Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Hally]

Night actions against me have an 80% chance of failing. I was thinking of it as just kills. I just looked again. I think I am the blocker.

so hally is mafia?

LC if ur 3p (and u were town before u became 3p), from ur pov, hally is mafia, right?

amy, u are correct that from your pov, hally manufactured a red check on u

sorry for jumping on ur throat immediately at day start. i got overexicted

i calmed down now. apologies!

14/30

how did i manufacture a check???? if lc is telling the truth my redirect to him just failed. why does that make me a liar. i did it but it didn’t work

[Hally]

how did tutuu’s peek on me fail though?

[Long Con]

I never put my night resistance out there because I hoped I could absorb some damage for you hardworking townsfolk. If you're not mafia, Hally, keep redirecting to me.

[Long Con]

how did tutuu’s peek on me fail though?

That, I have nothing to do with.

[tutuu]

Night actions against me have an 80% chance of failing. I was thinking of it as just kills. I just looked again. I think I am the blocker.

so hally is mafia?

LC if ur 3p (and u were town before u became 3p), from ur pov, hally is mafia, right?

amy, u are correct that from your pov, hally manufactured a red check on u

sorry for jumping on ur throat immediately at day start. i got overexicted

i calmed down now. apologies!

14/30

how did i manufacture a check???? if lc is telling the truth my redirect to him just failed. why does that make me a liar. i did it but it didn’t work

u dont redirect LC. u redirect amy. amy is the recipient of your action. LC isnt the recipient of your action. Right? Can u confirm?

am i wrong to think if LC is 3p he knows Hally is mafia from his pov? @eveyone

15/30

linki: idk. roleblocker? ascetic? could u have lied about redirecting amy, and instead u redirected me to long con?

[Amy]

i've seen redirectors that visit with both halves of the ability and i've seen redirectors that only visit with one

hally would probably have to clarify which they are

trying to figure out what the fuck's going on

question for the peanut gallery while i do so: why did WWH die and not Nanook

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Even if LC is telling the truth tho it doesn’t explain why amy went to tutu instead of LC yeah? Cause it should’ve sent amy to LC and then Amy wouldn’t get a check

Right?

[Hally]

Night actions against me have an 80% chance of failing. I was thinking of it as just kills. I just looked again. I think I am the blocker.

so hally is mafia?

LC if ur 3p (and u were town before u became 3p), from ur pov, hally is mafia, right?

amy, u are correct that from your pov, hally manufactured a red check on u

sorry for jumping on ur throat immediately at day start. i got overexicted

i calmed down now. apologies!

14/30

how did i manufacture a check???? if lc is telling the truth my redirect to him just failed. why does that make me a liar. i did it but it didn’t work

u dont redirect LC. u redirect amy. amy is the recipient of your action. LC isnt the recipient of your action. Right? Can u confirm?

am i wrong to think if LC is 3p he knows Hally is mafia from his pov? @eveyone

15/30

linki: idk. roleblocker? ascetic? could u have lied about redirecting amy, and instead u redirected me to long con?

no

my redirect also targets lc

amy was the primary, lc was the secondary. so it still fails 80% of the time if he is involved

raises the question of how my redirect N1 went through though. there was only a 20% chance of that happening if lc isn’t lying

[nutella]

Night actions against me have an 80% chance of failing. I was thinking of it as just kills. I just looked again. I think I am the blocker.

oH this makes sense actually lmaooooo

Night actions against me have an 80% chance of failing. I was thinking of it as just kills. I just looked again. I think I am the blocker.

so hally is mafia?

LC if ur 3p (and u were town before u became 3p), from ur pov, hally is mafia, right?

amy, u are correct that from your pov, hally manufactured a red check on u

sorry for jumping on ur throat immediately at day start. i got overexicted

i calmed down now. apologies!

14/30

ok... I need to slow down and think about this


once again thinking is above my paygrade smh


but yeah i think w!hally makes sense now


lol also why cant it be nanook fuck

[Hally]

i've seen redirectors that visit with both halves of the ability and i've seen redirectors that only visit with one

hally would probably have to clarify which they are

trying to figure out what the fuck's going on

question for the peanut gallery while i do so: why did WWH die and not Nanook

its not explicitly told to me whether my secondary target counts

i assume it does though because lc is still involved in it

[Long Con]

Night actions against me have an 80% chance of failing. I was thinking of it as just kills. I just looked again. I think I am the blocker.

so hally is mafia?

LC if ur 3p (and u were town before u became 3p), from ur pov, hally is mafia, right?

amy, u are correct that from your pov, hally manufactured a red check on u

sorry for jumping on ur throat immediately at day start. i got overexicted

i calmed down now. apologies!

14/30

how did i manufacture a check???? if lc is telling the truth my redirect to him just failed. why does that make me a liar. i did it but it didn’t work

u dont redirect LC. u redirect amy. amy is the recipient of your action. LC isnt the recipient of your action. Right? Can u confirm?

am i wrong to think if LC is 3p he knows Hally is mafia from his pov? @eveyone

15/30

linki: idk. roleblocker? ascetic? could u have lied about redirecting amy, and instead u redirected me to long con?

And did Amy's action go to you as well? Like, I don't bounce night actions away.

[nutella]

tsp how dare you do this to me right after the misery that was jack attack

[Amy]

i kinda actually think hally might be a villager now?

i need to reread how this day started out

linki [mention]nutella[/mention] i have a greenpeek on nanook as sharing a country/school with me when he claimed italian. he could still be a wolf through that somehow i guess? but he also blasted bob. odds are he's just town, i'm just trying to find the logic behind killing WWH over him

[tutuu]

lol also why cant it be nanook fuck

well thank fucking god i had the plan for amy to peek nanook

for which iaafr disparaged me for 2 days straight

16/30

[Long Con]

Even if LC is telling the truth tho it doesn’t explain why amy went to tutu instead of LC yeah? Cause it should’ve sent amy to LC and then Amy wouldn’t get a check

Right?

Yeah, even if Amy and I were m/m, going to tutuu is still not what one would expect.

[Hally]

how does w!me make sense

how are you all reading this and going “hally is a wolf”

no lol

my redirect failed because of lc’s thing OR because lc and amy are both mafia OR because amy is ascetic

these are the options. none of these options involve me needing to be lying

[Amy]

there is actually a nonzero chance hally redirected tutuu to a truthful long con but

why would they do that even as a wolf redirector

i don't see the logic

[mention]Long Con[/mention] are you investigative immune in any way

[tutuu]

lol also why cant it be nanook fuck

well thank fucking god i had the plan for amy to peek nanook

for which iaafr disparaged me for 2 days straight

16/30

17/30

@everyone

if amy is town nanook can only be mafia if he is exactly GREEK AND CLASSICIST

can u pls think of a classicism greek philosopher?

also does the school/nationality of the philosophers match with the philosopher intself?

i think for most ppl does?

i kinda think amy's doesnt? i googled the guy and i thought he was like a priest or smth. why not theology for her?

[iaafr]

lol also why cant it be nanook fuck

well thank fucking god i had the plan for amy to peek nanook

for which iaafr disparaged me for 2 days straight

16/30

if amys anything but actual green, which still has decent probability fmpov, the plan was still questionable

and i also still maintain killing nutella over benson wouldve been better for the gamestate now though i guess this whole mech conflict makes nutella unlikely again?

[Hally]

if i was a wolf i’d just kill tutuu not redirect her lmao

how the fuck would w!me know redirecting tutuu to lc would make her peek fail

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Wait so N1

LC says he was targeted, Hally says she redirected

But last night hally’s redirect doesn’t work

What I’m wondering is why it works N1 but not last night...

Unless radishes didn’t actually have KP??

Idfk what’s happening rn

[Amy]

fuck, like...

hally legit thought they had a redcheck on me

where are the wolves

[Hally]

Wait so N1

LC says he was targeted, Hally says she redirected

But last night hally’s redirect doesn’t work

What I’m wondering is why it works N1 but not last night...

Unless radishes didn’t actually have KP??

Idfk what’s happening rn

there was a 20% chance of success according to lc so it’s not at all impossible it went through N1 but not last night

[Long Con]

there is actually a nonzero chance hally redirected tutuu to a truthful long con but

why would they do that even as a wolf redirector

i don't see the logic

@Long Con are you investigative immune in any way

80% chance of immunity to night actions.

Wait so N1

LC says he was targeted, Hally says she redirected

But last night hally’s redirect doesn’t work

What I’m wondering is why it works N1 but not last night...

Unless radishes didn’t actually have KP??

Idfk what’s happening rn

It could have happened. One obvious way is that it's the 20% on N1. I do know another way as well; the actual way.

[Hally]

there is actually a nonzero chance hally redirected tutuu to a truthful long con but

why would they do that even as a wolf redirector

i don't see the logic

@Long Con are you investigative immune in any way

80% chance of immunity to night actions.

Wait so N1

LC says he was targeted, Hally says she redirected

But last night hally’s redirect doesn’t work

What I’m wondering is why it works N1 but not last night...

Unless radishes didn’t actually have KP??

Idfk what’s happening rn

It could have happened. One obvious way is that it's the 20% on N1. I do know another way as well; the actual way.

what is this way

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Wait so N1

LC says he was targeted, Hally says she redirected

But last night hally’s redirect doesn’t work

What I’m wondering is why it works N1 but not last night...

Unless radishes didn’t actually have KP??

Idfk what’s happening rn

there was a 20% chance of success according to lc so it’s not at all impossible it went through N1 but not last night

Wait so it’s like

80% for EACH action, not a blanket 80%??

[mention]Long Con[/mention]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

For someone ostensibly pro town you’re being mysterious / shady af dude

[Hally]

also why the fuck are you all listening to acclaimed non town to ascertain whether or not i’m a lying wolf

what incentive does lc have to be entirely truthful here

he’s not town lmao

[iaafr]

should we just flip lc and proceed from there...

not suggesting early hammer or anything but

seems to be the safe play idk man

[nutella]

fuck, like...

hally legit thought they had a redcheck on me

where are the wolves

lol god damn "where are the wolves" this shit does really feel like jack attack fuck meeeeeeee

there is actually a nonzero chance hally redirected tutuu to a truthful long con but

why would they do that even as a wolf redirector

i don't see the logic

@Long Con are you investigative immune in any way

80% chance of immunity to night actions.

Wait so N1

LC says he was targeted, Hally says she redirected

But last night hally’s redirect doesn’t work

What I’m wondering is why it works N1 but not last night...

Unless radishes didn’t actually have KP??

Idfk what’s happening rn

It could have happened. One obvious way is that it's the 20% on N1. I do know another way as well; the actual way.

/what/

[Long Con]

there is actually a nonzero chance hally redirected tutuu to a truthful long con but

why would they do that even as a wolf redirector

i don't see the logic

@Long Con are you investigative immune in any way

80% chance of immunity to night actions.

Wait so N1

LC says he was targeted, Hally says she redirected

But last night hally’s redirect doesn’t work

What I’m wondering is why it works N1 but not last night...

Unless radishes didn’t actually have KP??

Idfk what’s happening rn

It could have happened. One obvious way is that it's the 20% on N1. I do know another way as well; the actual way.

what is this way

Can't tell you.

Wait so N1

LC says he was targeted, Hally says she redirected

But last night hally’s redirect doesn’t work

What I’m wondering is why it works N1 but not last night...

Unless radishes didn’t actually have KP??

Idfk what’s happening rn

there was a 20% chance of success according to lc so it’s not at all impossible it went through N1 but not last night

Wait so it’s like

80% for EACH action, not a blanket 80%??

@Long Con

I don't know. Each I guess? What's the difference in the analysis?

For someone ostensibly pro town you’re being mysterious / shady af dude

I'm only pro-town by choice, I just need to hitch on to a scum lynch and I'm home free. So check the attitude, friendito.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

also why the fuck are you all listening to acclaimed non town to ascertain whether or not i’m a lying wolf

what incentive does lc have to be entirely truthful here

he’s not town lmao

I mean I don’t entirely disagree with you

But I’m still fucking confused

And like

It’s possible LC is telling the truth even if I think it’s best for him to die today probably

[Long Con]

should we just flip lc and proceed from there...

not suggesting early hammer or anything but

seems to be the safe play idk man

It is exactly not the safe play. I want to get to scum lynched as long as I'm one of the voters. That's why I hammered Benson. That's why I acted the way I did with the Proto lynch.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

“Only pro town by choice” is like

Ominous af kek

[iaafr]

should we just flip lc and proceed from there...

not suggesting early hammer or anything but

seems to be the safe play idk man

It is exactly not the safe play. I want to get to scum lynched as long as I'm one of the voters. That's why I hammered Benson. That's why I acted the way I did with the Proto lynch.

oh right you hammered benson

that just makes me want to kill you more

[Hally]

well lc just says he knows why my redirect on him worked N1 but can’t tell us

so if that’s true there’s absolutely no reason why we both can’t be telling the truth and it doesn’t make me a wolf

the only thing we don’t know is how tutuu got blocked

[Long Con]

also why the fuck are you all listening to acclaimed non town to ascertain whether or not i’m a lying wolf

what incentive does lc have to be entirely truthful here

he’s not town lmao

I mean I don’t entirely disagree with you

But I’m still fucking confused

And like

It’s possible LC is telling the truth even if I think it’s best for him to die today probably

That is a cold and fucked-up attitude, man. You don't have to lynch me, you have to lynch wolves.

[iaafr]

like why from town perspective should i care about helping you achieve wincon

unless you actually case the scum for us

go find the scum lc

[Amy]

LC would you like to claim what "the actual way" is so that we're more inclined to allow you to survive to see night 5

19/60

[Long Con]

should we just flip lc and proceed from there...

not suggesting early hammer or anything but

seems to be the safe play idk man

It is exactly not the safe play. I want to get to scum lynched as long as I'm one of the voters. That's why I hammered Benson. That's why I acted the way I did with the Proto lynch.

oh right you hammered benson

that just makes me want to kill you more

It was nothing personal, just going for the win condition. I would have hammered any player just in case they were scum.

[Long Con]

LC would you like to claim what "the actual way" is so that we're more inclined to allow you to survive to see night 5

19/60

The only reason I will withhold information is so I don't end up like Dizzy.

[nutella]

like why from town perspective should i care about helping you achieve wincon

unless you actually case the scum for us

go find the scum lc

this



ok i really need to step away from this and make dinner and maybe stuff will make sense when i will return (narrator: it won't)

[Hally]

if lc was able to switch to becoming 3p at the start is it possible that others were too??????

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I mean if you’re just gonna sit there and be the “Mysterious 3P Claim (tm)” idk why you’d expect us to accommodate you when killing not town is the safe play for us

[Hally]

LC would you like to claim what "the actual way" is so that we're more inclined to allow you to survive to see night 5

19/60

The only reason I will withhold information is so I don't end up like Dizzy.

please ask tony if you can say it and if he says yes say it

[Long Con]

like why from town perspective should i care about helping you achieve wincon

unless you actually case the scum for us

go find the scum lc

You should care about wasting a lynch on someone that doesn't further your win condition.

LOL you guys, you think you can treat me like a dog now, pull my chain and find the scum for you?

[Long Con]

LC would you like to claim what "the actual way" is so that we're more inclined to allow you to survive to see night 5

19/60

The only reason I will withhold information is so I don't end up like Dizzy.

please ask tony if you can say it and if he says yes say it

I already know the answer, and I will not say it. It's not going to solve the game for you; you don't need this info.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like if you’re not gonna actively help us and just sit there and say “I’m not gonna do anything just gonna hammer any body that’s at TK-1,” idk why you expect us to care about keeping you alive tbh

[Hally]

like why from town perspective should i care about helping you achieve wincon

unless you actually case the scum for us

go find the scum lc

You should care about wasting a lynch on someone that doesn't further your win condition.

LOL you guys, you think you can treat me like a dog now, pull my chain and find the scum for you?

i mean you don’t really have leverage here???? we’re just gonna yeet you if you don’t

[iaafr]

like why from town perspective should i care about helping you achieve wincon

unless you actually case the scum for us

go find the scum lc

You should care about wasting a lynch on someone that doesn't further your win condition.

LOL you guys, you think you can treat me like a dog now, pull my chain and find the scum for you?

well its more like

i dont particularly feel like you deserve to win if we find the scum and you just tag along

if you openly townside and are part of the process of helping us come together on a scumread, i'm more inclined to not kill you

rn im still pretty lost and could see it being any of amy/nutella/hally/tutuu but at the same time they all have towny moments sooooooooo