Magic the Gathering Mafia - Game Over - Mafia has won!

[Epignosis]

Why did MacDougall say I made a logical post in my favor and then proceed to vote for me anyway?

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

[Justplayingitcool]

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Chop is reversed

[Epignosis]

I called ted a shitty lynch option, gave rational reasons why, and then had Marmot's hand and my hand forced to save me.

I gave rational reasons why I can't be mafia ("I gave Guillotine six mana, named the colors, how can I do this if I'm mafia") and five people still voted for me.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Chop is reversed

I don't care. I'm making a point. I'll move my vote later.

[Epignosis]

I do not know why Jack or Urist voted for me. Long Con's vote was also especially smelly.

None of them answered how I could award six mana to one person (now you know).

Falcon probably still has a hard on for me but so it goes. At least Falcon gave an explanation that made sense (even if it was grasping at straws).

[Epignosis]

I have further things to say. I must find strength in rations from the nearby tavern. And ale. Much ale. RIP brother.

[Guillotine]

Mac is mafia. Dont vote today for that guy.

Hollowkatt is too.

I’ve been marked and i can only post 10 times today. So im gonna dip out.

[Epignosis]

Mac is mafia. Dont vote today for that guy.

Hollowkatt is too.

I’ve been marked and i can only post 10 times today. So im gonna dip out.

Vote for me, s'il vous plait.

[Guillotine]

Mac is mafia. Dont vote today for that guy.

Hollowkatt is too.

I’ve been marked and i can only post 10 times today. So im gonna dip out.

Vote for me, s'il vous plait.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

[Epignosis]

Mac is mafia. Dont vote today for that guy.

Hollowkatt is too.

I’ve been marked and i can only post 10 times today. So im gonna dip out.

Vote for me, s'il vous plait.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine

[hollowkatt]

ripperoni Ted Sorry

[hollowkatt]

Mac is mafia. Dont vote today for that guy.

Hollowkatt is too.

I’ve been marked and i can only post 10 times today. So im gonna dip out.

I'm not tho

[hollowkatt]

[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

[Long Con]

I do not know why Jack or Urist voted for me. Long Con's vote was also especially smelly.

None of them answered how I could award six mana to one person (now you know).

That doesn't make sense. I assumed your powers had some way to... just send six mana. The method through which you sent it wasn't really in doubt and I don't think anyone really cared to hypothesize what might or might be on your card.

Why should we have assumed that it was connected to your alignment?

[Epignosis]

Mac is mafia. Dont vote today for that guy.

Hollowkatt is too.

I’ve been marked and i can only post 10 times today. So im gonna dip out.

Vote for me, s'il vous plait.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Poll, mate. Don't forget the poll.

[Epignosis]

I do not know why Jack or Urist voted for me. Long Con's vote was also especially smelly.

None of them answered how I could award six mana to one person (now you know).

That doesn't make sense. I assumed your powers had some way to... just send six mana. The method through which you sent it wasn't really in doubt and I don't think anyone really cared to hypothesize what might or might be on your card.

Why should we have assumed that it was connected to your alignment?

Do you really think a mafia member can send six mana to another person?

[Epignosis]

At present, Mac and LC are the fools we should punish.

There's something else I want to talk about. After a sensible dinner.

[Justplayingitcool]

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

[Long Con]

I do not know why Jack or Urist voted for me. Long Con's vote was also especially smelly.

None of them answered how I could award six mana to one person (now you know).

That doesn't make sense. I assumed your powers had some way to... just send six mana. The method through which you sent it wasn't really in doubt and I don't think anyone really cared to hypothesize what might or might be on your card.

Why should we have assumed that it was connected to your alignment?

Do you really think a mafia member can send six mana to another person?

Did you really personally send six mana to another person?

[Epignosis]

I do not know why Jack or Urist voted for me. Long Con's vote was also especially smelly.

None of them answered how I could award six mana to one person (now you know).

That doesn't make sense. I assumed your powers had some way to... just send six mana. The method through which you sent it wasn't really in doubt and I don't think anyone really cared to hypothesize what might or might be on your card.

Why should we have assumed that it was connected to your alignment?

Do you really think a mafia member can send six mana to another person?

Did you really personally send six mana to another person?

Nope. I lied.

But from the perspective of the other person, I told the truth.

What do you care if I personally send six mana to another person?

[Long Con]

I do not know why Jack or Urist voted for me. Long Con's vote was also especially smelly.

None of them answered how I could award six mana to one person (now you know).

That doesn't make sense. I assumed your powers had some way to... just send six mana. The method through which you sent it wasn't really in doubt and I don't think anyone really cared to hypothesize what might or might be on your card.

Why should we have assumed that it was connected to your alignment?

Do you really think a mafia member can send six mana to another person?

Did you really personally send six mana to another person?

Nope. I lied.

But from the perspective of the other person, I told the truth.

What do you care if I personally send six mana to another person?

I just really think a mafia member can send six mana to another person. Same way you guys did it. Why do you think they can't?

[hollowkatt]

I mean my reads are shit to just sheep Epi

[hollowkatt]

I do not know why Jack or Urist voted for me. Long Con's vote was also especially smelly.

None of them answered how I could award six mana to one person (now you know).

That doesn't make sense. I assumed your powers had some way to... just send six mana. The method through which you sent it wasn't really in doubt and I don't think anyone really cared to hypothesize what might or might be on your card.

Why should we have assumed that it was connected to your alignment?

Do you really think a mafia member can send six mana to another person?

Did you really personally send six mana to another person?

Nope. I lied.

But from the perspective of the other person, I told the truth.

What do you care if I personally send six mana to another person?

I just really think a mafia member can send six mana to another person. Same way you guys did it. Why do you think they can't?

there's like one (maybe two?) MTG cards I can think of that show a familial relationship like that which has flipped. I think there's a bro/sis and a husband/wife? Having two in this game seems like a stretch, I think you're barking up the wrong tree LC

[Epignosis]

I do not know why Jack or Urist voted for me. Long Con's vote was also especially smelly.

None of them answered how I could award six mana to one person (now you know).

That doesn't make sense. I assumed your powers had some way to... just send six mana. The method through which you sent it wasn't really in doubt and I don't think anyone really cared to hypothesize what might or might be on your card.

Why should we have assumed that it was connected to your alignment?

Do you really think a mafia member can send six mana to another person?

Did you really personally send six mana to another person?

Nope. I lied.

But from the perspective of the other person, I told the truth.

What do you care if I personally send six mana to another person?

I just really think a mafia member can send six mana to another person. Same way you guys did it. Why do you think they can't?

I don't think they can because I lied when I said I did it.

I did it to clear myself to Guillotine. I think I was successful.

What makes you think mafia can send six mana to another person?

And if you believe that, why send six mana to Guillotine?

[Epignosis]

Some questions:
@MacDougall
Do you find tedxtr scummy independent of interactions with other players? Are you still sheeping dunya's read on him?
Also, can you be more specific about what "kills" are in the context of your role? Is it all damaging abilities or just Pack of Wolves?

@Marmot
Why vote for Wilgy at all, if you know the claim is BS because of the rules and because of the way he is? I don't see why you wouldn't just disregard the claim entirely, it was clearly fake so I don't know how you would have expected him to clarify it for you.
Also, what do you think about Made flipping town, the EoD wagon shenanigans, and the people who voted for Made? How do you feel about tedxtr and the people voting for him today?

@Long Con
Your complaint that I don't have much content outside of tedxtr or falcon is accurate, but unfair, considering most of my posts are from d0 or the first 24h of d1. I spent a lot of time basically waiting for ted to come into the thread, and then once he started posting I felt better about him, but didn't have a ton of time to pursue my Marmot read. I do think it's natural to spend some time discussing the mechanics of the setup on early d1 though, just to ensure that everyone understands the setup in at least a general sense. You're one of my strongest town reads at the moment so I hope you can come around to seeing that I'm town as well. I'm getting the feeling that the mafia lie in the players whom are difficult to execute, so I think we're going to need to not be lazy here, and work to form strong mutual town reads where possible.

@tedxtr
I think I've explained why I felt that you were a wolf who thought that town started with fewer than three lands, but I can explain in more depth if you'd like. I'm not sure it's really worth restarting that avenue of discussion, but let me know.

@112
Are your posts toward tedxtr serious? Specifically, #1601 & #1603.

@dunya
Why specifically do you continue to town-read Marmot? How do you feel about his reads, as well as his votes on Wilgy and 112?

@hollowkatt
Do you have any scum reads aside from ted? Can you give me some potential pairings? And if ted flips town, what will you do?

@falcon45ca
I don't think it's valuable to reveal your target. Let the mafia use Lifescope if they want to know.

@Justplayingitcool
Have your reads changed at all now that Made has flipped town?

---

Some comments (mostly my own notes, no response necessary for these, self-iso is the best crossplatform notepad):
I need to ruminate on Mac's turnaround on dunya. I don't love it. My problem with it is that, if Mac was expecting a scum-dunya to think he's a prime kill target, why is it ok for town-dunya to not think that? Because clearly she didn't, if she targeted him with a gifting ability. Also, I don't think that claiming either the block or that she targeted Mac is a strong tell, or at least not one strong enough to overturn what appeared to be a lock scum read. There might be something here that could be worth exploring at a later time.

I really dislike #1422 of falcon on Epi. I don't see what falcon is getting at or how his questions could be AI. The post looks distancy. In fact, the whole exchange on that page between the two of them just feels off, like insulting each other for the sake of doing so. Do they have a vendetta or something?

#1462 dunya is sheeping Mac on ted when Mac's stated reason for voting ted is that dunya is mafia with ted. I don't get this.

Marmot #1526 looks like a fake reason to show suspicion of 112. I feel like 112's posts accusing dunya and Epi were transparently jokish / sarcastic. Also, at the time of Marmot's post, Mac had already shaded both Epi and dunya earlier in the day, so it's strange that only 112 faces this accusation.

I'm uncomfortable with hollowkatt repeatedly claiming credit for the ted wagon before he's flipped. I don't think it's alignment-indicative right now, but I'm noting this for later.

falcon townread has basically totally evaporated as of #1666. Lots and lots of questions with zero stances.

#1696 hollowkatt says she suspects both myself and tedxtr. She suspects tedxtr for the mech discussion, which I spurred. This doesn't seem like a logical or town mindset, I would expect anyone who thinks ted is scum based on the mech talk to think I'm town for bringing it up.

#1732 Guillotine voting Epi over a misunderstanding looks really awful for him. Very opportunistic vote.

It's good to see some more involved takes from you, but I'm not sure they're all legit. Some of them, it looks like you skimmed an ISO for five seconds just to tack off a box of "yup, I interacted with that player!" For instance, in the same post, you ask Mac if he's still sheeping dunya on ted, and later state that dunya is sheeping Mac on ted. Not sure what to make of that, but it belies the idea that you were thinking cohesively about a solve. That thing about noting hollowkatt's claiming credit for ted feels like lip service to a degree - I don't see what your stance would be if ted flipped town of mafia, just sort of an on-the-fence shade at HK.

What was more important for you when you made this post - posting your real thoughts and feelings and solves, or making sure you checked all the boxes of "I interacted with everyone"?

I'm still reading up, but I'm keeping an eye out for if LC ever followed up on this. This is a lot of shitty accusations, nitpicking, etc. and then LC ended up touting my lynch at the end of the day.

[Long Con]

Both of you, stop this please.

Any two players with BTSC can give six mana to someone. That's my point. I'm not barking up a tree.

[Long Con]

Some questions:
@MacDougall
Do you find tedxtr scummy independent of interactions with other players? Are you still sheeping dunya's read on him?
Also, can you be more specific about what "kills" are in the context of your role? Is it all damaging abilities or just Pack of Wolves?

@Marmot
Why vote for Wilgy at all, if you know the claim is BS because of the rules and because of the way he is? I don't see why you wouldn't just disregard the claim entirely, it was clearly fake so I don't know how you would have expected him to clarify it for you.
Also, what do you think about Made flipping town, the EoD wagon shenanigans, and the people who voted for Made? How do you feel about tedxtr and the people voting for him today?

@Long Con
Your complaint that I don't have much content outside of tedxtr or falcon is accurate, but unfair, considering most of my posts are from d0 or the first 24h of d1. I spent a lot of time basically waiting for ted to come into the thread, and then once he started posting I felt better about him, but didn't have a ton of time to pursue my Marmot read. I do think it's natural to spend some time discussing the mechanics of the setup on early d1 though, just to ensure that everyone understands the setup in at least a general sense. You're one of my strongest town reads at the moment so I hope you can come around to seeing that I'm town as well. I'm getting the feeling that the mafia lie in the players whom are difficult to execute, so I think we're going to need to not be lazy here, and work to form strong mutual town reads where possible.

@tedxtr
I think I've explained why I felt that you were a wolf who thought that town started with fewer than three lands, but I can explain in more depth if you'd like. I'm not sure it's really worth restarting that avenue of discussion, but let me know.

@112
Are your posts toward tedxtr serious? Specifically, #1601 & #1603.

@dunya
Why specifically do you continue to town-read Marmot? How do you feel about his reads, as well as his votes on Wilgy and 112?

@hollowkatt
Do you have any scum reads aside from ted? Can you give me some potential pairings? And if ted flips town, what will you do?

@falcon45ca
I don't think it's valuable to reveal your target. Let the mafia use Lifescope if they want to know.

@Justplayingitcool
Have your reads changed at all now that Made has flipped town?

---

Some comments (mostly my own notes, no response necessary for these, self-iso is the best crossplatform notepad):
I need to ruminate on Mac's turnaround on dunya. I don't love it. My problem with it is that, if Mac was expecting a scum-dunya to think he's a prime kill target, why is it ok for town-dunya to not think that? Because clearly she didn't, if she targeted him with a gifting ability. Also, I don't think that claiming either the block or that she targeted Mac is a strong tell, or at least not one strong enough to overturn what appeared to be a lock scum read. There might be something here that could be worth exploring at a later time.

I really dislike #1422 of falcon on Epi. I don't see what falcon is getting at or how his questions could be AI. The post looks distancy. In fact, the whole exchange on that page between the two of them just feels off, like insulting each other for the sake of doing so. Do they have a vendetta or something?

#1462 dunya is sheeping Mac on ted when Mac's stated reason for voting ted is that dunya is mafia with ted. I don't get this.

Marmot #1526 looks like a fake reason to show suspicion of 112. I feel like 112's posts accusing dunya and Epi were transparently jokish / sarcastic. Also, at the time of Marmot's post, Mac had already shaded both Epi and dunya earlier in the day, so it's strange that only 112 faces this accusation.

I'm uncomfortable with hollowkatt repeatedly claiming credit for the ted wagon before he's flipped. I don't think it's alignment-indicative right now, but I'm noting this for later.

falcon townread has basically totally evaporated as of #1666. Lots and lots of questions with zero stances.

#1696 hollowkatt says she suspects both myself and tedxtr. She suspects tedxtr for the mech discussion, which I spurred. This doesn't seem like a logical or town mindset, I would expect anyone who thinks ted is scum based on the mech talk to think I'm town for bringing it up.

#1732 Guillotine voting Epi over a misunderstanding looks really awful for him. Very opportunistic vote.

It's good to see some more involved takes from you, but I'm not sure they're all legit. Some of them, it looks like you skimmed an ISO for five seconds just to tack off a box of "yup, I interacted with that player!" For instance, in the same post, you ask Mac if he's still sheeping dunya on ted, and later state that dunya is sheeping Mac on ted. Not sure what to make of that, but it belies the idea that you were thinking cohesively about a solve. That thing about noting hollowkatt's claiming credit for ted feels like lip service to a degree - I don't see what your stance would be if ted flipped town of mafia, just sort of an on-the-fence shade at HK.

What was more important for you when you made this post - posting your real thoughts and feelings and solves, or making sure you checked all the boxes of "I interacted with everyone"?

I'm still reading up, but I'm keeping an eye out for if LC ever followed up on this. This is a lot of shitty accusations, nitpicking, etc. and then LC ended up touting my lynch at the end of the day.

There wasn't enough interest in a Urist wagon yesterday.

[Epignosis]

i don't remember anything about jpic.

why not. you can read my iso if you want

i am. it's...underwhelming. is your wim low?

Mac possible scum

what do you think of epignosis and marmot?

i thought that them calling me scum after 1 or 2 posts was a bit curious

i'm not sure if they had reasons to suspect esooa or if they didn't like my entrance

marmot later recanted and said it would be best to give me some time to enter the game before yeeting me into oblivion, but i think epi just kind of shrugged and voted off of me after a while without giving much in the way of reasoning

i think epi would be a bit more active in trying to get me chopped were it a genuine opinion, but to hedge, it's nothing concrete

marmot could also have been playing the voice of reason when he insisted to give me some air, but i still like him more than epi for it

I laughed at this post, truly.

I have suspicion of 112. I had another tab open but I must've clicked out of it.

Found it. Never mind:

it's true though, isn't it?

can peer into your soul

i've read enough...

have you isod falcon, guillio and ted and come out with falcon and guillio are town and ted is wolf?

something like that

ted could be town and i just have a bad read on him, but i'm pretty confident in the other reads being right

I made a stink face so hard when I read this I looked like MacDougall.

[Epignosis]

Both of you, stop this please.

Any two players with BTSC can give six mana to someone. That's my point. I'm not barking up a tree.

I don't care about that.

You accused me of being mafia even though I claimed to have given six mana to one person.

Why would mafia give six mana to one person?

Falcon gave the only reasonable answer, and I don't even like Falcon (as a civilian): "Epi and Guillo are lying about it and are mafia teammates."

Nobody else has provided a reasonable possibility.

So I don't care that you think any players with BTSC can give six mana to someone.

I care that you called me mafia and voted for me to die when 1) You didn't know I had BTSC, and 2) Giving six mana to another person doesn't seem like it would make sense for a mafia member to do.

[Epignosis]

Y'all really had to fuck with me right before my day off?

Abracadabra, bitches.

[Urist]

Epi, a big part of why I pushed for your execution at EoD was because you were trying to call yourself cleared based on a mechanic that we know nothing about in a role madness game. I still can't imagine why you would send the mana to Guillotine of all people. Even he agreed that it was a bad idea.

Obviously I know now that I was wrong, but I still think it was reasonable to scumread you in that scenario.

I'm going to reread EoD2 tonight with the knowledge that it was TvT, I just wanted to pop in and say the above before you start giving your voters a hard time Epi.

[Epignosis]

Well now it's vote for the person you trust.

I think that's nice. Mafia will have to vote for one another or die. That's a great magical power. Probably requires a lot of mana to execute.

Despite the shitty implications of the "marked" power that has come into play for Guillotine and me, I suspect that belongs to a civilian role and someone who has blown his load this game, someone who suspected the two of us together. It doesn't make sense for mafia to be able to gain an additional kill (I think one of the marks is real and one is fake, given the conditions). If two separate individuals marked the two of us, I would be surprised. I think it's one person, and probably civilian. But boo you. Boo you.

Combining posts because I don't want to have to keep up with post count stuff.

His conclusions don't make sense to me given what I know.

This was regarding ted. I just want to say this:

Chances are good if the person isn't making sense to you early on, that's probably a civilian. Later on, fine. But early on, not making sense is probably an indication the person is fumbling around. Civilians tend to say silly things. Mafia tend to try to keep their noses clean.

I presently don't suspect HK. I think HK believed what HK was posting.

I'm having a hard time reading 112. On one hand, they derpcleared themself and gave a reasonable reason for not being caught up, but on the other hand, they went for the wagon where two of their scumreads are voting: myself and Epi.

Oh the irnony...I was first on that wagon, and you & Epi (both scum reading me IIRC) joined as well, so what does that mean for your take on 112 voting the same wagon as her scum reads when you and Epi are doing the exact same thing?

Epi, a big part of why I pushed for your execution at EoD was because you were trying to call yourself cleared based on a mechanic that we know nothing about in a role madness game. I still can't imagine why you would send the mana to Guillotine of all people. Even he agreed that it was a bad idea.

Obviously I know now that I was wrong, but I still think it was reasonable to scumread you in that scenario.

I'm going to reread EoD2 tonight with the knowledge that it was TvT, I just wanted to pop in and say the above before you start giving your voters a hard time Epi.

I did it to clear myself to Guillotine. I think I was successful.

I'll post now to make it not too burdensome to read.

I'm still going to give people a hard time. That's part of the job.

[Long Con]

Both of you, stop this please.

Any two players with BTSC can give six mana to someone. That's my point. I'm not barking up a tree.

I don't care about that.

You accused me of being mafia even though I claimed to have given six mana to one person.

Why would mafia give six mana to one person?

Falcon gave the only reasonable answer, and I don't even like Falcon (as a civilian): "Epi and Guillo are lying about it and are mafia teammates."

Nobody else has provided a reasonable possibility.

So I don't care that you think any players with BTSC can give six mana to someone.

I care that you called me mafia and voted for me to die when 1) You didn't know I had BTSC, and 2) Giving six mana to another person doesn't seem like it would make sense for a mafia member to do.

Well I don't care about any of that, so have fun with it. It made less sense to me to give all your mana to someone of whom you were guessing an alignment. You keep chewing on this as long as you need to though.

[Epignosis]

Both of you, stop this please.

Any two players with BTSC can give six mana to someone. That's my point. I'm not barking up a tree.

I don't care about that.

You accused me of being mafia even though I claimed to have given six mana to one person.

Why would mafia give six mana to one person?

Falcon gave the only reasonable answer, and I don't even like Falcon (as a civilian): "Epi and Guillo are lying about it and are mafia teammates."

Nobody else has provided a reasonable possibility.

So I don't care that you think any players with BTSC can give six mana to someone.

I care that you called me mafia and voted for me to die when 1) You didn't know I had BTSC, and 2) Giving six mana to another person doesn't seem like it would make sense for a mafia member to do.

Well I don't care about any of that, so have fun with it. It made less sense to me to give all your mana to someone of whom you were guessing an alignment. You keep chewing on this as long as you need to though.

Ah!

That was the scheme.

If some big nasty shit went down in the thread at Night, assuming mafia have additional artifacts and what not, we would know who had the mana to wreak such havoc.

It was our way of clearing ourselves to others while outing mafia we overpowered.

I think it was quite a genius plan if I do say so myself.

[Long Con]

Both of you, stop this please.

Any two players with BTSC can give six mana to someone. That's my point. I'm not barking up a tree.

I don't care about that.

You accused me of being mafia even though I claimed to have given six mana to one person.

Why would mafia give six mana to one person?

Falcon gave the only reasonable answer, and I don't even like Falcon (as a civilian): "Epi and Guillo are lying about it and are mafia teammates."

Nobody else has provided a reasonable possibility.

So I don't care that you think any players with BTSC can give six mana to someone.

I care that you called me mafia and voted for me to die when 1) You didn't know I had BTSC, and 2) Giving six mana to another person doesn't seem like it would make sense for a mafia member to do.

Well I don't care about any of that, so have fun with it. It made less sense to me to give all your mana to someone of whom you were guessing an alignment. You keep chewing on this as long as you need to though.

Ah!

That was the scheme.

If some big nasty shit went down in the thread at Night, assuming mafia have additional artifacts and what not, we would know who had the mana to wreak such havoc.

It was our way of clearing ourselves to others while outing mafia we overpowered.

I think it was quite a genius plan if I do say so myself.

I give it a 4.5/10.

[Epignosis]

PSA:

The mafia control lynch ties.

This is a reverse lynch.

That means you can't just vote me and move on. That's handing the mafia the keys to today. They'll be able to lynch whomever doesn't have a vote. That's garbage.

So use this opportunity. Each person should vote for one trustworthy person that doesn't have a vote. Make the suspects choose among themselves.

[Epignosis]

I've already got Guillotine's vote, so JPIC and HK feel free to vote another trusted person. If we need to double up down the road we will make adjustments.

[Long Con]

I'll put one on [VOTE: dunya] aubergine.

[MacDougall]

Mac is mafia. Dont vote today for that guy.

Hollowkatt is too.

I’ve been marked and i can only post 10 times today. So im gonna dip out.

I'm not tho

I absolutely am not mafia. I thought Marmot and Epi were outed at EOD but clearly not. Good show.

I received two artifacts overnight. I received no additional mana so was unable to boost my thingy. One of my artifacts adds two votes to a named player and that player is Guillo. The other is a thopter and I have nfi what it does.

[MacDougall]

Still think LC and Dunya are mafia. Tedxtr likely partner.

[Long Con]

So Guillo is covered for today.

[hollowkatt]

Spoiler: show

i don't remember anything about jpic.

why not. you can read my iso if you want

i am. it's...underwhelming. is your wim low?

Mac possible scum

what do you think of epignosis and marmot?

i thought that them calling me scum after 1 or 2 posts was a bit curious

i'm not sure if they had reasons to suspect esooa or if they didn't like my entrance

marmot later recanted and said it would be best to give me some time to enter the game before yeeting me into oblivion, but i think epi just kind of shrugged and voted off of me after a while without giving much in the way of reasoning

i think epi would be a bit more active in trying to get me chopped were it a genuine opinion, but to hedge, it's nothing concrete

marmot could also have been playing the voice of reason when he insisted to give me some air, but i still like him more than epi for it

I laughed at this post, truly.

I have suspicion of 112. I had another tab open but I must've clicked out of it.

Found it. Never mind:

it's true though, isn't it?

can peer into your soul

i've read enough...

have you isod falcon, guillio and ted and come out with falcon and guillio are town and ted is wolf?

something like that

ted could be town and i just have a bad read on him, but i'm pretty confident in the other reads being right

I made a stink face so hard when I read this I looked like MacDougall.

I'd go on 112 yeah. Bolas wasn't great, 112 hasn't climbed out of that hole.

[Epignosis]

Forget what I said about Epi.

If you believe I am mafia, explain this exchange:

You know you got six mana.

How am I lying?

Is anyone going to claim that they gave you mana and I didn't give you six?

If I am lying, why would I do that?

I claimed to have received 6 mana ages ago, i assume it came from two different people.

But ok. Besides red mana, what other color did you send me?

Blue.

Im red and black. Your gesture is appreciated but it was useless and put me in danger for PtF. Don't do it again.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

You were never in danger of PtF. That's why I sent it to you.

But I understand your concern.

You are a civilian henceforth.

My explanation is lame.

By my calculations I am now the only person voting for mafia. Fun.

Why did you drop your epi case almost as soon as you'd written it? and why is Ted town?

Bruh.

If I was mafia do you really think I would have?

Because he made a valid point is why.

And I don't have Ted as town.

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

What the fuck, Mac?

[hollowkatt]

PSA:

The mafia control lynch ties.

This is a reverse lynch.

That means you can't just vote me and move on. That's handing the mafia the keys to today. They'll be able to lynch whomever doesn't have a vote. That's garbage.

So use this opportunity. Each person should vote for one trustworthy person that doesn't have a vote. Make the suspects choose among themselves.

Cool, I like Jack for town

[MacDougall]

Forget what I said about Epi.

If you believe I am mafia, explain this exchange:

I claimed to have received 6 mana ages ago, i assume it came from two different people.

But ok. Besides red mana, what other color did you send me?

Blue.

Im red and black. Your gesture is appreciated but it was useless and put me in danger for PtF. Don't do it again.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

You were never in danger of PtF. That's why I sent it to you.

But I understand your concern.

You are a civilian henceforth.

My explanation is lame.

By my calculations I am now the only person voting for mafia. Fun.

Why did you drop your epi case almost as soon as you'd written it? and why is Ted town?

Bruh.

If I was mafia do you really think I would have?

Because he made a valid point is why.

And I don't have Ted as town.

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

What the fuck, Mac?

Yes I thought you were town. I was voting Ted but there were a lot of my town reads voting for you and when I switched to you I was contemplating the idea that you and Guillo had been engaging in w/w theatre as he and I did quite a bit of that in Spiderverse.

Ultimately I was being forced to choose between two town. If I was mafia I'd have been just as content voting Ted and leaving it there than burdening myself with trying to hit between you two.

[MacDougall]

I did just say tedxtr likely mafia partner of LC and Dunya so I mean clearly I am in island vibes and should be held to a lower standard than usual.

[Epignosis]

Forget what I said about Epi.

If you believe I am mafia, explain this exchange:

Blue.

Im red and black. Your gesture is appreciated but it was useless and put me in danger for PtF. Don't do it again.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

You were never in danger of PtF. That's why I sent it to you.

But I understand your concern.

You are a civilian henceforth.

My explanation is lame.

By my calculations I am now the only person voting for mafia. Fun.

Why did you drop your epi case almost as soon as you'd written it? and why is Ted town?

Bruh.

If I was mafia do you really think I would have?

Because he made a valid point is why.

And I don't have Ted as town.

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

What the fuck, Mac?

Yes I thought you were town. I was voting Ted but there were a lot of my town reads voting for you and when I switched to you I was contemplating the idea that you and Guillo had been engaging in w/w theatre as he and I did quite a bit of that in Spiderverse.

Ultimately I was being forced to choose between two town. If I was mafia I'd have been just as content voting Ted and leaving it there than burdening myself with trying to hit between you two.

Okay

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

Lol

So what were you laughing at?

[MacDougall]

Forget what I said about Epi.

If you believe I am mafia, explain this exchange:

Im red and black. Your gesture is appreciated but it was useless and put me in danger for PtF. Don't do it again.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

You were never in danger of PtF. That's why I sent it to you.

But I understand your concern.

You are a civilian henceforth.

My explanation is lame.

By my calculations I am now the only person voting for mafia. Fun.

Why did you drop your epi case almost as soon as you'd written it? and why is Ted town?

Bruh.

If I was mafia do you really think I would have?

Because he made a valid point is why.

And I don't have Ted as town.

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

What the fuck, Mac?

Yes I thought you were town. I was voting Ted but there were a lot of my town reads voting for you and when I switched to you I was contemplating the idea that you and Guillo had been engaging in w/w theatre as he and I did quite a bit of that in Spiderverse.

Ultimately I was being forced to choose between two town. If I was mafia I'd have been just as content voting Ted and leaving it there than burdening myself with trying to hit between you two.

Okay

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

Lol

So what were you laughing at?

I was under the impression Marmot was outing as your partner to save you.

[MacDougall]

Which was true I guess.