Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

Call your shot...

Poll ended at Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:00 pm

Alison
0
No votes
Dyslexicon
0
No votes
Hyena
0
No votes
JustPlayingitcool
1
5%
Kylemii
0
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Long Con
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No votes
Michelle
6
27%
Syn
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No votes
No yeet
1
5%
EpiDun (Host, Mod, Dead, Specs)
14
64%
 
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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day ends in 7:30 hours im not good at being a leader i need some sanity checks / backups from the rest of the towncore giving opinions on who should we yeet please

i think most / everyone would agree radish is back to town so lets form the real wagons plz
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Michelle wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:48 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:42 am
Michelle wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:40 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:28 am
Kylemii wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:55 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:53 pm Wait actually

Is kyles "mech info on me that im town" the fact that he stole tims shot? Please tell me u have actual mech that im town? Thats not this? @Kylemii
yeah, it's different things
@Michelle


Please read the above and the whole exchange before it
Let's say it again for me, this is what i understand and you will tell me if i am right:
Tim had a shot and said he will kill tutuu.
Kyle stole the shot and killed Nanook.
How this is confirming tutuu as villager? If there is a different thing, i didn't find it
You are correct.

A) It doesn't confirm per se, but it does mean scumreading her for mafia blocking tim's shot is incorrect
B) kyle heavily implied in the exchange that there is something else
I had enough of clearing people based on wrong reasons

@Kylemii please confirm me tutuu is villager and she can't be a godfather, without any other details.
confirmed
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:26 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:19 am Ok. So I really don't know who I want to yeet, or have any strong feelings about it. Sorry. I will try to follow @tutuu and @Jackofhearts2005.

I'm wondering if anyone has a read on Wilgy?
Sloonei seems ok-ish.
Getting cold feet on 112, and she seemed to think Radish was scum when that reveal came. But I don't know.
Haven't followed anything about TSP.
I hope I get the chance to reread Thunal in regards to Hollow today (I'm off to work now and will be there until tonight)

People floating just outside immediate PoE for me is like Ted, Hyena and if I stretch, Made and Michelle?
Something. But would rather follow Jack and Tutu, if they can make out and be friends first.
I’m normally super into Tutuu but I got a stick policy about not making out with wolves.
Michelle wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:34 am If @Jackofhearts2005 finds tutuu town I wish to know because I will follow his read
I do not.
are u aware of kyle claiming that he stole tim's shot and used it to shoot nanook which explains why im alive?

and in addition kyle claiming mech info that im town?

is there any sensible reason left to think im scum?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Maybe i can look at wagons when i go home
Day 1 wagons with all flipped scum should be interesting
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Kylemii wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:27 am
Michelle wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:48 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:42 am
Michelle wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:40 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:28 am
Kylemii wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:55 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:53 pm Wait actually

Is kyles "mech info on me that im town" the fact that he stole tims shot? Please tell me u have actual mech that im town? Thats not this? @Kylemii
yeah, it's different things
@Michelle


Please read the above and the whole exchange before it
Let's say it again for me, this is what i understand and you will tell me if i am right:
Tim had a shot and said he will kill tutuu.
Kyle stole the shot and killed Nanook.
How this is confirming tutuu as villager? If there is a different thing, i didn't find it
You are correct.

A) It doesn't confirm per se, but it does mean scumreading her for mafia blocking tim's shot is incorrect
B) kyle heavily implied in the exchange that there is something else
I had enough of clearing people based on wrong reasons

@Kylemii please confirm me tutuu is villager and she can't be a godfather, without any other details.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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tutuu wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:26 am day ends in 7:30 hours im not good at being a leader i need some sanity checks / backups from the rest of the towncore giving opinions on who should we yeet please

i think most / everyone would agree radish is back to town so lets form the real wagons plz
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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I back a wilgy yeet

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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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tutuu wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:27 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:26 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:19 am Ok. So I really don't know who I want to yeet, or have any strong feelings about it. Sorry. I will try to follow @tutuu and @Jackofhearts2005.

I'm wondering if anyone has a read on Wilgy?
Sloonei seems ok-ish.
Getting cold feet on 112, and she seemed to think Radish was scum when that reveal came. But I don't know.
Haven't followed anything about TSP.
I hope I get the chance to reread Thunal in regards to Hollow today (I'm off to work now and will be there until tonight)

People floating just outside immediate PoE for me is like Ted, Hyena and if I stretch, Made and Michelle?
Something. But would rather follow Jack and Tutu, if they can make out and be friends first.
I’m normally super into Tutuu but I got a stick policy about not making out with wolves.
Michelle wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:34 am If @Jackofhearts2005 finds tutuu town I wish to know because I will follow his read
I do not.
are u aware of kyle claiming that he stole tim's shot and used it to shoot nanook which explains why im alive?

and in addition kyle claiming mech info that im town?

is there any sensible reason left to think im scum?
That first bit would be a game changer as it greatly reduces both the mechanical argument to you being scum and the argument that Kyle is just lying about your alignment because he’s scum.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Why are we giving MR a pass?

Why haven’t we yeeted Alison?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:37 am Why are we giving MR a pass?

Why haven’t we yeeted Alison?
Have you seen Syn revealing all? His 'red check' was all based on Tim shooting tutuu
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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I’ve seen Alison take the town leader role in basically every townrand. Itg, I don’t think I’ve even seen her post once.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:38 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:37 am Why are we giving MR a pass?

Why haven’t we yeeted Alison?
Have you seen Syn revealing all? His 'red check' was all based on Tim shooting tutuu
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How the fuck does that work?

Also, why couldn’t they do this yesterday and reduce the “Jack makes an ass of himself” level?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:37 am Why are we giving MR a pass?

Why haven’t we yeeted Alison?
alison redirects votes to her target. if we want to we can yeet her since her target falcon is dead. however she has been honest and she has done nothing but help town, she is an asset. i refuse to yeet her

as for syn, he full claimed. iso him and u will find out. the thing on radish is no longer valid. i could write it for u and i do have some blame in spamming the thread which makes it harder for everyone to catch up but, u could also just iso him i think distributing the effort between ppl is more fair :p
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:39 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:38 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:37 am Why are we giving MR a pass?

Why haven’t we yeeted Alison?
Have you seen Syn revealing all? His 'red check' was all based on Tim shooting tutuu
:evileye:

How the fuck does that work?

Also, why couldn’t they do this yesterday and reduce the “Jack makes an ass of himself” level?
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I'm a universal backup for the chop. I can use whoever gets chopped's ability the same night. One-time use, cannot holster an ability for later. The wolf abilities being used the night after a wolf has died is pure coincidence: they were the chops, so those were the abilities I got to use. I can't use NKs.

So N1 I used Cat's silence on Sloonei. Reason: For the hell of it. Post rationalization was that I wanted to see what people would do with a silenced Sloonei, who has been an ultra-quick nightkill in every game I've seen and a huge town presence. Would people try to angle it for a chop? (Some people did, but nothing that pinged me as especially scummy.) TBH, I don't think this was useful in any way from a town perspective. Nobody else would have been a better choice, I don't think, but I guess I just don't see the utility of a silence for town. Or maybe I don't grok the gambit side of it. Complete wash. And I think I may have inadvertently encouraged Sloonei to just kick back and chill from that point on, which is a net negative for town if he's also town.

N2 I used Marmot's Tetris challenge on Master Radishes. I do not like Tetris. I hate it. I softed giving Radishes the challenge during D3 when he was saying that the wolves challenged him. "That's not very cash tetris of you" You can ISO this!

Here is why I thought I caught Radishes.

I didn't play my Tetris side. I didn't care about wanting his ability, whatever it is. But I did town-read Radishes after the Marmot flash wagon, and of the people who could gain a roleblock, not be suspicious, and not wake up dead to a NK, Radishes was up there. I thought it was a foregone conclusion that Nutella would be next, so I wasn't gonna challenge her. So I didn't play, meaning no matter how poorly Radishes did, he would win and get a roleblock for N3.

D3 ends and Jack gets chopped. He's a cop. I get his ability, I ask to make sure I know how it works, and I think to myself: Who can I cop-check that won't be the vig shot? Jack at the time flipped shouting that Tutuu had to go, so she was out. Made? Well, Tim really seemed interested in that, and I could see him being difficult, maybe. Well, hey, people are giving Nanook a hard time, so I'll pick him. Put that to bed. He dies. Okay, fine. What the hell is a Joe Pesci anyway?

Jack gets resurrected and he says he thought his ability was a delayed vig. I'm suspicious, but interested, because I targeted Nanook with his ability! But the host didn't say anything about anyone dying, so suss. Seems unlikely.

Then Radishes posts that he didn't get his block. He posts that he lost his match and now the wolves have his ability. A surprise to me, given that I never played, so even submitting a zero would've gotten him the win.

So pieces fall into place for me. Tutuu is still alive. I gave Radishes a block. Tim says his shot failed. And I remembered then that TSP claimed a kill ability that is dependent on picking the right person at night. And Nanook was a goon. Balance-wise, it makes sense that the target for a townie conditional kill would be someone that isn't essential to the wolves. Tie the goon, who can carry the kill but doesn't have any special powers, to this ability. The clouds part. The Simpsons theme starts to play. Lisa has figured it out. Radishes is a wolf who used his block on Tim to protect his teammate Tutuu, and TSP targeted Nanook and it was a hit. Through the power of coincidence, I've set up a one-two punch of guaranteed wolves.

Kylemii having stolen Tim's shot screws that whole thing up. My conclusion on Radish is dependent on the assumption that Tim was blocked; specifically, blocked by the block I gave Radishes. With Tim not blocked, I no longer have reason to think Radishes used it on him, and the rest kind of falls apart. I do think Radishes's response was... bad, and I do think Tutuu is scummy, but my confidence on this being mech-supported is shaky now. Radishes DID lie. That's objectively true. But townies lie all the time (fuck you tim). His response, to me, is scummy, but also understandable if Radishes is town, thinks I'm town and that we were vibing, and now suddenly I'm overly certain he's a catch.

So I don't know where to go from here. I mean, I might still be right, but not in a "lel just trust me, guys" way.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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tutuu wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:27 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:26 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:19 am Ok. So I really don't know who I want to yeet, or have any strong feelings about it. Sorry. I will try to follow @tutuu and @Jackofhearts2005.

I'm wondering if anyone has a read on Wilgy?
Sloonei seems ok-ish.
Getting cold feet on 112, and she seemed to think Radish was scum when that reveal came. But I don't know.
Haven't followed anything about TSP.
I hope I get the chance to reread Thunal in regards to Hollow today (I'm off to work now and will be there until tonight)

People floating just outside immediate PoE for me is like Ted, Hyena and if I stretch, Made and Michelle?
Something. But would rather follow Jack and Tutu, if they can make out and be friends first.
I’m normally super into Tutuu but I got a stick policy about not making out with wolves.
Michelle wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:34 am If @Jackofhearts2005 finds tutuu town I wish to know because I will follow his read
I do not.
are u aware of kyle claiming that he stole tim's shot and used it to shoot nanook which explains why im alive?

and in addition kyle claiming mech info that im town?

is there any sensible reason left to think im scum?
I think you are not aware of the level of paranoia you give me this game

Doesn't matter to have mech infos, we can play with mech shenanigans, I lost few games because of such things.
Also townies like to clear people just because they like them and i reffuse to town read you because i like you.
Until your flip I don't put you out of my poe
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:40 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:39 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:38 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:37 am Why are we giving MR a pass?

Why haven’t we yeeted Alison?
Have you seen Syn revealing all? His 'red check' was all based on Tim shooting tutuu
:evileye:

How the fuck does that work?

Also, why couldn’t they do this yesterday and reduce the “Jack makes an ass of himself” level?
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Syn wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:27 pm ok sure

I'm a universal backup for the chop. I can use whoever gets chopped's ability the same night. One-time use, cannot holster an ability for later. The wolf abilities being used the night after a wolf has died is pure coincidence: they were the chops, so those were the abilities I got to use. I can't use NKs.

So N1 I used Cat's silence on Sloonei. Reason: For the hell of it. Post rationalization was that I wanted to see what people would do with a silenced Sloonei, who has been an ultra-quick nightkill in every game I've seen and a huge town presence. Would people try to angle it for a chop? (Some people did, but nothing that pinged me as especially scummy.) TBH, I don't think this was useful in any way from a town perspective. Nobody else would have been a better choice, I don't think, but I guess I just don't see the utility of a silence for town. Or maybe I don't grok the gambit side of it. Complete wash. And I think I may have inadvertently encouraged Sloonei to just kick back and chill from that point on, which is a net negative for town if he's also town.

N2 I used Marmot's Tetris challenge on Master Radishes. I do not like Tetris. I hate it. I softed giving Radishes the challenge during D3 when he was saying that the wolves challenged him. "That's not very cash tetris of you" You can ISO this!

Here is why I thought I caught Radishes.

I didn't play my Tetris side. I didn't care about wanting his ability, whatever it is. But I did town-read Radishes after the Marmot flash wagon, and of the people who could gain a roleblock, not be suspicious, and not wake up dead to a NK, Radishes was up there. I thought it was a foregone conclusion that Nutella would be next, so I wasn't gonna challenge her. So I didn't play, meaning no matter how poorly Radishes did, he would win and get a roleblock for N3.

D3 ends and Jack gets chopped. He's a cop. I get his ability, I ask to make sure I know how it works, and I think to myself: Who can I cop-check that won't be the vig shot? Jack at the time flipped shouting that Tutuu had to go, so she was out. Made? Well, Tim really seemed interested in that, and I could see him being difficult, maybe. Well, hey, people are giving Nanook a hard time, so I'll pick him. Put that to bed. He dies. Okay, fine. What the hell is a Joe Pesci anyway?

Jack gets resurrected and he says he thought his ability was a delayed vig. I'm suspicious, but interested, because I targeted Nanook with his ability! But the host didn't say anything about anyone dying, so suss. Seems unlikely.

Then Radishes posts that he didn't get his block. He posts that he lost his match and now the wolves have his ability. A surprise to me, given that I never played, so even submitting a zero would've gotten him the win.

So pieces fall into place for me. Tutuu is still alive. I gave Radishes a block. Tim says his shot failed. And I remembered then that TSP claimed a kill ability that is dependent on picking the right person at night. And Nanook was a goon. Balance-wise, it makes sense that the target for a townie conditional kill would be someone that isn't essential to the wolves. Tie the goon, who can carry the kill but doesn't have any special powers, to this ability. The clouds part. The Simpsons theme starts to play. Lisa has figured it out. Radishes is a wolf who used his block on Tim to protect his teammate Tutuu, and TSP targeted Nanook and it was a hit. Through the power of coincidence, I've set up a one-two punch of guaranteed wolves.

Kylemii having stolen Tim's shot screws that whole thing up. My conclusion on Radish is dependent on the assumption that Tim was blocked; specifically, blocked by the block I gave Radishes. With Tim not blocked, I no longer have reason to think Radishes used it on him, and the rest kind of falls apart. I do think Radishes's response was... bad, and I do think Tutuu is scummy, but my confidence on this being mech-supported is shaky now. Radishes DID lie. That's objectively true. But townies lie all the time (fuck you tim). His response, to me, is scummy, but also understandable if Radishes is town, thinks I'm town and that we were vibing, and now suddenly I'm overly certain he's a catch.

So I don't know where to go from here. I mean, I might still be right, but not in a "lel just trust me, guys" way.
I love super smart plays that turn out to be wrong.

The only thing left is Radishes lying about losing Tetris. Sure, he didn’t block Tim but it’s still a lie. Have we covered that?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Basically Syn has lost credibility for me in regards MR. I'm sticking with my town read on him.

And MR claimed that he didn't lie, only that his PM was received late. Scum have zero reason to lie in that situation at winning when it would have been called out almost immedietly.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:46 am Basically Syn has lost credibility for me in regards MR. I'm sticking with my town read on him.

And MR claimed that he didn't lie, only that his PM was received late. Scum have zero reason to lie in that situation at winning when it would have been called out almost immedietly.
The only reason would be to hide a block.

Which makes more sense if it’s Tutuu+MR as a wolf team and they blocked Tim.

But presumably, Tutuu is town (report to my place later for makeouts) and Tim wasn’t blocked.

So yeah, I agree there’s not a lot of reason for a wolf MR to lie about that.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Michelle wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:41 am
tutuu wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:27 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:26 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:19 am Ok. So I really don't know who I want to yeet, or have any strong feelings about it. Sorry. I will try to follow @tutuu and @Jackofhearts2005.

I'm wondering if anyone has a read on Wilgy?
Sloonei seems ok-ish.
Getting cold feet on 112, and she seemed to think Radish was scum when that reveal came. But I don't know.
Haven't followed anything about TSP.
I hope I get the chance to reread Thunal in regards to Hollow today (I'm off to work now and will be there until tonight)

People floating just outside immediate PoE for me is like Ted, Hyena and if I stretch, Made and Michelle?
Something. But would rather follow Jack and Tutu, if they can make out and be friends first.
I’m normally super into Tutuu but I got a stick policy about not making out with wolves.
Michelle wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:34 am If @Jackofhearts2005 finds tutuu town I wish to know because I will follow his read
I do not.
are u aware of kyle claiming that he stole tim's shot and used it to shoot nanook which explains why im alive?

and in addition kyle claiming mech info that im town?

is there any sensible reason left to think im scum?
I think you are not aware of the level of paranoia you give me this game

Doesn't matter to have mech infos, we can play with mech shenanigans, I lost few games because of such things.
Also townies like to clear people just because they like them and i reffuse to town read you because i like you.
Until your flip I don't put you out of my poe
kyle stated a mech reason to clear me its not a "i like you" townread...

if i was a hidden godfather that would be a bastard game, i asked in the sign-up thread whether or not the game will be bastard by the definition of "host lying to players or alignment changing midgame" and epi said no, u can check for urself

it is illogical to think im scum unless u think kyle is lying or misunderstood his role. those 2 are the only sensible possibilities where i could be scum

completely disregarding the mech reasons to call me town is just your irrational paranoia michelle, its not on my part. i have nearly 1200 posts i have done tremendous effort to help town, there are plenty of stuff to townread me, a lot of people are finding it easy to call me lock town, and yeah. we are winning hard and im not in a position where i need to convince u to stop tinfoiling me, we have plenty of town votes so u can do as u wish im not that bothered by it
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:45 am I love super smart plays that turn out to be wrong.

The only thing left is Radishes lying about losing Tetris. Sure, he didn’t block Tim but it’s still a lie. Have we covered that?
MR later elaborated that it was a miscommunication i think

something like, he received knowledge that he won 1 hour and 30 min after he stated that he lost but he either didnt communicate on time / didnt at all / didnt communicate clearly

and yeah, syn's and tim's mechanical decisions have been questionable. thank god kyle was here to clean up after their mess
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Like I find that wolves tend to tell the mechanical truth more often than necessary in role madness games under ideas like “I don’t want to be caught lying about my target when the truth of who I targeted ain’t suspicious.”
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:51 am Like I find that wolves tend to tell the mechanical truth more often than necessary in role madness games under ideas like “I don’t want to be caught lying about my target when the truth of who I targeted ain’t suspicious.”
Like unless there’s benefit to MR hiding his roleblock, wolf MR will tend to admit he won Tetris and got a roleblock, making this lie/miscommunication NAI, allowing me to go back to my townlean on MR.
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I tend to think today’s mindset for wolves is

“Fuck fuck fuckity fuck. We lost Nanook. Jack is back. Tutuu didn’t get shot.”

Followed by

“Thank mod all this mechanical talk is centered around two townies. I’m feeling panicky but if I just shut up, town will misyeet and maybe misshoot tonight.”

So I’m interested in yeeting someone on the quieter, sheepish side. (Without really knowing who that is. XD)
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Sheepy like followy, not like sheepish and shy/embarrassed.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:56 am I tend to think today’s mindset for wolves is

“Fuck fuck fuckity fuck. We lost Nanook. Jack is back. Tutuu didn’t get shot.”

Followed by

“Thank mod all this mechanical talk is centered around two townies. I’m feeling panicky but if I just shut up, town will misyeet and maybe misshoot tonight.”

So I’m interested in yeeting someone on the quieter, sheepish side. (Without really knowing who that is. XD)
yep i also thought this earlier since i had TMI on myself

ergo - 112, hollowkat, TSP, wilgy (usual suspect admittedly) etc
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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To be clear,

After 1h 20m of SoD I had not received a PM and mentioned I had lost.

Possibly as a result, I received the PM shortly thereafter.

It was 12:30pm my time which is late for me (I get up at 6) and I saw the PM and laughed to myself but was distracted by tim/tutuu and then just fell asleep.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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And notice the falc kill was announced around that time too.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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tutuu wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:48 am
Michelle wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:41 am
tutuu wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:27 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:26 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:19 am Ok. So I really don't know who I want to yeet, or have any strong feelings about it. Sorry. I will try to follow @tutuu and @Jackofhearts2005.

I'm wondering if anyone has a read on Wilgy?
Sloonei seems ok-ish.
Getting cold feet on 112, and she seemed to think Radish was scum when that reveal came. But I don't know.
Haven't followed anything about TSP.
I hope I get the chance to reread Thunal in regards to Hollow today (I'm off to work now and will be there until tonight)

People floating just outside immediate PoE for me is like Ted, Hyena and if I stretch, Made and Michelle?
Something. But would rather follow Jack and Tutu, if they can make out and be friends first.
I’m normally super into Tutuu but I got a stick policy about not making out with wolves.
Michelle wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:34 am If @Jackofhearts2005 finds tutuu town I wish to know because I will follow his read
I do not.
are u aware of kyle claiming that he stole tim's shot and used it to shoot nanook which explains why im alive?

and in addition kyle claiming mech info that im town?

is there any sensible reason left to think im scum?
I think you are not aware of the level of paranoia you give me this game

Doesn't matter to have mech infos, we can play with mech shenanigans, I lost few games because of such things.
Also townies like to clear people just because they like them and i reffuse to town read you because i like you.
Until your flip I don't put you out of my poe
kyle stated a mech reason to clear me its not a "i like you" townread...

if i was a hidden godfather that would be a bastard game, i asked in the sign-up thread whether or not the game will be bastard by the definition of "host lying to players or alignment changing midgame" and epi said no, u can check for urself

it is illogical to think im scum unless u think kyle is lying or misunderstood his role. those 2 are the only sensible possibilities where i could be scum

completely disregarding the mech reasons to call me town is just your irrational paranoia michelle, its not on my part. i have nearly 1200 posts i have done tremendous effort to help town, there are plenty of stuff to townread me, a lot of people are finding it easy to call me lock town, and yeah. we are winning hard and im not in a position where i need to convince u to stop tinfoiling me, we have plenty of town votes so u can do as u wish im not that bothered by it
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Long Con wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:19 am
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:12 pm Pretty sure the game is ez money if we just yeet Sloonei and LC.
This is probably just scum Wilgy. Where is the reasoning? Does anyone care to hold Wilgy to account for his so-called opinions? Is this "edgy"?
Bad take, you know better LC and this is why you are scum.
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Long Con wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:19 am
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This is probably just scum Wilgy. Where is the reasoning? Does anyone care to hold Wilgy to account for his so-called opinions? Is this "edgy"?
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tutuu wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:26 am day ends in 7:30 hours im not good at being a leader i need some sanity checks / backups from the rest of the towncore giving opinions on who should we yeet please

i think most / everyone would agree radish is back to town so lets form the real wagons plz
guess i haven’t been enough of a broken record
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:50 pm The obvious suspects, Mac and Nutella.

Jack, syn, hyena.
Are these all town reads? Why the bottom three?
Yeh

I think they’re town
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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tutuu wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:29 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
WAH you got me
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:46 am Basically Syn has lost credibility for me in regards MR. I'm sticking with my town read on him.

And MR claimed that he didn't lie, only that his PM was received late. Scum have zero reason to lie in that situation at winning when it would have been called out almost immedietly.
So why not yeet Syn?
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who has a read on TSP?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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lol, there's scum here: tedxtr, Long Con, Justplayingitcool, tutuu
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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DrWilgy wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:53 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:46 am Basically Syn has lost credibility for me in regards MR. I'm sticking with my town read on him.

And MR claimed that he didn't lie, only that his PM was received late. Scum have zero reason to lie in that situation at winning when it would have been called out almost immedietly.
So why not yeet Syn?
There is no way Syn is scum after all that
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:54 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:53 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:46 am Basically Syn has lost credibility for me in regards MR. I'm sticking with my town read on him.

And MR claimed that he didn't lie, only that his PM was received late. Scum have zero reason to lie in that situation at winning when it would have been called out almost immedietly.
So why not yeet Syn?
There is no way Syn is scum after all that
y?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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DrWilgy wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:53 pm lol, there's scum here: tedxtr, Long Con, Justplayingitcool, tutuu
Looks pretty pure to me.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

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Michelle wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:50 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:50 pm The obvious suspects, Mac and Nutella.

Jack, syn, hyena.
Are these all town reads? Why the bottom three?
Yeh

I think they’re town
Who played with mafia!Nanook, is he the kind of mafia to put 5 townies in a post? I mean, I see the agenda here, a push for Mac and Nutella.
I TR both Syn and Hyena
There's no pattern to Nanook. I've scummed with him twice and one time he scum read me and the other he hard townread me even when others didn't.
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DrWilgy wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:03 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:19 am
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:12 pm Pretty sure the game is ez money if we just yeet Sloonei and LC.
This is probably just scum Wilgy. Where is the reasoning? Does anyone care to hold Wilgy to account for his so-called opinions? Is this "edgy"?
Bad take, you know better LC and this is why you are scum.
I don't think I have ever correctly been told that I "know better than this" in Mafia. Trust me, I don't know better. I don't even know what angle you're taking here. Are you saying "well this is how Wilgy always plays, so it's NAI"?
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DrWilgy wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:55 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:54 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:53 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:46 am Basically Syn has lost credibility for me in regards MR. I'm sticking with my town read on him.

And MR claimed that he didn't lie, only that his PM was received late. Scum have zero reason to lie in that situation at winning when it would have been called out almost immedietly.
So why not yeet Syn?
There is no way Syn is scum after all that
y?
The dude was convinced that he caught scum, and now his entire theory collapsed which was based off on something else it loses credibility. I don't think scum would try and chop somebody with holes in their whole theory, it would be rightly sealed with very little holes. I don't thin Syn approaches today like that as scum
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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So mechanically town:
Jack, Tutuu, LC, Tim, Kyle

Very likely town:
Made, Syn, Radishes, JPIC, Michelle
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Yeet the rest and let mod sort em out. :noble:
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Wilgy acting like he's the next Heisenberg with how he's approached the last few posts.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Like my mechanicals are not rock-solid. Maybe Marmot targeted a teammate with Tetris on the first use. Maybe Kyle's mech info is absolutely shady and rickety. But it's just... not that way, the mechs are right about me.

Why is Wilgy so hellbent on ignoring both soft-mech and some gameplay indication about me?
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Made wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:56 pm<snip>
Michelle wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:59 am Which champion will you retire today?
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Hyena 3 tutuu, Sloonei, DrWilgy
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tutuu 2 Made, Michelle
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Like how is this wolf LC, @DrWilgy ?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]

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Master Radishes wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:57 pm
Michelle wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:50 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:50 pm The obvious suspects, Mac and Nutella.

Jack, syn, hyena.
Are these all town reads? Why the bottom three?
Yeh

I think they’re town
Who played with mafia!Nanook, is he the kind of mafia to put 5 townies in a post? I mean, I see the agenda here, a push for Mac and Nutella.
I TR both Syn and Hyena
There's no pattern to Nanook. I've scummed with him twice and one time he scum read me and the other he hard townread me even when others didn't.
ok, then I take the 2 as probably townies for now, thinking that in such a big game Nanook would need to pocket few people
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