Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[tedxtr]

lol, there's scum here: tedxtr, Long Con, Justplayingitcool, tutuu

i think i know the answer, but are you telling me if i go into your iso and type any of these names it's gonna come up with a push on any of them?

[Michelle]

<snip>

Which champion will you retire today?
Poll runs till Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:00 am

112 1 Thunal33
Alison 2 falcon45ca, Hyena
DrWilgy 2 MacDougall, nutella
Hyena 3 tutuu, Sloonei, DrWilgy
Made 1 cat
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 1 112
nutella 1 Syn
tutuu 2 Made, Michelle
No vote 2 TonyStarkPrime, Timsup2nothin

Nutella and Mac scum read early in the game Dr.W, i don't think I need to dig too much to vote there now

[VOTE: Dr.W] aubergine

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Please determine the next elimination candidate.
Poll runs till Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


112
2
7%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, Dyslexicon
Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
5
18%
Voters: tedxtr, Long Con, Justplayingitcool, Michelle, tutuu
Dyslexicon
1
4%
Voters: 112
Hyena
0
No votes
Voters: None
JackofHearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
JustPlayingitcool
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
1
4%
Voters: DrWilgy
Made
0
No votes
Voters: None
MartinGG99
0
No votes
Voters: None
Master Radishes
5
18%
Voters: Sloonei, Jackofhearts2005, Syn, Kylemii, Made
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
This space is intentionally left blank
1
4%
Voters: Master Radishes
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
Syn
0
No votes
Voters: None
hollowkatt
0
No votes
Voters: None
Timsup2nothin
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
2
7%
Voters: Timsup2nothin, MartinGG99
tedxtr
0
No votes
Voters: None
tutuu
0
No votes
Voters: None
No vote
2
7%
Voters: Alison, hollowkatt
No elimination
0
No votes
Voters: None
Freewill doesn't exist in the way you think it does! (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
9
32%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, nutella, juliets, c4e5g3d5, Marmot, MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, dunya, Epignosis
Total votes: 28

VC

[Kylemii]

I tend to think today’s mindset for wolves is

“Fuck fuck fuckity fuck. We lost Nanook. Jack is back. Tutuu didn’t get shot.”

Followed by

“Thank mod all this mechanical talk is centered around two townies. I’m feeling panicky but if I just shut up, town will misyeet and maybe misshoot tonight.”

So I’m interested in yeeting someone on the quieter, sheepish side. (Without really knowing who that is. )

seconded

[DrWilgy]

Pretty sure the game is ez money if we just yeet Sloonei and LC.

This is probably just scum Wilgy. Where is the reasoning? Does anyone care to hold Wilgy to account for his so-called opinions? Is this "edgy"?

Bad take, you know better LC and this is why you are scum.

I don't think I have ever correctly been told that I "know better than this" in Mafia. Trust me, I don't know better. I don't even know what angle you're taking here. Are you saying "well this is how Wilgy always plays, so it's NAI"?

I get that you don't know better. Perhaps the better way to say this is that I think this is unlike you.

Generally you and I have the same wave when we are town. Parse what information we have until the picture has narrowed down until we can shift into Maximum Overdrive. You and I are late game players.

Your sus on me for that matter seems off meta my dood.

[DrWilgy]

lol, there's scum here: tedxtr, Long Con, Justplayingitcool, tutuu

i think i know the answer, but are you telling me if i go into your iso and type any of these names it's gonna come up with a push on any of them?

LC and JPIC I've had scumleans on.

[tedxtr]

Your sus on me for that matter seems off meta my dood.

it's day 4, how is his meta assessment "off"?

[DrWilgy]

<snip>

Which champion will you retire today?
Poll runs till Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:00 am

112 1 Thunal33
Alison 2 falcon45ca, Hyena
DrWilgy 2 MacDougall, nutella
Hyena 3 tutuu, Sloonei, DrWilgy
Made 1 cat
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 1 112
nutella 1 Syn
tutuu 2 Made, Michelle
No vote 2 TonyStarkPrime, Timsup2nothin

Nutella and Mac scum read early in the game Dr.W, i don't think I need to dig too much to vote there now

[VOTE: Dr.W] aubergine

Darnnit Michelle. You qtpatootie, can't even sus you when you throw such a bad vote.

'I'll sheep these people' - qt

[Justplayingitcool]

lol, there's scum here: tedxtr, Long Con, Justplayingitcool, tutuu

i think i know the answer, but are you telling me if i go into your iso and type any of these names it's gonna come up with a push on any of them?

LC and JPIC I've had scumleans on.

Explain your read and why

[DrWilgy]

Your sus on me for that matter seems off meta my dood.

it's day 4, how is his meta assessment "off"?

LC's been gunning for me d1 and the evolution seems incorrect per his normal mindset.

[tedxtr]

and LC is just a villager, so one of your only pushes being a villager doesn't look too good

[Syn]

i voted wilgy d3 so I guess I'll just go back to the old process and pretend today never happened

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

[DrWilgy]

This entire exchange is bs

if you say so

let's yeet you! [VOTE: JPIC] aubergine

let's not. because that would be fucking dumb

Nah. I got no reasons to town read you.

explain your read on me then, in detail

Lol, you expect that out of me?

I have no reason to think you are town, and there's a bs conversation between you and a very hard wolf lean? A civ doesn't gain anything from that conversation. A wolf gets posts and it's free.

Null+Wolf line?

@Justplayingitcool this is what left a bad taste in my mouth for you JPIC. Just kinda lingered after that.

[DrWilgy]

and LC is just a villager, so one of your only pushes being a villager doesn't look too good

Why is LC just a villager?

[tedxtr]

Your sus on me for that matter seems off meta my dood.

it's day 4, how is his meta assessment "off"?

LC's been gunning for me d1 and the evolution seems incorrect per his normal mindset.

yeah but he's very likely cleared on mechanics and i can't believe you'd have him so strongly as a wolf if you've actually opened his iso

his interaction with me is probably one of the easier reads in the game

and that was...d2? so in between d2 and right now what have you done with your scum reads?

[DrWilgy]

Oh well.

Legacy:
Yeet LC, Yeet Michelle.

Throw Sloonei overboard if I'm wrong on both of these.

Good Luck! <3

[DrWilgy]

Your sus on me for that matter seems off meta my dood.

it's day 4, how is his meta assessment "off"?

LC's been gunning for me d1 and the evolution seems incorrect per his normal mindset.

yeah but he's very likely cleared on mechanics and i can't believe you'd have him so strongly as a wolf if you've actually opened his iso

his interaction with me is probably one of the easier reads in the game

and that was...d2? so in between d2 and right now what have you done with your scum reads?

Lol, I stopped reading after d2 until early this morning. I'm now reading as I go between work to glean information.

Talk to me about this mechanical clearing.

[tedxtr]

cmon wilgy you're not even reading the thread, villager you usually has ideas about what's going on

can't tell if you're going for the derp strats or if you actually haven't read the thread in either role, but gonna say it's slightly wolfy too since i think you like solving the puzzle and are more passionate about pushes

[DrWilgy]

cmon wilgy you're not even reading the thread, villager you usually has ideas about what's going on

can't tell if you're going for the derp strats or if you actually haven't read the thread in either role, but gonna say it's slightly wolfy too since i think you like solving the puzzle and are more passionate about pushes

I like solving the puzzle with information that I have.

Given the ability to glean more data then sure. RN that's not possible.

[Justplayingitcool]

Your read on me is from a set of interactions in D1. If that completely discredits the rest of my posts, then OK

[tedxtr]

Your sus on me for that matter seems off meta my dood.

it's day 4, how is his meta assessment "off"?

LC's been gunning for me d1 and the evolution seems incorrect per his normal mindset.

yeah but he's very likely cleared on mechanics and i can't believe you'd have him so strongly as a wolf if you've actually opened his iso

his interaction with me is probably one of the easier reads in the game

and that was...d2? so in between d2 and right now what have you done with your scum reads?

Lol, I stopped reading after d2 until early this morning. I'm now reading as I go between work to glean information.

Talk to me about this mechanical clearing.

loooooool

he was targeted by the flipped scum's ability and he claimed it itt without getting any counterclaims

plus, he's just a villager, idek what you're scum reading him on

[DrWilgy]

Back to my ask, what's LC's mechanical clear.

What's Michelle's status?

[Jackofhearts2005]

My faith in Wilgy’s townieness is somewhat diminished this phase.

[DrWilgy]

Your read on me is from a set of interactions in D1. If that completely discredits the rest of my posts, then OK

gut bro.

[DrWilgy]

My faith in Wilgy’s townieness is somewhat diminished this phase.

[Justplayingitcool]

and LC is just a villager, so one of your only pushes being a villager doesn't look too good

Why is LC just a villager?

Because he was hit with the marmot tetris role, and no one else has cc'd!

If scum decided to hit LC for the 101 Galaxy brain strats then lol

[Kylemii]

I am uncomfortable being widely town read for mechanical reasons so here is some chewable tinfoil to quickly rectify that situation:

Maybe I am teammates with Made and/or Tutuu or/or someone else and I yoinked the yeetus to protect one or both of them while also night yeeting nanook for fun and towncred.

thank u for coming to my TED talk now put me back in the light green or yellow please this game is going to fuck me up for meta reads in future games if u dont and I really can't afford that

[DrWilgy]

I don't even know Marmot's power. Y'all making me find this shit.

[tedxtr]

I am uncomfortable being widely town read for mechanical reasons

you gots a 3p wincon that requires you to be alive in order to attain it?

[DrWilgy]

Oh. NVM guess LC's just a civ and I'm wrong.

[DrWilgy]

I don't think Marmot would holster a power like that either.

[tedxtr]

Oh. NVM guess LC's just a civ and I'm wrong.

so it took you 2 minutes to look into his iso but you didn't do it in 2 dayphases from d2 to d4?

cmon, no way this is village wilgy

[Justplayingitcool]

Derp clear denied.

[tedxtr]

and how did you even find all that info in such a little time in order to clear him?

lmao

[DrWilgy]

Moving vote to MR for now.

Someone talk to me about what mechanically we have. It'll be very unlikely that I catch up.

Again, what's Michelle's status?

[DrWilgy]

Oh. NVM guess LC's just a civ and I'm wrong.

so it took you 2 minutes to look into his iso but you didn't do it in 2 dayphases from d2 to d4?

cmon, no way this is village wilgy

I didn't. I clicked Epi's name and scrolled to Marmot's reveal.

Then realized with a power like that and multiple people saying no one has contested, It makes sense that he's civ.

Nothing more than a host post and this page was read.

[tedxtr]

Moving vote to MR for now.

Someone talk to me about what mechanically we have. It'll be very unlikely that I catch up.

Again, what's Michelle's status?

michelle is only posting vc afaict, starting to lose that early towncred

and clears are lc aaaand that's it?

[DrWilgy]

Like, for LC to be scum after reading the host post, both you and JPIC would either have to be in on it or be tricked as well. I don't think that's right.

[tedxtr]

and jack, probably

[DrWilgy]

Talk to me more about the Syn thing JPIC?

I don't have the context re what made you lose confidence in them.

@Kylemii, you stated you were mech cleared. Why?

[DrWilgy]

and jack, probably

Because of the phase out then in thing?

[Justplayingitcool]

Moving vote to MR for now.

Someone talk to me about what mechanically we have. It'll be very unlikely that I catch up.

Again, what's Michelle's status?

michelle is only posting vc afaict, starting to lose that early towncred

and clears are lc aaaand that's it?

Kyle is pretty much clear for shooting nanook,
Tim is cleared for vig reasons
Kyle also claims mech info that tutuu is town

[tedxtr]

kylemii is most likely some 3p, i hope he's the arso

most of his claim doesn't make any sense whatsoever

[DrWilgy]

Moving vote to MR for now.

Someone talk to me about what mechanically we have. It'll be very unlikely that I catch up.

Again, what's Michelle's status?

michelle is only posting vc afaict, starting to lose that early towncred

and clears are lc aaaand that's it?

Kyle is pretty much clear for shooting nanook,
Tim is cleared for vig reasons
Kyle also claims mech info that tutuu is town

Thank you.

Any contest to this in general or is this all non-contested information?

Also where does Sloonei sit?

[tedxtr]

Moving vote to MR for now.

Someone talk to me about what mechanically we have. It'll be very unlikely that I catch up.

Again, what's Michelle's status?

michelle is only posting vc afaict, starting to lose that early towncred

and clears are lc aaaand that's it?

Kyle is pretty much clear for shooting nanook,
Tim is cleared for vig reasons
Kyle also claims mech info that tutuu is town

oh look he also has a kill action, which now fits even more with my theory

greaaaat

[Justplayingitcool]

Talk to me more about the Syn thing JPIC?

I don't have the context re what made you lose confidence in them.

@Kylemii, you stated you were mech cleared. Why?

Don't be mistaken, I still firmly town read Syn. However, Syn's messy mech shenanigans and reasons for scum reading Radishes loses credibility for me, meaning Radishes goes back to one of my top townreads.

[Justplayingitcool]

Moving vote to MR for now.

Someone talk to me about what mechanically we have. It'll be very unlikely that I catch up.

Again, what's Michelle's status?

michelle is only posting vc afaict, starting to lose that early towncred

and clears are lc aaaand that's it?

Kyle is pretty much clear for shooting nanook,
Tim is cleared for vig reasons
Kyle also claims mech info that tutuu is town

oh look he also has a kill action, which now fits even more with my theory

greaaaat

He claimed to steal the kill from tim

[tedxtr]

at least he didn't lie about being op, unlike the lie about the posting restriction

[Long Con]

Pretty sure the game is ez money if we just yeet Sloonei and LC.

This is probably just scum Wilgy. Where is the reasoning? Does anyone care to hold Wilgy to account for his so-called opinions? Is this "edgy"?

Bad take, you know better LC and this is why you are scum.

I don't think I have ever correctly been told that I "know better than this" in Mafia. Trust me, I don't know better. I don't even know what angle you're taking here. Are you saying "well this is how Wilgy always plays, so it's NAI"?

I get that you don't know better. Perhaps the better way to say this is that I think this is unlike you.

Generally you and I have the same wave when we are town. Parse what information we have until the picture has narrowed down until we can shift into Maximum Overdrive. You and I are late game players.

Your sus on me for that matter seems off meta my dood.

Not really. I'm not in Maximum Overdrive. My meta isn't one where I don't give any suspicions before lategame.

Pretty sure my meta is to suspect people for not-rock-solid reasons, if we're looking into it? I don't usually make big cases like some great players, and when I do put something larger together about a person, it's a reaction piece to going through their ISO. I haven't gone through your ISO, but, nor am I pushing you very hard at all. I just said "Why not Wilgy"? Right?

[Justplayingitcool]

Moving vote to MR for now.

Someone talk to me about what mechanically we have. It'll be very unlikely that I catch up.

Again, what's Michelle's status?

michelle is only posting vc afaict, starting to lose that early towncred

and clears are lc aaaand that's it?

Kyle is pretty much clear for shooting nanook,
Tim is cleared for vig reasons
Kyle also claims mech info that tutuu is town

Thank you.

Any contest to this in general or is this all non-contested information?

Also where does Sloonei sit?

Non-contested info.

Sloonei is no longer a strong town read now that we know syn was behind the silence. However, I still TR sloonei regardless of that because his reaction to finding out the silence didn't come from mafia felt real, and not faked.