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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]
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ratrug] aubergine
That potential TMI slip is really intriguing.
What's the case for today's PoE?
rat rug - TMI, plus inactivity at the beginning of the game, +?
Quin - Bad play on falcon, +?
Seanzie - ?
That potential TMI slip is really intriguing.
What's the case for today's PoE?
rat rug - TMI, plus inactivity at the beginning of the game, +?
Quin - Bad play on falcon, +?
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]
how much stock are we putting into falcon's vote on bo
also I'm reinforcing my reads of nanook town seanzie town
also I'm reinforcing my reads of nanook town seanzie town
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Is TMI a mafia inclusive word or something? I didn’t even mention TMI, bruv. Lol. Are you gonna ignore my case on Nanook?BoKnows wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:48 pmGotcha. Yeah it does look like he knows that esooa is going to flip green. Yeah wow that's really suspect.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:45 pmIt seems like he knows Esooa is going to flip green.BoKnows wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:44 pmI'm not seeing what you're seeingSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:01 pmIs this TMI?Ratrug wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:33 pmPocket attempt denied
Nah just kidding. I went back to read his posts and I was pretty null for the most part and I’m leaning town and hears why.
When you come back, can you tell us your reads actually?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:00 amQuin is one of my strongest townreads
So this is a big swing and a miss
I was right for the wrong reasons that he wasn’t on the Falcon wagon. It wasn’t he was actively wanting to lynch anyone else it’s just he read Falcon town. He wasn’t even on Esooa either. He kinda just forced his hand.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:26 pm So here's the deal
I'm pretty close to passing out
I don't particularly scumread esooa but my vote is kinda pinned cause I do townresd falcon
So if we could find a third option jn the next, idk, 10 minutes, that would be ideal
Like he should know how bad this looks, if he comes back and Esooa is lynched and dies, he’s not gonna look extremely excellent. He’s also town reading me, but nobody is really looking into it either. It would be easy to call me scum, but he goes out of his way to say I’m town. Unless he’s just hamming up being a bad mafia player, but I think he has a lot more self awareness than he’s letting on.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:46 pm Ok i actually am gonna pass out now
Kill mafia so I can take credit tomorrow plz
Ratrug mentions this in a post right afterwards trying to dismiss it as not TMI. I almost think that is worse since I think Town!Ratrug would be less likely than Scum!Ratrug to realize they said something that looks like TMI.
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only thing I don't like about the TMI is that their last known read of esooa is "slight sus" and doesn't mention them in their town reads
so it looks like they realized their own tmi and tried to "fix" it after the fact but that ends up making it look worse
normally I wouldn't read too much into it since town tends to assume their own reads but the context makes it look bad here
so it looks like they realized their own tmi and tried to "fix" it after the fact but that ends up making it look worse
normally I wouldn't read too much into it since town tends to assume their own reads but the context makes it look bad here
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Well if ratrug is lynched and comes back as bad, it would probably look good for Seanzie. I think you guys have been calling it green check? Might be a way to test two top lynch candidates at once.
I personally haven’t felt great about ratrug, but it’s mostly been due to lack of content. I can see how that post highlighted by Seanzie could mean more. (Also how cool is that little light up thing you did there? I had no idea. I wonder what other neat new functions are there that I don’t know about yet) I’m still on the fence about Seanzie. Content still feels good to me, but I understand the suspicion
I personally haven’t felt great about ratrug, but it’s mostly been due to lack of content. I can see how that post highlighted by Seanzie could mean more. (Also how cool is that little light up thing you did there? I had no idea. I wonder what other neat new functions are there that I don’t know about yet) I’m still on the fence about Seanzie. Content still feels good to me, but I understand the suspicion
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I suppose that makes sense. Maybe I just don't experience that sort of thing when I'm scum because I would imagine liking harder stances on wagons and counter wagons especially if they involve a wolf on the wagon or counter-wagon.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:27 amA wolf hiding on a vanity wagon when the top two wagons are town and wolf is common. They don't want to contribute to the death of a teammate but they don't want to be caught pushing a town counterwagon to a wolf either, so they essentially no-vote by voting a vanity wagon that won't go anywhere, and pray the town wagon wins out (at which point they can lead the charge on everyone who was on that wagon).MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:12 amIdk if his voting or defending shows either way, assuming I read the VC history right then at the time he voted Esooa, BK had 2 votes and Esooa only had 1.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:38 pmWhy's this a reason to TR you? Falcon wasn't a goner, he could still have been saved.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:36 pm The more relevant reason to TR me is that I actively defended him instead of bussing
he could've put his vote on a higher wagon but didn't, and Esooa doesn't strike me as the sort of slot that gets commonly day 1'ed for elimination.
I cant make a confident determination about that aspect for him being towny or scummy so I'm going to avoid taking that into my reads for now.
Which means I think he's towny for his early-game sheep, and perhaps during that time he honestly believed Esooa was suspect more than BK and voted there. Its hard to tell though given his ISO barely mentions anything about BK.
I'll take your word for it on probability but I don't think I'm going to apply it here. Nanook doesn't seem like the sort of player to be leading the charge on suspect wagons. The point of suspicion for me is when those charges are being lead; not before those charges even happen.
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What's the connotation you're applying with "dismissive" here, if anything?fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:25 pm Okay rereading Alison and Quin’s posts to get a grasp on it
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:00 pmbite meAlison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:46 pmPretty weak reason to avoid voting for someone you were harsh on earlier.Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:47 pm there is a difference between saying 'i am not going to answer these questions because...' and not interacting with you.
as an aside, just about everything i've read in the seanzie v alison thing has been from your posts. i don't have the time to review it from alison's.
i'm not voting for either of you today.
to be honest, i'm just looking for an excuse not to lynch the birthday boy. please say things that aren't about alison tonight.![]()
Quin says “bite me” then accuses Alison of “being mean”
I don’t think Alison is being mean, but actively scumhunting. She’s probably working the hardest right now
So this feels dismissive.
So this helped me remember now. When the original points came up about Quin, I didn’t find it damning because I was hesitant to vote for Falcon too. The reasons were flimsy, but I could forgive some for being reasonable for day 1. So that’s the biggest difference it seems to me in mine and Quin’s reasoning. Their issue was with the lynch against Falcon itself and the reasons behind it, whereas my major issue had nothing to do with the Falcon aspect of it or the reasonings but simply how the bandwagon was forming.
But Quin’s responses really are leaving something to be desired here. I wouldn’t have been ready to follow Alison’s lead here when the suspicion was originally laid down, but I think I’m going to go there now.
[VOTE: vote quin ] aubergine
If you find that to be scummy for Quin, I would like to know why. Not that dismissive isn't scummy, but generally I think the difference in context as to whether they're being dismissive with regards to subjects about someone else or dismissive with regards to subjects about themselves can be preety important or nuanced.
I can easily see a town, though I don't know Quin, just simply reacting dismissively after providing a simple (even if weak) reason on the basis that they have the full knowledge and confidence that they're town.
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You didn't realize that Alison basically brought up the same thing already? Fairly sure Quin might've already replied to it too before you posted about it.BoKnows wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:41 pmOkay, this has to the post that is universally bad. This comment on Falcon is atrocious and smells even stinkier when falcon flipped red. @Quin can you explain your reasoning behind this at all? What were your thoughts going into EoD day 1?Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:23 pm okay it's 5:20 and i am still awake and that makes me sad so
i'm caught up.
i'm not voting for alison or seanzie until i've given them both proper reading.
nobody is even talking about falcon beyond meta reads and somehow he's the lead wagon. fuck that.
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I'm basically not really seeing anything to it given that I think Bo is town regardless of it.
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Sure. I had her as a scum LEAN very early in the game but that was mostly because how active they were, and how involved they wanted others to get. Bear in mind, this was early in the game and I hadn’t even read the entirety of the thread. Making my post, I read Nanook and Esooa’s back and forth and I felt good about it. You’re highlighting a post by saying TMI but like you’re dismissing the case I had on Nanook originally as well.
I would also like to hear from Quinn and his defense.
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So you're suggesting Ratrug got concerned that this (below) was potential spew/TMI, and therefore even though we shouldn't look into it much maybe we should?ts account wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:22 pm only thing I don't like about the TMI is that their last known read of esooa is "slight sus" and doesn't mention them in their town reads
so it looks like they realized their own tmi and tried to "fix" it after the fact but that ends up making it look worse
normally I wouldn't read too much into it since town tends to assume their own reads but the context makes it look bad here
At glance I wouldn't read it as such, if Ratrug flipped red without making that adjustment.Ratrug wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:54 pm I can’t accurately name the mafia members, as I’m town and don’t know. I can only make an assumption. Esooa, I’d say, the way they’ve been very active and tagging people to things is making me sus, especially since people were giving BK and Seanzie shit for being very loud as well.
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(ftr I'm not reading into it with the potential TMI slip)
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Oh shit.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:44 pmYou didn't realize that Alison basically brought up the same thing already? Fairly sure Quin might've already replied to it too before you posted about it.BoKnows wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:41 pmOkay, this has to the post that is universally bad. This comment on Falcon is atrocious and smells even stinkier when falcon flipped red. @Quin can you explain your reasoning behind this at all? What were your thoughts going into EoD day 1?Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:23 pm okay it's 5:20 and i am still awake and that makes me sad so
i'm caught up.
i'm not voting for alison or seanzie until i've given them both proper reading.
nobody is even talking about falcon beyond meta reads and somehow he's the lead wagon. fuck that.
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Not really sure about the 3 wagons, or if I want to go investigating my other reads more.
I have to think about it more tomorrow a while before EoD, but GTH I wouldn't be surprised if the wagons had 2 towns in them. Maybe even 3.
If I do vote in there it may even just be for solving's sake.
I have to think about it more tomorrow a while before EoD, but GTH I wouldn't be surprised if the wagons had 2 towns in them. Maybe even 3.
If I do vote in there it may even just be for solving's sake.
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Can you maybe quote a few posts from their back and forth that developed your read on Esooa, and try to explain? It really does look like you went from "Esooa sus" to "Esooa lock!town enough that I only judge Nook's vote from a world where Esooa is town, and assume Nook is town prefaced on Esooa being town".Ratrug wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:53 pmSure. I had her as a scum LEAN very early in the game but that was mostly because how active they were, and how involved they wanted others to get. Bear in mind, this was early in the game and I hadn’t even read the entirety of the thread. Making my post, I read Nanook and Esooa’s back and forth and I felt good about it. You’re highlighting a post by saying TMI but like you’re dismissing the case I had on Nanook originally as well.
I would also like to hear from Quinn and his defense.
How am I dismissing what you said about Nanook? I didn't say anything about it. If you want to talk about it so badly though, to be honest, your case on Nanook doesn't make much sense to me. You seem to townread him because he didn't end up on Falcon, and didn't have a strong reason to be on the person he ended up on. I don't really see why this makes him town personally.
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If the wagons are 3 town, GTH who would you guess is mafia?MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:07 pm Not really sure about the 3 wagons, or if I want to go investigating my other reads more.
I have to think about it more tomorrow a while before EoD, but GTH I wouldn't be surprised if the wagons had 2 towns in them. Maybe even 3.
If I do vote in there it may even just be for solving's sake.
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Ok well when someone accuses you in mafia it is then up to you to prove your goodness with your responses. I don’t feel Quinn’s responses are good. Not just the ones I quoted which struck me as particularly unhelpful and trying to paint the situation as something it’s not (Alison being mean), but their responses for the last day as a whole. They’ve still got time to change my mind, but for now I don’t find their responses as good as Seanzie.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:40 pmWhat's the connotation you're applying with "dismissive" here, if anything?fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:25 pm Okay rereading Alison and Quin’s posts to get a grasp on it
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:00 pmbite meAlison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:46 pmPretty weak reason to avoid voting for someone you were harsh on earlier.Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:47 pm there is a difference between saying 'i am not going to answer these questions because...' and not interacting with you.
as an aside, just about everything i've read in the seanzie v alison thing has been from your posts. i don't have the time to review it from alison's.
i'm not voting for either of you today.
to be honest, i'm just looking for an excuse not to lynch the birthday boy. please say things that aren't about alison tonight.![]()
Quin says “bite me” then accuses Alison of “being mean”
I don’t think Alison is being mean, but actively scumhunting. She’s probably working the hardest right now
So this feels dismissive.
So this helped me remember now. When the original points came up about Quin, I didn’t find it damning because I was hesitant to vote for Falcon too. The reasons were flimsy, but I could forgive some for being reasonable for day 1. So that’s the biggest difference it seems to me in mine and Quin’s reasoning. Their issue was with the lynch against Falcon itself and the reasons behind it, whereas my major issue had nothing to do with the Falcon aspect of it or the reasonings but simply how the bandwagon was forming.
But Quin’s responses really are leaving something to be desired here. I wouldn’t have been ready to follow Alison’s lead here when the suspicion was originally laid down, but I think I’m going to go there now.
[VOTE: vote quin ] aubergine
If you find that to be scummy for Quin, I would like to know why. Not that dismissive isn't scummy, but generally I think the difference in context as to whether they're being dismissive with regards to subjects about someone else or dismissive with regards to subjects about themselves can be preety important or nuanced.
I can easily see a town, though I don't know Quin, just simply reacting dismissively after providing a simple (even if weak) reason on the basis that they have the full knowledge and confidence that they're town.
I don’t know how Quin plays at all so I can’t speak to what is normal and what isn’t.
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I can't give you a GTH answer on a specific player for now. All I know is thatSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:14 pmIf the wagons are 3 town, GTH who would you guess is mafia?MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:07 pm Not really sure about the 3 wagons, or if I want to go investigating my other reads more.
I have to think about it more tomorrow a while before EoD, but GTH I wouldn't be surprised if the wagons had 2 towns in them. Maybe even 3.
If I do vote in there it may even just be for solving's sake.
1) There's always the slight chance I've miscleared someone. I have a lot of "towny" and "very towny" reads right now.
2) If that group does hold 3 town all in all, then that would mean the last 2 mafia are in the 3 people I haven't found to have a reasonable chance of being towny that my gut agrees with presuming I haven't miscleared anyone.
3) However, some of my higher town-reads have made valuable points on some slots as to why #2 can't be the case that I won't elaborate on.
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es, I just dodged the question. I'm not comfortable answering that GTH at this time, and probably not before EoD.
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What’s GTH
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I'm not sure if they meant Alison being mean on a literal basis. Or at least that's how I read it; it was a metaphor. After all, I wouldn't expect anyone to actually think Alison was being mean after reading that, and it makes no attempt to extrapolate on how she's mean.fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:24 pm Ok well when someone accuses you in mafia it is then up to you to prove your goodness with your responses. I don’t feel Quinn’s responses are good. Not just the ones I quoted which struck me as particularly unhelpful and trying to paint the situation as something it’s not (Alison being mean), but their responses for the last day as a whole. They’ve still got time to change my mind, but for now I don’t find their responses as good as Seanzie.
I don’t know how Quin plays at all so I can’t speak to what is normal and what isn’t.
I don't know Quin either, so its possible I could be wrong, but it does seem to me we just have different perspectives as to what constitutes a towny response, and perhaps that's the best way I can put it without writing and deleting a sentence here 50 more times before I get it right since "towniness" is a complex concept.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]
No ISO top of the head sorting would be something kind of like this for me.
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Gun-To-Head.
Basically off the top of your head guessing.
For reads that generally means you can't put "null" in there and have to choose which.
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"gun to head". Essentially asking the person to give the best answer they can, even if they aren't necessarily confident in it.
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i refuse to believe you've read my ISO if you don't think i've answered those questions already.BoKnows wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:41 pmOkay, this has to the post that is universally bad. This comment on Falcon is atrocious and smells even stinkier when falcon flipped red. @Quin can you explain your reasoning behind this at all? What were your thoughts going into EoD day 1?Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:23 pm okay it's 5:20 and i am still awake and that makes me sad so
i'm caught up.
i'm not voting for alison or seanzie until i've given them both proper reading.
nobody is even talking about falcon beyond meta reads and somehow he's the lead wagon. fuck that.
[VOTE: BK] aubergine because of things i have said early on.
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i didn't want to lynch somebody on their birthday. alison called that sus. i'd have done it regardless of my alignment. alison can bite me.fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:24 pmOk well when someone accuses you in mafia it is then up to you to prove your goodness with your responses. I don’t feel Quinn’s responses are good. Not just the ones I quoted which struck me as particularly unhelpful and trying to paint the situation as something it’s not (Alison being mean), but their responses for the last day as a whole. They’ve still got time to change my mind, but for now I don’t find their responses as good as Seanzie.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:40 pmWhat's the connotation you're applying with "dismissive" here, if anything?fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:25 pm Okay rereading Alison and Quin’s posts to get a grasp on it
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:00 pmbite meAlison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:46 pmPretty weak reason to avoid voting for someone you were harsh on earlier.Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:47 pm there is a difference between saying 'i am not going to answer these questions because...' and not interacting with you.
as an aside, just about everything i've read in the seanzie v alison thing has been from your posts. i don't have the time to review it from alison's.
i'm not voting for either of you today.
to be honest, i'm just looking for an excuse not to lynch the birthday boy. please say things that aren't about alison tonight.![]()
Quin says “bite me” then accuses Alison of “being mean”
I don’t think Alison is being mean, but actively scumhunting. She’s probably working the hardest right now
So this feels dismissive.
So this helped me remember now. When the original points came up about Quin, I didn’t find it damning because I was hesitant to vote for Falcon too. The reasons were flimsy, but I could forgive some for being reasonable for day 1. So that’s the biggest difference it seems to me in mine and Quin’s reasoning. Their issue was with the lynch against Falcon itself and the reasons behind it, whereas my major issue had nothing to do with the Falcon aspect of it or the reasonings but simply how the bandwagon was forming.
But Quin’s responses really are leaving something to be desired here. I wouldn’t have been ready to follow Alison’s lead here when the suspicion was originally laid down, but I think I’m going to go there now.
[VOTE: vote quin ] aubergine
If you find that to be scummy for Quin, I would like to know why. Not that dismissive isn't scummy, but generally I think the difference in context as to whether they're being dismissive with regards to subjects about someone else or dismissive with regards to subjects about themselves can be preety important or nuanced.
I can easily see a town, though I don't know Quin, just simply reacting dismissively after providing a simple (even if weak) reason on the basis that they have the full knowledge and confidence that they're town.
I don’t know how Quin plays at all so I can’t speak to what is normal and what isn’t.
alison (and others) also suspects me for other reasons. i gave those proper attention. don't misrepresent my content as being wholly dismissive. tell me what you think about the rest of what's happening here.
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i just got done telling her off for how she treated seanzie yesterday. if anyone thinks i was being serious with that post, i can't help youMartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:09 pmI'm not sure if they meant Alison being mean on a literal basis. Or at least that's how I read it; it was a metaphor. After all, I wouldn't expect anyone to actually think Alison was being mean after reading that, and it makes no attempt to extrapolate on how she's mean.fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:24 pm Ok well when someone accuses you in mafia it is then up to you to prove your goodness with your responses. I don’t feel Quinn’s responses are good. Not just the ones I quoted which struck me as particularly unhelpful and trying to paint the situation as something it’s not (Alison being mean), but their responses for the last day as a whole. They’ve still got time to change my mind, but for now I don’t find their responses as good as Seanzie.
I don’t know how Quin plays at all so I can’t speak to what is normal and what isn’t.
I don't know Quin either, so its possible I could be wrong, but it does seem to me we just have different perspectives as to what constitutes a towny response, and perhaps that's the best way I can put it without writing and deleting a sentence here 50 more times before I get it right since "towniness" is a complex concept.

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Tell me what specifically of the “rest of what’s happening here” you would like me to address.Quin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:39 pmi didn't want to lynch somebody on their birthday. alison called that sus. i'd have done it regardless of my alignment. alison can bite me.fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:24 pmOk well when someone accuses you in mafia it is then up to you to prove your goodness with your responses. I don’t feel Quinn’s responses are good. Not just the ones I quoted which struck me as particularly unhelpful and trying to paint the situation as something it’s not (Alison being mean), but their responses for the last day as a whole. They’ve still got time to change my mind, but for now I don’t find their responses as good as Seanzie.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:40 pmWhat's the connotation you're applying with "dismissive" here, if anything?fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:25 pm Okay rereading Alison and Quin’s posts to get a grasp on it
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:00 pmbite meAlison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:46 pmPretty weak reason to avoid voting for someone you were harsh on earlier.Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:47 pm there is a difference between saying 'i am not going to answer these questions because...' and not interacting with you.
as an aside, just about everything i've read in the seanzie v alison thing has been from your posts. i don't have the time to review it from alison's.
i'm not voting for either of you today.
to be honest, i'm just looking for an excuse not to lynch the birthday boy. please say things that aren't about alison tonight.![]()
Quin says “bite me” then accuses Alison of “being mean”
I don’t think Alison is being mean, but actively scumhunting. She’s probably working the hardest right now
So this feels dismissive.
So this helped me remember now. When the original points came up about Quin, I didn’t find it damning because I was hesitant to vote for Falcon too. The reasons were flimsy, but I could forgive some for being reasonable for day 1. So that’s the biggest difference it seems to me in mine and Quin’s reasoning. Their issue was with the lynch against Falcon itself and the reasons behind it, whereas my major issue had nothing to do with the Falcon aspect of it or the reasonings but simply how the bandwagon was forming.
But Quin’s responses really are leaving something to be desired here. I wouldn’t have been ready to follow Alison’s lead here when the suspicion was originally laid down, but I think I’m going to go there now.
[VOTE: vote quin ] aubergine
If you find that to be scummy for Quin, I would like to know why. Not that dismissive isn't scummy, but generally I think the difference in context as to whether they're being dismissive with regards to subjects about someone else or dismissive with regards to subjects about themselves can be preety important or nuanced.
I can easily see a town, though I don't know Quin, just simply reacting dismissively after providing a simple (even if weak) reason on the basis that they have the full knowledge and confidence that they're town.
I don’t know how Quin plays at all so I can’t speak to what is normal and what isn’t.
alison (and others) also suspects me for other reasons. i gave those proper attention. don't misrepresent my content as being wholly dismissive. tell me what you think about the rest of what's happening here.
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quin doesn't have a single post discernibly scum reading someone from day 2, except maybe Kyle
I don't like it
I don't like it
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@MartinGG99 sometimes it’s good for the town to have “different perspectives as to what constitutes a towny response“ because it allows us to question what others might have missed.
Votes are always changeable. Something else might come up tomorrow still.
Votes are always changeable. Something else might come up tomorrow still.
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I don't feel like playing right now so I'll keep it brief.
Ratrug is townie on tone and is clearing way too many people to stand a chance if he is mafia. I am moving that slot to upper POE.
Seanzie's latest posts have been scummy and his reads list is a salad.
Quin feels like they're frustrated that they're caught for the wrong reasons re: the birthday thing which they claim is NAI.
Ratrug is townie on tone and is clearing way too many people to stand a chance if he is mafia. I am moving that slot to upper POE.
Seanzie's latest posts have been scummy and his reads list is a salad.
Quin feels like they're frustrated that they're caught for the wrong reasons re: the birthday thing which they claim is NAI.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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why don't you want to play?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:54 pm I don't feel like playing right now so I'll keep it brief.
Ratrug is townie on tone and is clearing way too many people to stand a chance if he is mafia. I am moving that slot to upper POE.
Seanzie's latest posts have been scummy and his reads list is a salad.
Quin feels like they're frustrated that they're caught for the wrong reasons re: the birthday thing which they claim is NAI.
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Because I'm tired despite waking up 6 hours ago and the only thing I want to do right now is wait for my pizza to arrive and eat pizza while watching youtube videos.Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:55 pmwhy don't you want to play?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:54 pm I don't feel like playing right now so I'll keep it brief.
Ratrug is townie on tone and is clearing way too many people to stand a chance if he is mafia. I am moving that slot to upper POE.
Seanzie's latest posts have been scummy and his reads list is a salad.
Quin feels like they're frustrated that they're caught for the wrong reasons re: the birthday thing which they claim is NAI.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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Gth reads:
(It’s 4 AM and I want to sleep. Too tired to do all the different colours so just imagine it ranges in lovely shades green to red)
Alison
MartinGG99
Long Con
Esooa
BoKnows
Kylemii
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Seanzie
Ratrug
ts account
Quin
I know my ts account towards the bottom is disagreed with by most but I just can’t shake that feeling so
A quick thought on it is that Kyle has posted a ton and is one of the couple I knew from before, so I found it strange doing this that I didn’t have more of a strong feeling either way there.
(It’s 4 AM and I want to sleep. Too tired to do all the different colours so just imagine it ranges in lovely shades green to red)
Alison
MartinGG99
Long Con
Esooa
BoKnows
Kylemii
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Seanzie
Ratrug
ts account
Quin
I know my ts account towards the bottom is disagreed with by most but I just can’t shake that feeling so

A quick thought on it is that Kyle has posted a ton and is one of the couple I knew from before, so I found it strange doing this that I didn’t have more of a strong feeling either way there.
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Also looking at it I’d probably separate Martin from the long con and esooa bunch. I feel Martins townieness much stronger than the other two although not as strong as Alison
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]
[unvote]quin[/unvote]Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:54 pm I don't feel like playing right now so I'll keep it brief.
Ratrug is townie on tone and is clearing way too many people to stand a chance if he is mafia. I am moving that slot to upper POE.
Seanzie's latest posts have been scummy and his reads list is a salad.
Quin feels like they're frustrated that they're caught for the wrong reasons re: the birthday thing which they claim is NAI.
thanks for clearing that up
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if Mikey ever suspects scum!me I'm just gonna tell one of my partners to randomly say I'm caught for the wrong reasons
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let me inform the scum chat
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i've made like one post responding to the 'birthday thing'. what's frustrating is that you're being a complete knobhead about it.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:54 pm I don't feel like playing right now so I'll keep it brief.
Ratrug is townie on tone and is clearing way too many people to stand a chance if he is mafia. I am moving that slot to upper POE.
Seanzie's latest posts have been scummy and his reads list is a salad.
Quin feels like they're frustrated that they're caught for the wrong reasons re: the birthday thing which they claim is NAI.
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i've made like one post responding to the 'birthday thing'. what's frustrating is that you're being a complete knobhead about it.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:54 pm I don't feel like playing right now so I'll keep it brief.
Ratrug is townie on tone and is clearing way too many people to stand a chance if he is mafia. I am moving that slot to upper POE.
Seanzie's latest posts have been scummy and his reads list is a salad.
Quin feels like they're frustrated that they're caught for the wrong reasons re: the birthday thing which they claim is NAI.
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nah, sounds like you aren't enjoying being mafia and it's making you not want to play.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:58 pmBecause I'm tired despite waking up 6 hours ago and the only thing I want to do right now is wait for my pizza to arrive and eat pizza while watching youtube videos.Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:55 pmwhy don't you want to play?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:54 pm I don't feel like playing right now so I'll keep it brief.
Ratrug is townie on tone and is clearing way too many people to stand a chance if he is mafia. I am moving that slot to upper POE.
Seanzie's latest posts have been scummy and his reads list is a salad.
Quin feels like they're frustrated that they're caught for the wrong reasons re: the birthday thing which they claim is NAI.
see? i can spew bullshit too.

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can some of this spewing be a scum readQuin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:12 amnah, sounds like you aren't enjoying being mafia and it's making you not want to play.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:58 pmBecause I'm tired despite waking up 6 hours ago and the only thing I want to do right now is wait for my pizza to arrive and eat pizza while watching youtube videos.Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:55 pmwhy don't you want to play?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:54 pm I don't feel like playing right now so I'll keep it brief.
Ratrug is townie on tone and is clearing way too many people to stand a chance if he is mafia. I am moving that slot to upper POE.
Seanzie's latest posts have been scummy and his reads list is a salad.
Quin feels like they're frustrated that they're caught for the wrong reasons re: the birthday thing which they claim is NAI.
see? i can spew bullshit too.![]()
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