Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[MacDougall]

im voting martin because im pretty sure mafia are voting in numbers here which makes him >rand mafia

one day you will all be as good as me

[Marmot]

this vote spread is fucking disgusting lol, can you mob just coalesce please

Mac has spoken, and is absolutely correct. And coming from me that's really saying something. This "game of champions" looks like something we would put on out in the hinterlands right now. Get off you dingy little vanity wagons and put some meat in your votes!!!

Wot's the difference right now?

[Alison]

since tsp and made can't decide I'm going to compromise and have all three in the pool

selected bargain: ability thief

pool: [tsp/kyle/tutuu]

if you have strong feelings you can break the tie by chiming in

can you just give it to me plz lol

if I give it to you and you get NKed we'll both be sad.

that said protectives exist so I'll add you to the pool.

[tsp/kyle/tutuu/mac]

[Dyslexicon]

Open questions that I'd greatly appreciate answers to, if anyone is up to speed:

- What is the case on Martin? I've only read his last few posts, but I felt they were towny.
- What happened with the red check on Nanook? Did it get retracted? Where did it come from?
- What was the deal with Hyena's claim?
- What's the deal with Alison's role?

Towny for me right now:
Thunal's slot, Nut, Mac, reluctantly 112 and Radish.

I'm going to vote Tutu, cause I saw she changed her read on me and I'm kind of mad about it. Also I just really want to vote her, I don't know why. I could vote Nanook too.

I don't know about Made. His interactions with Cat is weird, but I still don't get scum from his posts. I don't know how reliable my read on him is.

[VOTE: Tutu] aubergine

[Timsup2nothin]

since tsp and made can't decide I'm going to compromise and have all three in the pool

selected bargain: ability thief

pool: [tsp/kyle/tutuu]

if you have strong feelings you can break the tie by chiming in

TSP outta the pool.

[Dyslexicon]

im voting martin because im pretty sure mafia are voting in numbers here which makes him >rand mafia

one day you will all be as good as me

What do you mean by mafia is voting in numbers?

[MacDougall]

im voting martin because im pretty sure mafia are voting in numbers here which makes him >rand mafia

one day you will all be as good as me

What do you mean by mafia is voting in numbers?

the mafia are being smart and voting for a teammate while the spread is crazy and everything is about to coalesce, it's nice distancing ploy, none of the people voting martin will be there for much longer

[Alison]

[kyle/tutuu/mac]

[Dyslexicon]

the mafia are being smart and voting for a teammate while the spread is crazy and everything is about to coalesce, it's nice distancing ploy, none of the people voting martin will be there for much longer

So JPIC, Ted and Tutu are all mafia or something? Seems far out, but what do I know. But what is the case on Martin anyway?

[MacDougall]

the mafia are being smart and voting for a teammate while the spread is crazy and everything is about to coalesce, it's nice distancing ploy, none of the people voting martin will be there for much longer

So JPIC, Ted and Tutu are all mafia or something? Seems far out, but what do I know. But what is the case on Martin anyway?

2 of 3 of them by my calculation

[Dyslexicon]

Well, I definitely have more questions than answers. And I don't see many answers. If Nut could stop voting me and talk to me at some point, that would be great.

I guess Tutu/Nanook would be my top choices right now. Still limited understanding of this game. Convince me if I should have my vote some other place.

[nutella]

A lot of people have probably done the Cat ISO, but I did as well anyway. Here are my takes, if anyone cares:

- Thunal probably town, because Cat seemed to genuinely not understand the suspicion on her.
- Some good looks for 112 actually. First off, there was a post where Cat said "If you think I'm too easy of a wagon, you shouldn't be voting me in the first place", which did seem like a direct appeal. It's not quoting anyone, but from thread context it seems to be directed at 112. There's also one point where Cat likes my snap back post but forgets who it's directed at. I feel it's a bit too overly produced to pretend you forget a teammate's interaction, and I think Cat would remember it was 112 if they were teamed. (Rip, cause I didn't like 112 before lol).
- Radish also probably town, I think there was some buddying.
- Also vote and shade on Nutella which looks more of a forced scum read, so I don't think they are with Nut.

- I can see where Mac is coming from in regards to Made. The kind of RVS vote on Made, support of the wagon, but then later move the vote. There's also "Sounds more like low-effort than scum to me." (about Made) which is just confusing, cause I think Cat supported the wagon at that point? And the "Hi" interaction between the two. I guess the interaction could be awkward also just because Cat was scum. I've only played with Made once, and I read him scum pretty instinctively there (and was correct), and to be honest, I don't really here. He seemed way more people pleaser-y in that scum game, which he isn't here.
- There's some support of Tutu, but still Cat decides to ISO Tutu (but can't make it work or something, and doesn't return to it). This stands out to me, cause why spend time ISOing someone who you supposedly town read anyway? Could be a case of "I need to do an ISO of a teammate". Maybe that's a stretch, but it's something.
- Some shade and Syn and some waffling on Hyena that could go either way I guess.
- The Falcon vote is a thing. I don't think they talked about Falcon a lot before it happened. Could go either way as well I guess.

In summery, good look for Thunal, 112, Radish and Nut.
Perhaps maybe not good for Made and Tutu.
Null on others.
Very possibly didn't interact much with lots of teammates.

meh

[MacDougall]

A lot of people have probably done the Cat ISO, but I did as well anyway. Here are my takes, if anyone cares:

- Thunal probably town, because Cat seemed to genuinely not understand the suspicion on her.
- Some good looks for 112 actually. First off, there was a post where Cat said "If you think I'm too easy of a wagon, you shouldn't be voting me in the first place", which did seem like a direct appeal. It's not quoting anyone, but from thread context it seems to be directed at 112. There's also one point where Cat likes my snap back post but forgets who it's directed at. I feel it's a bit too overly produced to pretend you forget a teammate's interaction, and I think Cat would remember it was 112 if they were teamed. (Rip, cause I didn't like 112 before lol).
- Radish also probably town, I think there was some buddying.
- Also vote and shade on Nutella which looks more of a forced scum read, so I don't think they are with Nut.

- I can see where Mac is coming from in regards to Made. The kind of RVS vote on Made, support of the wagon, but then later move the vote. There's also "Sounds more like low-effort than scum to me." (about Made) which is just confusing, cause I think Cat supported the wagon at that point? And the "Hi" interaction between the two. I guess the interaction could be awkward also just because Cat was scum. I've only played with Made once, and I read him scum pretty instinctively there (and was correct), and to be honest, I don't really here. He seemed way more people pleaser-y in that scum game, which he isn't here.
- There's some support of Tutu, but still Cat decides to ISO Tutu (but can't make it work or something, and doesn't return to it). This stands out to me, cause why spend time ISOing someone who you supposedly town read anyway? Could be a case of "I need to do an ISO of a teammate". Maybe that's a stretch, but it's something.
- Some shade and Syn and some waffling on Hyena that could go either way I guess.
- The Falcon vote is a thing. I don't think they talked about Falcon a lot before it happened. Could go either way as well I guess.

In summery, good look for Thunal, 112, Radish and Nut.
Perhaps maybe not good for Made and Tutu.
Null on others.
Very possibly didn't interact much with lots of teammates.

meh

excuse you, that was great content

[TonyStarkPrime]

since tsp and made can't decide I'm going to compromise and have all three in the pool

selected bargain: ability thief

pool: [tsp/kyle/tutuu]

if you have strong feelings you can break the tie by chiming in

TSP outta the pool.

Weh

[TonyStarkPrime]

Mafia are all voting for Martin so I will too is a scorching take

[TonyStarkPrime]

Just sitting here, minding my own business, waiting for Mac to scumread me for getting on his nerves

[MacDougall]

@TonyStarkPrime you keep avoiding me you're mafia

[MacDougall]

is what I was going to write before I entered the thread and read that last post and was like 'holy shit TSP is a god of some kind' then i wrote it anyway because lol

[nutella]

Speaking of vote counts

VC

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Who should get what's coming?
Poll runs till Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:00:00 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


112
2
7%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, Kylemii
Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
1
3%
Voters: Hyena
Dyslexicon
2
7%
Voters: 112, nutella
falcon45ca
2
7%
Voters: Marmot, MartinGG99
Hyena
0
No votes
Voters: None
JackofHearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
JustPlayingitcool
2
7%
Voters: MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Made
1
3%
Voters: Timsup2nothin
Marmot
1
3%
Voters: Master Radishes
MartinGG99
3
10%
Voters: tedxtr, Justplayingitcool, tutuu
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
1
3%
Voters: Made
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
Syn
0
No votes
Voters: None
Thunal33
0
No votes
Voters: None
Timsup2nothin
1
3%
Voters: Syn
TonyStarkPrime
1
3%
Voters: Sloonei
TurnipHead
1
3%
Voters: Long Con
tutuu
1
3%
Voters: Michelle
No vote
1
3%
Voters: Alison
No elimination
1
3%
Voters: Jackofhearts2005
Subterranean Homesick Alien (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
9
30%
Voters: dunya, dyachei, cat, Carotenoid, Hally, juliets, c4e5g3d5, JaggedJimmyJay, Epignosis
Total votes: 30

Is this VC fig butter? Cuz it sure is a spread.

rude

[nutella]

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

@Dyslexicon truce on this

[nutella]

im voting martin because im pretty sure mafia are voting in numbers here which makes him >rand mafia

one day you will all be as good as me

maybe

[MacDougall]

@nutella can you put your smart kid pants back on plz

[nutella]

yall i think tsp is fine

[nutella]

im voting martin because im pretty sure mafia are voting in numbers here which makes him >rand mafia

one day you will all be as good as me

What do you mean by mafia is voting in numbers?

the mafia are being smart and voting for a teammate while the spread is crazy and everything is about to coalesce, it's nice distancing ploy, none of the people voting martin will be there for much longer

ok

[nutella]

i will prob move to martin at some point maybe probably

[nutella]

A lot of people have probably done the Cat ISO, but I did as well anyway. Here are my takes, if anyone cares:

- Thunal probably town, because Cat seemed to genuinely not understand the suspicion on her.
- Some good looks for 112 actually. First off, there was a post where Cat said "If you think I'm too easy of a wagon, you shouldn't be voting me in the first place", which did seem like a direct appeal. It's not quoting anyone, but from thread context it seems to be directed at 112. There's also one point where Cat likes my snap back post but forgets who it's directed at. I feel it's a bit too overly produced to pretend you forget a teammate's interaction, and I think Cat would remember it was 112 if they were teamed. (Rip, cause I didn't like 112 before lol).
- Radish also probably town, I think there was some buddying.
- Also vote and shade on Nutella which looks more of a forced scum read, so I don't think they are with Nut.

- I can see where Mac is coming from in regards to Made. The kind of RVS vote on Made, support of the wagon, but then later move the vote. There's also "Sounds more like low-effort than scum to me." (about Made) which is just confusing, cause I think Cat supported the wagon at that point? And the "Hi" interaction between the two. I guess the interaction could be awkward also just because Cat was scum. I've only played with Made once, and I read him scum pretty instinctively there (and was correct), and to be honest, I don't really here. He seemed way more people pleaser-y in that scum game, which he isn't here.
- There's some support of Tutu, but still Cat decides to ISO Tutu (but can't make it work or something, and doesn't return to it). This stands out to me, cause why spend time ISOing someone who you supposedly town read anyway? Could be a case of "I need to do an ISO of a teammate". Maybe that's a stretch, but it's something.
- Some shade and Syn and some waffling on Hyena that could go either way I guess.
- The Falcon vote is a thing. I don't think they talked about Falcon a lot before it happened. Could go either way as well I guess.

In summery, good look for Thunal, 112, Radish and Nut.
Perhaps maybe not good for Made and Tutu.
Null on others.
Very possibly didn't interact much with lots of teammates.

meh

excuse you, that was great content

my thinking is like

if dizzy lost a mafia partner he could easily come in and create content by looking at the "spew" and posting a few conclusions that are mostly accurate with some amount of misdirection

[Dyslexicon]

my thinking is like

if dizzy lost a mafia partner he could easily come in and create content by looking at the "spew" and posting a few conclusions that are mostly accurate with some amount of misdirection

I don't know why you suddenly decided to scum read me right now, Nutella. I don't really think I'll get through to you a lot, so you figure it out on your own time. But you are doing conformation bias here. You start off with "If dizzy is mafia then..". You have asked me to get more involved with the game. I've spent (too many hours, frankly) some time doing it now, and now you're unhappy with that. I'm town, and I'm trying to give what I can. Since nobody is really engaging with me in trying to answer my questions so far or helping me out, I'm looking at things from my own initiative. Looking at Cat's iso for myself is a pretty obvious start point.

[nutella]

"suddenly" ive been scumreading you for a while you just havent been here

[nutella]

vote nook with me tho

[Dyslexicon]

Anyway, I read Martin's ISO. I don't really think he's scummy. He did have strong town reads on Thunal and Tutu, so if he has a history of buddying up as scum, then maybe, I guess. I just don't find his attitude scummy. I also think he could be the kind of player that jumps to conclusions and then get scum read for that. This happens all the time. This is my guess at this point anyway.

Also, I shouldn't really be voting Tutu. I haven't read almost anything of her posts.

I'll add Michelle to my tentative town reads, mostly based on what others have said. If others read Michelle town, she is probably town. Kind of the same with Nanook, but opposite conclusion.

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

"suddenly" ive been scumreading you for a while you just havent been here

It's sudden for me. I don't know why. You're very frustrating to deal with sometimes, cause you get into these conf bias views. And I don't think you're mafia here.

[Dyslexicon]

vote nook with me tho

Mind meld tho. Am I confirmed town now? Thanks.

[nutella]

ok

[DrWilgy]

read martin's iso, it's not a bad chop

k

Wot

How scummy am I? out of 10.

[Timsup2nothin]

my thinking is like

if dizzy lost a mafia partner he could easily come in and create content by looking at the "spew" and posting a few conclusions that are mostly accurate with some amount of misdirection

I don't know why you suddenly decided to scum read me right now, Nutella. I don't really think I'll get through to you a lot, so you figure it out on your own time. But you are doing conformation bias here. You start off with "If dizzy is mafia then..". You have asked me to get more involved with the game. I've spent (too many hours, frankly) some time doing it now, and now you're unhappy with that. I'm town, and I'm trying to give what I can. Since nobody is really engaging with me in trying to answer my questions so far or helping me out, I'm looking at things from my own initiative. Looking at Cat's iso for myself is a pretty obvious start point.

I am willing to engage with you, but I have been practicing the "yeah not reading this" method myself so I didn't think I'd be much help.

[DrWilgy]

Yo Tim, is sloonei still scum.

[Dyslexicon]

I am willing to engage with you, but I have been practicing the "yeah not reading this" method myself so I didn't think I'd be much help.

Aw, thanks. ^^

I've read some parts now. Namely Cat ISO, part of Thunal ISO, Nanook ISO and Martin ISO. Just some bigger themes I see references to that I don't know what is about. This game is still too big for me right now given my time. But it is what it is. Fairly happy with my Nanook vote now.

[MacDougall]

read martin's iso, it's not a bad chop

k

Wot

How scummy am I? out of 10.

by wilgy standards, like a 5 to 6

by general standards, solid 8

[Dyslexicon]

Sloonei is voting me, which is a scum tell for him. This is only 50 % a joke.

[Timsup2nothin]

Yo Tim, is sloonei still scum.

In a weird tinfoil world where he is faking being muted, maybe. In real world, almost certainly not. Getting targeted by a muter is pretty telling I think.

[Timsup2nothin]

I am willing to engage with you, but I have been practicing the "yeah not reading this" method myself so I didn't think I'd be much help.

Aw, thanks. ^^

I've read some parts now. Namely Cat ISO, part of Thunal ISO, Nanook ISO and Martin ISO. Just some bigger themes I see references to that I don't know what is about. This game is still too big for me right now given my time. But it is what it is. Fairly happy with my Nanook vote now.

I'm a little perplexed by the Nanook sus generally. I have him sort of in typical "inscrutable Nanook" territory to be puzzled over later. I couldn't see anything to justify the early reads on him either way. He's a little pockety with some people, and prickly with others...without direct correlation to his town reads...which seems NAI for Nanook. I dunno.

That's strictly on interactions in thread and some reading pieces where I really intended to be in the thread but ended up doing like a ten minute lurk and not having time to post anything.

[112]

[MacDougall]

Mafia is cancelled.

[Sloonei]

Forgive me if I'm stepping out of line, but I think I speak for many of us when I say that this game needs to be put on hold for the time being.

We have just learned that Turnip Head has passed away. We had hoped to be able to enjoy their presence in this game, as we have for so many years on the Syndicate. And while I am sure they would want us to continue enjoying the game as best we are able, I'm not sure I'm able to enjoy it at all right now.

I'm sorry to be bringing this news here, and I don't know what to say but I'd like to take this opportunity to stress how much I appreciate everybody here. You will be deeply and sorely missed, TH.

[Alison]

I was about to request for a time out yeah.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Since our hosts are currently unavailable, I will go ahead and make the call to pause the game. I have removed the deadline from the poll to preserve it, and its current position may be viewed in the spoiler below. I will confer with @Epignosis and @dunya to determine when it may resume, but it probably won't be a long stoppage.

I understand that it is going to be difficult to play this game right now. I will lock the thread as well to prevent anyone from accidentally carrying on without realizing what's happening. Thank you everyone for your understanding.

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Who should get what's coming?
Poll runs till Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:00 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


112
2
6%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, Kylemii
Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
1
3%
Voters: Hyena
Dyslexicon
1
3%
Voters: 112
falcon45ca
1
3%
Voters: MartinGG99
Hyena
0
No votes
Voters: None
JackofHearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
JustPlayingitcool
1
3%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Made
2
6%
Voters: Timsup2nothin, Marmot
Marmot
1
3%
Voters: Master Radishes
MartinGG99
4
13%
Voters: tedxtr, MacDougall, Justplayingitcool, tutuu
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
3
10%
Voters: Made, nutella, Dyslexicon
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
Syn
0
No votes
Voters: None
Thunal33
0
No votes
Voters: None
Timsup2nothin
1
3%
Voters: Syn
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
TurnipHead
1
3%
Voters: Long Con
tutuu
1
3%
Voters: Michelle
No vote
2
6%
Voters: Alison, Sloonei
No elimination
1
3%
Voters: Jackofhearts2005
Subterranean Homesick Alien (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
9
29%
Voters: dunya, dyachei, cat, Carotenoid, Hally, juliets, c4e5g3d5, JaggedJimmyJay, Epignosis
Total votes: 31

[Dom]

I cannot imagine playing this game. 137 pages on Day 2? I'd be fucked lol

have fun everyone!

[Epignosis]

Dunya and I will talk and determine the best way we know to proceed. I can tell you we won't be opening up shop today. Maybe tomorrow, maybe the day after.

In the meantime, remember to tell the ones you love why while you can.

[Epignosis]

I think we will resume this time tomorrow, and have the end of Day 2 be Thursday at 6pm EST.

[Epignosis]

The Game of Champions 2020 has resumed. Thank you for waiting. You have until 6pm EST tomorrow to vote somebody. Commence.