Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Hyena]

Thunal is mafia 98%.

You suspect me every game regardless of my alignment and it's getting a bit frustrating.

If this is true, I'd wager that you and Mac are W/V but which one is the W?

lol, this feels like a false dichotomy

Woah. Cat really formed a wagon.

Neat.

How is everyone?

I don't really believe Wilgy found it neat considering that he announced that he was voting for Thunal later, then voted for Falcon.

oh and i think sloonei is village as well

Why is this?

I don't like the feel of Wilgy casting doubt on Dya here, especially after Dya flipped town.

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It doesn't even look like Wilgy announced he was switching his vote to Falcon! That screams to me that he was trying to just add more votes to the counterwagon.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

tutuu swing at the ball

ooh spicy

@tutuu

Notice me nutpai

I have like a little bit of time to spend on this game. What should I care about the most according to you?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Thunal is mafia 98%.

You suspect me every game regardless of my alignment and it's getting a bit frustrating.

If this is true, I'd wager that you and Mac are W/V but which one is the W?

lol, this feels like a false dichotomy

Woah. Cat really formed a wagon.

Neat.

How is everyone?

I don't really believe Wilgy found it neat considering that he announced that he was voting for Thunal later, then voted for Falcon.

oh and i think sloonei is village as well

Why is this?

I don't like the feel of Wilgy casting doubt on Dya here, especially after Dya flipped town.

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It doesn't even look like Wilgy announced he was switching his vote to Falcon! That screams to me that he was trying to just add more votes to the counterwagon.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

this is weak

[nutella]

tutuu swing at the ball

ooh spicy

@tutuu

Notice me nutpai

I have like a little bit of time to spend on this game. What should I care about the most according to you?

having like any reads at all?

[Made]

My current shit list is Wilgy and Nanook. Anyone else I should have on it?

Do people still think Marmot is bad? I didn’t read anything there

[TonyStarkPrime]

syn is lock town, spicy opinion tutuu also town? I also wrote down "thrall town" and i have no idea who that was but they've been autocorrecte dout of a town read

[Hyena]

Thunal is mafia 98%.

You suspect me every game regardless of my alignment and it's getting a bit frustrating.

If this is true, I'd wager that you and Mac are W/V but which one is the W?

lol, this feels like a false dichotomy

Woah. Cat really formed a wagon.

Neat.

How is everyone?

I don't really believe Wilgy found it neat considering that he announced that he was voting for Thunal later, then voted for Falcon.

oh and i think sloonei is village as well

Why is this?

I don't like the feel of Wilgy casting doubt on Dya here, especially after Dya flipped town.

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It doesn't even look like Wilgy announced he was switching his vote to Falcon! That screams to me that he was trying to just add more votes to the counterwagon.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

this is weak

Fight me!

[TonyStarkPrime]

idk that falcon vote is amazingly bad

[TonyStarkPrime]

like just wow

[Hyena]

Actually, TSP can be scum, too, for calling my case on Wilgy weak.

[TonyStarkPrime]

but it feels like the scum team probably would have had most boats on bussing

[TonyStarkPrime]

Actually, TSP can be scum, too, for calling my case on Wilgy weak.

it is weak

[Dyslexicon]

having like any reads at all?

I do have that. But ok, I'll follow my own nose then. It's just that I have huge holes in what's going on at all here and I thought you could help me.

[Made]

tutuu you've never played with me before in a big game this is pretty much typical

Lies, Kyle is always supatown.

I don't understand this post, can you say it again pls?

Kyle's basically the no1 poster in every game I've seen him play. Keeping up levels of content on par with JJJ. His current play is very unlike him.

this is still kinda weird imo, Michelle. I see what he's saying, but to me, it sounds like he's saying he thinks Kyle is good because Kyle is posting large amount but normally he doesn't. I don't think that Dr. Wilgy believes his read as written. If he thinks kyle is town, that doesn't feel like a real reason.

more fuel for the wilgy roast

kyle is defending himself from an argument of not posting enough, Kyle says it's typical. Wilgy says no it isn't Kyle posts a ton all the time. Wilgy thinks Kyle is sus for it. How is this challenging for you?

I see where I slipped up
I don't think Wilgy's read of kyle's meta are right, then? Kyles a middle to low poster till late game, at least from what I've seen. Anyone disagree with me on that?

[TonyStarkPrime]

nice sloonei is voting for me again

[TonyStarkPrime]

@Sloonei stop it I'm clearly lock town

[Made]

I kinda wanna clear falcon based on how slow, but consistent the counter wagon on him was. like once cat hit, nothing really shook it

[Made]

@Timsup2nothin stop voting me

[Made]

Lies, Kyle is always supatown.

I don't understand this post, can you say it again pls?

Kyle's basically the no1 poster in every game I've seen him play. Keeping up levels of content on par with JJJ. His current play is very unlike him.

this is still kinda weird imo, Michelle. I see what he's saying, but to me, it sounds like he's saying he thinks Kyle is good because Kyle is posting large amount but normally he doesn't. I don't think that Dr. Wilgy believes his read as written. If he thinks kyle is town, that doesn't feel like a real reason.

kyle is defending himself from an argument of not posting enough, Kyle says it's typical. Wilgy says no it isn't Kyle posts a ton all the time. Wilgy thinks Kyle is sus for it. How is this challenging for you?

I see where I slipped up
I don't think Wilgy's read of kyle's meta are right, then? Kyles a middle to low poster till late game, at least from what I've seen. Anyone disagree with me on that?

more fuel for the wilgy roast
edit by way of double post. fucked up my quotes

[Dyslexicon]

@MacDougall Can you be my caretaker instead? I think Nut has shunned me.

[Timsup2nothin]

@Timsup2nothin stop voting me

Why?

[Hyena]

EoD1 Wagon Reads Revised (for my own note taking)

Change log:
- moved Long Con to townreads
- moved Wilgy to scumreads
- moved TSP to scumreads

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Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena

[Made]

@Timsup2nothin stop voting me

Why?

this is my redemption arch

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall Can you be my caretaker instead? I think Nut has shunned me.

why

[Timsup2nothin]

@Timsup2nothin stop voting me

Why?

this is my redemption arch

Perfect. I will watch. I have the best seat in the house.

Our story so far, from what I've seen, has been you mostly latching onto anything that looked even remotely possible as something that might go over instead of you...and then not really having that "this is a wolf" fire and pushing. I think if I were writing your redemption arc you would have a very serious scum case put together and you would drop it about six hours to EoD and then push like an innocent man possessed. You want it peaking right about the time people who have been on and off your wagon would be getting back on.

It also needs to be a wolf, because if it isn't then it is more like a plot twist of false hope than a redemption arc.

We will use the working title Bring Me the Head of Wolfy McScumpants!!!

Good luck!

[Hyena]

Cat's ISO with very surface level comments and a weak ass vote on Made is a no for me too actually.

Haven't looked into Falcon yet.

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Questionables:
Radish
112
Hyena

Nice people probably:
Made
Michelle
Martin

Town core goes mmmmmm

lol, what?

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Who should get what's coming?
Poll runs till Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


112
2
7%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, Kylemii
Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
1
3%
Voters: Hyena
Dyslexicon
1
3%
Voters: nutella
falcon45ca
2
7%
Voters: Marmot, MartinGG99
Hyena
0
No votes
Voters: None
JackofHearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
JustPlayingitcool
2
7%
Voters: MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Made
1
3%
Voters: Timsup2nothin
Marmot
1
3%
Voters: Master Radishes
MartinGG99
4
14%
Voters: tedxtr, 112, Justplayingitcool, tutuu
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
1
3%
Voters: Made
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
Syn
0
No votes
Voters: None
Thunal33
0
No votes
Voters: None
Timsup2nothin
1
3%
Voters: Syn
TonyStarkPrime
1
3%
Voters: Sloonei
TurnipHead
1
3%
Voters: Long Con
tutuu
1
3%
Voters: Michelle
No vote
1
3%
Voters: Alison
No elimination
1
3%
Voters: Jackofhearts2005
Subterranean Homesick Alien (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
8
28%
Voters: dunya, dyachei, cat, Hally, juliets, c4e5g3d5, JaggedJimmyJay, Epignosis
Total votes: 29

too early for me to play but VC is needed ig

[Made]

@Timsup2nothin stop voting me

Why?

this is my redemption arch

Perfect. I will watch. I have the best seat in the house.

Our story so far, from what I've seen, has been you mostly latching onto anything that looked even remotely possible as something that might go over instead of you...and then not really having that "this is a wolf" fire and pushing. I think if I were writing your redemption arc you would have a very serious scum case put together and you would drop it about six hours to EoD and then push like an innocent man possessed. You want it peaking right about the time people who have been on and off your wagon would be getting back on.

It also needs to be a wolf, because if it isn't then it is more like a plot twist of false hope than a redemption arc.

We will use the working title Bring Me the Head of Wolfy McScumpants!!!

Good luck!

i'm really thinking more of a "it's the friends we made along the way" kinda vibe, where i make friends with all of the people who want to vote me beside the bad ones.

I know i ask you this earlier, but ur not one of the bad ones right?

for me, It's not about latching on to something for the sake of voting somewhere. It's about exploring options. The only time exploring is a bad idea is if you have something to hide

[Hyena]

Cat's ISO with very surface level comments and a weak ass vote on Made is a no for me too actually.

Haven't looked into Falcon yet.

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Questionables:
Radish
112
Hyena

Nice people probably:
Made
Michelle
Martin

Town core goes mmmmmm

lol, what?

Oh wait, this was from Day 1, nvm.

[Michelle]

EoD1 Wagon Reads Revised (for my own note taking)

Change log:
- moved Long Con to townreads
- moved Wilgy to scumreads
- moved TSP to scumreads

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Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena

Cool
I had Marmot as v, can you give me details about your read?

[Made]

We haven't really thought about the Master and Marmot parts of the MA Militia recently. I guess I'll read Marmot next

[Syn]

made said they thought they were scumread by thread consensus. this does not appear to correspond to reality

Not sure I agree with you. The number of people who have voted for Made at some point and then wandered off onto what I could uncharitably call "fad wagons" without any real clear "okay not Made" statement is pretty large. I'm not gonna push on them, but I would not be surprised if at EoD a lot of those people just remember they never had a real good reason when they got off the Made wagon and get back on. I can't bet because I'm in the thread and can theoretically make things happen, but if I were in spec chat I'd be handicapping Made as most likely chop of the day.

i agree with your assessment I'm asking why this is

My theory...when Mac laid the case on Cat it was really on Cat+Made. Cat flipping red for the most part just nailed Made, and if town had a night one vig we probably wouldn't have this problem. But day two just launched with chopping Made as the very likely outcome.

I myself would have been more or less fine with piling on Made and just bailing for 48 hours, but we know that's not realistic, towns gonna town. So cases come, and cases go, and the wagons mount up okay, but there's no real enthusiasm behind them because even people who don't want to say it are kinda just waiting to chop Made at EoD.

I'm mostly watching the wagons come and go looking for people who are consistently hard pushing any fad of the moment no matter how silly it should be for them, because if Made does flip red those are the people to look at next.

town!tim never says the bolded

[Hyena]

YEET POOL:

KYLEMII
JACKOFHEARTS2005
FALCON45CA
MARTIN
NANOOK
DIZZY
MARMOT

imo

add long con

No. And take out Falcon.

[Syn]

@Syn read on Nanook?

sweet innocent baby always to be protected from evil dangerous wolf made

[Hyena]

EoD1 Wagon Reads Revised (for my own note taking)

Change log:
- moved Long Con to townreads
- moved Wilgy to scumreads
- moved TSP to scumreads

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Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena

Cool
I had Marmot as v, can you give me details about your read?

There aren't a lot of details. It's simply a matter of I think Marmot would have engaged me more, even if only in a joking way, if he were town. I can only recount one interaction I've had with him.

[Syn]

syn is lock town, spicy opinion tutuu also town? I also wrote down "thrall town" and i have no idea who that was but they've been autocorrecte dout of a town read

oh god please no

also wtf you said I was lock wolf earlier

[Made]

@Syn read on Nanook?

sweet innocent baby always to be protected from evil dangerous wolf made

Meet you half way on tim?

[Syn]

@Syn read on Nanook?

sweet innocent baby always to be protected from evil dangerous wolf made

Meet you half way on tim?

yeah let's go

ur still dying tho

[Syn]

41 pages left

can i finish tonight and not be right up against my deadline??? let's find out!!!

[DrWilgy]

EoD1 Vote Counts (for my own note taking)

Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena

There's at least one scum in LC, Wilgy, Radish, especially if Falcon flips town.
At least one scum in Nanook, Made, Tutuu, Ted, Mac.
Kyle might be scum for being on me EoD1 and sheeping Sloonei.
I put Jack as scum because I think Nute is town and because I'm betting that there's a scum. I'm reading Syn more town though, so Jack is scum by default.

Out of the first group I can't but think it's LC. Like... Would it be detracting if I asked for people to vote LC and if not LC then yeet me?

[DrWilgy]

So I return to Cat still being bork'd

A falcon rally happened and then there's Thunal slightly behind.

Voting Thunal. Lets see what happens.

I was going to do that vote before I read this post... so don't count my vote as reactionary to yours, or you will get false results.

Thank you LC. You had scum read me earlier and I had scum read you as well. How are you feeling about that now?

Ehhh, I don't like Wilgy's announcement that he's voting Thunal. I like LC's reaction though.
Moving Wilgy down to scum, moving LC up to town.

why not?

[Long Con]

EoD1 Vote Counts (for my own note taking)

Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena

Great colours, really nice-looking info!

tutuu swing at the ball

ooh spicy

@tutuu

Maybe swinging at the ball accepts recruitment to Secret Iron Man Team. But that's not baseball... unless TSP is Joe McGinnity!

syn is lock town, spicy opinion tutuu also town? I also wrote down "thrall town" and i have no idea who that was but they've been autocorrecte dout of a town read

Probably "thunal".

[Alison]

current power: ability theft

current pool: [TSP]

[Alison]

@Alison give me the stealing one

based on this. ping me if you have objections, or want to nominate more people for the pool

[Made]

I want to chop marmot as well

No one hopped onto Martin with us. That probably means something. I dunno what, but something.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Go forth, friend!

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Where are we going?

Marmot is town, wtf were y'all on this morning?

[Long Con]

EoD1 Vote Counts (for my own note taking)

Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena

There's at least one scum in LC, Wilgy, Radish, especially if Falcon flips town.
At least one scum in Nanook, Made, Tutuu, Ted, Mac.
Kyle might be scum for being on me EoD1 and sheeping Sloonei.
I put Jack as scum because I think Nute is town and because I'm betting that there's a scum. I'm reading Syn more town though, so Jack is scum by default.

Out of the first group I can't but think it's LC. Like... Would it be detracting if I asked for people to vote LC and if not LC then yeet me?

Maybe take me out to dinner first.

[Made]

@Syn read on Nanook?

sweet innocent baby always to be protected from evil dangerous wolf made

Meet you half way on tim?

yeah let's go

ur still dying tho

as will we all pal

[112]

[VOTE: dizzy] aubergine

[Made]

@Alison give me the stealing one

based on this. ping me if you have objections, or want to nominate more people for the pool

@Alison
take him out, add either Tutuu and Kyle. the people can fight over who is preferred

[Made]

@Thunal33

hi! really important question. Are you town?