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can u explain this post radishy?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:50 pmInteresting that you're not voting me.Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:36 pm Also,this post, also from D4, becomes really interesting to me if Radishes is, indeed, scum.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:01 am @Master Radishes I am once again asking you to help me. I just can't get a good enough overview of this game. Can you please tell me the following things:
- What is the case on Tutu?
- What is the case on Martin?
- What do you think about 112?
I'd be forever grateful.
didnt u say earlier that u think its dumb that we trust syn misunderstanding his action
i thought hyena was lock town for u, am i misremembering?
so the idea is that ur saying u think hyena might be scummy for TMIing u town
i think its an attempt for u to look towny but idk if it makes sense for u to think to tinfoil hynea
1) cuz hes lock town for u (correct me if im misudnerstanding)
2) cuz u just said we shoudlnt believe syn, so why is it weird for a lock town read of yours (hyena) to not immediately vote u?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
and i am near 70% sure kyle is a 3P role that has to find someone (some role or something), but if he’s a wolf then that’s good too
cliffs : there’s probably a very low likelihood of his claim being real (mostly the posting restriction part of it)
and even if it is real, then hosts would never allow him to tell the thread “hi guise so i have a role that can do cool stuff but all i’ll have to do is shut up” because the whole point of posting restriction roles is that you have to maneuver your way around suspicion by making safe votes, and expose yourself to suspicion because you’re not posting.
there’s usually a risk you have to pay in order to gain these “abilities” when it comes to posting restriction roles. that’s pretty much the design idea behind it.
so why would he be able to claim that when he basically has no risks to encounter and gains op abilities too? like what’s the point of it?
cliffs : there’s probably a very low likelihood of his claim being real (mostly the posting restriction part of it)
and even if it is real, then hosts would never allow him to tell the thread “hi guise so i have a role that can do cool stuff but all i’ll have to do is shut up” because the whole point of posting restriction roles is that you have to maneuver your way around suspicion by making safe votes, and expose yourself to suspicion because you’re not posting.
there’s usually a risk you have to pay in order to gain these “abilities” when it comes to posting restriction roles. that’s pretty much the design idea behind it.
so why would he be able to claim that when he basically has no risks to encounter and gains op abilities too? like what’s the point of it?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Maybe Hyena can let you ask her!Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:34 pmI wonder how mad she is that she sacrificed herself for a cop who thought his role was just funny wordsTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:31 pm Thought about reading everything since I went to bed, and I probably will...but...
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Hyena handing out seance ability is confirmed, I am in a chat with Mac.
During their mason chat Nutella informed him that her role was to swap with a dead. Jack's back, that's that. It is possible that the swap removed Nutella and thwarted a NK targeting her.

What's this about a red radish? I can look back and maybe I will...but...
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
I'll see if @MartinGG99 has checked in, cause he has an answer to something I'm interested in.
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was thinking the same lmaoSyn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:34 pmI wonder how mad she is that she sacrificed herself for a cop who thought his role was just funny wordsTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:31 pm Thought about reading everything since I went to bed, and I probably will...but...
IMPORTANT MECH STUFF
Hyena handing out seance ability is confirmed, I am in a chat with Mac.
During their mason chat Nutella informed him that her role was to swap with a dead. Jack's back, that's that. It is possible that the swap removed Nutella and thwarted a NK targeting her.
idk why jack got so mad when he got yeeted
poor nuttie
very funny though
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
I am probably dying tonight no matter which way Radishes flips so Hyena should not waste their seance on me lolTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:36 pmMaybe Hyena can let you ask her!Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:34 pmI wonder how mad she is that she sacrificed herself for a cop who thought his role was just funny wordsTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:31 pm Thought about reading everything since I went to bed, and I probably will...but...
IMPORTANT MECH STUFF
Hyena handing out seance ability is confirmed, I am in a chat with Mac.
During their mason chat Nutella informed him that her role was to swap with a dead. Jack's back, that's that. It is possible that the swap removed Nutella and thwarted a NK targeting her.
What's this about a red radish? I can look back and maybe I will...but...
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Ok, this is very cool. And if Radish is woof, I will have a sad for letting him go from my initial find. But also mostly just happy times.Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:13 pmHard disagree. No idea why town is ignoring that I've very very very obviously implied mech info of Radish being a wolf.
So I will make it crystal clear. I have mech info that indicates Radish is a wolf. I will not reveal what that info is until D5. I am the one who cased Marmot and I am the one who picked Marmot for the flash wagon. I've been very townie. I gain nothing in this scenario if I'm wolfing because I get turbo-chopped tomorrow if Radish is a civilian. He is a wolf.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
tim, do you have any info from nutella regarding why falcon died?
was looking at that part of the thread a while back and thought a good explanation that everyone missed was that nutella could’ve been a spider from mars role, and thus falcon died according to his role flip. if she was then falcon was likely not soup killed? that could help us with claims and reduce some paranoia
was looking at that part of the thread a while back and thought a good explanation that everyone missed was that nutella could’ve been a spider from mars role, and thus falcon died according to his role flip. if she was then falcon was likely not soup killed? that could help us with claims and reduce some paranoia
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
yeah, pretty muchSyn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:13 pmHard disagree. No idea why town is ignoring that I've very very very obviously implied mech info of Radish being a wolf.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:40 am Nutella/Radish/Martin/JPIC/Probably Syn/Probably Tim/Probably Michelle (if nobody got issues with her, she's probably town, right?)
^These are town/very likely town. Anyone disagree?
I really don't know what's going on with Nutella/Jack switching roles? Did I miss something here? I thought I read that, but haven't retained it.
So I will make it crystal clear. I have mech info that indicates Radish is a wolf. I will not reveal what that info is until D5. I am the one who cased Marmot and I am the one who picked Marmot for the flash wagon. I've been very townie. I gain nothing in this scenario if I'm wolfing because I get turbo-chopped tomorrow if Radish is a civilian. He is a wolf.
which is why i made the radishes gotta die post
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
alison gave protection ability to falcon n3
i guess its possible someone tried to kill alison
but i think its most likely he just died from his own role
poor @Alison i shed a tear for u T_T
i guess its possible someone tried to kill alison
but i think its most likely he just died from his own role
poor @Alison i shed a tear for u T_T
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
actually, if falcon was soup killed, then he probably would’ve died at SoD, and not in the middle of it
so nutella was probably a spider from mars role
love solving puzzles, ez stuff is ez
so nutella was probably a spider from mars role
love solving puzzles, ez stuff is ez
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nook too someone said falcon/nook hinted at it also also also i found this before u teddieeeeeeeee im smartttttttttttterrrrrrrr nerdieeeeeeeeeeee
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at least i can blame uni life for this one, cuz i didn’t have time, but i’m pretty sure i was the first to think about it in my head
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Did you see the mech stuff from kyle?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
locked 3pJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:49 pmDid you see the mech stuff from kyle?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>
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JERRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKtedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pmat least i can blame uni life for this one, cuz i didn’t have time, but i’m pretty sure i was the first to think about it in my head
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If MR flips red, I think it might be better to shoot Dyslexicon instead. Tutuu can in theory be cleared by the rest of town overnight, while Dyslexicon is solidly implicated by wolf!Radish and doesn't have hypothetical mech info backing them.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>
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pls dont vig me when a player has claimed mech info that im town lmaoTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>
at least wait until kyle flips, if he doesnt flip town then go ahead and kill me
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Good news. I think i can vote Radishes too in this caseTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>
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And if MR flips green, shoot me. It'll be a colossal fuck-up on my part and my town cred will be cratered. You've seen wolves take advantage of this before re: me, so it's just best to get rid of me ASAP and go back to true POE hunting.Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pmIf MR flips red, I think it might be better to shoot Dyslexicon instead. Tutuu can in theory be cleared by the rest of town overnight, while Dyslexicon is solidly implicated by wolf!Radish and doesn't have hypothetical mech info backing them.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
so master radishes wolf and then who'd be last?
does wilgy work? if it is then watch me get no credit for it
does wilgy work? if it is then watch me get no credit for it
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Unvoting so there is no accidental hammer before Radishes can return
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i don't think hammer is a thing here, but don't listen to me, i've read nothing if it was announced
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Ah ok, I'm used to playing with hammer rules but just in case lol...
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
@Hyena Me voting someone is not me going "This person is more scummy than this person" like some formula. It's a place I feel ok going at the moment. All my reasons for suspecting people have been pretty weak or at least felt weak to me due to lack on info (my fault). Ironically, the reads I had that were stronger reasoned was Radish scum D1 (that I left, don't remember when, but preferred Cat after Mac pointed them out) and Radish seemed way better especially since yeeting Marmot. My Cat vote was well reasoned in my mind, funnily enough a strong part of it was me misreading something in their ISO (thought they had said "There's nothing wrong with Alison!" which was a super awkward response that tipped the vote for me, when in fact, that was not what Cat said I noticed when I read for spew lol). My Nanook suspicion was pure gut.
My 112 suspicion has been her handling of me and also equity with Nanook. I'm wary that I could omgus here, cause I do that quite frequently.
My Sloonei suspicion is more interest than anything. But voting Martin and voting generally off wagon for Sloonei specifically does not sit that well with me.
My Wilgy suspicion is not strong. I don't know if I should've voted there tbh.
I also have not paid attention to when days end either. I haven't been all that concerned with who I'm voting as long as it's somewhere I feel reasonably ok with, and maybe I should've or would've changed if I was present at different moments.
Overall, I've had pretty good instincts actually, especially if Radish is scum. Good instinct, and not the best followthrough, is basically the trade mark of my town play lol. You're creating narratives based on theories. There's absolutely no reason why I would be more likely to do the things you bring up as scum more than as town (actually quite the opposite, but I won't press that anymore).
I've been quite happy with how the game is going, followed (what I see as) town players who seems to better know what's going on, been comfortable with general PoE, quarrelled a bit with people who suspects me. I've done the mech things I can to work for town too. So yeah, I've said enough in my defence now, I think. Your choice if you want to listen or not.
My 112 suspicion has been her handling of me and also equity with Nanook. I'm wary that I could omgus here, cause I do that quite frequently.
My Sloonei suspicion is more interest than anything. But voting Martin and voting generally off wagon for Sloonei specifically does not sit that well with me.
My Wilgy suspicion is not strong. I don't know if I should've voted there tbh.
I also have not paid attention to when days end either. I haven't been all that concerned with who I'm voting as long as it's somewhere I feel reasonably ok with, and maybe I should've or would've changed if I was present at different moments.
Overall, I've had pretty good instincts actually, especially if Radish is scum. Good instinct, and not the best followthrough, is basically the trade mark of my town play lol. You're creating narratives based on theories. There's absolutely no reason why I would be more likely to do the things you bring up as scum more than as town (actually quite the opposite, but I won't press that anymore).
I've been quite happy with how the game is going, followed (what I see as) town players who seems to better know what's going on, been comfortable with general PoE, quarrelled a bit with people who suspects me. I've done the mech things I can to work for town too. So yeah, I've said enough in my defence now, I think. Your choice if you want to listen or not.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Clearly I need to ISO Kyle and go find this mech info, unless someone can clue me in.tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pmpls dont vig me when a player has claimed mech info that im town lmaoTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>
at least wait until kyle flips, if he doesnt flip town then go ahead and kill me
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
There's no hammer. But there's also still over a day left, so, y'know, counterwagoning and pressure.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
ah i thought EoD was in 4 hours
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kyle strongly implied parity checking, but then denied being able to parity checkTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:59 pmClearly I need to ISO Kyle and go find this mech info, unless someone can clue me in.tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pmpls dont vig me when a player has claimed mech info that im town lmaoTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>
at least wait until kyle flips, if he doesnt flip town then go ahead and kill me
but DID say he DOES have mech info that clears falcon (duh), someone else (erm, TSP?), and now tutuu
it's a little shaky and I'm not sure i believe it, but if there are 3 or more wolves left, and if MR is a wolf, I think exploring other wolf candidates is just smart while we figure out the tutuu sitch
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Wtf. I'm clearly not teamed with Radish. That was like my only firm suspicion at start of D1, and I love him to death and would never put that attention on him if we were scum together. I hate being in PoE so fucking annoying.Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pmIf MR flips red, I think it might be better to shoot Dyslexicon instead. Tutuu can in theory be cleared by the rest of town overnight, while Dyslexicon is solidly implicated by wolf!Radish and doesn't have hypothetical mech info backing them.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>
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kyle's original claim was "falcon and long con are same alignment unless i was roleblocked or one of them is 3p"
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this is coming from someone who said "radishes and tutuu are w/w" and "if radishes flips w, so will tutuu" so you know I'm being smort!!!Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:01 pmkyle strongly implied parity checking, but then denied being able to parity checkTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:59 pmClearly I need to ISO Kyle and go find this mech info, unless someone can clue me in.tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pmpls dont vig me when a player has claimed mech info that im town lmaoTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>
at least wait until kyle flips, if he doesnt flip town then go ahead and kill me
but DID say he DOES have mech info that clears falcon (duh), someone else (erm, TSP?), and now tutuu
it's a little shaky and I'm not sure i believe it, but if there are 3 or more wolves left, and if MR is a wolf, I think exploring other wolf candidates is just smart while we figure out the tutuu sitch
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Didn't he give a non-answer to tutuu though? It was a no but yes answerSyn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:01 pmkyle strongly implied parity checking, but then denied being able to parity checkTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:59 pmClearly I need to ISO Kyle and go find this mech info, unless someone can clue me in.tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pmpls dont vig me when a player has claimed mech info that im town lmaoTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>
at least wait until kyle flips, if he doesnt flip town then go ahead and kill me
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
syn, your points are why i think kyle is just a 3p and probably never a wolf, can't ever see how he'd play like that as a wolf
and i made a huge post about it that didn't gain any reactions
and i made a huge post about it that didn't gain any reactions
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This doesn't actually mean anything. Radishes included Marmot in his "hey let's do a flash wagon" list, and this gave him TOWN CRED!!!!!! so it's not really outside the realm of possibility that a wolf would scum-read a fellow wolf.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:01 pmWtf. I'm clearly not teamed with Radish. That was like my only firm suspicion at start of D1, and I love him to death and would never put that attention on him if we were scum together. I hate being in PoE so fucking annoying.Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pmIf MR flips red, I think it might be better to shoot Dyslexicon instead. Tutuu can in theory be cleared by the rest of town overnight, while Dyslexicon is solidly implicated by wolf!Radish and doesn't have hypothetical mech info backing them.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>
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he said tutuu is town and shouldnt be yeeted i suggest we all listen to kyle he's a smart manJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:02 pmDidn't he give a non-answer to tutuu though? It was a no but yes answerSyn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:01 pmkyle strongly implied parity checking, but then denied being able to parity checkTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:59 pmClearly I need to ISO Kyle and go find this mech info, unless someone can clue me in.tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pmpls dont vig me when a player has claimed mech info that im town lmaoTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>
at least wait until kyle flips, if he doesnt flip town then go ahead and kill me
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Another thing: Sloonei is not mafia with 112. The way Sloonei insists on this one reason to clear 112 doesn't at all look like something he would do as mafia teammates. It looks either like Sloonei is mafia and knows 112 is town, or Sloonei is just town, believes his point and 112 could be anything.
I'll look back on Sloonei's reaction to my initial suspicion on Radish, cause iirc he supported it, but passively and didn't pursue it as far as I remember.
I've not read many of Sloonei's posts and I ask for opinions there.
I'll look back on Sloonei's reaction to my initial suspicion on Radish, cause iirc he supported it, but passively and didn't pursue it as far as I remember.
I've not read many of Sloonei's posts and I ask for opinions there.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
cool bean
okay it was LC not TSP
all these acronym people
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I don't know 3P meta here
does kyle being 3P matter to us or nah? Alison's claim can scum-side, if I remember correctly, so is that a generally good assumption to make as well about a hypothetical 3P!Kyle?
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It's not that I did, it's how I did. My reason was legit as fuck and I'm mad I left it or was charmed or whatever happened. I kind of get it, that I'm in PoE, but also I think it's dumb at the same time. Whatever. Just a struggle. If I was mafia, mafia would be doing good, not poorly lol. Lock clear =p
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@Kylemii Wouldn't you know if you were roleblocked, if you have an investigative role?