tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:01 am
That exchange / thought was still pretty horrible
your read that my avi change was scum motivated and i was >rand scum for it was 10 times better, i hope i can learn how to utilize such great reads myself in the future!!!
I was being sarcastic
how was i supposed to pick up on it ???? lol that was insanely hard to pick up on that u werent serious there imo
It’s in the post where it said “I said it in case you were actually wolf because it would be funny and karma and blah blah”
I’ll have only serious reads from now on tho so people don’t have to discern my sarcasm and whatnot
Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:44 am
112 and Michelle have not done enough for me to have a read on them.
I have a theory that Ash could be mafia. There's something about his play I just don't like, and it keeps on nagging at me. He seems a little too... agreeable, if that makes sense. His NANOOK scumread surprised me, because Ash had never pushed NANOOK prior to making that read, and he has not pushed NANOOK since then, as far as I can tell. It is not mafia indicative, but it is something I am keeping in mind.
I'm currently conflicted on tutuu. On the one hand, I think my reasons for suspecting her are solid. On the other hand, she is still continuing a very bizarre play pattern I scumread her for (and I was not the only one!), she has not changed her play whatsoever to appeal to me, nor has she done anything beyond what I've already said that came across as scummy to me. I'm starting to wonder if I'm scumreading her personality instead of her actual play.
Hally's re-entrance into the thread did not ping me either way. The fact I'm called obvious town by Hally seems... weirdly dismissive, just like the way I felt when tutuu responded to me in that one post.
i wouldn’t say i was being dismissive. idk you just seem like such an obvious villager to me that i see no reason to give any more thought to it at this point in time
The way I interpreted your post was "alright, I accept you as town, I am not going to bother solving you for the rest of the game." And it felt... cheap.
not for the rest of the game. just until the point where either 1) the gamestate becomes such that i have to re-evaluate my tr’s or 2) you do something in the future that causes me to have concerns about you
if that doesnt happen or i die before it does, then ig yea i won’t really give further thought to your alignment. but i see no reason to spin my wheels about you now when you’ve given me no reason to do that and look like an extremely obvious villager to me
Ash Lael wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:37 am
Talk to me about tutuu and Nanook, Hally. Why are they town?
it’s hard to point to specific things because it’s more a general impression but i get the sense they’re genuinely solving in a way that’s consistent with their town selves as i know them
ig to be more specific, for tutuu what i can say beyond just “vibes” is that i think her tr on me for using a spoiler in one of my posts is the kind of wacky read that scum just don’t think to fake usually but a villager will actually have thoughts like that. i thought the same about how she responded to vul’s push by saying he was doubting it to pocket her or something. it was again kinda out there and i don’t think it’s actually what vul was doing but i think it’s a towny reaction for tutuu to have because again, scum don’t often think to fake those kinds of micro reads especially under pressure
for nook, it really is more just a general vibe that he actually cares. like i kinda doubt scum!nook would write those posts about just having fun and not giving reads unless he wants to and then proceed to be highly involved and give lots of reads early on. it’s kinda like tutuus “says he’s going to bed but stays to post” read. it’s like he just can’t help himself but be here. and nothing he’s done while here has struck me as fake given what i know of him
How well do you know them, and how confident are you? Because this is my first game with either.
i’ve played several games with each. and i wouldn’t say im extremely confident. there’s always doubt in my mind about every read i have. but at the moment i feel confident enough to list them as firm tr’s
Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:03 am
I also think NANOOK is more likely to be town, unless he is exactly w/w with tutuu. The way he cleared her felt natural. The clear was also very unlikely to come from mafia, because tutuu was not considered "clear"; there were still several players suspecting her.
i had a similar thought about nook/mich. as soon as i said i sr michelle nook was like “im locking michelle as town,” which i feel only happens if either nook is town or exactly w/w with michelle
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:45 am
i think 112 went with she/her pronouns but dunno, no idea
I am gonna sheep hally cuz (no offense to the others!) i think shes the best player on this table from my own personal experience (idc about MU) and im in a subservient mood
112’s profile said he/his but if that’s out of date feel free to correct me 112
and lol pls no, i don’t wanna have that kind of responsibility. like im aware i may be perceived as one of the stronger players in the game but that doesn’t mean everyone should just follow me. i don’t think that’s healthy. everyone should feel free to be their own leader of sorts. its a team effort
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:45 am
i think 112 went with she/her pronouns but dunno, no idea
I am gonna sheep hally cuz (no offense to the others!) i think shes the best player on this table from my own personal experience (idc about MU) and im in a subservient mood
none taken
but be sure she’s a villa before doing it
what is my alignment ted?
Idk I’m not bothering atm
why not? i would think i’d be one of the first players you’d try to get a read on especially given i’ve established a stronger presence than is sometimes typical for me
tutuu
vulgard
nanook
poison chan
hally tedxtr
michelle
112
dunya
long con
TSP
drWilgy
triplehaven
ash lael
arete
i kept the big ass size on ted's name from eariler. not getting rid of it. actually ill turn this into a running gag, like i have running gags with multiple people. its endearing. mmmhmm now i feel good thinking about it hehe
Fairly high level of confidence in each at this point.
Mafia:
Arete
Ash Lael
Both pending until further resolution. I expect to have a confident read on Arete before EoD if they post more.
I still don't really like Hally and don't want to TR them, even though I ended up agreeing with them about tutuu.
fwiw i think you’re doing the same thing to me as you did with tutuu where you’re sr’ing me more out of policy and then confbiasing yourself because my natural style maybe isn’t one you vibe with. im just letting it be because i trust you will get there on me soon enough if i just keep doing my thing (or i’ll be nk’d quickly and you won’t have to bother). but if theres any direct concerns or questions you want to bring to me that might speed up the process, please feel free
Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:21 am
I feel like there is something to be said about me and tutuu suddenly having the exact same mafia reads, but I'll refrain from saying a thing.
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:45 am
i think 112 went with she/her pronouns but dunno, no idea
I am gonna sheep hally cuz (no offense to the others!) i think shes the best player on this table from my own personal experience (idc about MU) and im in a subservient mood
112’s profile said he/his but if that’s out of date feel free to correct me 112
and lol pls no, i don’t wanna have that kind of responsibility. like im aware i may be perceived as one of the stronger players in the game but that doesn’t mean everyone should just follow me. i don’t think that’s healthy. everyone should feel free to be their own leader of sorts. its a team effort
Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:21 am
I feel like there is something to be said about me and tutuu suddenly having the exact same mafia reads, but I'll refrain from saying a thing.
u copied me freckles!
well to be fair i didnt come up with the ash scumread, it was a combination of sheeping you and hally and ted
but still u copied me freckles!!!
and i guess same for arete. but im no plagiat. nu-uh
Arete's initial posts actually reminded me of a turbo game I saw them play, where they were mafia. The posts exhibited a similar lack of energy and town demeanor.
And by the way, Hally, I'm not sure if we have a playstyle clash or something. I... don't actually know how I'd define my playstyle. It's been changing rapidly as of late, left and right. I'm really just trying to find my place as a mafia player, and trying to get better at this game. I've been a mafia-siding town far too often recently.
i actually liked vul’s take that ash feels too “clean” atm, but tbh i associate higher energy/aggression with ash as either alignment. like “clean” isn’t really a word i’d use to describe either his town or scum play, but may be more likely to fit his scum game just because he cares more about crafting an image. but it could also be what he said about playing less aggressively than usual. and i think his content is pretty good. it’s just hard for me to get there and be like “yes, ash is a villager.” i thought maybe it was because he burned me as scum but even tutuu and vul who don’t know him are scum reading him so maybe there’s some to that
Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:21 am
I feel like there is something to be said about me and tutuu suddenly having the exact same mafia reads, but I'll refrain from saying a thing.
Yeah she’s being blatantly opportunistic in changing her read to take advantage of the thread’s shift against me.
i remember thinking one of arete’s posts about voting tutuu for scum claiming was vaguely towny but in trying to force myself to explain why that is i can’t really come up with any reason so it was probably a bad take
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:45 am
im surprised that still five people haven’t checked in
its alright, its day 0! some ppl r busy and stuff, they will come!
Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:44 am
I'm still reeling from the fact four people have claimed mafia and I am currently townreading two of them.
This shouldn't be happening.
Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:44 am
I'm still reeling from the fact four people have claimed mafia and I am currently townreading two of them.
This shouldn't be happening.
i really don’t think claiming scum is scum indicative. it’s basically NAI i think, though maybe in some contexts it can be AI. but the fact that you want to policy sr them and yet you still feel they’re town should tell you that you should trust your tr’s on them and not stress it so much
Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:44 am
I'm still reeling from the fact four people have claimed mafia and I am currently townreading two of them.
This shouldn't be happening.
Me 2 from the fact that you keep putting fake info in thread
I never claimed mafia and you still act like I did
i was looking for some explosive / energetic song from the zero escape ost and say "when someone openwolfs in front of vulgard" and link it but unfotunately there dont seem to be any energetic songs there rippers
tutuu maybe a villager but I’ll keep her in the “hmm” pile because if there wouldn’t be anybody to pick on for having her “as a wolf for shit reasons” then she’d be considerably less happy
feel like maybe we should stop posting and wait for the third of the game that’s not here yet to get here. im not sure it’s productive to have like the same four people talking to each other for pages. i feel pretty good about where we’re at rn
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:58 am
tutuu maybe a villager but I’ll keep her in the “hmm” pile because if there wouldn’t be anybody to pick on for having her “as a wolf for shit reasons” then she’d be considerably less happy
Who’s in the mood for some vote count analysis before we have any actual votes?
Currently I have Ted, Vulgard, tutuu and kinda-sorta-Hally all on me in spirit. Wolves will usually not bunch up a lot, in a wagon of four voters you’ll rarely have more than one. Equally, a wagon of four voters will rarely have no wolves. When you’ve got a bit of movement happening towards a townie usually one will want to move with the thread and find a way to climb on board.
Obviously I think tutuu is the opportunistic wolf in this group. Assuming I’m right about that, it implies that the other three are town. I was already getting to feel pretty comfy about Vulgard, but the other two have been indecipherable and inner-conflict-inducing, respectively. Being able to anti-associate them with my top scumread feels good.
