Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Dyslexicon]

A lot of people have probably done the Cat ISO, but I did as well anyway. Here are my takes, if anyone cares:

- Thunal probably town, because Cat seemed to genuinely not understand the suspicion on her.
- Some good looks for 112 actually. First off, there was a post where Cat said "If you think I'm too easy of a wagon, you shouldn't be voting me in the first place", which did seem like a direct appeal. It's not quoting anyone, but from thread context it seems to be directed at 112. There's also one point where Cat likes my snap back post but forgets who it's directed at. I feel it's a bit too overly produced to pretend you forget a teammate's interaction, and I think Cat would remember it was 112 if they were teamed. (Rip, cause I didn't like 112 before lol).
- Radish also probably town, I think there was some buddying.
- Also vote and shade on Nutella which looks more of a forced scum read, so I don't think they are with Nut.

- I can see where Mac is coming from in regards to Made. The kind of RVS vote on Made, support of the wagon, but then later move the vote. There's also "Sounds more like low-effort than scum to me." (about Made) which is just confusing, cause I think Cat supported the wagon at that point? And the "Hi" interaction between the two. I guess the interaction could be awkward also just because Cat was scum. I've only played with Made once, and I read him scum pretty instinctively there (and was correct), and to be honest, I don't really here. He seemed way more people pleaser-y in that scum game, which he isn't here.
- There's some support of Tutu, but still Cat decides to ISO Tutu (but can't make it work or something, and doesn't return to it). This stands out to me, cause why spend time ISOing someone who you supposedly town read anyway? Could be a case of "I need to do an ISO of a teammate". Maybe that's a stretch, but it's something.
- Some shade and Syn and some waffling on Hyena that could go either way I guess.
- The Falcon vote is a thing. I don't think they talked about Falcon a lot before it happened. Could go either way as well I guess.

In summery, good look for Thunal, 112, Radish and Nut.
Perhaps maybe not good for Made and Tutu.
Null on others.
Very possibly didn't interact much with lots of teammates.

[112]

@Thunal33

hi! really important question. Are you town?

top tier scumhunting

[Marmot]

Did tedxtr replace Turnip Head? [VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

I don't think we have Mafia's win con. Do we???

We can probably make a very good guess at a mafia win con.


I see what you're talking about though. Ehhh, that's a stretch.

im like 99% sure it just being called "mafia" means there is only one

Oh. That's the site meta?

Unless you're a bastard like me.


cats up...

[Dyslexicon]

@MacDougall Can you be my caretaker instead? I think Nut has shunned me.

why

Because it would be easier if someone could help me get oriented in this game. It's not anyone else's job per se, but I think you and Nut are town, so I'm asking for help.

[Made]

@Thunal33

hi! really important question. Are you town?

top tier scumhunting

I do it for the people

[Long Con]

But if your plan is to let the two scum teams destroy each other, I daresay that implies you're town in the scenario.

Exactly. But Radish said "I've done it as town as well".

If I didn't know better I'd think Radish slipped that we're teamed mafia.

No, but for real though. I actually think that's an interesting perspective from Radish there. Why he assumed I was sitting and waiting for people to kill each other within a scum team. Probably because he's in a scum team himself and conscious of it. I'm a freaking mafia god, ok. Last time I lurked this hard I said Dya/Samu teamed on D1 or some shit, and got ignored and they were.

Bye now.

Does the assumed revelation of only one mafia team affect your opinion of this?

[Marmot]

@Thunal33

hi! really important question. Are you town?

top tier scumhunting

I do it for the people

Are you town?

[Dyslexicon]

I feel I should read through Thunal's ISO even though she's probably not teamed with Cat, just because I promised Dya last day, but didn't do it.

Next I'll do Nanook.

If someone could help me understand what the case on Martin is, I'd appreciate it.

[Made]

@Thunal33

hi! really important question. Are you town?

top tier scumhunting

I do it for the people

Are you town?

haha funny Marmot. got jokes hahahah
yes, but don't like it get out

[Marmot]

I'm just going to assume there's one scum team unless there's evidence otherwise.

[Dyslexicon]

Does the assumed revelation of only one mafia team affect your opinion of this?

Yes it does. I'm sorry @Master Radishes who's probably towntown. It was only from love. <3

Why do you bring this up now?

[Long Con]

Did tedxtr replace Turnip Head? [VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

I don't know why you're laughing, I got it right!

[Long Con]

Does the assumed revelation of only one mafia team affect your opinion of this?

Yes it does. I'm sorry @Master Radishes who's probably towntown. It was only from love. <3

Why do you bring this up now?

112 voted for you, so I went to read your posts. The question arose in my mind and I thought it might help inform your reads.

[Dyslexicon]

I haven't read many of Marmot's posts, but I don't think he's been scummy at all really.
I also see scum reads on my floating around. I don't know why yet, but this is wrong.

[Marmot]

I think we should go no yeet and wait for info.

No, we should go for an info yeet.

Also,
[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Is this the info yeet your were looking for?

[Dyslexicon]

112 voted for you, so I went to read your posts. The question arose in my mind and I thought it might help inform your reads.

Alright. I already switched my vote on Radish though. Honestly was and got pretty unsure of it during D1 too. I was just trying to be all that. =p

[Made]

@Marmot why falcon?

[Marmot]

I haven't read many of Marmot's posts, but I don't think he's been scummy at all really.
I also see scum reads on my floating around. I don't know why yet, but this is wrong.

I'm just going to assume you're master tier wolf and move on.

[Marmot]

@Marmot why falcon?

Falcon's vote for cat on Day 1 came without explanation aside from mentioning it took him 5 minutes to iso.

I'd be just as fine voting you for similar reasons.

[Dyslexicon]

I'm just going to assume you're master tier wolf and move on.

I am a master tier wolf actually. But I'm also a pretty good town player. At least decent. =p

[Made]

@Marmot why falcon?

Falcon's vote for cat on Day 1 came without explanation aside from mentioning it took him 5 minutes to iso.

I'd be just as fine voting you for similar reasons.

what about the fact that falcon was the counter wagon? do you think it was w/w?

[Marmot]

I read falcon's Day 2 and don't feel any better about it

There were 4 posts, but I won't tell you how long it took.

[Dyslexicon]

I didn't get past Day 0 in the Thunal ISO, but she gets the Dizzy seal of approval. Very likely town.

[Marmot]

@Marmot why falcon?

Falcon's vote for cat on Day 1 came without explanation aside from mentioning it took him 5 minutes to iso.

I'd be just as fine voting you for similar reasons.

what about the fact that falcon was the counter wagon? do you think it was w/w?

That would indicate that's the case huh. If falcon/cat are teammates, I guess that means their team didn't have much means of providing a mis-yeet instead?

I know cat voted for falcon, I need to look back into that.

[Marmot]

I didn't get past Day 0 in the Thunal ISO, but she gets the Dizzy seal of approval. Very likely town.

She asked to sub out too (in case you missed it)

[TonyStarkPrime]

@Alison give me the stealing one

based on this. ping me if you have objections, or want to nominate more people for the pool

@Alison
take him out, add either Tutuu and Kyle. the people can fight over who is preferred

this is objectively bad

[TonyStarkPrime]

that was all I had to say

[Marmot]

Yep, Falcon is too stubborn to be scum. Take that with a grain of salt.

Good news, i feel i collected some town reads

Refusing to play the game is a common strat here. He gave reads anyway so it's not like he's that stubborn. GTH mafia. No balls.

Actually, I don't think someone says this about a teammate. Not unless the know each other well.

Do cat and falcon know each other? I'm assuming they don't.

[DrWilgy]

Thunal is mafia 98%.

You suspect me every game regardless of my alignment and it's getting a bit frustrating.

If this is true, I'd wager that you and Mac are W/V but which one is the W?

lol, this feels like a false dichotomy

Woah. Cat really formed a wagon.

Neat.

How is everyone?

I don't really believe Wilgy found it neat considering that he announced that he was voting for Thunal later, then voted for Falcon.

oh and i think sloonei is village as well

Why is this?

I don't like the feel of Wilgy casting doubt on Dya here, especially after Dya flipped town.

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It doesn't even look like Wilgy announced he was switching his vote to Falcon! That screams to me that he was trying to just add more votes to the counterwagon.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Quote 1: Why does it feel false. I do still think that to be the case.

Quote 2: Why would I lie about that? What reason do you think I voted Thunal and then Falcon?

Quote 3: how is that doubt more so than a question? I wanted Dya's perspective on sloon.

[DrWilgy]

EoD1 Vote Counts (for my own note taking)

Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena

There's at least one scum in LC, Wilgy, Radish, especially if Falcon flips town.
At least one scum in Nanook, Made, Tutuu, Ted, Mac.
Kyle might be scum for being on me EoD1 and sheeping Sloonei.
I put Jack as scum because I think Nute is town and because I'm betting that there's a scum. I'm reading Syn more town though, so Jack is scum by default.

Out of the first group I can't but think it's LC. Like... Would it be detracting if I asked for people to vote LC and if not LC then yeet me?

Maybe take me out to dinner first.

Hey man, you keep turning me down everytime I ask.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I sorta think you say whatever you want about a counterwagon if you're a wolf

[TonyStarkPrime]

cat is forced into a certain read on falcon no matter falcon's alignment

btw, I have not yet seen a post from falcon and I'm not sure if they exist

[Marmot]

I sorta think you say whatever you want about a counterwagon if you're a wolf

If you're talking about the quote I pulled, I'm pretty sure it came well before either were a wagon.

[Made]

leaving thread for the night

[TonyStarkPrime]

oh. in that case, valid

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall Can you be my caretaker instead? I think Nut has shunned me.

why

Because it would be easier if someone could help me get oriented in this game. It's not anyone else's job per se, but I think you and Nut are town, so I'm asking for help.

i have lost track

[Dyslexicon]

Nanook ISO is not above null for me. I think he has more hard edges in the way he talks this game. Seems less thoughtful than normal, like actual thoughts behind his words. Maybe it's because of playing on the Cindy Kate. He blew up a bit on Nutella, there was a red check on him (which what happened with this? I assume it's not a thing anymore?). I don't know, I don't particularly care for the vibes. He could be mafia.

[Marmot]

I sorta think you say whatever you want about a counterwagon if you're a wolf

If you're talking about the quote I pulled, I'm pretty sure it came well before either were a wagon.

Yeah, here was the vote count at the time (thanks Michelle).

No votes for either.

[Dyslexicon]

I didn't get past Day 0 in the Thunal ISO, but she gets the Dizzy seal of approval. Very likely town.

She asked to sub out too (in case you missed it)

Oh. That's too bad. Town read on that slot anyway.

[Dyslexicon]

i have lost track

Rip.

[Marmot]

Speaking of vote counts

VC

Spoiler: show

Who should get what's coming?
Poll runs till Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:00:00 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


112
2
7%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, Kylemii
Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
1
3%
Voters: Hyena
Dyslexicon
2
7%
Voters: 112, nutella
falcon45ca
2
7%
Voters: Marmot, MartinGG99
Hyena
0
No votes
Voters: None
JackofHearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
JustPlayingitcool
2
7%
Voters: MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Made
1
3%
Voters: Timsup2nothin
Marmot
1
3%
Voters: Master Radishes
MartinGG99
3
10%
Voters: tedxtr, Justplayingitcool, tutuu
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
1
3%
Voters: Made
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
Syn
0
No votes
Voters: None
Thunal33
0
No votes
Voters: None
Timsup2nothin
1
3%
Voters: Syn
TonyStarkPrime
1
3%
Voters: Sloonei
TurnipHead
1
3%
Voters: Long Con
tutuu
1
3%
Voters: Michelle
No vote
1
3%
Voters: Alison
No elimination
1
3%
Voters: Jackofhearts2005
Subterranean Homesick Alien (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
9
30%
Voters: dunya, dyachei, cat, Carotenoid, Hally, juliets, c4e5g3d5, JaggedJimmyJay, Epignosis
Total votes: 30

Is this VC fig butter? Cuz it sure is a spread.

[TonyStarkPrime]

i might be back this time tomorrow if im uh of right mind

[MacDougall]

this vote spread is fucking disgusting lol, can you mob just coalesce please

[Marmot]

Why are you voting JPIC?

[TonyStarkPrime]

this vote spread is fucking disgusting lol, can you mob just coalesce please

there's psuedo-coalescence on made apparently and I oppose it on principle

[Alison]

since tsp and made can't decide I'm going to compromise and have all three in the pool

selected bargain: ability thief

pool: [tsp/kyle/tutuu]

if you have strong feelings you can break the tie by chiming in

[MacDougall]

since tsp and made can't decide I'm going to compromise and have all three in the pool

selected bargain: ability thief

pool: [tsp/kyle/tutuu]

if you have strong feelings you can break the tie by chiming in

can you just give it to me plz lol

[Marmot]

since tsp and made can't decide I'm going to compromise and have all three in the pool

selected bargain: ability thief

pool: [tsp/kyle/tutuu]

if you have strong feelings you can break the tie by chiming in

Are you still taking applicants?

If not, I vote tutuu

[Timsup2nothin]

this vote spread is fucking disgusting lol, can you mob just coalesce please

Mac has spoken, and is absolutely correct. And coming from me that's really saying something. This "game of champions" looks like something we would put on out in the hinterlands right now. Get off you dingy little vanity wagons and put some meat in your votes!!!

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine