Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Sloonei]

I remember tutuu's response to this when it was brought up earlier, and I thought that looked iffy. I am not unwilling to entertain a tutuu suspicion. But I still think she looks very town on behavior alone.

[Timsup2nothin]

EoD an Jack’s flip is irrelevant to tutuu as jack didnt use his ability

Doesn't matter...no one reading that would know that Jack didn't use his ability.

"Oh, he flipped cop...probably never checked anyone." - no mafia player, ever.

So, if someone wants to say "I, and probably the entire wolf team, just thinks Tim is suck a dipshit that he would shoot someone other than Tutuu after the cop flipped shouting 'kill Tutuu'" then cool, I will deal with them. But IMO the wolf team KNEW I was about to shoot Tutuu...and they STOPPED me.

It was relevant during the night phase. But now that we have learnt Jack didn’t use his ability, I don’t think it’s as relevant.

Surprisingly, it was during the night phase that I shot Tutuu, and also during the night phase that someone stopped me. Who do you suppose that was...and why?

[TonyStarkPrime]

if i were a wolf (not named tsp) I would have thought that tim was going to shoot tsp and let him do his thing

[TonyStarkPrime]

tutuu could have been jailkept?

[Justplayingitcool]

EoD an Jack’s flip is irrelevant to tutuu as jack didnt use his ability

Doesn't matter...no one reading that would know that Jack didn't use his ability.

"Oh, he flipped cop...probably never checked anyone." - no mafia player, ever.

So, if someone wants to say "I, and probably the entire wolf team, just thinks Tim is suck a dipshit that he would shoot someone other than Tutuu after the cop flipped shouting 'kill Tutuu'" then cool, I will deal with them. But IMO the wolf team KNEW I was about to shoot Tutuu...and they STOPPED me.

It was relevant during the night phase. But now that we have learnt Jack didn’t use his ability, I don’t think it’s as relevant.

Surprisingly, it was during the night phase that I shot Tutuu, and also during the night phase that someone stopped me. Who do you suppose that was...and why?

Oh you’re talking about the kill. Idk

I still think tutuu is town from her posts and I trust kyle with his mech ibfo

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'm voting for MR and blaming Syn if it goes south. this is optimal

[Timsup2nothin]

if i were a wolf (not named tsp) I would have thought that tim was going to shoot tsp and let him do his thing

Don't flatter yourself. Sure, blasting you was attractive...up until a flipped cop died screaming "Tim shoot Tutuu!!!!!"

Even for a rube from the hinterlands like me the wolves would think that was pretty compelling, yeah?

[TonyStarkPrime]

tim: wolves have created an anti-mech culture

*mech seems to show that tutuu is likely town*

tim:

[Made]

Does sloonei normally try to town lead?

*looks at banner*

you don't have to lead to win. I'm sure you know this

[Made]

Can somone bring this convo back to earth, I'm trying to jump in, but it feels like we're cycling on the same 5 points?

[Timsup2nothin]

tim: wolves have created an anti-mech culture

*mech seems to show that tutuu is likely town*

tim:

Yes I do in fact wish I had just blasted you because your play here is exactly as promised. Post a fucking Taylor Swift gif or something as long as you're committed to being a useless waste of posts.

[Timsup2nothin]

Can somone bring this convo back to earth, I'm trying to jump in, but it feels like we're cycling on the same 5 points?

Because they are the solid points among all the "gosh but she feels townie to me" horseshit that is being shoveled around here.

[Syn]

if i were a wolf (not named tsp) I would have thought that tim was going to shoot tsp and let him do his thing

Don't flatter yourself. Sure, blasting you was attractive...up until a flipped cop died screaming "Tim shoot Tutuu!!!!!"

Even for a rube from the hinterlands like me the wolves would think that was pretty compelling, yeah?

i hate you

[Made]

okay thesis statement time. @Timsup2nothin give your thesis statement: what you're thinking right now and where you want to vote and what you want other people to know. no more than 100 words. less than 50 preferred

[TonyStarkPrime]

tim: wolves have created an anti-mech culture

*mech seems to show that tutuu is likely town*

tim:

Yes I do in fact wish I had just blasted you because your play here is exactly as promised. Post a fucking Taylor Swift gif or something as long as you're committed to being a useless waste of posts.

[Sloonei]

Does sloonei normally try to town lead?

*looks at banner*

you don't have to lead to win. I'm sure you know this

but you don't become The Champ without inspiring confidence in your fellow players.

[TonyStarkPrime]

tim: wolves have created an anti-mech culture

*mech seems to show that tutuu is likely town*

tim:

Yes I do in fact wish I had just blasted you because your play here is exactly as promised. Post a fucking Taylor Swift gif or something as long as you're committed to being a useless waste of posts.

i don't think i promised you anything

[TonyStarkPrime]

who is promising you something

[Made]

Does sloonei normally try to town lead?

*looks at banner*

you don't have to lead to win. I'm sure you know this

but you don't become The Champ without inspiring confidence in your fellow players.

you do if you rolled scum

[TonyStarkPrime]

is it your wolf partners

[Timsup2nothin]

okay thesis statement time. @Timsup2nothin give your thesis statement: what you're thinking right now and where you want to vote and what you want other people to know. no more than 100 words. less than 50 preferred

Do your own work. I just said it to Sloonie and JPIC who asked the same question within the past fifty posts.

[Syn]

Does sloonei normally try to town lead?

*looks at banner*

you don't have to lead to win. I'm sure you know this

but you don't become The Champ without inspiring confidence in your fellow players.

everyone voted for you because they all thought nobody else would vote for you

it's like those teen movies

[Made]

okay thesis statement time. @Timsup2nothin give your thesis statement: what you're thinking right now and where you want to vote and what you want other people to know. no more than 100 words. less than 50 preferred

Do your own work. I just said it to Sloonie and JPIC who asked the same question within the past fifty posts.

you could of just said the second part meanie

[Jackofhearts2005]

I was getting unnecessarily stressed because I thought the phase was almost over.

[Made]

So, the world according to Mac:

Tutuu and 112 are bad bad
Rasishes and Dizzy are bad but not as bad
Hyena is next bad
And me and Made are sorta sus still

And Kyle is in there somewhere but I'm waiting for him to clarify exactly where.

Does he speak for you Tim?

[Sloonei]

Does sloonei normally try to town lead?

*looks at banner*

you don't have to lead to win. I'm sure you know this

but you don't become The Champ without inspiring confidence in your fellow players.

everyone voted for you because they all thought nobody else would vote for you

it's like those teen movies

It did happen before I took off my glasses.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Tim, why did you initially claim to not have shot at anyone (if you did indeed do such a thing)

[Timsup2nothin]

tim: wolves have created an anti-mech culture

*mech seems to show that tutuu is likely town*

tim:

Yes I do in fact wish I had just blasted you because your play here is exactly as promised. Post a fucking Taylor Swift gif or something as long as you're committed to being a useless waste of posts.

i don't think i promised you anything

Yeah you promised another "I spent the whole game posting Taylor Swift gifs and jacking the game off and I was town" style performance, and you are living up to it, except the gifs part. If you're a wolf, congrats on having created "totally useless as town" meta to hide behind...if you're town, piss off, shoulda just shot you.

[Timsup2nothin]

Tim, why did you initially claim to not have shot at anyone (if you did indeed do such a thing)

Taylor Swift gif or stfu

[TonyStarkPrime]

I already gave you one but it broke somehow

[Timsup2nothin]

So, the world according to Mac:

Tutuu and 112 are bad bad
Rasishes and Dizzy are bad but not as bad
Hyena is next bad
And me and Made are sorta sus still

And Kyle is in there somewhere but I'm waiting for him to clarify exactly where.

Does he speak for you Tim?

Nope...I don't suspect me...and I disagree on 112...we're kinda up in the air on Hyena.

[TonyStarkPrime]

tim: wolves have created an anti-mech culture

*mech seems to show that tutuu is likely town*

tim:

Yes I do in fact wish I had just blasted you because your play here is exactly as promised. Post a fucking Taylor Swift gif or something as long as you're committed to being a useless waste of posts.

https://tenor.com/view/taylor-swift-irr ... if-5269763

[Made]

also this thread looks like a field of well-grown GMO-certified "What the fucks" is going on

It's not actually that hectic. I said I have mech info that indicates Radish as wolf. He insists I out the info so he can debate it. I said no. Dyslexicon gets associative-read to a w!Radish. They insist I out my info. I said no. Jack, the flipped cop who didn't cop-check anyone all game, insists I out the info. I said no. JPIC piled on for the lulz. It's mostly just people being salty that I won't out myself and help wolves decide their night action strategy.

I also openly offered myself for a vig kill if Radish somehow flips green.

is this a good tldr of the last 3 pages or so for you? If so we're pretty much on the same exact page.

[Timsup2nothin]

I already gave you one but it broke somehow

Cool...the universe is agreeing with me apparently on the value of your contributions.

[TonyStarkPrime]

are you gonna answer the question or are you gonna sit around and complain

[Timsup2nothin]

okay thesis statement time. @Timsup2nothin give your thesis statement: what you're thinking right now and where you want to vote and what you want other people to know. no more than 100 words. less than 50 preferred

Do your own work. I just said it to Sloonie and JPIC who asked the same question within the past fifty posts.

you could of just said the second part meanie

LOL...Made you haven't even begun to see me get mean...but I am trying very hard to keep that in check.

[Timsup2nothin]

are you gonna answer the question or are you gonna sit around and complain

I am gonna repeatedly say that if you are town you are a waste of space and should just stfu.

[Made]

@TonyStarkPrime trying to get a handle of everything going on. does your view right now basically boil down to "Tim is playing like a mad man who's arguing for weirdly convenient mech information and we should sheep syn on MR, and blast him into the sun if he's wrong"?

[Made]

okay thesis statement time. @Timsup2nothin give your thesis statement: what you're thinking right now and where you want to vote and what you want other people to know. no more than 100 words. less than 50 preferred

Do your own work. I just said it to Sloonie and JPIC who asked the same question within the past fifty posts.

you could of just said the second part meanie

LOL...Made you haven't even begun to see me get mean...but I am trying very hard to keep that in check.

that wasn't a challenge

[Timsup2nothin]

@TonyStarkPrime trying to get a handle of everything going on. does your view right now basically boil down to "Tim is playing like a mad man who's arguing for weirdly convenient mech information and we should sheep syn on MR, and blast him into the sun if he's wrong"?

Is there seriously not a papcorn emoji here?

[Timsup2nothin]

if i were a wolf (not named tsp) I would have thought that tim was going to shoot tsp and let him do his thing

Don't flatter yourself. Sure, blasting you was attractive...up until a flipped cop died screaming "Tim shoot Tutuu!!!!!"

Even for a rube from the hinterlands like me the wolves would think that was pretty compelling, yeah?

i hate you

You know that was just for you, right?

[Made]

@tutuu what's your read on Sloonei

[Made]

I'm starting to sort through the noise here. The main thing we're talking about right now is whether tutuu or Radishes is bad, and why coming from Syn's read of the game and Tim's read of the game. All players are engaging with this argument (some more *ahem* loudly than others) adding points and perspective etc...except for Sloonei, the reining mafia champion.

[Made]

Read the last 3 pages of dat mans iso. Bunch of vegan marshmallow FLUFF

[Justplayingitcool]

if it comes down to MR or tutuu, we should always be yeeting MR before tutuu under any circumstances

[Sloonei]

Read the last 3 pages of dat mans iso. Bunch of vegan marshmallow FLUFF

and proud of it.

[Hyena]

Howdy. <3

[Hyena]

@Hyena Me voting someone is not me going "This person is more scummy than this person" like some formula. It's a place I feel ok going at the moment. All my reasons for suspecting people have been pretty weak or at least felt weak to me due to lack on info (my fault). Ironically, the reads I had that were stronger reasoned was Radish scum D1 (that I left, don't remember when, but preferred Cat after Mac pointed them out) and Radish seemed way better especially since yeeting Marmot. My Cat vote was well reasoned in my mind, funnily enough a strong part of it was me misreading something in their ISO (thought they had said "There's nothing wrong with Alison!" which was a super awkward response that tipped the vote for me, when in fact, that was not what Cat said I noticed when I read for spew lol). My Nanook suspicion was pure gut.

My 112 suspicion has been her handling of me and also equity with Nanook. I'm wary that I could omgus here, cause I do that quite frequently.

My Sloonei suspicion is more interest than anything. But voting Martin and voting generally off wagon for Sloonei specifically does not sit that well with me.

My Wilgy suspicion is not strong. I don't know if I should've voted there tbh.

I also have not paid attention to when days end either. I haven't been all that concerned with who I'm voting as long as it's somewhere I feel reasonably ok with, and maybe I should've or would've changed if I was present at different moments.

Overall, I've had pretty good instincts actually, especially if Radish is scum. Good instinct, and not the best followthrough, is basically the trade mark of my town play lol. You're creating narratives based on theories. There's absolutely no reason why I would be more likely to do the things you bring up as scum more than as town (actually quite the opposite, but I won't press that anymore).

I've been quite happy with how the game is going, followed (what I see as) town players who seems to better know what's going on, been comfortable with general PoE, quarrelled a bit with people who suspects me. I've done the mech things I can to work for town too. So yeah, I've said enough in my defence now, I think. Your choice if you want to listen or not.

Okay. <3

[Made]

Read the last 3 pages of dat mans iso. Bunch of vegan marshmallow FLUFF

and proud of it.

and now you're trying to tilt me? Pappi, baby, you're better than this

[tutuu]

Stop caring about Mac's opinion. He's obviously not following the game anymore.

Jfc some of you practically hero worship him.

Actually he is presenting very solid cases and linking posts and stuff. I think I've already made it abundantly clear that while I am certainly willing to sheep a case I don't sheep a person, ever.

okay but he still drinks piss.

Well, he's Australian, so sure.

That said, he thinks that Tutuu has the most powerful of the wolf roles and that she's the best chance for turning this around, and the people who are hard defending her rather than at least considering the very damning circumstances are just trying to buy her enough time to fire it off.

That includes maybe you, maybe Made, maybe even Syn for tossing Radishes into the grinder as a possible one for one to buy her a couple days.

I don't see why I'm included in that when my original turn-around on Radishes explicitly states w/w equity with tutuu.

Probably just because a "near red check" was probably the only thing that could knock the wheels out from under the Tutuu wagon. I think you are probably town and I think your info is probably good...but I do honestly think this is a case where it would have been towny to keep it to yourself for a day phase.

Tim telling someone else that it would have been better for town to keep it in his pants and not claim