Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pm
I could yeet 1612 tbh
1612/Jeraldo wagons or 1612/Lav wagons?
Either one I guess, but I was thinking the latter because if 1612 and Lavender are both town, that seems like the least likely scum possibility as of right now.
If 1612 and jeraldo are both town, the team could be Lavender/speed/Cobbler which seems slightly more plausible to me right now than speed/Cobbler/Michelle.
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pmBecause my flip gives no information and you are suggesting that we use our one misbanish on me instead. Please reconsider
Why would your flip give no information?
You would still be stuck on the Michelle and Lavendar and have no info between them which I think you would end up voting wrong in a final 7 situation and losing. like what, i really dont get it. am i crazy??
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:42 pm
1612, I think the fact that you have only one scum team possibility actually makes you very NOT town.
my read on that is based off how solely how i feel on the lavendar and michelle situation. if im wrong then I still don't hink I am far too off the mark with the rest of my POE. the latter two are just POE and there is nothing to suggest that those two can't be a team with either of the two we are talking about
But here's the thing, if we misyeet today we're at F7 where only one stray vote loses us the game.
Well this sucks, my town read just left the game because he was being tunneled and no one but me actually listened to him and read his logs so he can't even push michelle with me. i feel so alone LOL
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pmBecause my flip gives no information and you are suggesting that we use our one misbanish on me instead. Please reconsider
Why would your flip give no information?
You would still be stuck on the Michelle and Lavendar and have no info between them which I think you would end up voting wrong in a final 7 situation and losing. like what, i really dont get it. am i crazy??
Didn't you go to great lengths to establish an anti-Michelle legacy? And emphasize how you can read Lavender really well because you have meta with him? If you were flipping town what makes you think we would vote wrong in that scenario?
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:47 pmEither one I guess, but I was thinking the latter because if 1612 and Lavender are both town, that seems like the least likely scum possibility as of right now.
If 1612 and jeraldo are both town, the team could be Lavender/speed/Cobbler which seems slightly more plausible to me right now than speed/Cobbler/Michelle.
It's splitting hairs though. I really don't know.
I still think 1612/Lav could be s/s wagons, and they were just wanting to yeet Michelle. But why the vote on you though? Only thing that makes it weird.
I think 1612's play displays an agenda. He wants to white knight me for my trust.
And then being strict with only one real scum team possibility? It doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't sound like someone who lacks information about the game.
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:49 pm
Well this sucks, my town read just left the game because he was being tunneled and no one but me actually listened to him and read his logs so he can't even push michelle with me. i feel so alone LOL
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:42 pm
1612, I think the fact that you have only one scum team possibility actually makes you very NOT town.
This is accurate actually.
Like if I was town 1612 here, how the heck am I this confident as to what the gamesolve is?
I may read Michelle scum and I may even think Lavender is town based on the Michelle thunderdome, but how the heck am I that certain on Urist?
I've even been not actively considering Dizzy or Urist, and well, *gestures at my posts*.
Yeah, I'm not one hundred percent on Lavender too even though I'm confident Lavender/Michelle is V/W. And I've put you, Dizzy and Urist out of my mind. This confidence is baffling to me, because there's no smoking gun that a townie would conceivably have to be super certain what the team is at this point.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pmBecause my flip gives no information and you are suggesting that we use our one misbanish on me instead. Please reconsider
Why would your flip give no information?
You would still be stuck on the Michelle and Lavendar and have no info between them which I think you would end up voting wrong in a final 7 situation and losing. like what, i really dont get it. am i crazy??
So you want to flip Michelle specifically, but what if she's town? Wouldn't we then have the same exact problem but with your name in there instead?
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pmBecause my flip gives no information and you are suggesting that we use our one misbanish on me instead. Please reconsider
Why would your flip give no information?
You would still be stuck on the Michelle and Lavendar and have no info between them which I think you would end up voting wrong in a final 7 situation and losing. like what, i really dont get it. am i crazy??
Didn't you go to great lengths to establish an anti-Michelle legacy? And emphasize how you can read Lavender really well because you have meta with him? If you were flipping town what makes you think we would vote wrong in that scenario?
my flip gets you nowhere with the michelle and lavendar vote. you paired me with both of them, it really doesn't do anything once i flip blue
Really bad use of our one mis-banish
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:49 pm
Well this sucks, my town read just left the game because he was being tunneled and no one but me actually listened to him and read his logs so he can't even push michelle with me. i feel so alone LOL
If you are town I will ask you not to use AtE with me.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:49 pm
Well this sucks, my town read just left the game because he was being tunneled and no one but me actually listened to him and read his logs so he can't even push michelle with me. i feel so alone LOL
Does s/s literally say this? Lol
Good point.
Maybe it's 1612/Michelle/?
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:47 pmEither one I guess, but I was thinking the latter because if 1612 and Lavender are both town, that seems like the least likely scum possibility as of right now.
If 1612 and jeraldo are both town, the team could be Lavender/speed/Cobbler which seems slightly more plausible to me right now than speed/Cobbler/Michelle.
It's splitting hairs though. I really don't know.
I still think 1612/Lav could be s/s wagons, and they were just wanting to yeet Michelle. But why the vote on you though? Only thing that makes it weird.
That I'm not quite sure of. Perhaps Lavender could have been trying to get people to think TWTBAW, which ngl worked on me just a bit there but also I'm going to consider all the possibilities anyway so.
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pmBecause my flip gives no information and you are suggesting that we use our one misbanish on me instead. Please reconsider
Why would your flip give no information?
You would still be stuck on the Michelle and Lavendar and have no info between them which I think you would end up voting wrong in a final 7 situation and losing. like what, i really dont get it. am i crazy??
So you want to flip Michelle specifically, but what if she's town? Wouldn't we then have the same exact problem but with your name in there instead?
That problem doesn't exist at least for my perspective. I would say my opinion on the situation is not v/w. I just hink Michelle's push for Lavendar was awful for picking specific quotes to push. It's not a if one flips villager the other is scum to me, its just lavendar is more town than michelle.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:53 pm
I'll feel bad if 1612 is town here ngl
But any town misyeet would suck the worst. I just want that red flip to blow the game open
Right, I mean, I'll feel bad too. But like... we need to try to go for the flip we think is most likely to flip red right now. F7 is the worst case scenario. At least if we flip red today then it gets knocked down to F5 worst case scenario, and we then have interactive analyses that can be done. That makes a huge difference.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:53 pm
I'll feel bad if 1612 is town here ngl
But any town misyeet would suck the worst. I just want that red flip to blow the game open
Please temper your expectations. Most red flips won't blow the game open - the waters are too murky here. It is almost certain that several townies are extremely wrong about the gamestate.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pmPlease temper your expectations. Most red flips won't blow the game open - the waters are too murky here. It is almost certain that several townies are extremely wrong about the gamestate.
How wrong about the game state though? Actually, what even is the game state anymore? I feel I'm having a lot of "well, it's either this or that" which we don't really have room for at this point
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 pm
I mean, these are the three wagons I'm most comfortable with, but I'm still stressed, cause we can't have a misyeet
These are the three I'm most comfortable with as well, choosing between them is the issue.
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm
I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.
if i was a scum team with michelle i would hard push lavendar since Alison was already tunneled. i don't understand how you think I am distancing here. It's just michelle IN MY HONEST OPINION take it or leave it
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm
I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.
if i was a scum team with michelle i would hard push lavendar since Alison was already tunneled. i don't understand how you think I am distancing here. It's just michelle IN MY HONEST OPINION take it or leave it
Alright, tell me more about your read on Cobbler. Why is it Cobbler and not Dizzy or me?
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm
I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.
if i was a scum team with michelle i would hard push lavendar since Alison was already tunneled. i don't understand how you think I am distancing here. It's just michelle IN MY HONEST OPINION take it or leave it
Alright, tell me more about your read on Cobbler. Why is it Cobbler and not Dizzy or me?
mp7 i gave you my full reads list and you PROMISED to digest it. cmonnn
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 pm
I mean, these are the three wagons I'm most comfortable with, but I'm still stressed, cause we can't have a misyeet
Stress leads to bad decisions. Also remember that this game is played for no stakes. Just calmly look at the evidence in front of you and select the player with the highest probability of being mafia. Keep cool and you'll do fine - your reads are good.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm
I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.
if i was a scum team with michelle i would hard push lavendar since Alison was already tunneled. i don't understand how you think I am distancing here. It's just michelle IN MY HONEST OPINION take it or leave it
You are voting Lavender. It costs you nothing to distance Michelle a little.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm
I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.
if i was a scum team with michelle i would hard push lavendar since Alison was already tunneled. i don't understand how you think I am distancing here. It's just michelle IN MY HONEST OPINION take it or leave it
Alright, tell me more about your read on Cobbler. Why is it Cobbler and not Dizzy or me?
mp7 i gave you my full reads list and you PROMISED to digest it. cmonnn
I did, but like... I'm missing it still. Why can't either of us be a deepwolf here? Help me get there.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 pm
I mean, these are the three wagons I'm most comfortable with, but I'm still stressed, cause we can't have a misyeet
Stress leads to bad decisions. Also remember that this game is played for no stakes. Just calmly look at the evidence in front of you and select the player with the highest probability of being mafia. Keep cool and you'll do fine - your reads are good.
Thank you, Alison. I don't mean to get into a frenzy. I can't help getting stressed and emotionally invested in games. It's part of the fun for me, even if I kind of hate it at the time lol. But you're right. It's just a game. Either I'm right, or I'm wrong, and I'll play and learn I guess.
GTH, right now, who is the best lynch for you between these three? Gut reaction.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 pm
I mean, these are the three wagons I'm most comfortable with, but I'm still stressed, cause we can't have a misyeet
Stress leads to bad decisions. Also remember that this game is played for no stakes. Just calmly look at the evidence in front of you and select the player with the highest probability of being mafia. Keep cool and you'll do fine - your reads are good.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 pm
I mean, these are the three wagons I'm most comfortable with, but I'm still stressed, cause we can't have a misyeet
Stress leads to bad decisions. Also remember that this game is played for no stakes. Just calmly look at the evidence in front of you and select the player with the highest probability of being mafia. Keep cool and you'll do fine - your reads are good.
Thank you, Alison. I don't mean to get into a frenzy. I can't help getting stressed and emotionally invested in games. It's part of the fun for me, even if I kind of hate it at the time lol. But you're right. It's just a game. Either I'm right, or I'm wrong, and I'll play and learn I guess.
GTH, right now, who is the best lynch for you between these three? Gut reaction.