except you have too many "bads" to make sense really. 1. and 2. where the hell did spacedaisy's reads even come from? or the sprityo reads. are you guys really gonna miskill him again? i think the blanket suspicion is a good look imo but eh it's too early to form any type of read on that slot

y'all

y'all

im not really understanding what you’re up in arms about?

i don't trust early game town cores

why? who specifically do you not trust?

lots of early game reads are based on meta and tone which makes it easy for a scum to get town read early game

anyways first of all i dont trust jjj

Yet your vote is on me.

[Long Con]

Why is that equal to a random distribution?

if we assume a 3:1 wolf ratio, there's likely at least a wolf in the low - no posters.

anyways everyone except you have too many "bads" to make sense really. 1. and 2. where the hell did spacedaisy's reads even come from? or the sprityo reads. are you guys really gonna miskill him again? i think the blanket suspicion is a good look imo but eh it's too early to form any type of read on that slot

y'all

y'all

im not really understanding what you’re up in arms about?

i don't trust early game town cores

why? who specifically do you not trust?

lots of early game reads are based on meta and tone which makes it easy for a scum to get town read early game

anyways first of all i dont trust jjj

Yet your vote is on me.

I guess it's second of all then.

[Funnygurl555]

It's never too early to solve the game. I'm here to slaughter, maim, and destroy with my teammates by my side. That IS civilian JJJ, perhaps with a newfound confidence and inspiration that you haven't seen for a while. I did hate playing this game for the last two years after all.

*siiiiiiighhhhh* this is a very townie thing to say. fine jjj, ur still lame though

Why are there 1900 posts already?

Gonna be one of these games.

yo fr tho

[Funnygurl555]

ya my vote is on you. it might move, but rn i don't think ur town sry

[Funnygurl555]

I guess I caught up.

Not sure how to take all these miller claims. It's an easy way to be like hey I'm not scum but I'm going to seem like it don't pay attention to that. Not sure the likelihood that all of them are legit.

is this really all

Voted [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine cuz they cute.

Could vote Alison. A song is stuck in my head and it's all their fault.

this is not RVS anymore, why are you voting Nanook

Lmao yes it is.

LOL amazing

I think there’s a decent chance that the collective town play is constricting the mafia already and they’re lashing out. It’s not hard to believe that I’m just right about FG and LC. And together they’ve decided to fight out of it by challenging my posture as a consensus town read and leader.

ok once ur scum reads are right i'll jive with u

I think there’s a decent chance that the collective town play is constricting the mafia already and they’re lashing out. It’s not hard to believe that I’m just right about FG and LC. And together they’ve decided to fight out of it by challenging my posture as a consensus town read and leader.

I'm with you on the FG suspicion. Not as sure about LC but could be.

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.

[Funnygurl555]

@Funnygurl555
why am I town?

i like ur mindset

why, are u not town >:O

[Epignosis]

I like KitshShel.

Agreed.

[Epignosis]

FG please summarize in a sentence or two what makes me an evil yucky butt.

your scum reads are easy, you're pocketing people by being NICE to them, and you're controlling the town

Who is JJJ controlling?

he just made y'all do gth reads on everyone, meanwhile i can't even get a text back -________-

Nobody made anybody do anything. I was around, saw the clock, said "fuck it" and went with it. If JJJ had asked ten minutes later I wouldn't have been online. Most of the time I don't even bother with it.

[Spacedaisy]

Alright I have to figure out where I want to vote after all that...

[Epignosis]

FG please summarize in a sentence or two what makes me an evil yucky butt.

your scum reads are easy, you're pocketing people by being NICE to them, and you're controlling the town

Who is JJJ controlling?

he just made y'all do gth reads on everyone, meanwhile i can't even get a text back -________-

this isn't really controlling the town though. it's like saying I'm controlling you by making you answer my questions. It's just the regular process of gamesolving.

but more importantly it doesn't reflect JJJ as scum in any way. you seemed to imply that he was manipulating people and trying to get them to sheep his reads and that doesn't reflect at all in the way he asked us to do the GTH

y'all sheeped his reads anyways. well i mean not you necessarily, but the reads are very similar

So what? Which of them were incorrect?

[Epignosis]

how experienced are you? just so i can gauge you better

Mafia was first introduced to Realms back in 2007. I played heavily back then. Had a break from the forum for a few years, and recently came back there to play during quarantining.

This is my first time on this site, so I’m adjusting to playstyle. Realms games tend to be heavily themed and roles are sometimes crazily complex. Players here seem to be a lot more aggressive (to me), especially for a Day one. =)

We have a variety of offerings. Pyre, for example, which I am currently hosting, is more what you are describing.

Anyway, welcome!

[Funnygurl555]

Ok, so. I’ve finally gotten through the entire thread. And this basically boils down to y’all chatting/arguing with each other and metagaming the first day? Or am I misreading?

For the most part I think this has been about getting reads on each other. The game started somewhat spammy, but it has solidified into a well-oiled machine of Mafia work. Some of that is arguing and some of that metagaming, but not all of it. Do you have feelings about any players after catching up?

Gut feeling might be that sprityo, long con, and tony are scum.

Welcome To The Syndicate.

okay yeah this could have been lifted from pretty much any game in the last nine months

YOOO fr tho. anyways tsp's townie so far imo

I'm not going to townread FG for accusing the same person I did. Actually, I think I challenged FG in the same post I accused JJJ, but it was ignored.

what was the post? sry if i ignored it

[Funnygurl555]

FG please summarize in a sentence or two what makes me an evil yucky butt.

your scum reads are easy, you're pocketing people by being NICE to them, and you're controlling the town

Who is JJJ controlling?

he just made y'all do gth reads on everyone, meanwhile i can't even get a text back -________-

this isn't really controlling the town though. it's like saying I'm controlling you by making you answer my questions. It's just the regular process of gamesolving.

but more importantly it doesn't reflect JJJ as scum in any way. you seemed to imply that he was manipulating people and trying to get them to sheep his reads and that doesn't reflect at all in the way he asked us to do the GTH

y'all sheeped his reads anyways. well i mean not you necessarily, but the reads are very similar

So what? Which of them were incorrect?

first of all i'm town

[Funnygurl555]

tsp, nanook (hmmm), hally, alison (... hmmmm...), wisp, long con

my towns

[JaggedJimmyJay]

FG, what was it about that post of mine that made you think I’m a civilian? I would quote but mobile

[Epignosis]

Do you have a favorite meal?

That is an odd question, but I’m sure you have a reason. Anything I don’t have to cook since that’s my job, lol. But I’d eat potato soup every day...

I am not a professional cook (my wife is a professional cake artist), but I do all the cooking here for the family (see the previous parenthetical). Are you at a restaurant?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Keep in mind that, despite all the Champs games that everyone lately has been playing, these Syndicate games are not Champs games. There's a reason I have never gone to a Champs game, despite being repeatedly asked each year.

is it because you don't know how to react to pressure without vomiting your emotions all over the thread?
did I hit the nail on the head?
do I get a gold star?

I know this is a struggle for you but try not to be a dick

[Funnygurl555]

FG, what was it about that post of mine that made you think I’m a civilian? I would quote but mobile

ok well i don't think ur a civilian YET i'm not there yet

but your explanation for getting into the game more seemed genuine. i'm a sucker for ate what can i say

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

can we not

like this game was going so well

suddenly its a sludge pool that i dont wanna go near

big rip

I know right this is what happens when I’m not in thread

[sabie12]

can we not

like this game was going so well

suddenly its a sludge pool that i dont wanna go near

big rip

I know right this is what happens when I’m not in thread

Ah the thread instantly turns to sludge when you leave?

[Millium]

Keep in mind that, despite all the Champs games that everyone lately has been playing, these Syndicate games are not Champs games. There's a reason I have never gone to a Champs game, despite being repeatedly asked each year.

is it because you don't know how to react to pressure without vomiting your emotions all over the thread?
did I hit the nail on the head?
do I get a gold star?

I know this is a struggle for you but try not to be a dick

please, I am far from the old Wisp, that was the kindest I could be without coming off like an ass
I believe it still stands, people need to learn how to handle pressure better, regardless of their alignment
not to mention this is a joke coming from you, given how you tend to deal with pressure as a mafia

[Hally]

im once again not really feeling fg is scum

[Hally]

can we not reignite the sludginess thanks

[Hally]

Keep in mind that, despite all the Champs games that everyone lately has been playing, these Syndicate games are not Champs games. There's a reason I have never gone to a Champs game, despite being repeatedly asked each year.

is it because you don't know how to react to pressure without vomiting your emotions all over the thread?
did I hit the nail on the head?
do I get a gold star?

I know this is a struggle for you but try not to be a dick

please, I am far from the old Wisp, that was the kindest I could be without coming off like an ass
I believe it still stands, people need to learn how to handle pressure better, regardless of their alignment
not to mention this is a joke coming from you, given how you tend to deal with pressure as a mafia

both of you better stop

[Spacedaisy]

I’m going to [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Explanation coming

[Long Con]

Keep in mind that, despite all the Champs games that everyone lately has been playing, these Syndicate games are not Champs games. There's a reason I have never gone to a Champs game, despite being repeatedly asked each year.

is it because you don't know how to react to pressure without vomiting your emotions all over the thread?
did I hit the nail on the head?
do I get a gold star?

I know this is a struggle for you but try not to be a dick

Don't worry, I'm quite sure I deserved it.

[Millium]

There is literally no sense of direction at all coming from this grouping
Epi/Long/Funny

Nanook is trying to be the mother of the thread apparently

at this point I could see my vote ending up anywhere in
Epi/Long*/Funny/Wilgy/Tony

I put the asterick after Long, because he is giving me trouble, like I said, he is probably the most obvious wolf, or TWTBAW

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]
I still love you

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

can we not

like this game was going so well

suddenly its a sludge pool that i dont wanna go near

big rip

I know right this is what happens when I’m not in thread

Ah the thread instantly turns to sludge when you leave?

I can only assume it’s my calming presence that keeps things fun and lighthearted

[sabie12]

Throwing a placeholder vote on colin for now since I have not yet decided where I want to vote and still have 24 hours to do so. Maybe he'll come play with us. Does he know the game started? [VOTE: colin] aubergine


Daisy I'm interested to hear your reasons for the LC vote. I've always found him hard to read.