The Hobbit Mafia: Day 12

[Marmot]

It was Day 1, and that's a common strategy for Day 1 (even for me). And your comments from the Stanley Game bothered me a bit and caused me to wonder if that attitude had carried over.

I still haven't caught up on the whole thread, though I will be doing that now.

[thellama73]

It was Day 1, and that's a common strategy for Day 1 (even for me). And your comments from the Stanley Game bothered me a bit and caused me to wonder if that attitude had carried over.

I still haven't caught up on the whole thread, though I will be doing that now.

What did I say in the Stanley game?

[Marmot]

This

[thellama73]

I know you were camping, but this strikes me as interesting.

Re: The Hobbit Mafia
My random vote went to a Porcupine. See you all Sunday.

by Metalmarsh89
Fri May 30, 2014 9:54 pm

Then, silence silence silence for three days.
Then...

Right, of the five missed votes, BWT, FH and MM have literally said nothing on topic this game. Of those three, MM has said the most while saying the least, and hence is the most suspicious.

I am not really feeling Boogs today, so it comes down to MM versus Dom. Fight each other to avoid my vote, you two!

By thellama73
Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:48 am

Then, 34 minutes later...

Are you sure you did a reread? I told you all I'd be gone camping this weekend, which was why I missed the night vote.

Are you sure you don't just want me dead and gone? You've done this before.

by Metalmarsh89
Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:22 am

It's almost as if someone alerted you to the fact that you were being mentioned. A teammate, perhaps.

[thellama73]

This

I barely even remember making that post. I was just cranky in that game in general. I assure you it wasn't personal and I enjoy playing with you a lot! Sorry if you took it to heart.

[Vompatti]

I love random voters. They do themselves no favor in the endgame. Some of the mare even obvious.

A mare is an adult female horse or other equine.

[Marmot]

I know you were camping, but this strikes me as interesting.

Re: The Hobbit Mafia
My random vote went to a Porcupine. See you all Sunday.

by Metalmarsh89
Fri May 30, 2014 9:54 pm

Then, silence silence silence for three days.
Then...

Right, of the five missed votes, BWT, FH and MM have literally said nothing on topic this game. Of those three, MM has said the most while saying the least, and hence is the most suspicious.

I am not really feeling Boogs today, so it comes down to MM versus Dom. Fight each other to avoid my vote, you two!

By thellama73
Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:48 am

Then, 34 minutes later...

Are you sure you did a reread? I told you all I'd be gone camping this weekend, which was why I missed the night vote.

Are you sure you don't just want me dead and gone? You've done this before.

by Metalmarsh89
Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:22 am

It's almost as if someone alerted you to the fact that you were being mentioned. A teammate, perhaps.

Yes, I live in PST, and I wake up around 7:00. Your post happened to be at the end of the thread and I saw my name mentioned.

[Marmot]

For Such a Time as This
by Neal Dwarfs

For such a time as this, Gandalf is here
For all the time he took, he was not late nor soon
For such a time as this,
There's Mountains full of Mist
The old man is a magely kook
Ah, but you are still
Just a fool of a Took.

There once was an adventurous hobbit
Who crafted and sang many a sonnet
on a trip did he go
With some friends and a foe
and sang 'em nonstop 'til they cried "Stop It!"

And here we are now, begun a new quest
To seek the Lonely Mountain in the west
A wizard, a hobbit, and a handful as well
Of dwarves of all sizes, ages, and smell
Out of the Shire and onto the road
I now have my hanky; in my pocket it's stowed
And onward we travel, with haste in our tracks
Accompanied by ponies who have lightened our backs
What adventure awaits us on the morrow and more?
What creatures dwell ahead? What danger's in store?
Though these thoughts overwhelm; my resolve I renew
For thellama is with us with his mustache askew

I love you guys. Seriously.

The nitpick in me feels compelled to point out that Bilbo actually left his hobbit-hole that fateful day without his handkerchief. However, the poem you wrote is so brilliant that it's one of my favorites ever despite that, Metalmarsh.

I know that exact event happened. That's why I wrote the line as "I now have my hanky..."

[reywaS]

No death is great news!

For me, I found FZ's behavior when the lynch was going down, really weird. Usually we see eye to eye, feel the same way about situations but that couldn't have been farther from what happened. Her unwillingness to lynch MP along with her paranoia to the end just seemed strange. I don't necessarily think that would be on the same team, I think FZ would have cut ties with him (although I'm not sure what she would do on this site as opposed to our home site, I play a different scum game here). But I should have at least been able to feel a bit of paranoia similar to hers at the end of the lynch, perhaps it was because I wasn't here for everything to go down live? But she's caught my eye.

I also believe MP defended INH, who I was already suspicious of, and that could be a possible teammate of his.
However, something worth noting is both Reyas and Snowdog agreed (found here) with me in the way that it felt they were hopping on a suspicion without really doing anything. I can't necessarily fault them for agreeing, because I think I had a good point, but it stuck out to me.

While MP was bad, I was surprised to see Dom mention me when he voted for MP. It wasn't really needed, perhaps if Dom is on one team and didn't know if MP was bad he wanted something to fall back on. I'm not sure. Perhaps him agreeing with me is good though, I don't think we usually do, and I think I've only played with him when he's been a baddie or independent. That post can be found here.

Anyways, that is what caught my eye.

yeah, that's not what I was doing. I wasn't "hopping on a suspicion" at all. I was agreeing that INH's reaction to juliets was extreme...not that he was suspicious for it. I didn't get the feeling that you were suspicious of him for it either tbh.

[Marmot]

I always get nervous about these early split votes. It's too easy for a single baddie to tip the balance.

While I semi-agree, does that not give you an easy Day 2 target?

[Russtifinko]

For Such a Time as This
by Neal Dwarfs

For such a time as this, Gandalf is here
For all the time he took, he was not late nor soon
For such a time as this,
There's Mountains full of Mist
The old man is a magely kook
Ah, but you are still
Just a fool of a Took.

There once was an adventurous hobbit
Who crafted and sang many a sonnet
on a trip did he go
With some friends and a foe
and sang 'em nonstop 'til they cried "Stop It!"

And here we are now, begun a new quest
To seek the Lonely Mountain in the west
A wizard, a hobbit, and a handful as well
Of dwarves of all sizes, ages, and smell
Out of the Shire and onto the road
I now have my hanky; in my pocket it's stowed
And onward we travel, with haste in our tracks
Accompanied by ponies who have lightened our backs
What adventure awaits us on the morrow and more?
What creatures dwell ahead? What danger's in store?
Though these thoughts overwhelm; my resolve I renew
For thellama is with us with his mustache askew

I love you guys. Seriously.

The nitpick in me feels compelled to point out that Bilbo actually left his hobbit-hole that fateful day without his handkerchief. However, the poem you wrote is so brilliant that it's one of my favorites ever despite that, Metalmarsh.

I know that exact event happened. That's why I wrote the line as "I now have my hanky..."

Ah-ha! Well in that case it is one of my favorite poems ever, partly because of that reference.

[Marmot]

linki @ epi: are you implying dom is bad

Implying? No.

But I'll gladly exply:

I may not be back for the poll, so I am going to vote now. I am placing a vote on MP. I really don't like how he pointed it out so many times to vote nonparticipants. If people want to do this, that's fine, but he seemed to push it. I think K4J made a decent point.

Llama, I am not sure why you asked me what you did, but I await your response! :P

followed by

So my immediate thought is to look at the people MP talked about voting for, but then backed away from: Dom and FZ. It is typical of him to cast early doubts on them, then vote for someone else. That way, if they ever get lynched, he can claim he knew they were bad all along. Classic distancing.

I will say that you brought me up and MP capitalized. If he was distancing, would he wait for you to bring me up?

That's not something I can particularly defend against.

anyways,

I meant to vote MP. I voted, but I closed my laptop too quickly I think or something. :/ I'm really glad we lynched him though. I'll try and post more now, but I am staying here for a few more days and my jobs are picking up again.

Also, y'all posted a lot, I had like six or seven pages to read

How does closing your laptop too quickly (you think or something) stop your vote from going through?

I'm so tired of bullshit "real life" excuses that just don't make any sense.

Mafia don't even try anymore.

Epig is all out of remorse. Sorry FZ

[Mongoose]

Random: Matt is being chatty. And I like that. Sometimes he is like that when he is being managed on a team (Lizzy has handled him quite well in the past, for instance), but I think it's more than he was called out (and Vomperdoodle) for not being as helpful as he could. Matt's a realllllly smart guy, so I'm hoping it's just him feeling comfortable enough to participate more. Mattmatt, I hope you don't take offense of any of that. I know it doesn't sound very polite to insinuate someone is being coached, but that's not precisely what I mean (V&A wouldn't mind being coached by L, if you know what they mean).

First, who is Matt? And second, what do you mean by "if you know what they mean". Should that say "if you know what I mean" and if so, I don't know what you mean so could you explain what this means? (How many times can I use the word mean in a sentence?) Anyway, I would appreciate it if you could set me straight on what this is all about.

So sorry, Juliets. I'll be happy to clear this up. Matt = A Person, which is how I should address him in-game. The "if you know what they mean" is a joke because either him or Vomps will take an inadvertent double entendre that someone says, quote it, and say "I wouldn't mind XYZ.... if you know what I mean."

[juliets]

Thank you Mongoose!

[Dom]

Let me stop. Because I know how hard-headed I can be.

Dom- would you like to lynch Boogs?

I think Boogs is worthy of discussion, yes.

Am I sure that I want to lynch him? No.

linki @ epi: are you implying dom is bad

Implying? No.

But I'll gladly exply:

I may not be back for the poll, so I am going to vote now. I am placing a vote on MP. I really don't like how he pointed it out so many times to vote nonparticipants. If people want to do this, that's fine, but he seemed to push it. I think K4J made a decent point.

Llama, I am not sure why you asked me what you did, but I await your response! :P

followed by

So my immediate thought is to look at the people MP talked about voting for, but then backed away from: Dom and FZ. It is typical of him to cast early doubts on them, then vote for someone else. That way, if they ever get lynched, he can claim he knew they were bad all along. Classic distancing.

I will say that you brought me up and MP capitalized. If he was distancing, would he wait for you to bring me up?

That's not something I can particularly defend against.

anyways,

I meant to vote MP. I voted, but I closed my laptop too quickly I think or something. :/ I'm really glad we lynched him though. I'll try and post more now, but I am staying here for a few more days and my jobs are picking up again.

Also, y'all posted a lot, I had like six or seven pages to read

How does closing your laptop too quickly (you think or something) stop your vote from going through?

I'm so tired of bullshit "real life" excuses that just don't make any sense.

Mafia don't even try anymore.

Yes, Epig, I closed my laptop before I hit vote on accident. I am not making that up. This is like the second or third time that you have (in all time) accused me of making up excuses about stupid things I have done causing me to miss votes or ignore posts. Most of those times I have been civvie, I think-- I can't particularly remember.

For example, I never saw these posts because sometimes I don't hit the unread button and I hit the thread name from the home forum page. That causes it to go to the last post in the thread, and I scroll until I think I see things I've already seen. Sometimes I'm wrong about that.

LINKI: Epig, are you saying that llama and MP are on the same team?

I do not think so at all. For the record. I was making sure you weren't being remotely serious.

When I put someone else under the hot light, you don't help by asking me what I mean. Hence the evil eye. I wasn't addressing anything to you.

[Marmot]

Hey Dom, wanna fight over llama's vote.

[reywaS]

nub Dom

or

Dominub

[thellama73]

Hey Dom, wanna fight over llama's vote.

Please do. I expect it to be most enlightening.

[reywaS]

Do you?

[reywaS]

nub Dom

or

Dominub

I just realized that Domanub works better.

[Lizzy]

Hai! I'm back! and kaput! :\ I'll try to catch up and see what is going on k.

[FZ.]

I'll be sticking with my focus on the high posters this game. You know who you are.

Top ten posters, you've been warned.

Bring it.

What is the appropriate comeback to this? Brought it!

Hedgie, did you vote for MP simply because he's the top poster?

Actually no. I looked at the top 5 posters at the time; MP, Llama, You- TH, Leamiteo, and Metal. Of those 5 only MP had a vote on him already. Since I know it is typical of his and llamas playstyle to to be top posters I would have cut him some slack. However, the votes were already so spread out. I can't claim anything more brilliant than that honestly.

I did go back and look at WWE where the top posters thing started for me. Of the top 10 posters, 4 out of 6 were bad. Granted two of them were alive at the end of the game. Based on this small sample group I decided to test this theory again.

So sorry to miss playing with you MP however. This is already a game off to a great start with lively discussion.

This whole post doesn't make me feel good about you. Your vote for MP yesterday bugged me, and the fact that he came out baddie doesn't change the fact that your vote for him and you telling people to not spread their vote after that seemed like a good way to explain a vote that had no reasoning behind it, and maybe give some of your possible team mates a reason to vote MP ("we didn't want to spread the votes").
Now, this "Brought it" feels to me like you're trying to make sure we think of you as responsible for a baddie lynch.
As for the top poster theory, I've played enough games where there was only one or two baddies in the top posters, but this reasoning clears you of any responsibility if it fails

[FZ.]

Wow, great call on MP there! Second game in a row I've seen a baddie die on day one and that hardly ever happens usually. I always forget to pack something, and it's usually something really important and super obvious like my phone charger. I once packed my xbox to go to uni but forgot to pack the plug and video cable so I basically had a useless box in my room for a few days. I guess that means I probably forgot to pack food.

You're being very quiet this game. I played two games with you when I started on this site, and I remember you as being a lot more vocal and perceptive. Where are you?

[Lizzy]

Wow, great call on MP there! Second game in a row I've seen a baddie die on day one and that hardly ever happens usually. I always forget to pack something, and it's usually something really important and super obvious like my phone charger. I once packed my xbox to go to uni but forgot to pack the plug and video cable so I basically had a useless box in my room for a few days. I guess that means I probably forgot to pack food.

You're being very quiet this game. I played two games with you when I started on this site, and I remember you as being a lot more vocal and perceptive. Where are you?

I don't really have anything major to add at this point, in fact I will probably be relatively absent until tomorrow afternoon. This is sort of a busy weekend for me in terms of social activities.

[FZ.]

No death is great news!

For me, I found FZ's behavior when the lynch was going down, really weird. Usually we see eye to eye, feel the same way about situations but that couldn't have been farther from what happened. Her unwillingness to lynch MP along with her paranoia to the end just seemed strange. I don't necessarily think that would be on the same team, I think FZ would have cut ties with him (although I'm not sure what she would do on this site as opposed to our home site, I play a different scum game here). But I should have at least been able to feel a bit of paranoia similar to hers at the end of the lynch, perhaps it was because I wasn't here for everything to go down live? But she's caught my eye.

I also believe MP defended INH, who I was already suspicious of, and that could be a possible teammate of his.
However, something worth noting is both Reyas and Snowdog agreed (found here) with me in the way that it felt they were hopping on a suspicion without really doing anything. I can't necessarily fault them for agreeing, because I think I had a good point, but it stuck out to me.

While MP was bad, I was surprised to see Dom mention me when he voted for MP. It wasn't really needed, perhaps if Dom is on one team and didn't know if MP was bad he wanted something to fall back on. I'm not sure. Perhaps him agreeing with me is good though, I don't think we usually do, and I think I've only played with him when he's been a baddie or independent. That post can be found here.

Anyways, that is what caught my eye.

I don't know what your problem is. I explained why I was hesitant in voting MP. It felt like the votes were piling up on him, which is something I'm not used to here, and while I started feeling less sure he was a civvie in the last day or so, I started out feeling he was the most civvie of them all, the way he progressed the game, so I was still hesitant to call him a baddie, not to mention my stupid tendency to view people who are suspicious of me as more civ 'than baddie. Anyway, that was what was going on through my mind, and you of all people should be able to get me in situations like this. This is the second time you've said something that I really don't expect you to say, and it's starting to worry me. If you'd said I could be on MP's team, I'd know you're bad , but saying I might be on the other team is clever enough to make me hesitate on this.

[FZ.]

Thanks Lizzie I missed that.

I have to go, I'll be back later

[Lizzy]

I'll be sticking with my focus on the high posters this game. You know who you are.

Top ten posters, you've been warned.

Bring it.

What is the appropriate comeback to this? Brought it!

Hedgie, did you vote for MP simply because he's the top poster?

Actually no. I looked at the top 5 posters at the time; MP, Llama, You- TH, Leamiteo, and Metal. Of those 5 only MP had a vote on him already. Since I know it is typical of his and llamas playstyle to to be top posters I would have cut him some slack. However, the votes were already so spread out. I can't claim anything more brilliant than that honestly.

I did go back and look at WWE where the top posters thing started for me. Of the top 10 posters, 4 out of 6 were bad. Granted two of them were alive at the end of the game. Based on this small sample group I decided to test this theory again.

So sorry to miss playing with you MP however. This is already a game off to a great start with lively discussion.

This whole post doesn't make me feel good about you. Your vote for MP yesterday bugged me, and the fact that he came out baddie doesn't change the fact that your vote for him and you telling people to not spread their vote after that seemed like a good way to explain a vote that had no reasoning behind it, and maybe give some of your possible team mates a reason to vote MP ("we didn't want to spread the votes").
Now, this "Brought it" feels to me like you're trying to make sure we think of you as responsible for a baddie lynch.
As for the top poster theory, I've played enough games where there was only one or two baddies in the top posters, but this reasoning clears you of any responsibility if it fails

It's been a while since I've played a big game with Hedgie, but this has been her civvie style recently: going after indies, or members of VAL, now the high posters - weird shit like that. This type of reasoning is bound to draw attention and she knows that. She's actually a very good and careful baddie. It is possible she adopted the same strategy as a baddie to lead us on, but for now I don't see anything out of the ordinary with this.

[Turnip Head]

I think if MP was distancing from any of his teammates yesterday, that his vote for Daisy stands out the most. It wasn't based on much, and Daisy seemed particularly nonplussed by it, and I don't see him voting for his significant other on Day 1 without some kind of ulterior motive. MP is usually pretty good at explaining his thought process, but his quick vote for Daisy seemed... exploitative, almost. Like he had come up with just enough reason to mention her and throw a vote on her.

[Turnip Head]

And which is a more immortal form of distancing: small side conversations on Day 1 that nobody will have remembered if we were talking about MP on say, Day 5? Or voting records which, as Kyle mentioned, there's an entire thread dedicated to preserving.

[thellama73]

I think if MP was distancing from any of his teammates yesterday, that his vote for Daisy stands out the most. It wasn't based on much, and Daisy seemed particularly nonplussed by it, and I don't see him voting for his significant other on Day 1 without some kind of ulterior motive. MP is usually pretty good at explaining his thought process, but his quick vote for Daisy seemed... exploitative, almost. Like he had come up with just enough reason to mention her and throw a vote on her.

I thought about this too, and I think it's a really good point. He knew she was in no danger of being lynched, so a vote on her was totally safe.

[Dom]

nub Dom

or

Dominub

'

And which is a more immortal form of distancing: small side conversations on Day 1 that nobody will have remembered if we were talking about MP on say, Day 5? Or voting records which, as Kyle mentioned, there's an entire thread dedicated to preserving.

This is true.



I have a day planned ahead of me. I'll try and get back tonight!

[thellama73]

Daisy seemed particularly nonplussed by it.

Nonplussed means the opposite of what you think it means.

I also note that Daisy defended Dom on Day 1. The plot thickens.

[Turnip Head]

Well at least you knew what I thought I meant.

Is nonnonplussed a word? Plussed? My whole life is a lie.

[reywaS]

No death is great news!

For me, I found FZ's behavior when the lynch was going down, really weird. Usually we see eye to eye, feel the same way about situations but that couldn't have been farther from what happened. Her unwillingness to lynch MP along with her paranoia to the end just seemed strange. I don't necessarily think that would be on the same team, I think FZ would have cut ties with him (although I'm not sure what she would do on this site as opposed to our home site, I play a different scum game here). But I should have at least been able to feel a bit of paranoia similar to hers at the end of the lynch, perhaps it was because I wasn't here for everything to go down live? But she's caught my eye.

I also believe MP defended INH, who I was already suspicious of, and that could be a possible teammate of his.
However, something worth noting is both Reyas and Snowdog agreed (found here) with me in the way that it felt they were hopping on a suspicion without really doing anything. I can't necessarily fault them for agreeing, because I think I had a good point, but it stuck out to me.

While MP was bad, I was surprised to see Dom mention me when he voted for MP. It wasn't really needed, perhaps if Dom is on one team and didn't know if MP was bad he wanted something to fall back on. I'm not sure. Perhaps him agreeing with me is good though, I don't think we usually do, and I think I've only played with him when he's been a baddie or independent. That post can be found here.

Anyways, that is what caught my eye.

I don't know what your problem is. I explained why I was hesitant in voting MP. It felt like the votes were piling up on him, which is something I'm not used to here, and while I started feeling less sure he was a civvie in the last day or so, I started out feeling he was the most civvie of them all, the way he progressed the game, so I was still hesitant to call him a baddie, not to mention my stupid tendency to view people who are suspicious of me as more civ 'than baddie. Anyway, that was what was going on through my mind, and you of all people should be able to get me in situations like this. This is the second time you've said something that I really don't expect you to say, and it's starting to worry me. If you'd said I could be on MP's team, I'd know you're bad , but saying I might be on the other team is clever enough to make me hesitate on this.

Guilty conscience?

[Lizzy]

I think if MP was distancing from any of his teammates yesterday, that his vote for Daisy stands out the most. It wasn't based on much, and Daisy seemed particularly nonplussed by it, and I don't see him voting for his significant other on Day 1 without some kind of ulterior motive. MP is usually pretty good at explaining his thought process, but his quick vote for Daisy seemed... exploitative, almost. Like he had come up with just enough reason to mention her and throw a vote on her.

I thought about this too, and I think it's a really good point. He knew she was in no danger of being lynched, so a vote on her was totally safe.

So he basically distanced himself from 3 people: FZ, Dom and Daisy. We know he has the habit of dropping one or two teammates' name, but I can't remember if he actually ever voted for them. I was wondering though, he's been doing the same thing every single time he's bad, and he knows we know it because we've called him out on it, so I wonder... what if this is a slight change of strategy?

Some things drew my attention: his interaction with Snowy, his picking on Bullz (more or less jokingly) for randomising a player who had just returned from a long break, Snowy's reasoning 'maybe...' for voting for INH, raising an eyebrow when Llama accused Dom, from whom MP distanced himself. I feel terrible because I've been waiting for Snowy's grand return, but I'll have to keep an eye on him.

[Lizzy]

EBWOP: reasoning AND timing of Snowy's vote for INH.

Also, another form of distancing is throwing your teammate under the bus. I wonder if we there's at least one of MP's teammates in those 6 that voted for him.

[Turnip Head]

I'd chalk up the Dom thing as trying to get the ball rolling on behalf of Llama's gut. The FZ thing seemed an intentional dead-end suspicion that allowed MP to contemplate his navel and look like he was sorting through things. The Daisy vote seems like... well, like distancing.

[Turnip Head]

Also, between the time where I and others presented the case on MP, and the time when MP actually started taking votes, there were a LOT of randomized votes... mostly from people who did not even acknowledge the case on MP. Not wanting to vote for a teammate on Day 1 but also not wanting to defend him or start a counter bandwagon, mayhaps?

[thellama73]

Also, another form of distancing is throwing your teammate under the bus. I wonder if we there's at least one of MP's teammates in those 6 that voted for him.

An interesting thought.

Turnip Head (18), Hedgeowl (19), juliets (20), Captain Bunny Killer (21), kneel4justice (23), Epignosis (24) 25%

I don't believe Rob and MP were on a team (if they were, they would have won by now) and TH and Hedgeowl's votes would have been too risky for teammates, but you may be onto something with juliets, CBK or K4J.

[Turnip Head]

Oh snap, I went back and looked and I see what you're saying about Snow Dog, Lizzy I've never played with him before, is it customary for him to have that sort of noncommittal vibe to his suspicions? He kept saying he would "maybe" vote INH, or INH could "maybe" be a baddie, like he was afraid to commit to the idea.

[Lizzy]

I'm ashamed to say it, but I don't remember. And I don't remember playing with Snowy a game where he was bad.

[Epignosis]

Snow Dog was bad in Bioshock Mafia and Masters of the Universe Mafia.

[Lizzy]

Also, another form of distancing is throwing your teammate under the bus. I wonder if we there's at least one of MP's teammates in those 6 that voted for him.

An interesting thought.

Turnip Head (18), Hedgeowl (19), juliets (20), Captain Bunny Killer (21), kneel4justice (23), Epignosis (24) 25%

I don't believe Rob and MP were on a team (if they were, they would have won by now) and TH and Hedgeowl's votes would have been too risky for teammates, but you may be onto something with juliets, CBK or K4J.

I just find it interesting how the votes came pouring in. Only the 22nd vote is missing from that bandwagon, and that's Snowy's. I wonder if there isn't at least one baddie from the other team who decided to join in though.

Linki - thanks, Rob.

[thellama73]

Snow Dog was bad in Bioshock Mafia and Masters of the Universe Mafia.

I won one of those games and lost the other, but was bad in neither.

[thellama73]

Snow Dog was bad in Bioshock Mafia and Masters of the Universe Mafia.

I won one of those games and lost the other, but was bad in neither.

[thellama73]

Oops, sorry for the double post.

[Mongoose]

I think if MP was distancing from any of his teammates yesterday, that his vote for Daisy stands out the most. It wasn't based on much, and Daisy seemed particularly nonplussed by it, and I don't see him voting for his significant other on Day 1 without some kind of ulterior motive. MP is usually pretty good at explaining his thought process, but his quick vote for Daisy seemed... exploitative, almost. Like he had come up with just enough reason to mention her and throw a vote on her.

I thought about this too, and I think it's a really good point. He knew she was in no danger of being lynched, so a vote on her was totally safe.

Yeah, but she hadn't said anything remotely pingy, let alone damning. Was he trying to pull off a forced "random vote"?

[thellama73]

I think if MP was distancing from any of his teammates yesterday, that his vote for Daisy stands out the most. It wasn't based on much, and Daisy seemed particularly nonplussed by it, and I don't see him voting for his significant other on Day 1 without some kind of ulterior motive. MP is usually pretty good at explaining his thought process, but his quick vote for Daisy seemed... exploitative, almost. Like he had come up with just enough reason to mention her and throw a vote on her.

I thought about this too, and I think it's a really good point. He knew she was in no danger of being lynched, so a vote on her was totally safe.

Yeah, but she hadn't said anything remotely pingy, let alone damning. Was he trying to pull off a forced "random vote"?

I don't understand that, and I won't respond to it.

[Turnip Head]

I will check in tomorrow if I can. At least to vote but I won't have much time. I think I know who I'm voting for..but I want to see if anything changes.

Omg! Thought I missed the vote. But I'm no longer willing to vote on who I planned & don't know that I'll be able to catch up. My phone battery is 13%. Is there a punishment for not voting? I hate voting if I don't have at least an idea. Might have to go with INH. Or MP, he's the only other to catch my eye but I'm thinking that's just because he's vocal.

These posts sit right next to each other in k4j's In-Topic posts. k4j, are you able to tell us any more about whom this first post refers to? I do think it's odd that you made sure to say you wouldn't have much time when/if you came back to vote yesterday; even in your next post (20 mins before the vote) you say that you don't even know if you'll have time to catch up. What changed between Friday night when you seemed confident about your vote and Saturday where you came back to say you might not catch up, but yet you are no longer confident about the player you had in mind? You seem to have strongly changed your opinion on this player, because you were contemplating not voting at all and asking about punishments for missing the vote. But it also looks like you're saying you hadn't read the thread yet.

[juliets]

Also, another form of distancing is throwing your teammate under the bus. I wonder if we there's at least one of MP's teammates in those 6 that voted for him.

An interesting thought.

Turnip Head (18), Hedgeowl (19), juliets (20), Captain Bunny Killer (21), kneel4justice (23), Epignosis (24) 25%

I don't believe Rob and MP were on a team (if they were, they would have won by now) and TH and Hedgeowl's votes would have been too risky for teammates, but you may be onto something with juliets, CBK or K4J.

At the time I voted, MP, Faraday, and Daisy all had two votes. I was the one who broke the tie that put MP in the lead. Do you think his teammate would have done that?

linki