Jack Attack Mafia (Day 5)

[Hally]

i frankly dont know that ive ever seen town with a yeetproof role? ive only ever seen anti-town or neutral roles have that kind of thing

[Long Con]

A role that can save a player from a yeet is common enough here. Maybe she's that role, and saved herself.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’ve seen both

[TonyStarkPrime]

alison was frozen

why would w!alison be frozen with you and lc as wagons? what does this mean?

their third teammate

[Funnygurl555]

they were still frozen for a bit though even with nanook protesting. they didn't need the extra 15 minutes to shift their votes off of you or me.

I intended to use all of that time to come to my final decision.

Did you intend to force me to vote for you?

nope. didn't expect you do to it really. was hoping i wouldn't have the most votes

also ok tsp, full claim:

i'm a miller who can't be executed. i'll eat a maf/3p kp-- that would help the town since i've had some suspicion on me the whole time-- but the town as a whole *can't kill me*. ever.

i'm town.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

That’s fucking weird


Re: alison I doubt she’s the kind of wolf that freezes tbh

[Hally]

why did i agree to play this game

weh

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

why did i agree to play this game

weh

I know right

I was fully intending to slank this game and now I have 200+ posts D1 hee ho

[JaggedJimmyJay]

"It is impossible to chop me" is another "please claim in your first post" situation.

[Hally]

nanook why didnt you want us to yeet fg if we moved off lc? did you explain that yet?

[Hally]

"It is impossible to chop me" is another "please claim in your first post" situation.

yes

a townie who has that role should always claim it upfront

like we just wasted a yeet and now we have no flip to go off of

[JaggedJimmyJay]

We're stuck asking the question "is it really a forever role, or is this b/s from a 1-shot chop-proof mafioso?" and that's an annoying question.

What's done is done, so whatever.

[Funnygurl555]

y'all coulda also not done it

[Hally]

does anyone else have a role we need to know about?

obviously use your discretion as far as what part of your role, if any, town needs to know about and what parts you should keep hidden from mafia

but like, really anything that messes with yeets or votes or investigations probably needs to be claimed upfront. transparency is town’s friend

speak now or forever hold your piece

[Hally]

y'all coulda also not done it

not really relevant

you always claim that upfront if youre town. its a necessity

[Funnygurl555]

y'all coulda also not done it

not really relevant

you always claim that upfront if youre town. its a necessity

how would i even know i've never seen this before

[Hally]

y'all coulda also not done it

not really relevant

you always claim that upfront if youre town. its a necessity

how would i even know i've never seen this before

im not chastising you for not doing so. i get this game has weird shit people havent seem before. im saying for the future

[JaggedJimmyJay]

y'all coulda also not done it

I quite literally could not have not done it. You forced my vote.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Total chop-proof power makes flavor sense in one particularly obvious way:

Jack's catchphrase is that he cannot be chopped. So here we go. Okay.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

real circle jerk forming up in the poll right now

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I am willing to entertain suspicion of Alison. All of those associative reads she was promoting throughout Day 1 are a bit hard to stomach.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

nanook why didnt you want us to yeet fg if we moved off lc? did you explain that yet?

I refer you to my previous statement:

I’m not anticipating a single cop existing in this game tbh

I’m pretty annoyed we didn’t get those extra 10 minutes I was planning a “naw we’re just killing LC” swing back, and now we have no flip at all. Not great.

Actually it is a good thing. And that's kind of uncalled for and suspicious. Why add chaos intentionally to the end of the day? How is that even remotely town?

Seeing how willing people are to move based on your claim then flipping you is hugely informative imo

With the addition that I already had a reasonably firm grasp who was willing to kill FG, less firm on sprit. Coupled with movement to FG already happening and not wanting to make it too hard to swing back to LC.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

An important bit of information is that I always intended to swing things back to LC, the day ending ten minutes early precluded that from happening.

[Hally]

i really wonder if fg is just town

im having trouble rationalizing her play from a wolf pov

she hard defends lc when shes his counterwagon knowing that if shes yeeted her role will be triggered and she wont flip, which is bound to draw a lot of suspicion

i just... why

on the other hand she couldnt not defend lc given her stated read on him

its just all... very strange

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[mention]Funnygurl555[/mention] can you claim your flavor please?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

An important bit of information is that I always intended to swing things back to LC, the day ending ten minutes early precluded that from happening.

Likewise I was content enough to just vote sprityo at the end, but I needed permission. But then day phase go byebye

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

The thread: we’ve got ten minutes, it’s all good

Jack: deadline go brrr

[Hally]

i want those 15 min back! *shakes fist*

[JaggedJimmyJay]

i really wonder if fg is just town

im having trouble rationalizing her play from a wolf pov

she hard defends lc when shes his counterwagon knowing that if shes yeeted her role will be triggered and she wont flip, which is bound to draw a lot of suspicion

i just... why

on the other hand she couldnt not defend lc given her stated read on him

its just all... very strange

The last and only other game in which I had to generate a read on FG required me to weigh a huge pile of evidence against her against an internal sensation that she just wasn't mafia (she was a civilian) -- the conflict was severe. While I'm not necessarily there at this point in Jack Attack, it seems fair to suggest that reading Funnygurl555 is by design an adventure all its own.

[Hally]

weh

[TonyStarkPrime]

they were still frozen for a bit though even with nanook protesting. they didn't need the extra 15 minutes to shift their votes off of you or me.

I intended to use all of that time to come to my final decision.

Did you intend to force me to vote for you?

nope. didn't expect you do to it really. was hoping i wouldn't have the most votes

also ok tsp, full claim:

i'm a miller who can't be executed. i'll eat a maf/3p kp-- that would help the town since i've had some suspicion on me the whole time-- but the town as a whole *can't kill me*. ever.

i'm town.

who. are. you.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Total chop-proof power makes flavor sense in one particularly obvious way:

Jack's catchphrase is that he cannot be chopped. So here we go. Okay.

unfortunately this is a duh

[TonyStarkPrime]

my feelings:
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[TonyStarkPrime]

like jack would obviously have a character that can't be chopped.

[TonyStarkPrime]

that should be claimed post one but okay.

[TonyStarkPrime]

is it always town? yeah probably, could just be a great given fake claim, not sure how those were distributed not going to think about it. Play the game, not the host and all that.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I have several more mechanical thoughts but I'll have to wait to see how they play out.

FG should be shot by a vigilante.

[TonyStarkPrime]

well, I guess we can try again.

[TonyStarkPrime]

assuming 12-3 that's in line

[Hally]

is it always town? yeah probably, could just be a great given fake claim, not sure how those were distributed not going to think about it. Play the game, not the host and all that.

i mean, it literally cant be a fake claim because we just saw its very real

[Hally]

my feelings:
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villagery mindmeld

[TonyStarkPrime]

mafia role: you may stop one lynch. the day will end with a no lynch.
mafia fake claim: you are unlynchable!

[TonyStarkPrime]

why did the day end ten minutes early. has this been answered.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

why did the day end ten minutes early. has this been answered.

Host error

[TonyStarkPrime]

why did the day end ten minutes early. has this been answered.

Host error

okay missed it. that makes me slightly less immediately suspicious

[TonyStarkPrime]

is that a town derp did I just town derp? Clear me and add me to the no mdf list

[Spacedaisy]

Ok here are my thoughts, having now caught up.

1. [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] Did you not notice the date on the video? I feel fairly certain the title means nothing, only the fact that it was Jack Sparrow and he escaped, as FG did. Also feel mildly weirded out by the fact you made so much of that title. If Jack had loaded that video for this game, I'd be down to believe it, but no.

2. Someone explain what it means to say Alison was "frozen"

3. Is it not also possible that FG could be a godfather role and the video and role claim could easily be cover?

4. Even as I say that, I lean towards FG being 3p or Town, at the moment. If FG is Jack Sparrow (this assumes we believe it is not cover) I can't see that role being wolf.

5. I have asked a few times and I don't recall getting a good answer, but then we are 40 pages deep and maybe I just don't remember it, can someone who suspects TSP give me an explanation because I am seeing town all over him personally.

6. Epi, you don't have to give me a rainbow list or anything but would you kindly tell me who you trust most, and who you'd like to see dead atm?

[Hally]

i dont think characters are tied to alignments daisy

[Spacedaisy]

i dont think characters are tied to alignments daisy

Someone who claimed miller flat out said, their character was "kind of an asshole"

Also, it's not uncommon on our site.

That said, I won't disregard what you say completely, because I don't recall if I've played a Jack game before.

[Alison]

what's also informative is that 4 people left their votes on lc despite a claim, which is the mechanically incorrect thing to do. as nanook pointed out, voting for me was also a bad move since me and lc are linked for some reason. then we have sprit, who people were scum reading anyways. y'all let him live

i was gonna keep mum but y'all are just... NOT headed in the right direction lmfao

i think alison's scum btw. telling eod

He didn't claim shit and everyone being so willing to get off his wagon the moment he even hinted at having a power role is way more telling. Either hard claim or get out. If he is town then mafia know his hinting at a PR is truthful and will shoot him anyway, so he loses nothing by telling the truth.