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[nutella]

Dk maybe too

[nutella]

Re:frozen

[JaggedJimmyJay]

also jagged, i was a bit confused about how you felt that DOOM's reaction to my claim was "outing" - would you mind expanding on that? or did you just mean that me being confirmed town made DOOM a much more likely scum?

I exaggerated my confidence for dramatic effect, but Omega seemed to be aware of what was happening in the game and struggling to find something to say. So it'd be what the kids call "frozen"

[Esooa]

I change my mind tutuu wasn't definitely shot I think we should look more into Tutuu today

[staypositivefriend]

Dk maybe too

have either DK or alison posted yet today? not sure i would perceive them as "frozen" when they could also just be AFK

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Good mornin sunshines whats cookin

Someone tried to shoot you probably

Dude i just woke up and i dreamt someone was trying to mug me and stab me and i ran away. Is that just fate? Im telling u man my dreams are prophetic

Quick go back to sleep and tell us who the mafia are when you wake up

[nutella]

Good mornin sunshines whats cookin

Someone tried to shoot you probably

Dude i just woke up and i dreamt someone was trying to mug me and stab me and i ran away. Is that just fate? Im telling u man my dreams are prophetic

scum reading this post but eeeeeee eiigneaoirghjaeo;gjharwelio

lol

[JaggedJimmyJay]

something worth noting is that the scum are almost certainly feeling blindsided right now

coming into today, made, michelle, and myself were all viable chop options from the mafias perspective. i would bet that the mafia were banking on at least one of those three being chopped within the next two days

and within a few hours of the day starting, the scum have suddenly lost three very valuable consensus POE chops. this is going to make the scum scramble and force themselves into positions that they might not otherwise have

Yeah

Legit think Alison is frozen

agreed

[nutella]

Dk maybe too

have either DK or alison posted yet today? not sure i would perceive them as "frozen" when they could also just be AFK

Dk posted right at sod before the claims

Alison not at all

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

something worth noting is that the scum are almost certainly feeling blindsided right now

coming into today, made, michelle, and myself were all viable chop options from the mafias perspective. i would bet that the mafia were banking on at least one of those three being chopped within the next two days

and within a few hours of the day starting, the scum have suddenly lost three very valuable consensus POE chops. this is going to make the scum scramble and force themselves into positions that they might not otherwise have

Yeah

Legit think Alison is frozen

I made the joke but I don’t think alison has ever been frozen in her life

[staypositivefriend]

i'm confused about the claim that alison is "frozen" when she hasn't posted. if she hasn't posted isn't it possible that's asleep, or distracted, or etc?

i'm far from opposed to considering an alison scum!world, but that seems like a leap

[nutella]

something worth noting is that the scum are almost certainly feeling blindsided right now

coming into today, made, michelle, and myself were all viable chop options from the mafias perspective. i would bet that the mafia were banking on at least one of those three being chopped within the next two days

and within a few hours of the day starting, the scum have suddenly lost three very valuable consensus POE chops. this is going to make the scum scramble and force themselves into positions that they might not otherwise have

Yeah

Legit think Alison is frozen

I made the joke but I don’t think alison has ever been frozen in her life

Well she's in Canada now so first time for everything

[tutuu]

I am unbakable, unkillable, immune to poison dayvig arson and even unmodkillable. I have traveled through every plane in the multiverse ever since my spark ignited and all of my fights ended with overwhelming victory and crushing defeat for the wolves

[JaggedJimmyJay]

i'm confused about the claim that alison is "frozen" when she hasn't posted. if she hasn't posted isn't it possible that's asleep, or distracted, or etc?

i'm far from opposed to considering an alison scum!world, but that seems like a leap

sure could be, but I render the accusation anyway

[nutella]

I am unbakable, unkillable, immune to poison dayvig arson and even unmodkillable. I have traveled through every plane in the multiverse ever since my spark ignited and all of my fights ended with overwhelming victory and crushing defeat for the wolves

Vote Alison baybeeeeee!!!

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Dk maybe too

Has he posted this late this game at all

I don’t remember any past like 10-11pm est but I might be wrong

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

i'm confused about the claim that alison is "frozen" when she hasn't posted. if she hasn't posted isn't it possible that's asleep, or distracted, or etc?

i'm far from opposed to considering an alison scum!world, but that seems like a leap

She opened the thread at some point idk how long she was in it tho

[tutuu]

Let me read first honey

I really dont want to though. Can i claim that i forgot to read overnight. I swear these symbols dont make sense to me man. Someone pls send me a vocaroo of a recap

[Esooa]

Dk maybe too

Has he posted this late this game at all

I don’t remember any past like 10-11pm est but I might be wrong

they/them

[JaggedJimmyJay]

DK was here briefly at day open. They said "thanks for the save doc" and then tunneled nutella some more.

So not much

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Dk maybe too

Has he posted this late this game at all

I don’t remember any past like 10-11pm est but I might be wrong

they/them

Oh fuck really? My bad!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

oh you meant this late like the time of day

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

oh you meant this late like the time of day

Yeah lol

[Made]

in light of me, made, michelle, and ellie all being town, it's obvious that the scum have been manipulating this game and pulling it into a certain narrative. i felt consistently throughout yesterday that something was "weird" about this game - and it's obvious now that the thing i found so weird was the fact that the scum was bruteforcing the POE into a specific direction

in my opinion, a reveal like this should make every town player here start their reads over from scratch & use that information to determine who's been pushing the game into a direction that's advantageous for scum

Or town have been hard pushing town

Either way I’m not starting from scratch lol

okay, i'm just gonna brain dumping and see if we can build it into anything that makes sense
two scenaros:
Situation . Mafia has been running train on thread: JJJ,nutella, alison
Situation . Mafia has just been going with that flow: tutuu, nanook, grogu, doom

i'm starting to have real doubt about it being nutella wolf because:
1. that means they didn't give nutella the kill day one, which means they have probably an even townier person to give the kill (or they vig'd night one. Is there reason not to vig n1?)
2. Mac, Nanook, JJJ, LC, Tutuu, and Alison have all consistently ruled her out till this point. she deserves the win if this is the case tbh

in Situation the confusion we've felt has come from dissenting voice that just didn't make sense. Alison is good at logicing, if she's town, hopefully there's enough here for her to win it for us. if she's not town, then boom, got one. basically, @Alison solve the game or we're baking you (if ur not too busy, thx )

Doom has also been saying she has felt super confused this game, so that's not a green check but a point to weigh in her. Especially if we're in Situation and not Situation

I feel like confusion vibes more with a Situation but, someone made the point that this game maybe the kind of game that needs to be supported by analysis, and not just vibes. so again, @Alison , u got this!!! unless you don't in which case

[staypositivefriend]

alison, DOOM, koba, esooa, grogu, jagged, nanook, nutella, tutuu

there are almost certainly three scum in that pool.

this is not new information - but it helps me visualize my perspective if i lay the names out like that

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Idk I don’t think “frozen cause they aren’t in thread” reads are that reliable usually, too many variables

More interesting to me is how people react, I agree with jay actually that doom had a weird/off kilter reaction, I wouldn’t go as far as saying outing but it definitely was uh

Not a matching vibe

[Esooa]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME gj ur obv!towning today btw

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

alison, DOOM, koba, esooa, grogu, jagged, nanook, nutella, tutuu

there are almost certainly three scum in that pool.

this is not new information - but it helps me visualize my perspective if i lay the names out like that

You only need to remove three

[staypositivefriend]

@esooa -

coming into today, you seemed especially certain that i was mafia

has learning that i'm town recontextualized your understanding of the game? has it made you consider a world where you could have been pocketed by someone pushing the same agenda?

it seems your focus is on tutuu, and that's a good avenue to explore today, but i'm especially curious about your thoughts in players like nutella/jagged/alison

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME gj ur obv!towning today btw

I’ve been obvious the whole time tbh

[nutella]

Idk I don’t think “frozen cause they aren’t in thread” reads are that reliable usually, too many variables

More interesting to me is how people react, I agree with jay actually that doom had a weird/off kilter reaction, I wouldn’t go as far as saying outing but it definitely was uh

Not a matching vibe

Yeah

Doom has trended down quite a bit

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I agree with nutella in that, at least right this moment, I struggle to conceptualize the game without Alison being mafia. She serves as a ringleader of sorts and allows town to cannibalize, all while ushering the bad consensus onward from a place of relative detachment. She could be carrying lower-volume players or teamed with a goat, but I really doubt the team is something like [Grogu, Omega, DK] or something similarly easy-world.

Doesn't mean she's evil and I'll always keep listening blah blah, but that's where I'm at.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME gj ur obv!towning today btw

agree, even if saying it makes me a scaredy butt

[Made]

alison, DOOM, koba, esooa, grogu, jagged, nanook, nutella, tutuu

there are almost certainly three scum in that pool.

this is not new information - but it helps me visualize my perspective if i lay the names out like that

in the world where koba is mafia, mafia realized I was probably a powerrole (they soft claimed right before EOD).
This is a point against tutuu as it would mean mafia figured i was mafia and didn't try to kill me, and instead tried to kill tutuu(???)

so therefore koba & tutuu are probably not mafia together

I think it's also fair to expect a sloppy mafia at this point as if michelle, me, spf were all not cleared, it would not hard to get any of us lynched.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Three mech clears and I’m still the most confirmed, wild

[Esooa]

@esooa -

coming into today, you seemed especially certain that i was mafia

has learning that i'm town recontextualized your understanding of the game? has it made you consider a world where you could have been pocketed by someone pushing the same agenda?

it seems your focus is on tutuu, and that's a good avenue to explore today, but i'm especially curious about your thoughts in players like nutella/jagged/alison

it makes me scum read jjj way more. I still am uncertain on the possibility of Nutella being scum, I just don't see it in her demeanor and such, but she's definitely deserving of a re-read atp. I already scum read Alison a lot

[DaughterOfOmega]

Anything Jay says or pushes, consider me on the oppo side of.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Whatever one thinks of the claiming wisdom, that Made and SPF are the claims is extremely fortuitous. I think our win chance shot way up just because it was those two.

[DaughterOfOmega]

alison, DOOM, koba, esooa, grogu, jagged, nanook, nutella, tutuu

there are almost certainly three scum in that pool.

this is not new information - but it helps me visualize my perspective if i lay the names out like that

in the world where koba is mafia, mafia realized I was probably a powerrole (they soft claimed right before EOD).
This is a point against tutuu as it would mean mafia figured i was mafia and didn't try to kill me, and instead tried to kill tutuu(???)

so therefore koba & tutuu are probably not mafia together

I think it's also fair to expect a sloppy mafia at this point as if michelle, me, spf were all not cleared, it would not hard to get any of us lynched.

mafia figured I was mafia

Wat now

[Made]

Idk I don’t think “frozen cause they aren’t in thread” reads are that reliable usually, too many variables

More interesting to me is how people react, I agree with jay actually that doom had a weird/off kilter reaction, I wouldn’t go as far as saying outing but it definitely was uh

Not a matching vibe

we can no longer rely on vibes. this is now officially a
~ n o V I B E z o n e ~
I'm sure this is as much a disappointment to y'all as it is to me

if matching vibes were reliable, we wouldn't be so far off course

[Esooa]

btw Grogu is turbo scummy now, cause one thing I liked about him was he had no care who died in "wifom valley," and that's suddenly become not so much a non-agenda where he doesn't care to push away from the mafia in there, but an extremely strong agenda, where he doesn't give a fuck cause everyone being scum read is town

[staypositivefriend]

in light of me, made, michelle, and ellie all being town, it's obvious that the scum have been manipulating this game and pulling it into a certain narrative. i felt consistently throughout yesterday that something was "weird" about this game - and it's obvious now that the thing i found so weird was the fact that the scum was bruteforcing the POE into a specific direction

in my opinion, a reveal like this should make every town player here start their reads over from scratch & use that information to determine who's been pushing the game into a direction that's advantageous for scum

Or town have been hard pushing town

Either way I’m not starting from scratch lol

okay, i'm just gonna brain dumping and see if we can build it into anything that makes sense
two scenaros:
Situation . Mafia has been running train on thread: JJJ,nutella, alison
Situation . Mafia has just been going with that flow: tutuu, nanook, grogu, doom

i'm starting to have real doubt about it being nutella wolf because:
1. that means they didn't give nutella the kill day one, which means they have probably an even townier person to give the kill (or they vig'd night one. Is there reason not to vig n1?)
2. Mac, Nanook, JJJ, LC, Tutuu, and Alison have all consistently ruled her out till this point. she deserves the win if this is the case tbh

in Situation the confusion we've felt has come from dissenting voice that just didn't make sense. Alison is good at logicing, if she's town, hopefully there's enough here for her to win it for us. if she's not town, then boom, got one. basically, @Alison solve the game or we're baking you (if ur not too busy, thx )

Doom has also been saying she has felt super confused this game, so that's not a green check but a point to weigh in her. Especially if we're in Situation and not Situation

I feel like confusion vibes more with a Situation but, someone made the point that this game maybe the kind of game that needs to be supported by analysis, and not just vibes. so again, @Alison , u got this!!! unless you don't in which case

i am vibing with this post a lot, my friend. i love it

gun to head, i feel that situation is more likely than situation . we know that the town had a consensus POE that has been, more or less, 100% incorrect. it's possible for the town to have self-destructed and fallen into a bad consensus position, but occam's razor would tell us that the more likely situation is that there have been multiple active scum steering the game into a bad direction.

which means that, gth, the "go with the flow" world contains two scum at most, but my gut would tell me that it only has one.

the point about nutella is a good one, and i hadn't considered that at all. i would very much like to re-assess nutella today - she's been my strongest townread for the entirety of this game, and i would like to either catch her or be able to confidently lock her in as a "legacy" name that i can remove from my POE

since we only need to remove 3 names from that pool of nine, perhaps our time would be better spent today solidifying town names that we can feel confident about, as opposed to searching for scum teams

[Made]

alison, DOOM, koba, esooa, grogu, jagged, nanook, nutella, tutuu

there are almost certainly three scum in that pool.

this is not new information - but it helps me visualize my perspective if i lay the names out like that

in the world where koba is mafia, mafia realized I was probably a powerrole (they soft claimed right before EOD).
This is a point against tutuu as it would mean mafia figured i was a power role and didn't try to kill me, and instead tried to kill tutuu(???)

so therefore koba & tutuu are probably not mafia together

I think it's also fair to expect a sloppy mafia at this point as if michelle, me, spf were all not cleared, it would not hard to get any of us lynched.

mafia figured I was mafia

Wat now

fixed, thank you

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Idk I don’t think “frozen cause they aren’t in thread” reads are that reliable usually, too many variables

More interesting to me is how people react, I agree with jay actually that doom had a weird/off kilter reaction, I wouldn’t go as far as saying outing but it definitely was uh

Not a matching vibe

we can no longer rely on vibes. this is now officially a
~ n o V I B E z o n e ~
I'm sure this is as much a disappointment to y'all as it is to me

if matching vibes were reliable, we wouldn't be so far off course

Fort kickass doesn’t recognize your authority, acab, etc etc

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Anything Jay says or pushes, consider me on the oppo side of.

Nobody is morally obligated to town read me or to agree with me, but this mentality makes no sense

[Esooa]

interesting thing to note is if JJJ is scum, his read on Tutuu in particular was notable. Why hard town read Tutuu, saying that everyone should sheep at least just this one read off him, if he ever dies. And why give so few possible-partners to Tutuu

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

in light of me, made, michelle, and ellie all being town, it's obvious that the scum have been manipulating this game and pulling it into a certain narrative. i felt consistently throughout yesterday that something was "weird" about this game - and it's obvious now that the thing i found so weird was the fact that the scum was bruteforcing the POE into a specific direction

in my opinion, a reveal like this should make every town player here start their reads over from scratch & use that information to determine who's been pushing the game into a direction that's advantageous for scum

Or town have been hard pushing town

Either way I’m not starting from scratch lol

okay, i'm just gonna brain dumping and see if we can build it into anything that makes sense
two scenaros:
Situation . Mafia has been running train on thread: JJJ,nutella, alison
Situation . Mafia has just been going with that flow: tutuu, nanook, grogu, doom

i'm starting to have real doubt about it being nutella wolf because:
1. that means they didn't give nutella the kill day one, which means they have probably an even townier person to give the kill (or they vig'd night one. Is there reason not to vig n1?)
2. Mac, Nanook, JJJ, LC, Tutuu, and Alison have all consistently ruled her out till this point. she deserves the win if this is the case tbh

in Situation the confusion we've felt has come from dissenting voice that just didn't make sense. Alison is good at logicing, if she's town, hopefully there's enough here for her to win it for us. if she's not town, then boom, got one. basically, @Alison solve the game or we're baking you (if ur not too busy, thx )

Doom has also been saying she has felt super confused this game, so that's not a green check but a point to weigh in her. Especially if we're in Situation and not Situation

I feel like confusion vibes more with a Situation but, someone made the point that this game maybe the kind of game that needs to be supported by analysis, and not just vibes. so again, @Alison , u got this!!! unless you don't in which case

i am vibing with this post a lot, my friend. i love it

gun to head, i feel that situation is more likely than situation . we know that the town had a consensus POE that has been, more or less, 100% incorrect. it's possible for the town to have self-destructed and fallen into a bad consensus position, but occam's razor would tell us that the more likely situation is that there have been multiple active scum steering the game into a bad direction.

which means that, gth, the "go with the flow" world contains two scum at most, but my gut would tell me that it only has one.

the point about nutella is a good one, and i hadn't considered that at all. i would very much like to re-assess nutella today - she's been my strongest townread for the entirety of this game, and i would like to either catch her or be able to confidently lock her in as a "legacy" name that i can remove from my POE

since we only need to remove 3 names from that pool of nine, perhaps our time would be better spent today solidifying town names that we can feel confident about, as opposed to searching for scum teams

You have to remove four from nine. We have to get three mafia in five shots

[JaggedJimmyJay]

btw Grogu is turbo scummy now, cause one thing I liked about him was he had no care who died in "wifom valley," and that's suddenly become not so much a non-agenda where he doesn't care to push away from the mafia in there, but an extremely strong agenda, where he doesn't give a fuck cause everyone being scum read is town

valid

[staypositivefriend]

alison, DOOM, koba, esooa, grogu, jagged, nanook, nutella, tutuu

there are almost certainly three scum in that pool.

this is not new information - but it helps me visualize my perspective if i lay the names out like that

in the world where koba is mafia, mafia realized I was probably a powerrole (they soft claimed right before EOD).
This is a point against tutuu as it would mean mafia figured i was mafia and didn't try to kill me, and instead tried to kill tutuu(???)

so therefore koba & tutuu are probably not mafia together

I think it's also fair to expect a sloppy mafia at this point as if michelle, me, spf were all not cleared, it would not hard to get any of us lynched.

koba softed that they knew you were a power role? am i misunderstanding?

[staypositivefriend]

in light of me, made, michelle, and ellie all being town, it's obvious that the scum have been manipulating this game and pulling it into a certain narrative. i felt consistently throughout yesterday that something was "weird" about this game - and it's obvious now that the thing i found so weird was the fact that the scum was bruteforcing the POE into a specific direction

in my opinion, a reveal like this should make every town player here start their reads over from scratch & use that information to determine who's been pushing the game into a direction that's advantageous for scum

Or town have been hard pushing town

Either way I’m not starting from scratch lol

okay, i'm just gonna brain dumping and see if we can build it into anything that makes sense
two scenaros:
Situation . Mafia has been running train on thread: JJJ,nutella, alison
Situation . Mafia has just been going with that flow: tutuu, nanook, grogu, doom

i'm starting to have real doubt about it being nutella wolf because:
1. that means they didn't give nutella the kill day one, which means they have probably an even townier person to give the kill (or they vig'd night one. Is there reason not to vig n1?)
2. Mac, Nanook, JJJ, LC, Tutuu, and Alison have all consistently ruled her out till this point. she deserves the win if this is the case tbh

in Situation the confusion we've felt has come from dissenting voice that just didn't make sense. Alison is good at logicing, if she's town, hopefully there's enough here for her to win it for us. if she's not town, then boom, got one. basically, @Alison solve the game or we're baking you (if ur not too busy, thx )

Doom has also been saying she has felt super confused this game, so that's not a green check but a point to weigh in her. Especially if we're in Situation and not Situation

I feel like confusion vibes more with a Situation but, someone made the point that this game maybe the kind of game that needs to be supported by analysis, and not just vibes. so again, @Alison , u got this!!! unless you don't in which case

i am vibing with this post a lot, my friend. i love it

gun to head, i feel that situation is more likely than situation . we know that the town had a consensus POE that has been, more or less, 100% incorrect. it's possible for the town to have self-destructed and fallen into a bad consensus position, but occam's razor would tell us that the more likely situation is that there have been multiple active scum steering the game into a bad direction.

which means that, gth, the "go with the flow" world contains two scum at most, but my gut would tell me that it only has one.

the point about nutella is a good one, and i hadn't considered that at all. i would very much like to re-assess nutella today - she's been my strongest townread for the entirety of this game, and i would like to either catch her or be able to confidently lock her in as a "legacy" name that i can remove from my POE

since we only need to remove 3 names from that pool of nine, perhaps our time would be better spent today solidifying town names that we can feel confident about, as opposed to searching for scum teams

You have to remove four from nine. We have to get three mafia in five shots

oh. that's less fun