Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:39 am
I don't think it's within tutuu's scum range to use a personal attack on someone who correctly scumread her when she is a wolf. That just doesn't seem like something she would do.
You think she's too kind spirited to do that? Tutuu is sweet but I don't think getting pissed off at being tunneled by town and sounding off is beyond her.
So I don't know tuutuu's range, but I think you frequently see players get personal as mafia members if they get called out early or for bad reasoning. Which seems to be what happened there.
Not alignment indicative.
I am bothered by how many bad reads are being made in this game.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:17 pm
CDC players rub off on each other is something you read one of them say and are now regurgitating it. It is a mafia forum not a North Korean military camp.
Re. blind faith it is because you did it a second time to someone else. I now think you actually just have no reason for the town read and are afraid to admit it.
No it's not, it's something I've mentioned before and I think they have very similar tone and approaches to the game.
Who else have I asked for a blind faith read on? Do you really think I have no ability to make up some bullshit reason if I'm scum?
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:39 am
I don't think it's within tutuu's scum range to use a personal attack on someone who correctly scumread her when she is a wolf. That just doesn't seem like something she would do.
You think she's too kind spirited to do that? Tutuu is sweet but I don't think getting pissed off at being tunneled by town and sounding off is beyond her.
So I don't know tuutuu's range, but I think you frequently see players get personal as mafia members if they get called out early or for bad reasoning. Which seems to be what happened there.
Not alignment indicative.
I am bothered by how many bad reads are being made in this game.
I hope you're not including me in that bad read thing, or I'll be very sad. Then make sure you get lynched.
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:19 pm
anyway, sloonei is actually lock mafia sheep me fools
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:25 pm
meant his 2nd post about wishing he had a sock / not wanting ppl to read him
anyway his iso has gotten even worse recently, talking about forum tools and other non-game-relevant stuff, trying to act forcedly casual, and obviously being more aware of the mafia anon thing bringing it up and then trying to cover that up by saying he could be misreading it, i had no idea that was even a thing but clearly he did. like it's possible he had just read it carefully and noticed it but i wasn't convinced that was the correct interpretation until sprit confirmed cause it seems so wild to me, but sloonei seemed to know
Hmmmmmmm
I'm not sure if a !scum sloonei is the correct call for that sort of thing.
If he's a wolf and he's not talking about the game then he's not trying to drive the thread anywhere, for better or worse.
Ideally speaking, a wolf would want to influence the thread so its more favorable to them.
[srike]Of course, he DID win the champs and I don't exactly "know" them but I would rather not risk overthinking this[/strike]
i dont wanna bring in champs reads too much but he was only ever town in his games there so it's not really representative of his skill as wolf alignment and remember how i found him easily in grasslands
his iso here is shit.
Sloonei's ISO is very similar to what it was at the start of Grasslands. He said in wolf chat that he could fake solving but found it hard to fake motivation, and I'm not seeing much motivation here. Is Sloonei generally lower motivation as scum?
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:43 pm
Grand Scheme is literally open wolfing in front of everyone's faces.
i dont see it
Says they want to see the tutuu conflict firsthand, but no followup or evidence they actually went back and read it. Is asked for thoughts, lays down two townreads on consensus-townread players. You ask people to sheep you on Sloonei, and they agree immediately, in a way that makes it clear it's "not their fault" if Sloonei flips green. Follows by straight-up giving advice to a mafia role on optimal play. I see this as hostile 3P trying to help the mafia coordinate by giving advice to the Obliterator.
You are being far too serious, and reading far too much into my posts. I'm just chatting here, not coordinating doomsday, and why would I, as a third-party, want to help the mafia? And how does what I said even help the mafia?
It's not advice, it's awareness, literally responding to nutella's concern that wolf-hunting will be difficult due to anonymity.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:17 pm
CDC players rub off on each other is something you read one of them say and are now regurgitating it. It is a mafia forum not a North Korean military camp.
Re. blind faith it is because you did it a second time to someone else. I now think you actually just have no reason for the town read and are afraid to admit it.
No it's not, it's something I've mentioned before and I think they have very similar tone and approaches to the game.
Who else have I asked for a blind faith read on? Do you really think I have no ability to make up some bullshit reason if I'm scum?
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:43 pm
Grand Scheme is literally open wolfing in front of everyone's faces.
i dont see it
Says they want to see the tutuu conflict firsthand, but no followup or evidence they actually went back and read it. Is asked for thoughts, lays down two townreads on consensus-townread players. You ask people to sheep you on Sloonei, and they agree immediately, in a way that makes it clear it's "not their fault" if Sloonei flips green. Follows by straight-up giving advice to a mafia role on optimal play. I see this as hostile 3P trying to help the mafia coordinate by giving advice to the Obliterator.
huh
i dont view any of that as stuff a townie couldnt post but ok
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:19 pm
anyway, sloonei is actually lock mafia sheep me fools
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:25 pm
meant his 2nd post about wishing he had a sock / not wanting ppl to read him
anyway his iso has gotten even worse recently, talking about forum tools and other non-game-relevant stuff, trying to act forcedly casual, and obviously being more aware of the mafia anon thing bringing it up and then trying to cover that up by saying he could be misreading it, i had no idea that was even a thing but clearly he did. like it's possible he had just read it carefully and noticed it but i wasn't convinced that was the correct interpretation until sprit confirmed cause it seems so wild to me, but sloonei seemed to know
Hmmmmmmm
I'm not sure if a !scum sloonei is the correct call for that sort of thing.
If he's a wolf and he's not talking about the game then he's not trying to drive the thread anywhere, for better or worse.
Ideally speaking, a wolf would want to influence the thread so its more favorable to them.
[srike]Of course, he DID win the champs and I don't exactly "know" them but I would rather not risk overthinking this[/strike]
i dont wanna bring in champs reads too much but he was only ever town in his games there so it's not really representative of his skill as wolf alignment and remember how i found him easily in grasslands
his iso here is shit.
Sloonei's ISO is very similar to what it was at the start of Grasslands. He said in wolf chat that he could fake solving but found it hard to fake motivation, and I'm not seeing much motivation here. Is Sloonei generally lower motivation as scum?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm
Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)
112 - Hadn't posted yet but I've got them null based on the realtime
Alison - Probably just town
BoKnows - Town through Alison
Chuck - Hadn't posted
falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Grand Scheme - Hadn't posted
Joe Who? - Hadn't posted
Kylemii - One post town read
KZA - Lean mafia
Made - Hadn't posted
MartinG99 - Hadn't posted
NIK - Lean mafia
novaselineever - Hadn't posted
nutella - Slightly townie
Poison - Different to Tutuu
polypies73 - Fairly townie
Sabie12 - Hadn't posted
sigurd - Null on realtime but hadn't posted
Sloonei - Null
Stupid Sexy Flanders - Town
Thunal33 - Lean mafia
Thundercat - Null
Towny McTownface - Hadn't posted
tutuu - I kinda wanna protect her, I think she might be town
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm
Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)
112 - Hadn't posted yet but I've got them null based on the realtime
Alison - Probably just town
BoKnows - Town through Alison
Chuck - Hadn't posted
falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Grand Scheme - Hadn't posted
Joe Who? - Hadn't posted
Kylemii - One post town read
KZA - Lean mafia
Made - Hadn't posted
MartinG99 - Hadn't posted
NIK - Lean mafia
novaselineever - Hadn't posted
nutella - Slightly townie
Poison - Different to Tutuu
polypies73 - Fairly townie
Sabie12 - Hadn't posted
sigurd - Null on realtime but hadn't posted
Sloonei - Null
Stupid Sexy Flanders - Town
Thunal33 - Lean mafia
Thundercat - Null
Towny McTownface - Hadn't posted
tutuu - I kinda wanna protect her, I think she might be town
hey uh jojoe
u wolfin
???
easy to just say this, what exactly about my post is wolfy Nutella?
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:08 pm
My Canucks friends think I'm scum which is sad because I think BK and Falcon are definitely town. Flanders is probably just town too, I'm sure he'll let us know if he's not.
NIK is either trying to spin a narrative on me or genuinely expected me to shitpost all day and I'm letting him down. Gonna have to be null on him for now, I know he missed me.
That's it for my rusty rusty meta reads. 112 please arrive soon.
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Other updated thoughts from me Thunal town, their early progression on I think Tutuu seemed believable.
Allison is probably just town, even though I know she likes wolfing.
MacD could be scum, playing a lot like he did early on as scum in Pyre Mafia. Worth noting I'm not very familiar with his play in general though.
I feel like half the player list or less has checked in and most of the discussion is coming from 3 or 4 people so I'm gonna keep chilling.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm
Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)
112 - Hadn't posted yet but I've got them null based on the realtime
Alison - Probably just town
BoKnows - Town through Alison
Chuck - Hadn't posted
falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Grand Scheme - Hadn't posted
Joe Who? - Hadn't posted
Kylemii - One post town read
KZA - Lean mafia
Made - Hadn't posted
MartinG99 - Hadn't posted
NIK - Lean mafia
novaselineever - Hadn't posted
nutella - Slightly townie
Poison - Different to Tutuu
polypies73 - Fairly townie
Sabie12 - Hadn't posted
sigurd - Null on realtime but hadn't posted
Sloonei - Null
Stupid Sexy Flanders - Town
Thunal33 - Lean mafia
Thundercat - Null
Towny McTownface - Hadn't posted
tutuu - I kinda wanna protect her, I think she might be town
hey uh jojoe
u wolfin
???
easy to just say this, what exactly about my post is wolfy Nutella?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm
Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)
112 - Hadn't posted yet but I've got them null based on the realtime
Alison - Probably just town
BoKnows - Town through Alison
Chuck - Hadn't posted
falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Grand Scheme - Hadn't posted
Joe Who? - Hadn't posted
Kylemii - One post town read
KZA - Lean mafia
Made - Hadn't posted
MartinG99 - Hadn't posted
NIK - Lean mafia
novaselineever - Hadn't posted
nutella - Slightly townie
Poison - Different to Tutuu
polypies73 - Fairly townie
Sabie12 - Hadn't posted
sigurd - Null on realtime but hadn't posted
Sloonei - Null
Stupid Sexy Flanders - Town
Thunal33 - Lean mafia
Thundercat - Null
Towny McTownface - Hadn't posted
tutuu - I kinda wanna protect her, I think she might be town
hey uh jojoe
u wolfin
???
easy to just say this, what exactly about my post is wolfy Nutella?
hmmm
I think it's a fair question. Felt like she was just trying to push suspicion onto me without actually providing any reasoning.
sig wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:30 pm
Also I think the whole tuutuu isn't being silly "tuutuu" enough is dumb and NAI. I do think people trying to say she's suspicious for not being enough like herself are potentially mafia members trying to find an easy d1 scapegoat.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:17 pm
CDC players rub off on each other is something you read one of them say and are now regurgitating it. It is a mafia forum not a North Korean military camp.
Re. blind faith it is because you did it a second time to someone else. I now think you actually just have no reason for the town read and are afraid to admit it.
No it's not, it's something I've mentioned before and I think they have very similar tone and approaches to the game.
Who else have I asked for a blind faith read on? Do you really think I have no ability to make up some bullshit reason if I'm scum?
Go on then. Make one up.
BoKnows hard shielding Flanders for meta reasons before the thread arrived at the consensus of him being town is townie. #203 and #599 from him shielding tutuu and telling the thread to move on is pro-town, since I think she's town. #203 also shows an eagerness to start building a towncore and clearing people, which is good. In general BoKnows tends to be a cards on the table, open and transparent player and his agenda is usually very plain. It's seems clear that his agenda this game is townie and focused on building bridges between players rather than burying them.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:17 pm
CDC players rub off on each other is something you read one of them say and are now regurgitating it. It is a mafia forum not a North Korean military camp.
Re. blind faith it is because you did it a second time to someone else. I now think you actually just have no reason for the town read and are afraid to admit it.
No it's not, it's something I've mentioned before and I think they have very similar tone and approaches to the game.
Who else have I asked for a blind faith read on? Do you really think I have no ability to make up some bullshit reason if I'm scum?
Go on then. Make one up.
BoKnows hard shielding Flanders for meta reasons before the thread arrived at the consensus of him being town is townie. #203 and #599 from him shielding tutuu and telling the thread to move on is pro-town, since I think she's town. #203 also shows an eagerness to start building a towncore and clearing people, which is good. In general BoKnows tends to be a cards on the table, open and transparent player and his agenda is usually very plain. It's seems clear that his agenda this game is townie and focused on building bridges between players rather than burying them.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:30 pm
I have a very very very good scum read on a certain someone for a verrrry good reason but I'm gonna keep it in my pocket for now.
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:43 pm
Grand Scheme is literally open wolfing in front of everyone's faces.
i dont see it
Says they want to see the tutuu conflict firsthand, but no followup or evidence they actually went back and read it. Is asked for thoughts, lays down two townreads on consensus-townread players. You ask people to sheep you on Sloonei, and they agree immediately, in a way that makes it clear it's "not their fault" if Sloonei flips green. Follows by straight-up giving advice to a mafia role on optimal play. I see this as hostile 3P trying to help the mafia coordinate by giving advice to the Obliterator.
You are being far too serious, and reading far too much into my posts. I'm just chatting here, not coordinating doomsday, and why would I, as a third-party, want to help the mafia? And how does what I said even help the mafia?
It's not advice, it's awareness, literally responding to nutella's concern that wolf-hunting will be difficult due to anonymity.
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:43 pm
Grand Scheme is literally open wolfing in front of everyone's faces.
i dont see it
Says they want to see the tutuu conflict firsthand, but no followup or evidence they actually went back and read it. Is asked for thoughts, lays down two townreads on consensus-townread players. You ask people to sheep you on Sloonei, and they agree immediately, in a way that makes it clear it's "not their fault" if Sloonei flips green. Follows by straight-up giving advice to a mafia role on optimal play.I see this as hostile 3P trying to help the mafia coordinate by giving advice to the Obliterator.
You are being far too serious, and reading far too much into my posts. I'm just chatting here, not coordinating doomsday, and why would I, as a third-party, want to help the mafia? And how does what I said even help the mafia?
It's not advice, it's awareness, literally responding to nutella's concern that wolf-hunting will be difficult due to anonymity.
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:39 am
I don't think it's within tutuu's scum range to use a personal attack on someone who correctly scumread her when she is a wolf. That just doesn't seem like something she would do.
You think she's too kind spirited to do that? Tutuu is sweet but I don't think getting pissed off at being tunneled by town and sounding off is beyond her.
yea i await the day i fake frustration as mafia so ppl stop townreading me for it. they are free to do so but i think its a cheap shot and i do not desire to get townread for it
I guess will actually read the thread now. I have 5 hours before I need to DM.
this is my first time playing with like 90% of you please do me a favor and tell me about yourselves. describe yourself as what type of reptile you would be if you were a reptile and I will know everything I need to know, thanks in advance
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:43 pm
Grand Scheme is literally open wolfing in front of everyone's faces.
i dont see it
Says they want to see the tutuu conflict firsthand, but no followup or evidence they actually went back and read it. Is asked for thoughts, lays down two townreads on consensus-townread players. You ask people to sheep you on Sloonei, and they agree immediately, in a way that makes it clear it's "not their fault" if Sloonei flips green. Follows by straight-up giving advice to a mafia role on optimal play. I see this as hostile 3P trying to help the mafia coordinate by giving advice to the Obliterator.
You are being far too serious, and reading far too much into my posts. I'm just chatting here, not coordinating doomsday, and why would I, as a third-party, want to help the mafia? And how does what I said even help the mafia?
It's not advice, it's awareness, literally responding to nutella's concern that wolf-hunting will be difficult due to anonymity.
You're literally giving the Obliterator advice on how to play, which is to your win condition if you're an anti-town 3P. I have listed other reasons for scumreading you too.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:36 pm
I guess will actually read the thread now. I have 5 hours before I need to DM.
this is my first time playing with like 90% of you please do me a favor and tell me about yourselves. describe yourself as what type of reptile you would be if you were a reptile and I will know everything I need to know, thanks in advance
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:36 pm
I guess will actually read the thread now. I have 5 hours before I need to DM.
this is my first time playing with like 90% of you please do me a favor and tell me about yourselves. describe yourself as what type of reptile you would be if you were a reptile and I will know everything I need to know, thanks in advance
I'd be a snake because they're long and cute
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:49 am
it is not easy for me to differentiate between opportunistic scum and scumsiding town when the reasons given to scumread me are:
-i dont like u
-ur scum lol
-wtf ur scummy
-woah, what a scummy post
-u arent doing this thing i want u to be doing
-i dont like that ur doing this thing
all the members of the town who are scumreading me definitely seem to have this game under control and do appear to be on top of things
truly, town has this game in the bag with such a reliable and sharp-witted town team. i will definitely be taking notes from some of the town players scureading me, so that i can improve myself in future games, by learning from them
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:40 am
The only notable "solving" I've done publicly has managed to kill someone who had the same power role and alignment as me.
If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
Town Wins (on TS) Mafia Wins (on TS)
None lol Other/3P Wins (on TS)
None lol Hosted Games (on TS) Neat Quote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:54 pm
Competition is only impressive when it is kind.
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:43 pm
Grand Scheme is literally open wolfing in front of everyone's faces.
i dont see it
Says they want to see the tutuu conflict firsthand, but no followup or evidence they actually went back and read it. Is asked for thoughts, lays down two townreads on consensus-townread players. You ask people to sheep you on Sloonei, and they agree immediately, in a way that makes it clear it's "not their fault" if Sloonei flips green. Follows by straight-up giving advice to a mafia role on optimal play. I see this as hostile 3P trying to help the mafia coordinate by giving advice to the Obliterator.
You are being far too serious, and reading far too much into my posts. I'm just chatting here, not coordinating doomsday, and why would I, as a third-party, want to help the mafia? And how does what I said even help the mafia?
It's not advice, it's awareness, literally responding to nutella's concern that wolf-hunting will be difficult due to anonymity.
You're literally giving the Obliterator advice on how to play, which is to your win condition if you're an anti-town 3P. I have listed other reasons for scumreading you too.
If you need any other glaringly obvious common sense advice, I guess you know who to come to.
BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:54 amRatatouille (Made I believe their name is). I liked their play on the last couple of pages. Provided a couple quick reads and seemed fluent with their conversation/posting.
You made it fuzzy on PURPOSE!
