Since then I have had nothing but town games where people repeatedly scumread me because they don't like they way I talk.
Okay, so you randed scum recently, so it isn't like you are years out of practice. That is good to know. I know when we played on MafC, you said you had a huge randtown streak. How did you like being scum? I didn't look closely as the ISO, but did you enjoy it, or do you prefer playing town?
It was fun. More fun than town because I randed what 36 consecutive town rands in a row. Overall I would enjoy town more if I had proper distribution of rands which I don't.
The thing that I hate about being town is that there is little I can do about my teammates playing against win condition. If I am wolf I can manipulate all I want. If I am town I am repeatedly telling the truth but if it's not well received there is little for me to do. Sometimes you just get brick walls placed against you and you're stuck. Alison talks about how she manipulates as town too but I don't want to do it, trying to make good reads is hard enough as it is, I don't wish to spend the energy to manipulate my fellow members of the town as town. They should do their job better. If my reads are wrong then I haven't done my job good enough. That's my perception of Mafia (the game).
Like okay hypothetically tutuu decides to pretend to be dwight for fun for a bit, as a wolf maybe, picks up suspicion, decides to roll with the whole thing.
Since then I have had nothing but town games where people repeatedly scumread me because they don't like they way I talk.
Okay, so you randed scum recently, so it isn't like you are years out of practice. That is good to know. I know when we played on MafC, you said you had a huge randtown streak. How did you like being scum? I didn't look closely as the ISO, but did you enjoy it, or do you prefer playing town?
It was fun. More fun than town because I randed what 36 consecutive town rands in a row. Overall I would enjoy town more if I had proper distribution of rands which I don't.
The thing that I hate about being town is that there is little I can do about my teammates playing against win condition. If I am wolf I can manipulate all I want. If I am town I am repeatedly telling the truth but if it's not well received there is little for me to do. Sometimes you just get brick walls placed against you and you're stuck. Alison talks about how she manipulates as town too but I don't want to do it, trying to make good reads is hard enough as it is, I don't wish to spend the energy to manipulate my fellow members of the town as town. They should do their job better. If my reads are wrong then I haven't done my job good enough. That's my perception of Mafia (the game).
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:23 am
ehhhh, it's hard to say conclusively from our pov that it's a lie
No, it is not. Simply open the first and second page of the thread and skim my posts in them...
This I don't buy. Our early D0 interactions were anything but serious. You called me town, I said "I'm always town" You called me a liar in a silly way, we went into the Office thing, which is silly. All of that is silly and non-serious. Epi accused us of being teamed during our Office thing, and your posts after that seem much more serious (starting with the one asking about Epi's strength as mafia).
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:30 am
Like okay hypothetically tutuu decides to pretend to be dwight for fun for a bit, as a wolf maybe, picks up suspicion, decides to roll with the whole thing.
Yea this is objectively a good read imo. Even if I think Tony is mafia, people should listen to this.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:23 am
ehhhh, it's hard to say conclusively from our pov that it's a lie
No, it is not. Simply open the first and second page of the thread and skim my posts in them...
This I don't buy. Our early D0 interactions were anything but serious. You called me town, I said "I'm always town" You called me a liar in a silly way, we went into the Office thing, which is silly. All of that is silly and non-serious. Epi accused us of being teamed during our Office thing, and your posts after that seem much more serious (starting with the one asking about Epi's strength as mafia).
Dude Dwight isn't always a clown. He switches between the two.
This whole thing is ridiculous.
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From this moment on I will ignore any and all posts that talk about "tutuu's tonal shit" and I urge everyone else to please move on. Stop repeating these words, please. Waste of time, waste of energy. Find the wolves. I'm clearly not a wolf.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:55 pm
Are there any arguments that Tutuu is town? If so, I'd like to hear.
My best one atm:
'Why would Tutuu see her wolf card and decide now's the time to noticeably switch up her in-game personality/playstyle, seeing as she should reasonably expect it would attract unwanted attention?'
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:30 am
Like okay hypothetically tutuu decides to pretend to be dwight for fun for a bit, as a wolf maybe, picks up suspicion, decides to roll with the whole thing.
Yea this is objectively a good read imo. Even if I think Tony is mafia, people should listen to this.
How is this different from the oft-repeated but now-forbidden accusation?
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:28 pm
ok I read through tutuu's ISO and have a question about the votes for her - is the main reason for the votes that she has tonally shifted in this game from her tone in other games and on discord? Someone, I can't remember who, said that it doesn't really make good sense to open your role card, see you've drawn mafia and made a decision to shift your tone in this game. I tend to agree with that. I haven't ISO'd her voters so maybe I'll find some additional reasons there but feel free to talk to me here about the additional evidence.
Also, I'm not going to do many ISO's tonight because I process much better in the morning and I want to watch the Cleveland v. Pittsburg game. For those who don't know me, I tend to play early in the day and not as much as night.
Made wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:35 pm
So I iso'd Tutuu and half way through I caught myself reading all of her post in the voice of Mojo jojo.
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:28 pm
ok I read through tutuu's ISO and have a question about the votes for her - is the main reason for the votes that she has tonally shifted in this game from her tone in other games and on discord? Someone, I can't remember who, said that it doesn't really make good sense to open your role card, see you've drawn mafia and made a decision to shift your tone in this game. I tend to agree with that. I haven't ISO'd her voters so maybe I'll find some additional reasons there but feel free to talk to me here about the additional evidence.
Also, I'm not going to do many ISO's tonight because I process much better in the morning and I want to watch the Cleveland v. Pittsburg game. For those who don't know me, I tend to play early in the day and not as much as night.
Made wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:35 pm
So I iso'd Tutuu and half way through I caught myself reading all of her post in the voice of Mojo jojo.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:03 pm
I'm going back on Made. Call it a gut read. It's kind of the light tone that seems a bit put on coupled with being late to the game. It reminds me of Radish that one time he was scum forever ago. And me and Radish is the same person, and me and Made might be as well.
[VOTE:
Made] aubergine
But also, talk to me @Made And talk to Tutu, cause Tutu wants to talk to you.
I can assure you I am neither dyslexicon nor mafia. I would even go far enough to say I was MADE to be town
(i've surprisingly never MADE ( ) that pun before) anywhoozies, hi friend. hru?
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:28 pm
ok I read through tutuu's ISO and have a question about the votes for her - is the main reason for the votes that she has tonally shifted in this game from her tone in other games and on discord? Someone, I can't remember who, said that it doesn't really make good sense to open your role card, see you've drawn mafia and made a decision to shift your tone in this game. I tend to agree with that. I haven't ISO'd her voters so maybe I'll find some additional reasons there but feel free to talk to me here about the additional evidence.
Also, I'm not going to do many ISO's tonight because I process much better in the morning and I want to watch the Cleveland v. Pittsburg game. For those who don't know me, I tend to play early in the day and not as much as night.
Made wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:35 pm
So I iso'd Tutuu and half way through I caught myself reading all of her post in the voice of Mojo jojo.
In of itself that's not alignment indicative, but like in combo with her 180 tone shift from Shadows it's sus
2 mafia down, looking for the last one now.
Can we talk about these two posts? Why did Made and juliets both chime in after long absences and iso tutuu??
Juliets just joined the game tonight how long could her absence have been
All of eternity perhaps.
I guess what I mean is that they both were quite behind on the thread, but they each iso'd tutuu in the process of their catch up. It's a coincidence that I just now recalled.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:30 am
Like okay hypothetically tutuu decides to pretend to be dwight for fun for a bit, as a wolf maybe, picks up suspicion, decides to roll with the whole thing.
Yea this is objectively a good read imo. Even if I think Tony is mafia, people should listen to this.
How is this different from the oft-repeated but now-forbidden accusation?
its a good read to make coming from the pov of someone who would assume i wouldnt purposely do a scummy thing as wolf to get townread. its a good assumption that is accurate from my exprience
u have seen me purposely do scummy thing as wolf to get townread (i dont know if u have properly parsed everything i did in that game, but i did multiple such things) but its a good read to be made and ppl should townread me for it coz they dont know that i would do that as wolf (which i am capable of)
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:03 pm
I'm going back on Made. Call it a gut read. It's kind of the light tone that seems a bit put on coupled with being late to the game. It reminds me of Radish that one time he was scum forever ago. And me and Radish is the same person, and me and Made might be as well.
[VOTE:
Made] aubergine
But also, talk to me @Made And talk to Tutu, cause Tutu wants to talk to you.
I can assure you I am neither dyslexicon nor mafia. I would even go far enough to say I was MADE to be town
(i've surprisingly never MADE ( ) that pun before) anywhoozies, hi friend. hru?
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:50 am
Maybe tutuu was the leading wagon at the time, I wasn't paying attention to the poll. But that is one long iso to read.
she had most votes when i came to thread, and i'm trying a less reading-y play style this game
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:28 pm
ok I read through tutuu's ISO and have a question about the votes for her - is the main reason for the votes that she has tonally shifted in this game from her tone in other games and on discord? Someone, I can't remember who, said that it doesn't really make good sense to open your role card, see you've drawn mafia and made a decision to shift your tone in this game. I tend to agree with that. I haven't ISO'd her voters so maybe I'll find some additional reasons there but feel free to talk to me here about the additional evidence.
Also, I'm not going to do many ISO's tonight because I process much better in the morning and I want to watch the Cleveland v. Pittsburg game. For those who don't know me, I tend to play early in the day and not as much as night.
Made wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:35 pm
So I iso'd Tutuu and half way through I caught myself reading all of her post in the voice of Mojo jojo.
In of itself that's not alignment indicative, but like in combo with her 180 tone shift from Shadows it's sus
2 mafia down, looking for the last one now.
Can we talk about these two posts? Why did Made and juliets both chime in after long absences and iso tutuu??
Juliets just joined the game tonight how long could her absence have been
All of eternity perhaps.
I guess what I mean is that they both were quite behind on the thread, but they each iso'd tutuu in the process of their catch up. It's a coincidence that I just now recalled.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:03 pm
I'm going back on Made. Call it a gut read. It's kind of the light tone that seems a bit put on coupled with being late to the game. It reminds me of Radish that one time he was scum forever ago. And me and Radish is the same person, and me and Made might be as well.
[VOTE:
Made] aubergine
But also, talk to me @Made And talk to Tutu, cause Tutu wants to talk to you.
I can assure you I am neither dyslexicon nor mafia. I would even go far enough to say I was MADE to be town
(i've surprisingly never MADE ( ) that pun before) anywhoozies, hi friend. hru?
Ugh, I want to vote for you now because that was so very bad.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:30 am
Like okay hypothetically tutuu decides to pretend to be dwight for fun for a bit, as a wolf maybe, picks up suspicion, decides to roll with the whole thing.
Yea this is objectively a good read imo. Even if I think Tony is mafia, people should listen to this.
How is this different from the oft-repeated but now-forbidden accusation?
its a good read to make coming from the pov of someone who would assume i wouldnt purposely do a scummy thing as wolf to get townread. its a good assumption that is accurate from my exprience
u have seen me purposely do scummy thing as wolf to get townread (i dont know if u have properly parsed everything i did in that game, but i did multiple such things) but its a good read to be made and ppl should townread me for it coz they dont know that i would do that as wolf (which i am capable of)
I only remember one part of that game... and it ain't something that I catalogued as "tutuu meta scum behaviour".
In of itself that's not alignment indicative, but like in combo with her 180 tone shift from Shadows it's sus
2 mafia down, looking for the last one now.
"180 tonal shift from Shadow" is a blatant lie from Made.
I was town in that game and I was scumread for the exact same reasons I am being scumread here - "Tutuu is talking differently, she must be mafia". Because in that game I talked like how I talk this game.
Made was in that game, and he is using the wrong argument to wrongly scumread me.
If he is not mafia he is basically playing like a honorary mafia.
u said u were zany that game, and you also said that you rarely got voted for your zany play style early on. I wouldn't call ur play this game zany, it's far more calculated than last game. I don't vibe with that
tutuu, your last post trended you downward again, I hate it. It reads like doublespeak that I don't fully understand, and I don't really want to talk about it because it would cross into forbidden territory, so I'm going to bed.
I have class tomorrow until 4pm, two hours before the yeet. 1/2 hour drive home, family, dinner, groceries... I'll make it a point to get in here for a final vote decision. I hope. I'll likely be reading up and catching up on breaks, but my posting will be minimal.
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:09 pm
Question. What kind of bear is best.
That's a ridiculus question.
False. Black bear.
Well, that's debatable. There are basically two schools of thought...
Fact.
Bears eat beets.
Bears.
Beets.
Battlestar Galactica.
The rest of it is fine, it's just that one aggressive post mixed in that looks kinda forced. I agree with the scummate interaction theory proposed by Epignosis.
When's the last time you played with tutuu and what was ur alignment? imo the aggression is consistent, the methodology used to get there is not
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:57 am
Ok Epignosis, talk radish to me.
I have no reason to believe MR is a civilian.
(Just wrote "MR" and thought "Mister Rearranger" Blast from the past)
Radishes' time in the thread has been devoid of usefulness. Not one suspect. I have no means of determining if he is good or bad. Yet he's been here. With 24 posts I should have some sense that you care enough to find mafia. I have none. The field of radishes is barren. Perhaps it is in dire need of fertilization.
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:01 am
tutuu, your last post trended you downward again, I hate it. It reads like doublespeak that I don't fully understand, and I don't really want to talk about it because it would cross into forbidden territory
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:09 pm
Question. What kind of bear is best.
That's a ridiculus question.
False. Black bear.
Well, that's debatable. There are basically two schools of thought...
Fact.
Bears eat beets.
Bears.
Beets.
Battlestar Galactica.
The rest of it is fine, it's just that one aggressive post mixed in that looks kinda forced. I agree with the scummate interaction theory proposed by Epignosis.
When's the last time you played with tutuu and what was ur alignment? imo the aggression is consistent, the methodology used to get there is not
We just finished 3 games together. I was scum in each one, she was town in two and my teammate in the other. She was aggressive in all of them. My point was that she called sean's post a lie (and many variations thereof), then her next few posts were the complete opposite.
Part of the reason I found it suspicious is that I didn't think tutuu and sean had ever played together before. So having zero familiarity with each other, I had trouble seeing that interaction coming about naturally. But it came to light recently that they had played a game together before, so I've backed off this suspicion a little.
Fiddler on the Roof
) that pun before) anywhoozies, hi friend. hru?