Beelzebub The Benign scum win

[Sloonei]

Sloonei knows better than that. I'd hope at least, maybe he is playing against weak competition though. I have been retired for a long time I guess.

I did not make the post in question out of self-defense. I wanted to see what, if anything, Mr. StarkPrime would do with it.

[TonyStarkPrime]

hk your pfp is my phone background for approximately 16 weeks every year

up to 17 weeks now actually

[Sloonei]

@bestmafiaplayer, did you miss this post? https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 39#p769527

It's a bad look for Urist with respect to HK, and not great for Sloonei if he chose not to include it in his wall.

That is a post by Urist. I have only ISO’d hollowkatt.

[Long Con]

@bestmafiaplayer, did you miss this post? https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 39#p769527

It's a bad look for Urist with respect to HK, and not great for Sloonei if he chose not to include it in his wall.

That is a post by Urist. I have only ISO’d hollowkatt.

Ok, that's fair. I thought you had gathered interactions both ways.

[Esooa]

why do you town read me now doom

[Long Con]

I think Alison is town

Hey, i remember that i asked you some questions

Since what moment?

Just for answering tu urist that his "push" on me is weird o there is something else?

Well, it was around that time that I felt your posts were quite towny. Here and here.

That's a legit night target, respectable.

Hey u, i still think that u can be scum furthermore knowing the.state of the votes in the eod in hk.

Please, respond the follow questions:

1) why your vote was confortable in.me last day?

2) without knowing the result it is prob that u can change your vote last eod?

3) do u have a core? Who and why?

And weight in what happen during the eod.

1) I was comfortable because I suspected you for your earlier reaction to falcon and a wolfy post or two that I didn't like.

2) I might have changed my vote if I had been around and posting at EoD. Probably would have, since it wasn't doing any good on you. I'd rather vote for one of the top two candidates and hope to get it right so I look good.

3) Not really. I put some reads out there so I guess, but none of them are "core", just players I townread more than others.

[DaughterOfOmega]

why do you town read me now doom

I chose to

[Samusamu]

I think Alison is town

Hey, i remember that i asked you some questions

Since what moment?

Just for answering tu urist that his "push" on me is weird o there is something else?

Well, it was around that time that I felt your posts were quite towny. Here and here.

That's a legit night target, respectable.

Hey u, i still think that u can be scum furthermore knowing the.state of the votes in the eod in hk.

Please, respond the follow questions:

1) why your vote was confortable in.me last day?

2) without knowing the result it is prob that u can change your vote last eod?

3) do u have a core? Who and why?

And weight in what happen during the eod.

1) I was comfortable because I suspected you for your earlier reaction to falcon and a wolfy post or two that I didn't like.

2) I might have changed my vote if I had been around and posting at EoD. Probably would have, since it wasn't doing any good on you. I'd rather vote for one of the top two candidates and hope to get it right so I look good.

3) Not really. I put some reads out there so I guess, but none of them are "core", just players I townread more than others.

Humm your here and here are pretty near in time, i've been townreaded by a lot of players d1, nothing in that day makes u think that?

1) what is bad in my react to falcon? Can u point that post u didnt like?

2) why u were scumreading marmot? And why u were scumreading hk? To think that u pro will vote for them?

3) well there is one more question, its weird as fuck this point. You are not behind your scumreads, you are not trying to do a core, then what are you aiming for this game?

[Long Con]

I think Alison is town

Hey, i remember that i asked you some questions

Since what moment?

Just for answering tu urist that his "push" on me is weird o there is something else?

Well, it was around that time that I felt your posts were quite towny. Here and here.

That's a legit night target, respectable.

Hey u, i still think that u can be scum furthermore knowing the.state of the votes in the eod in hk.

Please, respond the follow questions:

1) why your vote was confortable in.me last day?

2) without knowing the result it is prob that u can change your vote last eod?

3) do u have a core? Who and why?

And weight in what happen during the eod.

1) I was comfortable because I suspected you for your earlier reaction to falcon and a wolfy post or two that I didn't like.

2) I might have changed my vote if I had been around and posting at EoD. Probably would have, since it wasn't doing any good on you. I'd rather vote for one of the top two candidates and hope to get it right so I look good.

3) Not really. I put some reads out there so I guess, but none of them are "core", just players I townread more than others.

Humm your here and here are pretty near in time, i've been townreaded by a lot of players d1, nothing in that day makes u think that?

1) what is bad in my react to falcon? Can u point that post u didnt like?

2) why u were scumreading marmot? And why u were scumreading hk? To think that u pro will vote for them?

3) well there is one more question, its weird as fuck this point. You are not behind your scumreads, you are not trying to do a core, then what are you aiming for this game?

1) Yeah, this post and the general progression leading up to it, I discussed it back then.

2) I wasn't, I skipped a bunch of pages when I fell behind, which is why I didn't try to get involved in the last half hour of the Day. If I had been present and playing I would have put my vote on one of them simply to take a stand, and I would have done whatever reading I could in whatever time I had in order to inform my decision.

3) I am aiming for deciding who I think is scummy, voting for them, and hoping I'm right.

[Gavial]

Sloonei trying too hard for me, I can't handle someone who puts in effort nowadays

How serious is this post?

I haven't tried in so long

Okay. What is my alignment?

how the fuck would I know

I think if LC is mafia, you look decent

If LC is town, the flip would mean nothing

Good Response.

[Gavial]

I trust Sloon.

[VOTE: urist] aubergine

Marmot TR’ed Urist even up to his own yeet.
Despite Urist SRing Marmot.
Not saying it clears Urist but it is a sign that Urist can easily be Town.

I’d suggest a Falcon vote.

@Sloonei
Would you be willing to vote Falcon with me?
IMO I think Falcon/Esooa are never W/W so if Falcon flips Scum then we can almost clear Esooa.

Sloon has me as a town lean.



Of course we're not w/w, I'm town.


You're literally looking at the game trying to prove your beliefs, and totally ignoring the things that don't support your beliefs.


Guess what? Your read on Marmot sucked, your read on me sucks, and I'm pretty sure your read on Esooa sucks.


But whatever, you do you. Very frustrating to play with

How does my read on Esooa suck?

[Gavial]

I think Alison is town

Hey, i remember that i asked you some questions

Don’t expect people to answer questions.
I tried it doesn’t always work.
Like 50%.

[Gavial]

Town: Doom, Sloonei, Esooa, Gavial, BoKnows, Seanzie, SamuSamu

The POE:Urist, Falcon, Tsp, LC (trusting the best mafia player)

I don’t mind this PoE.
If there is still a scum in the town it’s Samu/BK.

[Gavial]

I’d be willing to follow that PoE tbh.

[falcon45ca]

I trust Sloon.

[VOTE: urist] aubergine

Marmot TR’ed Urist even up to his own yeet.
Despite Urist SRing Marmot.
Not saying it clears Urist but it is a sign that Urist can easily be Town.

I’d suggest a Falcon vote.

@Sloonei
Would you be willing to vote Falcon with me?
IMO I think Falcon/Esooa are never W/W so if Falcon flips Scum then we can almost clear Esooa.

Sloon has me as a town lean.



Of course we're not w/w, I'm town.


You're literally looking at the game trying to prove your beliefs, and totally ignoring the things that don't support your beliefs.


Guess what? Your read on Marmot sucked, your read on me sucks, and I'm pretty sure your read on Esooa sucks.


But whatever, you do you. Very frustrating to play with

How does my read on Esooa suck?

Well let's flip her and find out.

[Long Con]

I think Alison is town

Hey, i remember that i asked you some questions

Don’t expect people to answer questions.
I tried it doesn’t always work.
Like 50%.

Did I miss any questions for me? Lay 'em on me. I'm the Taskmaster.

[Long Con]

"Also," LC added as casually as he was able, "Any chance any of you... sold your soul or anything?"

[Gavial]

I trust Sloon.

[VOTE: urist] aubergine

Marmot TR’ed Urist even up to his own yeet.
Despite Urist SRing Marmot.
Not saying it clears Urist but it is a sign that Urist can easily be Town.

I’d suggest a Falcon vote.

@Sloonei
Would you be willing to vote Falcon with me?
IMO I think Falcon/Esooa are never W/W so if Falcon flips Scum then we can almost clear Esooa.

Sloon has me as a town lean.



Of course we're not w/w, I'm town.


You're literally looking at the game trying to prove your beliefs, and totally ignoring the things that don't support your beliefs.


Guess what? Your read on Marmot sucked, your read on me sucks, and I'm pretty sure your read on Esooa sucks.


But whatever, you do you. Very frustrating to play with

How does my read on Esooa suck?

Well let's flip her and find out.

No.
Because your reads haven’t been good either.

[Gavial]

"Also," LC added as casually as he was able, "Any chance any of you... sold your soul or anything?"

You talking to me?

[BoKnows]

I really want to chug jug with you.

[Gavial]

Pretty sure if we follow DOOM’s PoE of Urist/LC/Tony/Falcon we win the game.

[Gavial]

I really want to chug jug with you.

Chocolate Milk?

[Urist]

lc town

[BoKnows]

Pretty sure if we follow DOOM’s PoE of Urist/LC/Tony/Falcon we win the game.

Quick 180 on DOOM but I agree she has a good PoE. I would say we go Falcon -> LC -> TSP -> Urist

I really want to chug jug with you.

Chocolate Milk?

Yeah we can be pro fortnite gamers. (sorry that was my re-entrance post).

[BoKnows]

lc town

explain

[falcon45ca]

I trust Sloon.

[VOTE: urist] aubergine

Marmot TR’ed Urist even up to his own yeet.
Despite Urist SRing Marmot.
Not saying it clears Urist but it is a sign that Urist can easily be Town.

I’d suggest a Falcon vote.

@Sloonei
Would you be willing to vote Falcon with me?
IMO I think Falcon/Esooa are never W/W so if Falcon flips Scum then we can almost clear Esooa.

Sloon has me as a town lean.



Of course we're not w/w, I'm town.


You're literally looking at the game trying to prove your beliefs, and totally ignoring the things that don't support your beliefs.


Guess what? Your read on Marmot sucked, your read on me sucks, and I'm pretty sure your read on Esooa sucks.


But whatever, you do you. Very frustrating to play with

How does my read on Esooa suck?

Well let's flip her and find out.

No.
Because your reads haven’t been good either.

Well I've got you as town. You saying I'm wrong?

[Urist]

lc town

explain

samu is voting for him

[BoKnows]

lc town

explain

samu is voting for him

ahhh say less

[Urist]

lc town

explain

samu is voting for him

ahhh say less

sm votg 4 hm

[Urist]

it's true though

[Gavial]

Pretty sure if we follow DOOM’s PoE of Urist/LC/Tony/Falcon we win the game.

Quick 180 on DOOM but I agree she has a good PoE. I would say we go Falcon -> LC -> TSP -> Urist

I really want to chug jug with you.

Chocolate Milk?

Yeah we can be pro fortnite gamers. (sorry that was my re-entrance post).

I agree with that.
May go Tony before LC but Tony did ask I do the opposite I did to him last game so I’m willing to do your order.

[Gavial]

Personally I’m good with either Falcon or TSP today.
Technically I’ve barley mentioned TSP all game so that’s opposite enough.

[Urist]

imagine setting up a poe order on d2 in a 15p game

[BoKnows]

imagine setting up a poe order on d2 in a 15p game

[Gavial]

I just don’t directly SR Tony it’s just that he’s in the PoE and makes sense as scum.
I SR Falcon for varies of reasons if you search my ISO you can find them.
Falcon gave a decently Villagery post.
But it wasn’t even really that, more just like a cooperative post rather.

[Gavial]

imagine setting up a poe order on d2 in a 15p game

@Urist
We fishing for scum!
Let’s go grab em!

[Gavial]

What did you say your read on Falcon was again Urist?

[Urist]

What did you say your read on Falcon was again Urist?

i don't think i ever mentioned having a read on falcon

[Seanzie]

Pretty sure if we follow DOOM’s PoE of Urist/LC/Tony/Falcon we win the game.

I think Esooa should be in this group for sure, and honestly should just be today's lunch.

[Seanzie]

I just don’t directly SR Tony it’s just that he’s in the PoE and makes sense as scum.
I SR Falcon for varies of reasons if you search my ISO you can find them.
Falcon gave a decently Villagery post.
But it wasn’t even really that, more just like a cooperative post rather.

Which post is that?

[Gavial]

What did you say your read on Falcon was again Urist?

i don't think i ever mentioned having a read on falcon

So then they are Null to you or do you not want to say your read on them in front of Falcon?









Don’t worry you can whisper it to me In DM’s!
(Joking)

[Seanzie]

lc town

explain

samu is voting for him

How does this imply that LC is town?

[Gavial]

Pretty sure if we follow DOOM’s PoE of Urist/LC/Tony/Falcon we win the game.

I think Esooa should be in this group for sure, and honestly should just be today's lunch.

I’d disagree, I don’t think they say what they said at very end of EoD as scum partners.

[Gavial]

I just don’t directly SR Tony it’s just that he’s in the PoE and makes sense as scum.
I SR Falcon for varies of reasons if you search my ISO you can find them.
Falcon gave a decently Villagery post.
But it wasn’t even really that, more just like a cooperative post rather.

Which post is that?

Where they gave their “if Esooa flips” reads.

[Gavial]

lc town

explain

samu is voting for him

How does this imply that LC is town?

It’s more like, how does Samu determine the alignment of others from voting them?
@Urist

[Sloonei]

I trust Sloon.

[VOTE: urist] aubergine

Marmot TR’ed Urist even up to his own yeet.
Despite Urist SRing Marmot.
Not saying it clears Urist but it is a sign that Urist can easily be Town.

I’d suggest a Falcon vote.

@Sloonei
Would you be willing to vote Falcon with me?
IMO I think Falcon/Esooa are never W/W so if Falcon flips Scum then we can almost clear Esooa.

Sloon has me as a town lean.



Of course we're not w/w, I'm town.


You're literally looking at the game trying to prove your beliefs, and totally ignoring the things that don't support your beliefs.


Guess what? Your read on Marmot sucked, your read on me sucks, and I'm pretty sure your read on Esooa sucks.


But whatever, you do you. Very frustrating to play with

How does my read on Esooa suck?

Well let's flip her and find out.

No.
Because your reads haven’t been good either.

This is not a good reason to dismiss someone’s read.

[Seanzie]

Pretty sure if we follow DOOM’s PoE of Urist/LC/Tony/Falcon we win the game.

I think Esooa should be in this group for sure, and honestly should just be today's lunch.

I’d disagree, I don’t think they say what they said at very end of EoD as scum partners.

I mean, I'll concede that wolf!Esooa would have to be pretty brazen to hard-defend a teammate like this, but I've seen wolves do crazier things.

[BoKnows]

Pretty sure if we follow DOOM’s PoE of Urist/LC/Tony/Falcon we win the game.

I think Esooa should be in this group for sure, and honestly should just be today's lunch.

I agree. Esooa is the number 1 priority.

[Seanzie]

In fact, [VOTE: Esooa] aubergine

She has by far the most partner equity with HK, and we need to resolve her.

[Urist]

couple things sloonei

Spoiler: show

@Alison I'll take a tarot read if you wanna do one

yeah ok I was asking for that wasn't I

hollowkatt asked for a broken image?

The image is a tarot card, "The Fool".

Spoiler: show

Gavial is doing way too much right now. extreme wolf vibes

His wall posts look trippy on mushrooms right now

they look like wall posts on edibles.

This post does not need to exist. It is a barely-relevant observation made by falcon. Hollowkatt literally just rewords the comment. Why on earth does this exist?

I feel like you're being overly critical about a joke post here. It's also not really a rewording because edibles can be many things aside from mushrooms

Spoiler: show

Gavial is doing way too much right now. extreme wolf vibes

why?

They're not sitting right with me. It feels like he's making something out of nothing.

Gavial is doing way too much right now. extreme wolf vibes

I do not feel extreme wolf vibes from Gavial.

See above for my reasoning.

Gavial is doing way too much right now. extreme wolf vibes

His wall posts look trippy on mushrooms right now

They confused me more than anyhting.

can you give an example or two of where he's trying to make something out of nothing? I'm seeing a lot of stream of consciousness stuff, not really seeing manufacturing stuff

hollowkatt is engaging heavily with the gavial suspicion. Could be a good sign for Gavial. There's an outside chance this is cooperative theater with Bo, but I don't think so. I think it looks like a mafiakatt trying to get a civilian Bo to do the legwork on a civilian chop.

Spoiler: show

ok thanks. I can see how he gets to "one of falcon, seanzie, samusamu is a wolf". Seems like that's a fairly reasonable stance to take. Not thrilled with his "don't want to hit wrong" take tho, it's still early.
His second post you quote is meh to me. Can grok why you don't like it.
Third post is a throw-away in my book.

I guess I get what concerns you, so thanks, I appreciate it.

I would have voted for hollowkatt based off of this post. If any post ever gave off the vibes of talking at one's feet and shrugging one's shoulders, it's this one. Bo is town off of this, and I'll take that to the bank. hollowkatt appears to have no idea how to respond to this case naturally.
I am less sure what it says about Gavial now. The awkwardness of the response could be indicative of a Gavial/hollowkatt partnership, wherein HK regrets pushing so hard and getting an actual substantive case on their partner and now needs to find a way out of it. Or it could be that hollowkatt is trying to position themself in such a way that they can vote for Gavial if needed, but does not want to appear overly-eager in doing so. Gun to my head, I'm saying it's the latter.

My analysis of that series of posts is that hk was actually looking for something substantial that he could agree with, so that he could use it to bootstrap a scumread on gavial. But instead bk gave something rather meh ("look at these 3 posts!").
In other words, I think what you've said in your first quote is correct and that it isn't scum-indicative of Gavial at all.

Spoiler: show

Well the lc wagon is still in offer.

I have bad feelings about this offer

Hm. Samu town, maybe. Do teammates disagree like this about wagons so close to the deadline? I don't think so. And this is the first time I've seen Long Con get any sort of mention in HK's ISO. So there's that.

Spoiler: show

hk, urist, samu and I can agree on a wagon to put over hk

I have few preferences

give your names

Obvs I think seanzie. I'm leery of the LC offer from Samu b/c I don't have a particularly strong read on either of them in either direction. You're off the table. I still like Marmot as town even though I think his push on me is bad and based in bad reads/information

Yeah Samu town. LC maybe mafia.

I think you're reading too much into this. It could easily be "there's 20 minutes left to deadline and we don't have support for an LC wagon, please suggest someone else". Or "there's 20 minutes left to deadline and I'm getting lynched anyway, please don't switch off my wagon". I think that it does indicate that one of Samu or LC are mafia (why wouldn't hk take him up on the offer if they're both town?), but I don't see why hk would so blatantly defend his partner so close to deadline when he's already a leading wagon and has a good chance of dying.