Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:18 am
Oh hey, it's HK \o/
Are YOU masons with HK?
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:03 pm
Dont rly get why everyone keeps repeating that mac should be sheeped, i understand for nanook but this type of behavior from other people is brand new to me
I was actually calling Mac scum. o: What do you think?
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:18 am
Oh hey, it's HK \o/
Are YOU masons with HK?
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:03 pm
Dont rly get why everyone keeps repeating that mac should be sheeped, i understand for nanook but this type of behavior from other people is brand new to me
I was actually calling Mac scum. o: What do you think?
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:18 am
Oh hey, it's HK \o/
Are YOU masons with HK?
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:03 pm
Dont rly get why everyone keeps repeating that mac should be sheeped, i understand for nanook but this type of behavior from other people is brand new to me
I was actually calling Mac scum. o: What do you think?
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm
I would chop martin and then master radish before considering made or nanook or dizzy
why not Mr.Nanook?
His name is in there
If ur asking "why not nanook first" - i dont think it will matter if i explain it, chances are my read will get ignored, both in terms of ppl considering my reads since i dont have mac's clout, and also in terms of me coming off as towny as evidenced by my solving effort getting gnored earlier when i was a wagon. So im being pragmatic here sorry friend
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm
I would chop martin and then master radish before considering made or nanook or dizzy
why not Mr.Nanook?
His name is in there
If ur asking "why not nanook first" - i dont think it will matter if i explain it, chances are my read will get ignored, both in terms of ppl considering my reads since i dont have mac's clout, and also in terms of me coming off as towny as evidenced by my solving effort getting gnored earlier when i was a wagon. So im being pragmatic here sorry friend
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:17 am
Making decisions based on spite is objectively the best way to play mafia
This strat has actually helped me a couple times as town -- I've found that more often, it's scum that end up pissing me off in the game rather than town!
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:46 amI've suddenly and unexpectedly found myself in a tunnel - someone feel free to tell me why Made is town so I can get out of it if I need to. (Or come join me - I welcome company.)
Made is town for every reason you just stated that he's scum! Because what you just described is town!me, and it feels like Made has a playstyle similar to mine!
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:19 pm
Mac hell bussing a teammate sounds absurd and completely unnecessary to do to a teammate on day 1! Mac is like 90% town at this point.
Yeah Mac feels town and has done townie things like this and so is just town.
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:46 amI've suddenly and unexpectedly found myself in a tunnel - someone feel free to tell me why Made is town so I can get out of it if I need to. (Or come join me - I welcome company.)
Made is town for every reason you just stated that he's scum! Because what you just described is town!me, and it feels like Made has a playstyle similar to mine!
Normally I might accept this sort of logic, as I do the same thing when reading certain other players too, but I guess the problem here is I don't really townread you to begin with.
Also, based on my previous experience of you and Made I'm not sure I agree you guys have a particularly similar playstyle. Not, like, vastly different I guess, but I can't say I made this connection on my own and have only started considering it since you think so.
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:53 am
and for nutella, i think i flipped my read on wilgy and you may be looking at 2 villagers
don’t really get why there “has” to be one in us two for “chilling” and why it can’t just be like every other syndicate village game where I’ve done ~nothing early on
as for wilgy, i think my case was a bit stretchy upon review
There's been a lot of chilling this game. Apparently your chilling is not the right flavor.
This wagon formation always kills a wolf, except when it kills a townie.
I think we are on a track. Which is probably a good track.
Okay, going back to sleep.
Hi Tim! Where are the wolves in your opinion?
Also we're apparently masons but also not masons but also I'm a mason with radish but I'm also not. According to Hyena anyways.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:19 am
@cat what is your point in making note of my post count?
I personally don't remember pretty much anything you've done. And you have a lot of posts.
So i thought it would be funny to point it out since you are doing the same thing.
This wagon formation always kills a wolf, except when it kills a townie.
I think we are on a track. Which is probably a good track.
Okay, going back to sleep.
Hi Tim! Where are the wolves in your opinion?
Also we're apparently masons but also not masons but also I'm a mason with radish but I'm also not. According to Hyena anyways.
Mac made one of his associatives cases day one, which I hated because preflip associatives, but went with because I had nothing to offer. So we chopped Cat, who was indeed a wolf. The other half of the associative was Made...so I started day 2 with "either I can try to sort this out or we can just chop Made." I opted not to sort anything out, so I'm just sheeping Mac's case that already chopped one wolf and following through on chopping Made.
Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:49 pm
@Sloonei Nanook - I'm gravitating towards scumreading him now. Friendo hasn't engaged me directly at all D1. I feel like he doesn't care about what happens to me in game. He's someone that I believe has a good read on me in general. He wouldn't just sit back and and let me get townread or scumread -- he'd get involved in the discussion, methinks. Syn - I never got a response to my question. Marmot caught on what I was trying to suggest though. Basically, how I interpreted Syn's post to Tim about him not having a read on me because he hasn't read the game was that Syn has read the game and that he DOES have a read on me. Haven't seen it though.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:16 am
My reads are the same as they were yesterday
Literally no changes
Gimme the link please, I want to read them
Tim/Mac/nutella/syn/jack/hyena/tsp/thun
Idk if I posted them in one place before and it’s easier to consult my notes anyways
I went down a really fun rabbit hole. right now I'm calling it "syn and nanook are teammates and we should vote them, unless they're just really good friends, but still we should chop nanook."
It's a working title.
@Master Radishes keep my name out cha mouth
No one who’s voted me has read any of my iso, I can almost guarantee it
I've not read your full iso, but I have read some of your iso, at one point in time.
I just remember cat associations, and your disappearance after the case came down on cat.
If I have the energy today I'll give it a look, but I dunno if I will.
This wagon formation always kills a wolf, except when it kills a townie.
I think we are on a track. Which is probably a good track.
Okay, going back to sleep.
Hi Tim! Where are the wolves in your opinion?
Also we're apparently masons but also not masons but also I'm a mason with radish but I'm also not. According to Hyena anyways.
Mac made one of his associatives cases day one, which I hated because preflip associatives, but went with because I had nothing to offer. So we chopped Cat, who was indeed a wolf. The other half of the associative was Made...so I started day 2 with "either I can try to sort this out or we can just chop Made." I opted not to sort anything out, so I'm just sheeping Mac's case that already chopped one wolf and following through on chopping Made.
I have no idea what these other wagons are about.
good enough for me, also read some cat ISO posts talking about made, seems bad for made.
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm
I would chop martin and then master radish before considering made or nanook or dizzy
why not Mr.Nanook?
how about why mr nanook?
How about just not Nanook. There are a number of "feelie readers" who have expressed that Nanook "doesn't feel right." As far as I've seen (and admittedly I haven't gone looking) these feelie reads haven't even gone to "feels wrong"...just "doesn't feel right." My conversations with Nanook when he has happened to be around at the same time I was have gotten me the absolutely NAI nothing I expect from Nanook, so I see no reason for an early chop there.
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm
I would chop martin and then master radish before considering made or nanook or dizzy
why not Mr.Nanook?
how about why mr nanook?
How about just not Nanook. There are a number of "feelie readers" who have expressed that Nanook "doesn't feel right." As far as I've seen (and admittedly I haven't gone looking) these feelie reads haven't even gone to "feels wrong"...just "doesn't feel right." My conversations with Nanook when he has happened to be around at the same time I was have gotten me the absolutely NAI nothing I expect from Nanook, so I see no reason for an early chop there.
Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:49 pm
@Sloonei Nanook - I'm gravitating towards scumreading him now. Friendo hasn't engaged me directly at all D1. I feel like he doesn't care about what happens to me in game. He's someone that I believe has a good read on me in general. He wouldn't just sit back and and let me get townread or scumread -- he'd get involved in the discussion, methinks. Syn - I never got a response to my question. Marmot caught on what I was trying to suggest though. Basically, how I interpreted Syn's post to Tim about him not having a read on me because he hasn't read the game was that Syn has read the game and that he DOES have a read on me. Haven't seen it though.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:16 am
My reads are the same as they were yesterday
Literally no changes
Gimme the link please, I want to read them
Tim/Mac/nutella/syn/jack/hyena/tsp/thun
Idk if I posted them in one place before and it’s easier to consult my notes anyways
I went down a really fun rabbit hole. right now I'm calling it "syn and nanook are teammates and we should vote them, unless they're just really good friends, but still we should chop nanook."
It's a working title.
@Master Radishes keep my name out cha mouth
No one who’s voted me has read any of my iso, I can almost guarantee it
I've not read your full iso, but I have read some of your iso, at one point in time.
I just remember cat associations, and your disappearance after the case came down on cat.
If I have the energy today I'll give it a look, but I dunno if I will.
in case you missed it when I said it before, I was the second person to vote Cat, and I left thread and didn't come back cuz I thought the day ended later. If i were bad, it wouldn't of been hard to move my vote off of cat and make the vote closer. My team could of even reminded me to vote for falcon in the group chat if I forgot. Please take these things in mind if you haven't already.
Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:49 pm
@Sloonei Nanook - I'm gravitating towards scumreading him now. Friendo hasn't engaged me directly at all D1. I feel like he doesn't care about what happens to me in game. He's someone that I believe has a good read on me in general. He wouldn't just sit back and and let me get townread or scumread -- he'd get involved in the discussion, methinks. Syn - I never got a response to my question. Marmot caught on what I was trying to suggest though. Basically, how I interpreted Syn's post to Tim about him not having a read on me because he hasn't read the game was that Syn has read the game and that he DOES have a read on me. Haven't seen it though.
I TR you and you haven’t been in actual danger so
No need to go hard in your defense
Especially with the claim throwing me off
I don't really agree with Hyena's read of Nanook here. In Bread, Nanook was very content on getting me chopped pretty much all game. He wouldn't defend other people, even if he figured they were town. I feel like not getting involved in brawls that don't involve him is closer to Nanook's Meta. BUT, he defends Hyena's read as accurate (which it could be. I'm not a Nanook meta expert or anything). I find it scummy that he accepts this read of his meta as 100% accurate without any sass and addendums. it's scummy to avoid conflicts (like the kinda a disagreement on meta might produce) in hopes of the person backs down from their case
I was somewhat astonished that the answer to "who tilted Nanook" was not "Syn did it."
Idt syn’s ever tilted me
Me neither but he tries constantly and I like to encourage him to think he may be effective someday.
Any idea why Nutella has him so far down the list?
I assume cause he’s syn and he lives in the low-middle of readslists
this post and the following post show Nanook saying that Syn is typically a fairly shiftier player regardless of alightment
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:46 am
I’ve never seen syn not get POE’d but he’s a very good town player
...and despite that, Nanook claims that Syn is a very good town player even in POE. To me, Nanook means something along the lines of that when it matter, Syn will show to be town. But, Nanook goes further than that here:
i would stop posting as revenge and rob you guys of my oversized intellect and solving
That seems like the only appropriate reaction
while obviously they're both joking here, the premise of Nanook's joke is kinda odd. He's floating that he thinks syn could be towncore this game--which means he thinks he looks at least a little townie. But that's a bit of a paradox, like what reason would Nanook ever have to think a shifty player like Syn is probably town?
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:16 am
My reads are the same as they were yesterday
Literally no changes
Gimme the link please, I want to read them
Tim/Mac/nutella/syn/jack/hyena/tsp/thun
Idk if I posted them in one place before and it’s easier to consult my notes anyways
He then goes to put Syn where he belongs, middle low part of reads. But he thinks Syn in townie? That's sus.
Even past that, I feel like Nanook's willingness to post reads here is kinda weird. What I wouldn't had given to get this kind of straight forward interaction from Nanook in Bread Mafia. I also just don't like the sentences that follows his reads list. It just reads off to me. It's the kinda of thing I'd say if I knew something (in this case, the something known is the opaqueness of his reads) but don't want to make a big deal out of it. I think that's kinda apologetic perspective is weird coming from Nanook. Of course, you can play mafia however you want, but the way Nanook is playing feels more like it's for an audience. In terms of baddie intent and agenda--specifically in how he's talks about Syn-- I think he's either trying to pocket Syn, who seems to know him well, or Syn's his teammate.
Got rid of the spoilers cuz i'm lowkey proud of this take
Spoilering it again because it's too big.
Did Nanook say his list was an ordered one? Also, you started this with saying you disagree with hyena's read on Nanook (which is a scumread), but are also drawing associations between Nanook and Syn saying they are scum, although perhaps you're disagree with the content of the read, and not necessarily the alignment. Also, there's a disconnect in saying that avoiding brawls is closer to Nanook's meta, and then stating a reason you suspect him is that he is avoiding conflict.
I disagree with Nanook on Syn and don't see an obvious reason to townread TSP or Jack, but that's a separate concern. Hee ho.
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:04 pm
Also, just so I can understand the logic going forward, why would a player vote their teammate and then ghost thread?
Because Cat was a goner so busing was the order of the day?
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:04 pm
Also, just so I can understand the logic going forward, why would a player vote their teammate and then ghost thread?
Iirc, your vote came at a time when cat was not in danger.
As for why you ghosted, I dunno. Why did you not return?
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm
I would chop martin and then master radish before considering made or nanook or dizzy
why not Mr.Nanook?
how about why mr nanook?
How about just not Nanook. There are a number of "feelie readers" who have expressed that Nanook "doesn't feel right." As far as I've seen (and admittedly I haven't gone looking) these feelie reads haven't even gone to "feels wrong"...just "doesn't feel right." My conversations with Nanook when he has happened to be around at the same time I was have gotten me the absolutely NAI nothing I expect from Nanook, so I see no reason for an early chop there.
I'm totally down for realies over feelies, so if the case vs nanook is "feels not right" I'm going to ignore it.
Okay, I'm not gonna run this back and forth cuz doing so is only gonna get me more votes, so I'll just say it's worth considering the hypothetical situation where I'm town, voted cat, and didn't come back to thread
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm
I would chop martin and then master radish before considering made or nanook or dizzy
why not Mr.Nanook?
how about why mr nanook?
How about just not Nanook. There are a number of "feelie readers" who have expressed that Nanook "doesn't feel right." As far as I've seen (and admittedly I haven't gone looking) these feelie reads haven't even gone to "feels wrong"...just "doesn't feel right." My conversations with Nanook when he has happened to be around at the same time I was have gotten me the absolutely NAI nothing I expect from Nanook, so I see no reason for an early chop there.
if not feelie reads, what do you prefer?
Speaking for myself, feelies are only good to either start suspicion, or to add to an existing case. I want to see posts where nanook is making mistakes, or posts where someone is pushing and the reaction is bad, not comments about how he doesn't feel right.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:27 am
Idt I’ve been floating through the thread so much as just not present for large chunks of it
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:04 pm
Also, just so I can understand the logic going forward, why would a player vote their teammate and then ghost thread?
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:15 pm
Okay, I'm not gonna run this back and forth cuz doing so is only gonna get me more votes, so I'll just say it's worth considering the hypothetical situation where I'm town, voted cat, and didn't come back to thread
Why do you think you can't be w/w with cat? Like show don't tell
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:04 pm
Also, just so I can understand the logic going forward, why would a player vote their teammate and then ghost thread?