Escape From Russia [GAME OVER]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Most of your reads this game have been relatively consistent tho

[Hally]

Most of your reads this game have been relatively consistent tho

that’s not really true. i think ive waffled on the majority of people itg

[tutuu]

God damn 3ps i hate em

[tutuu]

Maybe teds a 3p

Wasnt 3p hunting a scumtell

Well butter my biscuits and call me Mary cuz i dont give a daymn, son, YEEEHAW (gallops away on her horse)

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I think most of your reads have consistently ended up in the same place but it doesn’t matter

[Arete]

So it's not LC, not Nanook, not Vulgard. Not going to chop Dunya or Arete. Everyone else fair game?

why are you clearing LC?

[Poison]

Morning

[Poison]

lmao, it's 11am, I'm still sleepy, where should I start from again?

[Poison]

Just two things, @TonyStarkPrime i have almost 200 posts do you have nothing for me except for some hmms?

Secondly, I'm good doc. How are you?

yeah I've got nothing. should I have something?

isn't it obvious? i mean you just said "hmm" like a few times? even if you don't have a conclusion but i still think you should have had more to say about me?

[Long Con]

So it's not LC, not Nanook, not Vulgard. Not going to chop Dunya or Arete. Everyone else fair game?

why are you clearing LC?

Yeah, exactly. I am considering hopping on the Tony train. Me being in his top tier is loco. I certainly haven't earned it.

[Poison]

Just two things, @TonyStarkPrime i have almost 200 posts do you have nothing for me except for some hmms?

Secondly, I'm good doc. How are you?

I'm a sleepy boi

ayyyy, me too.... I love sleeping!!!

[Poison]

the lavender looks so soft and feminine omg

i am imagining nanook with a flower in his hair, over his ear, rn

He is still a blonde mermaid right?

in my imagination he looks so beautiful @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

You can imagine me however you want kek

blonde mermaid with flower in your hair, yey !

[Poison]

on page 8, going to take a break and catch up later

could vulgard be any more obviously scum?

112 is probably town for how they expressed this take + their general willingness to go against one of the most widely TR'd players as if it were self-evident

this read is definitely not a product of my own doubts about Vul

what are your doubts about vul?

when Vul is a villager, he's usually a shining beacon of towniness such that I can basically just open his posts and start scrolling them like 'this post was written by a villager, this post was written by a villager, this post was written by a villager...' and I can't really do that here

also his posts are excessively formal in a way that's not consistent with how he normally writes, which makes me think they might be fabricated and he's trying to make them sound more ?legitimate? or something. not weighting this one nearly as much as the 'his posts were not written by a villager' thing because I know English isn't his first language, and also he's an English major, which could maybe explain it

So, @Arete, I had asked Vulgard if he is a leader as town or not, he said he would not want to be one this game. What do you think he has done in regards of that so far and does he take the leading position as both town and scum?

I'd say that he tends to end up leader-ish on our homesite regardless of his alignment

although a lot of that is that he's better than most people on our homesite and I think that's less applicable here

oh i see, thanks. that helps.

[Poison]

okay notifications clear! idk which page to go back to will start from when i last posted maybe idk

[Poison]

tell me more

His tone is incredibly forced/stilted and he keeps repeating his cases in a way that makes me think he's trying to mimic a proper progression on people.

re: tone i think he just writes like that

i don’t understand what you mean by the bolded

By the bolded I mean that he keeps bringing things up that he's already said before, such as that he doesn't like the posters who claimed maf. It seems like he's trying to write every read he has out to such a detailed extent that nobody can question the work he's put in/the quality of his thoughts, but it just comes out looking like he's trying very hard to remember the reasons he's scumread peope--something that town don't have to do because they've already internalized their opinions.

this feels chainsaw-y.

how?

112 is going after Vulgard for his cases, particularly parts where it's claimed that he's repeated ideas that others have stated. But generally I think this is inaccurate. Vulgard seems to be in some ways the least conventional person in the game, he's playing it differently. Stilted, maybe. But not repetitive. Hypothesis then, there's a common case that Vulgard has picked up on that implicates a partner of 112. 112 seeks to discredit this general case by discrediting Vulgard.
Feels weak tbh but it's something. If like Tutuu is scum I think that'd be a strong association

can you explain why tutuu would make a strong association?

[Poison]

Like w!vul never does that to their teammate and is never so blatantly giddy if not w/w

have you played with Vulgard?

[Poison]

Okay, day agenda:

agendum 1: pizza
agendum 2: math lunch
agendum 3: math
agendum 4: kant
agendum 5: kant 2
agendum 6: back to mafia

see y'all after kant 2

what is math lunch?

[Poison]

Okay, day agenda:

agendum 1: pizza
agendum 2: math lunch
agendum 3: math
agendum 4: kant
agendum 5: kant 2
agendum 6: back to mafia

see y'all after kant 2

I have a bag under my sink with more bags inside of it. Is this what Kant meant when he conceptualized the thing-in-itself?

i watched this mini series called "des" a few days ago, and with your pfp and this line, it is giving me shivers!

[Poison]

villa

Vulgard
Poison Chan (disrespect read)
112


villa, thin reason (wolves can slip here)

Michelle
Arete



null

Long Con
Hally
Triple Haven
tutuu
Nanook


(maaaaybe wolf?)

TSP


woofs

ash lael
dunya


=========

I think LC could be town, I wanted to make a read on him and say f it, but it's probably not very good because he'd be changing the way he thinks about the game regardless.

[mention]tedxtr[/mention] WDYM BY DISRESPECT READ???????????????

[Long Con]

villa

Vulgard
Poison Chan (disrespect read)
112


villa, thin reason (wolves can slip here)

Michelle
Arete



null

Long Con
Hally
Triple Haven
tutuu
Nanook


(maaaaybe wolf?)

TSP


woofs

ash lael
dunya


=========

I think LC could be town, I wanted to make a read on him and say f it, but it's probably not very good because he'd be changing the way he thinks about the game regardless.

@tedxtr WDYM BY DISRESPECT READ???????????????

[tedxtr]

Everyone I didn’t name just now lol

Which is trip/112/ted/LC/wilgy...I think that’s a pretty good D1 POE tbh

meh

[Poison]

Why's Michelle a wolf?

I don't think Ash has been posting anything that's out of an average to decent wolf's range, iirc your reasoning was solely mindmeld, which... yeah.

I don't know why you're town leaning TSP at all.

I can maybe see nanook and tutuu as town, but that's not "having a different view of the game", that's just I didn't ISO them and skimmed most of their posts.

is michelle even playing hewr town game? i don't think so?

[Poison]

ted, why do you think michelle could be town?

Admittedly this game play is probably what she'd aim for as a wolf in order to override meta but I don't think she'd pull it off this naturally as an actual wolf. The snark behind her posts when people call her a wolf reads like town that's rubbing their hands together thinking "it's working" and "nobody knows how to read me know haha"

It's not the ideal read I'd have but it's tailored to her. I've owned her soul in countless games so I don't go for TMI reads and such, I just have other ways of doing it. Idc if she switches meta or whatever, I still think I can pinpoint her down by the end. She is listed after all in the "wolves can slip here" section because of it, the reads aren't what I'm comfortable with because I like TMI and non-TMI reads more but I gotta make the most of what I got.

it's more like an assumption or having some fancy imagination than logical reasoning behind mich being town don't you think?

[Poison]

Saw something about expecting an indie and 3 mafia

Do heists have indies? My experience with matrix setups are that they’re exclusively mafia vs town, is it different here?

Last GMan escape game had an indie, he likes indies a lot AFAIK. Couldn’t find it explicitly in the OP, but I’d say pretty good chance of there being one.

wait, do you mean there's an indie even in this game? only 15 people though?

[tedxtr]

ted, why do you think michelle could be town?

Admittedly this game play is probably what she'd aim for as a wolf in order to override meta but I don't think she'd pull it off this naturally as an actual wolf. The snark behind her posts when people call her a wolf reads like town that's rubbing their hands together thinking "it's working" and "nobody knows how to read me know haha"

It's not the ideal read I'd have but it's tailored to her. I've owned her soul in countless games so I don't go for TMI reads and such, I just have other ways of doing it. Idc if she switches meta or whatever, I still think I can pinpoint her down by the end. She is listed after all in the "wolves can slip here" section because of it, the reads aren't what I'm comfortable with because I like TMI and non-TMI reads more but I gotta make the most of what I got.

it's more like an assumption or having some fancy imagination than logical reasoning behind mich being town don't you think?

There is reasoning, you just don’t find it logical

[Poison]

ted, why do you think michelle could be town?

Admittedly this game play is probably what she'd aim for as a wolf in order to override meta but I don't think she'd pull it off this naturally as an actual wolf. The snark behind her posts when people call her a wolf reads like town that's rubbing their hands together thinking "it's working" and "nobody knows how to read me know haha"

It's not the ideal read I'd have but it's tailored to her. I've owned her soul in countless games so I don't go for TMI reads and such, I just have other ways of doing it. Idc if she switches meta or whatever, I still think I can pinpoint her down by the end. She is listed after all in the "wolves can slip here" section because of it, the reads aren't what I'm comfortable with because I like TMI and non-TMI reads more but I gotta make the most of what I got.

it's more like an assumption or having some fancy imagination than logical reasoning behind mich being town don't you think?

There is reasoning, you just don’t find it logical

okay so let me put it like this,

ted did this last scum game, so he would want me to think that he wouldn't do it this scum game, but he would know that I would think like that so he is doing this. and so it goes on.

this is the reasoning?

[tedxtr]

Poison, could this be the game where you finally wanted to replicate your town play and hyper post?

[Poison]

yea sorry everyone, forgot this game was happening and I won't have time to catch up on these posts.

is this a myth? triple posted?

[Poison]

Poison, could this be the game where you finally wanted to replicate your town play and hyper post?

yes, ted, this is the game i wanted to replicate my town play and hyper post.

[tedxtr]

I can’t wait for EoD when everybody is going to wagon Wilgy

I can’t sign up for that but I know it’s happening

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Everyone I didn’t name just now lol

Which is trip/112/ted/LC/wilgy...I think that’s a pretty good D1 POE tbh

meh

No u

[Poison]

Find a hole in my logic I dare you

have you ever presented one before?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Saw something about expecting an indie and 3 mafia

Do heists have indies? My experience with matrix setups are that they’re exclusively mafia vs town, is it different here?

Last GMan escape game had an indie, he likes indies a lot AFAIK. Couldn’t find it explicitly in the OP, but I’d say pretty good chance of there being one.

wait, do you mean there's an indie even in this game? only 15 people though?

I would assume so yeah. Host loves indies

[Poison]

I can’t wait for EoD when everybody is going to wagon Wilgy

I can’t sign up for that but I know it’s happening

why you scum read him?

[Poison]

Saw something about expecting an indie and 3 mafia

Do heists have indies? My experience with matrix setups are that they’re exclusively mafia vs town, is it different here?

Last GMan escape game had an indie, he likes indies a lot AFAIK. Couldn’t find it explicitly in the OP, but I’d say pretty good chance of there being one.

wait, do you mean there's an indie even in this game? only 15 people though?

I would assume so yeah. Host loves indies

I claim indie.! bwahaha

[Poison]

ohh tony is actually leading with votes. I like it tbh, they have been weird.

[tedxtr]

I can’t wait for EoD when everybody is going to wagon Wilgy

I can’t sign up for that but I know it’s happening

why you scum read him?

I’m not but hitting the slankers seems appealing and >rand to hit wolf when we can’t find wolves

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

The only argument for Wilgy over trip is if people feel bad killing trip in their first game here

[Poison]

Tony/Michelle/X. Easy game.

nice. kinda mindmeld, although you aren't my town read but kek.

[Poison]

okay, why is 112 town?

[Poison]

IDk, arete/vulgard feels t/t but i think arete was mostly on vul ? need to ISO them later i think.

[Long Con]

I can’t wait for EoD when everybody is going to wagon Wilgy

I can’t sign up for that but I know it’s happening

I will not likely be a part of that.

[Poison]

i think ash, seems a lot better now? hmm.. almost finished catching up only 4 more pages, would give some proper views after that

[Poison]

tsp/mich/112 gg guys.

[Poison]

or at least one in tsp/mich/112 and if triple is not being the mafia fairy i think we win this pretty soon.

[Poison]

i feel like tony actually makes more sense here than usual. when he’s town and gives reads i feel like he talks in riddles but this game i can actually understand him sorta. is that scummy lmao

lmao. idk last game i just knew he was town from the cop check iirc, so never botheredto give much attention to his playstyle., should have done that.

[Poison]

only two things that money can't buy and that's true love and homegrown tomatas

no you can buy homegrown tomatoes

[Poison]

Vulgard
Poison
Arete
Hally
112
Ted
Dunya
Long con
Wilgy
Triplehaven
Tutuu
Nanook
Michelle
TSP

why is nanook so low?

[Poison]

whered poison go

sleeping. do not call me when i'm sleeping.

[Poison]

But maybe it means I'm reading Hally wrong?

why would it mean that

So there are a few options here:

1) t!Tutuu is playing as Tutuu always does. I'm paranoid for no reason. You are correct. Then me thinking that it's weird that you don't think Tutuu is playing differently is wrong. That'd be how I'd be wrong.
or 2) t!tutuu is projecting towniness by thinking she's playing as she always does while her actual game is different for completely unrelated reasons
3) w!tutuu options I won't split up

what does any of this have to do with my alignment?

also did you expect tutuu to say she was playing differently if shes scum?

it has to do with your alignment because lying is anti town, and because I had thought that Tutuu was obviously different and thus for denying this clear truth you were more likely scum.

if tutuu's scum then she'd know she was playing differently. She wouldn't deny it then, I think. Also, denying it has a good thread position if w!tutuu, since it makes everyone look bad.

oh wait when you said you were wrong about me you meant wrong about me being scum? so you tr me now? but i thought you tr me before? when did you sr me? did i just forget that happened

I neither town read nor scum read you. Overall there has been nothing that moves you to the "Hally town" category but frankly I've just witnessed you play two excellent scum games and on this I might be hesistant to throw you in that category for those reasons. I think you have a good thread position, but there are negatives. Which is actually the same as tutuu, dunya, poison. Probably the same as Vul for people who scum read Vul.

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] what does your read list look like atm?