Escape From Russia [GAME OVER]

[tedxtr]

Idk what you’re saying no about

She always goes out after that EoD

[Hally]

Idk what you’re saying no about

She always goes out after that EoD

no. arete is an obvious villager for how they treated tony. their progression from finding tony sus/voting him to then getting cold feet and switching because of how people who knew tony were saying he was town isn’t wolfy. it’s totally in line with how i’d expect town!arete to handle that. also vul locked arete as town. we aren’t killing arete

[tedxtr]

Nah arete goes

[Hally]

not with one vote they don’t

[tedxtr]

Epi prolly looks a whole lot better after that

[tedxtr]

Also Ash

[tedxtr]

Ash
Epignosis
LC
Ted
Poison

All town question mark

[Hally]

why are you clearing lc?

[tedxtr]

The fact that I had a better meta read on TSP without seeing any of his scum games just makes me wanna snap nanook and not even think about it

His D1 was entirely off i don’t get how he thought TSP was town

[tedxtr]

why are you clearing lc?

Iirc he looked at my tony case and then he voted lol

[tedxtr]

112 can also probably perish off the Ash case where he points out 112’s progression on Tony

[Hally]

The fact that I had a better meta read on TSP without seeing any of his scum games just makes me wanna snap nanook and not even think about it

His D1 was entirely off i don’t get how he thought TSP was town

i don’t actually know that nook is one to hard defend teammates like that tbh. he’s had somewhat of a track record lately of hard defending mafia as town

[Hally]

why are you clearing lc?

Iirc he looked at my tony case and then he voted lol

he voted tony only at the last second D1. not before

[tedxtr]

Even better then

[tedxtr]

Well I’m basically lock cleared off my tony progression on D1 so I’ll take my ticket to DVC

Will stop posting unless I have scum cases and such, I no longer have to prove I’m town

[Hally]

Even better then

why is that better? his vote did nothing

[tedxtr]

idk i'll look into it

later, got classes

good job town poisoner, you're goat

[Poison]

Arete cleared, ash obviously cleared. Ted prooobably cleared but have to do my due diligence there and haven’t yet. Poison remains cleared. This game is still easy.

we have the same clears why are you snarking me

You’ve seen my scum game and still put me in your POE

Nook is probably just town, I don't really see him as scum

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

The relevant reason to TR arete is Vul, not their handling of TSP.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

As far as the TSP misread goes

Shit happens

One person in my towncore being wrong is not totally unexpected, it happens. Especially lately tbh. If all the mafia were in my towncore you can mock me in post, otherwise this “nanook has bad reads look at TSP’s flip lulz” is a bit much. Like...it’s one bad town read on a player that was playing largely to his meta, so. Meh.

[tedxtr]

My point wasn't to belittle you, it was to point out that from a meta standpoint, I thought he was very different and you thought he was playing exactly to his meta.

Sorry if it came off the wrong way.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I mean

Tbh I still don’t see it even with his flip, I thought he was still within town meta

But obviously there was something there I missed, I’ll chalk it up to a blind spot to try and fix moving forward

[Ash Lael]

Also you’re British yeah? Or do I just have that in my head cause of your avatar

I'm Australian.

I probably won't do any meta-diving.

In terms of confidence level, there's the inside view and the outside view, right? From the outside view I understand I often have bad, overconfident reads. But from the inside, when I really lock onto a read I can get ultra convinced of it to the point I can't really comprehend being wrong. As my presence in this game attests (I was so sure Dya was scum...)

So yeah. Expect me to be slightly above rand in accuracy but to talk like I've seen everyone's role cards.

I saw game 8 don't expect me to believe this

Just started working on Tony's Iso for spew and this is now my favourite post in the game.

[tedxtr]

Arete makes 1000 times less sense than 112 at that EoD

not sure how I feel about 112's flip on Tony when looking at that EoD

i wanna say it's villagery but maybe I'm massively underestimating them

[tedxtr]

new voltron

ted
epi
poison
112

probably villagers

wilgy
ash lael


Nanook / Hally / LC / Arete

[Long Con]

I really don't get why Arete gets to coast through the game because some guy I never met claims he's got indisputable reads on someone else I never met.

[Long Con]

Both Epi and 112 are pretty convincing with their stuff. I did like 112's "you fools " post because it seems genuine or whatever, but I don't know if something like that can be enough for me at this point.

[tedxtr]

checking in briefly, will probably have to dip again

the number of people familiar with TSP's meta saying things like 'WHY ARE YOU KILLING HIM HE'S ALWAYS LIKE THIS' is making me kind of nervous

also I obviously don't want a rand

but killing a 2-poster seems kind of mrrr

but I kind of think I might do it anyway

wowee

yea i think ted is the only one who knows tony that’s like actively scum reading him but it’s possible the rest of us suck

Spoiler: show

sorry had to flex a little, been feeling like shit in all of my town games for different reasons

[tedxtr]

I keep getting pushed off scum doooooooooooooooood

it'd be prettay funny if I had better meta reads on both tony AND arete here

and sad at the same time

[Long Con]

Can we agree there has to be a wolf in: Arete, Hally, tutuu, Nanook, and Wilgy?

[tedxtr]

i need to rebuild my confidence and stop letting people push me off my reads

now, with that being said, if my post on Arete still gets ignored, let's do a little thought exercise

does anybody want to tell me why TSP would tack on this sentence here :

sorry guys, i was feeling pretty lousy and turns out i had some food poisoning and im still a little out of it but im here

gth reads without reading the thread, but a few tone-posts from each player here we go

112 - w
Arete - t
Ash Lael - w
DrWilgy - t
Hally - w
Long Con - t
Michelle - w
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - t
Poison Chan - t
tedxtr - w
TonyStarkPrime - t
TripleHaven - t
tutuu - t
Vulgard - t

my poe is
112
ash
hally
michelle
ted

i wanna say my strongest town reads are nanook and longcon tbh. my weakest wolf read is ted, so i will not vote for him until day 3 at least.

the person i think most likely could swing w from my t reads is vulgard for possible tmi, but i will eventually read up (or not) see what he has to offer.

high poster hally in a vacuum should be town, but i felt like she was gaslighting us with questions and content which she doesn't really build from. like they're prods and questions which she doesn't really care about one way or the other.

don't really know much about tsp, except he didn't like one of my posts and i like that reaction. no idea if triplehaven has posted yet, i'll get there.

wilgy im giving a soul town read to.

The bolded is always a weird thing to think about. I think because Dunya expressed it directly here maybe it's more likely to come from town? Level 1 is it means w!dunya because t!dunya gets mad at me for an incorrect read, but I don't think Dunya plays like that.
It's a decent looking poe though. Neither of arete or vulgard. I think scum who's skimming would throw one in.

[Long Con]

One, if not two.

[Long Con]

Those are the ones that saved Tony on Day 1.

Also, sorry for not being around last night, I was playing Risk 2210 at a friend's house until 3:30 in the morning. Now it's 8:30, and I got my kids off to school, and I'm going back for some more sleep.

[tedxtr]

Two in Nanook / Hally / Arete ?

LC's probably having the game of his life here, if scum.

[Poison]

new voltron

ted
epi
poison
112

probably villagers

wilgy
ash lael


Nanook / Hally / LC / Arete

why 112, why? why?

[Poison]

Both Epi and 112 are pretty convincing with their stuff. I did like 112's "you fools " post because it seems genuine or whatever, but I don't know if something like that can be enough for me at this point.

you fools.

[tedxtr]

[VOTE: Hally ] aubergine

[Poison]

Can we agree there has to be a wolf in: Arete, Hally, tutuu, Nanook, and Wilgy?

tutuu is the woof! bingo!

[tedxtr]

kinda feel like we should sheep nook and give tony a day

This post is giving me horror scenario hally/Nanook/TSP thoughts.

Spoiler: show

My logical brain says although that team could get away with aligning more than most I still think it would distance more. My lizard brain says but what if?

this is pretty funny and genius if true

[Poison]

kinda feel like we should sheep nook and give tony a day

This post is giving me horror scenario hally/Nanook/TSP thoughts.

Spoiler: show

My logical brain says although that team could get away with aligning more than most I still think it would distance more. My lizard brain says but what if?

this is pretty funny and genius if true

i mean TSP's "I AM MAFIA" was pretty funny and genius as well

[tedxtr]

that would've sound ludicrous on d1 but on this very fine day, it may actually be the world we live in l o l

[Poison]

I am gonna look at Wilgy, I have overlooked him maybe

[Poison]

I like Epi's post on 112.

[tedxtr]

wilgy/tony have weird af interactions. like can everyone just read through wilgy’s iso looking specifically at tony stuff and tell me what you think. because i honestly cannot tell if the interactions are weird because they’re w/w or so weird that they cant be w/w

You're better than this.

clearly not

I don't think you're mafia anyhow. Your treatment of Tony looks honest. I'm fine with you.

did you read her D1 progression on Tony?

[Poison]

I think wilgy can be town honestly.

[tedxtr]

Epi's case doesn't move things for me a ton

wolf 112 never has that progression on a mafia partner, it lacks TMI imo

what kind of wolf makes a random comment on their partner, wolf leans them and then they make a post to a town voting them saying "he's voting a misyeet"

that happens like 10% of the time and it's done by a very specific type of wolf archetype which 112 does not fit

I believe the simple argument to refute the tony progression is that they liked the 2 solving posts but they still had meta with tony and they could've genuinely liked their posts in thread. Between the time I asked 112 about her TSP read and EoD I believe were 6 to 8 whole hours, and also when Tony started getting town read just for poasting.

112 still town, Hally's progression on Tony looks a lot more wolfier and I'll walk people through it much later if need be.

[Poison]

Epi's case doesn't move things for me a ton

wolf 112 never has that progression on a mafia partner, it lacks TMI imo

what kind of wolf makes a random comment on their partner, wolf leans them and then they make a post to a town voting them saying "he's voting a misyeet"

that happens like 10% of the time and it's done by a very specific type of wolf archetype which 112 does not fit

I believe the simple argument to refute the tony progression is that they liked the 2 solving posts but they still had meta with tony and they could've genuinely liked their posts in thread. Between the time I asked 112 about her TSP read and EoD I believe were 6 to 8 whole hours, and also when Tony started getting town read just for poasting.

112 still town, Hally's progression on Tony looks a lot more wolfier and I'll walk people through it much later if need be.

so basically your read on 112 is mostly based on thier meta?

[tedxtr]

Meta + lack of TMI when approaching Tony.

Wolves don't have that progression on a partner. Certainly not 112 either.

they've been villagery outside of that as well.

[mention]Hally[/mention] why'd you vote 112?

[Poison]

they are definitely not villagery outside of that, i think if i try to look from your pov, only that makes her slightly lean town that's too vague though.

[tedxtr]

if you're gonna have wolf reads based on "they haven't been villager-y" in a game where 75% of the time people are villagers and wolves play like wolves and have agendas then your read ~probably is wrong.