Radiohead Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Oddmerta]

lock town (shouldn't be any in):
mac
hally
tutuu
alison
juliets
spf

town lean (maybe 1-2 here):
poison
radishes
samu
ted
colin/tony
dya
odd

upper poe (1-2 here):
tim
dizzy
lc
herm
wilgy

lower poe (always at least 1 here):
nanook
jpic

someone tell me which names i should move

poison and odd to lock town, i think tsp deserves lock town off that interaction with nutella even if I don't agree with his ideas as much in his recent posts (he can be bottom lock town but still lock town ig), i would also argue for herm to townread but can understand if you're reluctant.

i agree poison and odd should go up

im reluctant to move others up though. i wanna keep the lock town tier as solid as possible

Make another tier between lock town and town lean, call it near lock, put me, poison and radishes in it

[Hally]

what if the scumteam is sprit/dizzy/wilgy/LC/nutella and nutella gave up trying to defend herself D1 because she didnt' feel like she could carry 4 afk players with that much heat on her

i actually was thinking about this - the fact that nutella and sprit both put up basically zero fight makes me think the scum team is demotivated. it can be dangerous to play off of assumptions like that but low energy scum is usually indicative of a a scum that's convinced theyre going to lose

well one of the scum is nook or jpic. probably jpic. so that kinda adds to the theory. i wouldn’t be that motivated if jpic was on my team....

[Alison]

I'm also coasting off of town reads. I should slank and not read the game next time I rand scum tbh, if that will ever happen again. =p

Also, I'm not really coasting. I'm just exhausted.

I want to vote Sprit, cause I don't want to be on the Nut wagon. For no reason.

We can yeet Sprit, no problem. Ok. Go.

stretches a little bit of credibility for me to believe that a player that is admittedly not reading the game somehow went 2/2 with their reads

fwiw dizzy has shown that they will just sheep obvtown if they are slanking as town, and that would produce 2/2 pelts if they did that this game

true, it could just be a consequence of them sheeping the towncore, but the shade thrown on sprit when the majority of the towncore was on nutella feels almost TMI-y

nah, I remember reading that dizzy post. sprit was one of the people that the towncore was going after, along with nut. you can see for yourself that dizzy was choosing between sprit or nut as the wagon to back and they chose sprit. that was because the two contenders to die at that point in time was sprit and nut. saying "ok, let's blast sprit" at that point in time is not out of character if dizzy is pursuing the strategy of sheeping the towncore

hally what is your take on dizzy?

[Timsup2nothin]

also fwiw, i dont townread tim even though the consensus on him seems to be changing a lot. my theory was that timscum saw that the town was forming an incredibly strong POE, and his primary intent today was to break up & instigate paranoia into the POE at all costs. i do feel like tim's game today has been moreso focused on optics than gamesolving, and that concerns me. i do not have a hard time seeing tim being scum

tim trending down again with the revelation that there's a decent chance scumteam selected oddmerta as their designated misexe anyway, since he did a lot to push oddmerta

good point. if the "sprit was angling for oddmerta to be a mischop" theory is true, then that does reflect pretty badly on tim for (iirc) being one of the primary people casting paranoia onto oddmerta

LOL...I wasn't "casting paranoia" I was actively and violently calling for his head.

i hope you realize that this does not make you look better

I can read a room.

I'm also generally unconcerned with how I look at this point in a night phase. Men rise and fall like the winter wheat.

I am guessing that at some point the combination of Sprit trying to pocket and buddy up to Tim, especially AFTER he was on Mac's hot seat, is gonna sink in.

when did sprit buddy up to you?

When he joined my crusade against Oddmerta. The basically outed wolf wasn't thinking "oh boy, let's mischop Oddmerta." Especially the outed wolf with a record for tilting at serious windmills. He knew he wasn't gonna chop you, or Tutuu, or through your shield on Oddmerta. He just wanted to get next to someone that might take the heat off his partners...someone the superfriends could be counted on to look at as "oh, yeah, they are both on a doomed crusade against the town core together...lol wolves...ez game."

As always I have no problem with being thrown back in the POE, so long as you guys don't go hog wild and start wanting to chop me immediately.

[Hally]

lock town (shouldn't be any in):
mac
hally
tutuu
alison
juliets
spf

town lean (maybe 1-2 here):
poison
radishes
samu
ted
colin/tony
dya
odd

upper poe (1-2 here):
tim
dizzy
lc
herm
wilgy

lower poe (always at least 1 here):
nanook
jpic

someone tell me which names i should move

poison and odd to lock town, i think tsp deserves lock town off that interaction with nutella even if I don't agree with his ideas as much in his recent posts (he can be bottom lock town but still lock town ig), i would also argue for herm to townread but can understand if you're reluctant.

i agree poison and odd should go up

im reluctant to move others up though. i wanna keep the lock town tier as solid as possible

Make another tier between lock town and town lean, call it near lock, put me, poison and radishes in it

sounds good

[Oddmerta]

what if the scumteam is sprit/dizzy/wilgy/LC/nutella and nutella gave up trying to defend herself D1 because she didnt' feel like she could carry 4 afk players with that much heat on her

Swap one of those with jpic

[Alison]

Make another tier between lock town and town lean, call it near lock, put me, poison and radishes in it

look at this shit rofl

how do people not townread this stuff? and oddmerta has been producing posts like this all game. this is why i townshielded him even before sprit spewed him town

[Hally]

I'm also coasting off of town reads. I should slank and not read the game next time I rand scum tbh, if that will ever happen again. =p

Also, I'm not really coasting. I'm just exhausted.

I want to vote Sprit, cause I don't want to be on the Nut wagon. For no reason.

We can yeet Sprit, no problem. Ok. Go.

stretches a little bit of credibility for me to believe that a player that is admittedly not reading the game somehow went 2/2 with their reads

fwiw dizzy has shown that they will just sheep obvtown if they are slanking as town, and that would produce 2/2 pelts if they did that this game

true, it could just be a consequence of them sheeping the towncore, but the shade thrown on sprit when the majority of the towncore was on nutella feels almost TMI-y

nah, I remember reading that dizzy post. sprit was one of the people that the towncore was going after, along with nut. you can see for yourself that dizzy was choosing between sprit or nut as the wagon to back and they chose sprit. that was because the two contenders to die at that point in time was sprit and nut. saying "ok, let's blast sprit" at that point in time is not out of character if dizzy is pursuing the strategy of sheeping the towncore

hally what is your take on dizzy?

dunno

gth town just off vibe but there isn’t much to analyze

[Alison]

what if the scumteam is sprit/dizzy/wilgy/LC/nutella and nutella gave up trying to defend herself D1 because she didnt' feel like she could carry 4 afk players with that much heat on her

Swap one of those with jpic

yeah i forgot jpic. current theory based on tim's role is that the team is 6 people wide so there's an extra spot for jpic to slide in

[tutuu]

what if the scumteam is sprit/dizzy/wilgy/LC/nutella and nutella gave up trying to defend herself D1 because she didnt' feel like she could carry 4 afk players with that much heat on her

i actually was thinking about this - the fact that nutella and sprit both put up basically zero fight makes me think the scum team is demotivated. it can be dangerous to play off of assumptions like that but low energy scum is usually indicative of a a scum that's convinced theyre going to lose

yee probably

lets kill all the afkers

[Timsup2nothin]

what if the scumteam is sprit/dizzy/wilgy/LC/nutella and nutella gave up trying to defend herself D1 because she didnt' feel like she could carry 4 afk players with that much heat on her

Then I will once again wonder whether the result comes from "awesome town core play" or just weak wolfing.

[staypositivefriend]

I'm also coasting off of town reads. I should slank and not read the game next time I rand scum tbh, if that will ever happen again. =p

Also, I'm not really coasting. I'm just exhausted.

I want to vote Sprit, cause I don't want to be on the Nut wagon. For no reason.

We can yeet Sprit, no problem. Ok. Go.

stretches a little bit of credibility for me to believe that a player that is admittedly not reading the game somehow went 2/2 with their reads

fwiw dizzy has shown that they will just sheep obvtown if they are slanking as town, and that would produce 2/2 pelts if they did that this game

true, it could just be a consequence of them sheeping the towncore, but the shade thrown on sprit when the majority of the towncore was on nutella feels almost TMI-y

nah, I remember reading that dizzy post. sprit was one of the people that the towncore was going after, along with nut. you can see for yourself that dizzy was choosing between sprit or nut as the wagon to back and they chose sprit. that was because the two contenders to die at that point in time was sprit and nut. saying "ok, let's blast sprit" at that point in time is not out of character if dizzy is pursuing the strategy of sheeping the towncore

hally what is your take on dizzy?

hmm, valid points. i may be underestimating the pressure sprit was under on d1 as well

[staypositivefriend]

what if the scumteam is sprit/dizzy/wilgy/LC/nutella and nutella gave up trying to defend herself D1 because she didnt' feel like she could carry 4 afk players with that much heat on her

Then I will once again wonder whether the result comes from "awesome town core play" or just weak wolfing.

why not both

[staypositivefriend]

im about to go watch lovecraft country but ill be back tomorrow (and possibly tonight) to do more analysis xx

[Alison]

When he joined my crusade against Oddmerta. The basically outed wolf wasn't thinking "oh boy, let's mischop Oddmerta." Especially the outed wolf with a record for tilting at serious windmills. He knew he wasn't gonna chop you, or Tutuu, or through your shield on Oddmerta. He just wanted to get next to someone that might take the heat off his partners...someone the superfriends could be counted on to look at as "oh, yeah, they are both on a doomed crusade against the town core together...lol wolves...ez game."

As always I have no problem with being thrown back in the POE, so long as you guys don't go hog wild and start wanting to chop me immediately.

Talk to me about why you believe that sprit believed that he wasn't going to chop Oddmerta. I distinctly remember a heavy overcast of suspicion thrown on Oddmerta that day, which was why I had to furiously defend Oddmerta in the first place. In fact, given your own case on Oddmerta, even you believed that Oddmerta was a viable exe. And we know that sprityo has enough cojones to try for some really ballsy misexes, because he tried to get tutuu and myself killed D1. So why would sprityo give up trying to misexe oddmerta?

Don't worry about being exed right now. JPIC is next on the block and I think Wilgy at least looks clearly worse than you no matter what way you slice it. You have 2 more day phases and 2 more night phases (if those remain open) to prove yourself. If you are town, I have faith that you will be able to let us find you.

[Hally]

what if the scumteam is sprit/dizzy/wilgy/LC/nutella and nutella gave up trying to defend herself D1 because she didnt' feel like she could carry 4 afk players with that much heat on her

Swap one of those with jpic

yeah i forgot jpic. current theory based on tim's role is that the team is 6 people wide so there's an extra spot for jpic to slide in

i thought tim says 4 non town left

one is rougue. so three are maf. two maf are dead. so mafia had 5 to start

[Hally]

lock town (shouldn’t be any in):
mac
hally
tutuu
alison
juliets
spf

near lock (doubtful there’s any in):
odd
poison
radishes

town lean (maybe 1-2 here):
samu
ted
colin/tony
dya

upper poe (1-2 here):
tim
dizzy
lc
herm
wilgy

lower poe (always at least 1 here):
nanook
jpic

this feels pretty good

[Timsup2nothin]

what if the scumteam is sprit/dizzy/wilgy/LC/nutella and nutella gave up trying to defend herself D1 because she didnt' feel like she could carry 4 afk players with that much heat on her

Swap one of those with jpic

yeah i forgot jpic. current theory based on tim's role is that the team is 6 people wide so there's an extra spot for jpic to slide in

No it's five and a rogue.

[Alison]

what if the scumteam is sprit/dizzy/wilgy/LC/nutella and nutella gave up trying to defend herself D1 because she didnt' feel like she could carry 4 afk players with that much heat on her

Then I will once again wonder whether the result comes from "awesome town core play" or just weak wolfing.

I really don't care as long as I win. If I wanted to inflate my ego, I'd go play Town of Salem and sweep a few games.

[Alison]

oh hally you have dizzy in upper poe?

[Hally]

awesome town play makes wolfing hard

[Oddmerta]

what if the scumteam is sprit/dizzy/wilgy/LC/nutella and nutella gave up trying to defend herself D1 because she didnt' feel like she could carry 4 afk players with that much heat on her

Then I will once again wonder whether the result comes from "awesome town core play" or just weak wolfing.

I really don't care as long as I win. If I wanted to inflate my ego, I'd go play Town of Salem and sweep a few games.

What do you think about all the balance changes recently? Ret nerf, NK buffs etc

[Hally]

oh hally you have dizzy in upper poe?

yea but i probably wouldn’t kill him before others there unless mac really wants to

he’s just there because imo there’s not much going for him other than vibing town and when so many ppl have concrete reasons to be out of the poe and/or are doing enough to be tr it’s kinda hard to justify putting him higher

[Alison]

what if the scumteam is sprit/dizzy/wilgy/LC/nutella and nutella gave up trying to defend herself D1 because she didnt' feel like she could carry 4 afk players with that much heat on her

Then I will once again wonder whether the result comes from "awesome town core play" or just weak wolfing.

I really don't care as long as I win. If I wanted to inflate my ego, I'd go play Town of Salem and sweep a few games.

What do you think about all the balance changes recently? Ret nerf, NK buffs etc

I try my best not to think about Town of Salem

[Oddmerta]

Let's say Vig is real, gets proactive and shoots jpic, who is prime for voting up tomorrow?

[Alison]

Let's say Vig is real, gets proactive and shoots jpic, who is prime for voting up tomorrow?

Depending on JPIC's role, either nook or Wilgy.

[Hally]

Let's say Vig is real, gets proactive and shoots jpic, who is prime for voting up tomorrow?

depends what jpic flips

if he’s not post capper we kill nanook

if he is i think we should let wagons develop naturally as opposed to dictating who to kill

[Oddmerta]

I don't know tutuu very well, what discord avatar should I pick for them when jpic flips wolf?

[Timsup2nothin]

When he joined my crusade against Oddmerta. The basically outed wolf wasn't thinking "oh boy, let's mischop Oddmerta." Especially the outed wolf with a record for tilting at serious windmills. He knew he wasn't gonna chop you, or Tutuu, or through your shield on Oddmerta. He just wanted to get next to someone that might take the heat off his partners...someone the superfriends could be counted on to look at as "oh, yeah, they are both on a doomed crusade against the town core together...lol wolves...ez game."

As always I have no problem with being thrown back in the POE, so long as you guys don't go hog wild and start wanting to chop me immediately.

Talk to me about why you believe that sprit believed that he wasn't going to chop Oddmerta. I distinctly remember a heavy overcast of suspicion thrown on Oddmerta that day, which was why I had to furiously defend Oddmerta in the first place. In fact, given your own case on Oddmerta, even you believed that Oddmerta was a viable exe. And we know that sprityo has enough cojones to try for some really ballsy misexes, because he tried to get tutuu and myself killed D1. So why would sprityo give up trying to misexe oddmerta?

Don't worry about being exed right now. JPIC is next on the block and I think Wilgy at least looks clearly worse than you no matter what way you slice it. You have 2 more day phases and 2 more night phases (if those remain open) to prove yourself. If you are town, I have faith that you will be able to let us find you.

LOL...the idea that me blasting at Oddmerta meant that I thought there was a snowball's chance in hell of getting him chopped is...bold, to say the least.

As I said, I can read a room.

If you think Sprit was a "ballsy wolf trying to get Alison mischopped" you really need me in this game, because you can't read a room for shit. I can't say for sure why Sprit was tilting at your little windmill, but if he thought there was ANY way he was gonna get you chopped I'll have what he was smoking, thanks.

And he wasn't gonna get Oddmerta chopped either. These were two runaway days. There were no wolves playing "let's make a counterwagon." They were playing let's create some shade, let's free distance by voting each other while there's no chance of going over (or vote me while you are going over), let's buddy up to some townies.

I like it. I love a good buddy coming along, even if they're a wolf. Towncores always hate me, and everyone needs a friend.

[Hally]

dictating kills the whole game removes accountability from ppl to actually push their sr’s because all they have to do is what they’re told. without accountability it’ll be harder to read ppl especially as the game gets harder

[Hally]

I don't know tutuu very well, what discord avatar should I pick for them when jpic flips wolf?

anything but a spinning anime girl

[Alison]

LOL...the idea that me blasting at Oddmerta meant that I thought there was a snowball's chance in hell of getting him chopped is...bold, to say the least.

As I said, I can read a room.

If you think Sprit was a "ballsy wolf trying to get Alison mischopped" you really need me in this game, because you can't read a room for shit. I can't say for sure why Sprit was tilting at your little windmill, but if he thought there was ANY way he was gonna get you chopped I'll have what he was smoking, thanks.

And he wasn't gonna get Oddmerta chopped either. These were two runaway days. There were no wolves playing "let's make a counterwagon." They were playing let's create some shade, let's free distance by voting each other while there's no chance of going over (or vote me while you are going over), let's buddy up to some townies.

I like it. I love a good buddy coming along, even if they're a wolf. Towncores always hate me, and everyone needs a friend.

If someone makes an extensive scum case with ISO combing and line-by-line analysis on me, I'll assume they want me dead. That is the simplest and most likely explanation. They clearly aren't trying to pocket me, and since nobody else was scumreading me, they probably aren't trying to pocket anyone else. I theorized that the reflexive wolf response to a strong towncore suddenly forming would be to try to break it up (which is why I initially townread nutella for going along with it), and so it is quite easy to see sprityo taking a stab at cracking us apart. I have seen crazier things happen. I have personally been exed in more unlikely spots. (There was a mafia game I played offsite where I was executed in endgame as confirmed town who had the solve and was screaming it for the past fifty posts.)

So, if you want me to believe that sprityo didn't want me, tutuu and Oddmerta dead, you will have to give me a good reason.

[Alison]

I don't know tutuu very well, what discord avatar should I pick for them when jpic flips wolf?

[MacDougall]

I'm also coasting off of town reads. I should slank and not read the game next time I rand scum tbh, if that will ever happen again. =p

Also, I'm not really coasting. I'm just exhausted.

I want to vote Sprit, cause I don't want to be on the Nut wagon. For no reason.

We can yeet Sprit, no problem. Ok. Go.

stretches a little bit of credibility for me to believe that a player that is admittedly not reading the game somehow went 2/2 with their reads

I am quite partial to these types of reads too

[Alison]

I'm also coasting off of town reads. I should slank and not read the game next time I rand scum tbh, if that will ever happen again. =p

Also, I'm not really coasting. I'm just exhausted.

I want to vote Sprit, cause I don't want to be on the Nut wagon. For no reason.

We can yeet Sprit, no problem. Ok. Go.

stretches a little bit of credibility for me to believe that a player that is admittedly not reading the game somehow went 2/2 with their reads

I am quite partial to these types of reads too

wdym?

[Oddmerta]

I am weighing the pros and cons of killing tim, that bridge is coming up soon and I'll be the first to cross it

[Timsup2nothin]

LOL...the idea that me blasting at Oddmerta meant that I thought there was a snowball's chance in hell of getting him chopped is...bold, to say the least.

As I said, I can read a room.

If you think Sprit was a "ballsy wolf trying to get Alison mischopped" you really need me in this game, because you can't read a room for shit. I can't say for sure why Sprit was tilting at your little windmill, but if he thought there was ANY way he was gonna get you chopped I'll have what he was smoking, thanks.

And he wasn't gonna get Oddmerta chopped either. These were two runaway days. There were no wolves playing "let's make a counterwagon." They were playing let's create some shade, let's free distance by voting each other while there's no chance of going over (or vote me while you are going over), let's buddy up to some townies.

I like it. I love a good buddy coming along, even if they're a wolf. Towncores always hate me, and everyone needs a friend.

If someone makes an extensive scum case with ISO combing and line-by-line analysis on me, I'll assume they want me dead. That is the simplest and most likely explanation. They clearly aren't trying to pocket me, and since nobody else was scumreading me, they probably aren't trying to pocket anyone else. I theorized that the reflexive wolf response to a strong towncore suddenly forming would be to try to break it up (which is why I initially townread nutella for going along with it), and so it is quite easy to see sprityo taking a stab at cracking us apart. I have seen crazier things happen. I have personally been exed in more unlikely spots. (There was a mafia game I played offsite where I was executed in endgame as confirmed town who had the solve and was screaming it for the past fifty posts.)

So, if you want me to believe that sprityo didn't want me, tutuu and Oddmerta dead, you will have to give me a good reason.

Want you dead? Sure he wanted you dead. That has no bearing on the fact that he wasn't gonna make you dead in any world we can imagine.

"I am a minimal credibility fringe player, and y'all are just racing to see who can hit the stake through Nutella's heart the hardest...but how bout we chop the number one town read instead?"

Put that on the ranked list of "things wolves never really say."

If it was ME, I'd say my main purpose there is to maintain consistency with my "always antagonize the towncore to keep them honest" style, as well as to keep me a safe and explainable distance away from the butchering of my packmate that I cannot stop.

[Timsup2nothin]

I am weighing the pros and cons of killing tim, that bridge is coming up soon and I'll be the first to cross it

Fire away if you got the vig shot. You'll be wrong and have to decide whether to admit it, but at least I won't have to have you gnawing at my heels endlessly and it gets me out of the POE so the noose tightens on the actual wolves. Just remember that if you shoot me you are REALLY on the hook to get me the win.

[MacDougall]

The fact that Sprityo just walked away doesn't bode well for the mafia having much in the way of a coordinated plan. Surely if there were active mafia that were a chance of winning they would encourage him to anti spew their way or something.

[Alison]

If it was ME, I'd say my main purpose there is to maintain consistency with my "always antagonize the towncore to keep them honest" style, as well as to keep me a safe and explainable distance away from the butchering of my packmate that I cannot stop.

Maybe this is true, but if this is the explanation as to why sprityo tried to attack Oddmerta, then it doesn't make you look any better, because a wolf Tim would be motivated by much the same reasons

[MacDougall]

Like of course it's just "you're dead, we're bussing" but I don't imagine Sprityo just walks away completely. It's just odd.

[Alison]

The fact that Sprityo just walked away doesn't bode well for the mafia having much in the way of a coordinated plan. Surely if there were active mafia that were a chance of winning they would encourage him to anti spew their way or something.

I think if sprityo just gave up on the game entirely he wouldn't check/be swayed by teammates begging in the scum thread for him to do something. See Space Invaders, where Rej and Soneji didn't really participate in scum chat much and just sort of folded over and died. (For a more amusing example, see my MU game where my teammate gave up because they thought they were going to be exed, then the cop revealed a red check on me and I got exed instead, and my previously given up teammate suddenly came back to life, went deep, and won.)

[Timsup2nothin]

If it was ME, I'd say my main purpose there is to maintain consistency with my "always antagonize the towncore to keep them honest" style, as well as to keep me a safe and explainable distance away from the butchering of my packmate that I cannot stop.

Maybe this is true, but if this is the explanation as to why sprityo tried to attack Oddmerta, then it doesn't make you look any better, because a wolf Tim would be motivated by much the same reasons

A wolf Tim would have snapped Sprit's neck in wolfchat for getting next to him like that actually, but maybe that's why Sprit ran away from the thread.

[Timsup2nothin]

The fact that Sprityo just walked away doesn't bode well for the mafia having much in the way of a coordinated plan. Surely if there were active mafia that were a chance of winning they would encourage him to anti spew their way or something.

Sprit may not be a real 'team player' wolf type?

I have no way of knowing that one way or the other, but it is a plausible counter.

[Alison]

If it was ME, I'd say my main purpose there is to maintain consistency with my "always antagonize the towncore to keep them honest" style, as well as to keep me a safe and explainable distance away from the butchering of my packmate that I cannot stop.

Maybe this is true, but if this is the explanation as to why sprityo tried to attack Oddmerta, then it doesn't make you look any better, because a wolf Tim would be motivated by much the same reasons

A wolf Tim would have snapped Sprit's neck in wolfchat for getting next to him like that actually, but maybe that's why Sprit ran away from the thread.

I have wanted many times to snap my partner's neck in wolfchat, but unfortunately I can't because usually doing so just makes matters worse.

[MacDougall]

The fact that Sprityo just walked away doesn't bode well for the mafia having much in the way of a coordinated plan. Surely if there were active mafia that were a chance of winning they would encourage him to anti spew their way or something.

Sprit may not be a real 'team player' wolf type?

I have no way of knowing that one way or the other, but it is a plausible counter.

I suppose it's just wifom cuz he might have got irl busy.

[tutuu]

I don't know tutuu very well, what discord avatar should I pick for them when jpic flips wolf?

Loooooool

[MacDougall]

I am a little concerned that Ted saying I had no mech was TMI given Sprityo's flip

[Timsup2nothin]

The fact that Sprityo just walked away doesn't bode well for the mafia having much in the way of a coordinated plan. Surely if there were active mafia that were a chance of winning they would encourage him to anti spew their way or something.

Sprit may not be a real 'team player' wolf type?

I have no way of knowing that one way or the other, but it is a plausible counter.

I suppose it's just wifom cuz he might have got irl busy.

No guess, really.

[Timsup2nothin]

I am a little concerned that Ted saying I had no mech was TMI given Sprityo's flip

Wouldn't the wolves be wanting to emphasize your mech, knowing they had misdirected it though?