Modern Family Hydra Mafia [GAME END]

[Toopy and Binoo]

I WILL NOT BE POCKETED

[VOTE: akemi etc.] aubergine

Your losing me.
What exactly is your read on Akemi and is it different then your hydra partner?

-Toopy

[Bottom Text]

that made post is actually super townie lol

how

[Poop Explosions]

that made post is actually super townie lol

I’m telling you dude.
If your actually town here the teams TR/Julinook/Tony

-Toopy

Yeah but you said "I'm telling you the blah blah" in AIM mafia and every read you had was wrong so like why should I believe random worlds you pluck out of the sky?

[Poop Explosions]

that made post is actually super townie lol

how

A wolf Made. Pushing this slot for 2 days. Doesn't even bother to make up a reason to scumread us when asked? Like they could have just said POE ffs. They could say anything. Outright refusal is twtbw.

[Poop Explosions]

I mean it's not really. I often do shit like that as a wolf so forget this read.

[Toopy and Binoo]

that made post is actually super townie lol

I’m telling you dude.
If your actually town here the teams TR/Julinook/Tony

-Toopy

Yeah but you said "I'm telling you the blah blah" in AIM mafia and every read you had was wrong so like why should I believe random worlds you pluck out of the sky?

I mean I’ll admit the solve itself, all of them. Were wrong.
But I wasn’t wrong on yeeted Sean after me since he was scum, I was just wrong on TSP.

-Toopy

[Poop Explosions]

that made post is actually super townie lol

I’m telling you dude.
If your actually town here the teams TR/Julinook/Tony

-Toopy

Yeah but you said "I'm telling you the blah blah" in AIM mafia and every read you had was wrong so like why should I believe random worlds you pluck out of the sky?

I mean I’ll admit the solve itself, all of them. Were wrong.
But I wasn’t wrong on yeeted Sean after me since he was scum, I was just wrong on TSP.

-Toopy

So that tells me you should focus more on making independent wolf reads (good at it) and put down the crackpipe with your world building (bad at it).

[Poop Explosions]

Especially given you seem to think that we all live inside your head when you make the reads like you just say things and then get mad that nobody sheeps or understand you but you never explain anything to the degree required lol.

Trans Rights Tony and Julinook can be a team though I have no reason to refute that.

But if we are living in a world of three then A LOT of teams are viable. So why that one over any other random group of 3?

[Poop Explosions]

This is the time where gavial is actually right about a world and I am embarrassing the fuck out of myself I bet.

[Poop Explosions]

@Akemi Hazelnut why are you voting for Bottom Text?

[Poop Explosions]

Especially given you seem to think that we all live inside your head when you make the reads like you just say things and then get mad that nobody sheeps or understand you but you never explain anything to the degree required lol.

Trans Rights Tony and Julinook can be a team though I have no reason to refute that.

But if we are living in a world of three then A LOT of teams are viable. So why that one over any other random group of 3?

@Toopy and Binoo plz answer this question lol

[Akemi Hazelnut]

@Akemi Hazelnut why are you voting for Bottom Text?

was alison, i'd be on made in spirit rn but cba

[Bottom Text]

Especially given you seem to think that we all live inside your head when you make the reads like you just say things and then get mad that nobody sheeps or understand you but you never explain anything to the degree required lol.

Trans Rights Tony and Julinook can be a team though I have no reason to refute that.

But if we are living in a world of three then A LOT of teams are viable. So why that one over any other random group of 3?

@Toopy and Binoo plz answer this question lol

I almost feel like Mac caring about Seth's reads when he already has him town (?) considering they're Seth's reads is wolfy LMAO

[Poop Explosions]

So we have a lot of limited shot roles here and we've only seen one janitor so I think it's fair to say the janitor was also one shot. I doubt a town janitor randomly janitors the d1 flip so yes the janitor was a wolf. If it was a limited shot then the only way the wolves would feel like it wasn't a waste is if the d1 flip was a wolf themselves and in actuality probably literally the janitor themselves.

[Poop Explosions]

Especially given you seem to think that we all live inside your head when you make the reads like you just say things and then get mad that nobody sheeps or understand you but you never explain anything to the degree required lol.

Trans Rights Tony and Julinook can be a team though I have no reason to refute that.

But if we are living in a world of three then A LOT of teams are viable. So why that one over any other random group of 3?

@Toopy and Binoo plz answer this question lol

I almost feel like Mac caring about Seth's reads when he already has him town (?) considering they're Seth's reads is wolfy LMAO

I am partly trying to be nice and partly nervous that he's right.

[Poop Explosions]

So we have a lot of limited shot roles here and we've only seen one janitor so I think it's fair to say the janitor was also one shot. I doubt a town janitor randomly janitors the d1 flip so yes the janitor was a wolf. If it was a limited shot then the only way the wolves would feel like it wasn't a waste is if the d1 flip was a wolf themselves and in actuality probably literally the janitor themselves.

So with that said it would appear to me that we are living in a world of 2 which brings me back to where I was solving to begin with.

@Toopy and Binoo why are you living in a world of 3?

[Poop Explosions]

Especially given you voted on TAT on day 1? I would think you of all ppl be living in a world of 2?

TwoAndThrough
4
24%
Voters: Timsup2gettinserious, Toopy and Binoo, Honey & Vinegar, Bottom Text

[Poop Explosions]

Oh god that wagon so pure lol.

[Toopy and Binoo]

that made post is actually super townie lol

I’m telling you dude.
If your actually town here the teams TR/Julinook/Tony

-Toopy

Yeah but you said "I'm telling you the blah blah" in AIM mafia and every read you had was wrong so like why should I believe random worlds you pluck out of the sky?

I mean I’ll admit the solve itself, all of them. Were wrong.
But I wasn’t wrong on yeeted Sean after me since he was scum, I was just wrong on TSP.

-Toopy

So that tells me you should focus more on making independent wolf reads (good at it) and put down the crackpipe with your world building (bad at it).

I’m not completely bad at world building.
I tend to be better at it when I focus at one person independently being a wolf and building from that, where as figured out the team as a whole I’m not too good at.

Like here’s what I’ve figured out.
BottomText is always 100% Town, I just don’t see a way independently to be aligned with anyone. Unless SK is in this game they are Town.

Poop your conflicting, I believe in the 2-Shot BG as it seems more of an actual town role rather then a scum fake claim so mechanically your more town. However what does get to me is how your reading others. I feel you need to do more re-evaluation with things because your reads don’t really feel well thought out it feels like your just clearing off players for “being Townie” and throwing the remainder in another pile to yeet. I wanna say your town but I also wanna see you do something here! In potentially MYLO where it matters.

As for Julinook I don’t really see anything from them that a wolf can’t do. I feel their Jailkeeper role is more likely to come from a Scum Aligned player then a Town.

I’m not 100% sure on Trans, they claim 1-Shot Commuter and well I don’t understand the purpose of this role for the setup. I mean I think mechanically wise this looks bad due to the fact I don’t see any outstanding role you would need to commute from. Like why Commute to a BG? Why Commute to a JK? Like I’m a Medium FFS, I only visit dead people.
I just don’t see the purpose in their role, if however they are indeed town. In that case really only you or Julinook can be scum due to balance purposes regarding the setup.

-Toopy

[Bottom Text]

@Poop Explosions
BottomText is always 100% Town, I just don’t see a way independently to be aligned with anyone. Unless SK is in this game they are Town.

lmao see Seth town reads me so hard every game I love him for it

[Toopy and Binoo]

@TonyStarkPlaysItCool
Would you be willing to claim your role please!

I know from experience when playing with wolf!Tony he likes to not claim as wolf unless he’s forced to.

[Toopy and Binoo]

-Toooopy

[Poop Explosions]

that made post is actually super townie lol

I’m telling you dude.
If your actually town here the teams TR/Julinook/Tony

-Toopy

Yeah but you said "I'm telling you the blah blah" in AIM mafia and every read you had was wrong so like why should I believe random worlds you pluck out of the sky?

I mean I’ll admit the solve itself, all of them. Were wrong.
But I wasn’t wrong on yeeted Sean after me since he was scum, I was just wrong on TSP.

-Toopy

So that tells me you should focus more on making independent wolf reads (good at it) and put down the crackpipe with your world building (bad at it).

I’m not completely bad at world building.
I tend to be better at it when I focus at one person independently being a wolf and building from that, where as figured out the team as a whole I’m not too good at.

Like here’s what I’ve figured out.
BottomText is always 100% Town, I just don’t see a way independently to be aligned with anyone. Unless SK is in this game they are Town.

Poop your conflicting, I believe in the 2-Shot BG as it seems more of an actual town role rather then a scum fake claim so mechanically your more town. However what does get to me is how your reading others. I feel you need to do more re-evaluation with things because your reads don’t really feel well thought out it feels like your just clearing off players for “being Townie” and throwing the remainder in another pile to yeet. I wanna say your town but I also wanna see you do something here! In potentially MYLO where it matters.

As for Julinook I don’t really see anything from them that a wolf can’t do. I feel their Jailkeeper role is more likely to come from a Scum Aligned player then a Town.

I’m not 100% sure on Trans, they claim 1-Shot Commuter and well I don’t understand the purpose of this role for the setup. I mean I think mechanically wise this looks bad due to the fact I don’t see any outstanding role you would need to commute from. Like why Commute to a BG? Why Commute to a JK? Like I’m a Medium FFS, I only visit dead people.
I just don’t see the purpose in their role, if however they are indeed town. In that case really only you or Julinook can be scum due to balance purposes regarding the setup.

-Toopy

Yes BT is town.

I don't need to think things through in an ez game.

Julinook is town probably because juliets posts are ridiculously towny and she'd never kill roxy, not when you can kill me or whatever.

Yeah good call on the Trans claim I like that read.

What's your dealio with TSPIC?

[Poop Explosions]

@Poop Explosions
BottomText is always 100% Town, I just don’t see a way independently to be aligned with anyone. Unless SK is in this game they are Town.

lmao see Seth town reads me so hard every game I love him for it

and yet when I do it's "mac why are you town reading me" endlessly.

[Bottom Text]

@Poop Explosions
BottomText is always 100% Town, I just don’t see a way independently to be aligned with anyone. Unless SK is in this game they are Town.

lmao see Seth town reads me so hard every game I love him for it

and yet when I do it's "mac why are you town reading me" endlessly.

bullying you is fun

[Poop Explosions]

is it bullying if it's because you are afraid I am pocketing you tho?

[Bottom Text]

fuck I'm so drunk lmao

[dunya]

this was the post count 2hrs after sod.

i forgot to see post count before sod. i'm not going to bother count, but i'm gonna assume for sanity's sake everyone had TWENTY posts then, so that number + 180 is your limit. Don't exceed it or bad things will happen k.

[Mana]

how are we actually being pushed right now? we have no idea what two and through actually was, but i think the role that janitored them was probably a wolf role. that's not really alignment indicative for them though. seriously though, either of two and through or bottom text being a wolf clears us straight up, along with being the top poster yesterday.

stop mindlessly tunneling my friend.

Why does T&T or BT being wolf clear you exactly?

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

@TonyStarkPlaysItCool fullclaim

I'm going to make dinner so I won't be around for a bit

We targeted H&V

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

What happened to the claimed bodyguard btw

wasn't that Poop?

Si

who did you target yesterday?

AH

Why TF would AH ever be the NK?
Who did you target N1?

mindmeld @TonyStarkPlaysItCool help us figure out who the wolf is between Ake and Poop. Something ain't right here

I think they're both villagers

[Mana]

Okay so poop went from town reading T&T and BT (which is a huge yikes on it's own), to then voting T&T when it looked like they were doomed, then to switching to Mana when it looked like the Mana wagon could go over (which it would of till BT and TR switched to T&T). So basically if T&T is scum it's always Poop. It COULD be BT or TR if T&T scum, but it's less likely because the only reason to do this is knowing the D1 kill will be janitored and prefering the janitor flip over a naked scum flip which is possible. Of the two, BT is more likely because BT in a sense could be seen as voting to "save" so that vote was kinda forced, and for all we know janitor only worked on T&T and not BT.

Poop then preceeded to be perfectly wrong the next day in their reads. That's impressive, but not in light of them almost voting to save scum D1.

Poop is just scum y'all. you gotta vote'em guise, you just gottaaaaa

Direct quotes to relelvant post in the spoil

Spoiler: show

My intuition tells me TAT and BT are both town.

[VOTE: TwoandThrough] aubergine

Gadoosh!

I feel like the mafia is Mana + FK + one between H&V and Timsup2gettingserious. That's where I am at.

This is the part where everyone sheeps my reads

(sheeping image for reference of proper form)

[Mana]

@TonyStarkPlaysItCool ^^^ read this and reevaluate.

please and thank

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

I'd rather not claim, TSP left specific instructions in not claiming yesterday and I want to respect that because I wanted to claim yesterday for reasons which would eventually become obvious. My target for this phase is all you get atm

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

im less confident in poop than I am on AK, I will give you that

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

afaik the townreads on tspic looks kinda meh. maybe he struggles with wolfing but i don't perceive any of his posts to be unfakeable for a wolf.

plus i think their slot wolfreading us for the mafia theory read is borderline ~never real because the reason they provided doesn't correlate with us being a wolf

what?

I didn't call you a wolf for it, I just said it was a minor concern

[Toopy and Binoo]

that made post is actually super townie lol

I’m telling you dude.
If your actually town here the teams TR/Julinook/Tony

-Toopy

Yeah but you said "I'm telling you the blah blah" in AIM mafia and every read you had was wrong so like why should I believe random worlds you pluck out of the sky?

I mean I’ll admit the solve itself, all of them. Were wrong.
But I wasn’t wrong on yeeted Sean after me since he was scum, I was just wrong on TSP.

-Toopy

So that tells me you should focus more on making independent wolf reads (good at it) and put down the crackpipe with your world building (bad at it).

I’m not completely bad at world building.
I tend to be better at it when I focus at one person independently being a wolf and building from that, where as figured out the team as a whole I’m not too good at.

Like here’s what I’ve figured out.
BottomText is always 100% Town, I just don’t see a way independently to be aligned with anyone. Unless SK is in this game they are Town.

Poop your conflicting, I believe in the 2-Shot BG as it seems more of an actual town role rather then a scum fake claim so mechanically your more town. However what does get to me is how your reading others. I feel you need to do more re-evaluation with things because your reads don’t really feel well thought out it feels like your just clearing off players for “being Townie” and throwing the remainder in another pile to yeet. I wanna say your town but I also wanna see you do something here! In potentially MYLO where it matters.

As for Julinook I don’t really see anything from them that a wolf can’t do. I feel their Jailkeeper role is more likely to come from a Scum Aligned player then a Town.

I’m not 100% sure on Trans, they claim 1-Shot Commuter and well I don’t understand the purpose of this role for the setup. I mean I think mechanically wise this looks bad due to the fact I don’t see any outstanding role you would need to commute from. Like why Commute to a BG? Why Commute to a JK? Like I’m a Medium FFS, I only visit dead people.
I just don’t see the purpose in their role, if however they are indeed town. In that case really only you or Julinook can be scum due to balance purposes regarding the setup.

-Toopy

Yes BT is town.

I don't need to think things through in an ez game.

Julinook is town probably because juliets posts are ridiculously towny and she'd never kill roxy, not when you can kill me or whatever.

Yeah good call on the Trans claim I like that read.

What's your dealio with TSPIC?

You got a shoe up your ga hoo don’t yeah?
There is no such thing as a for sure easy game.
I game could be easy but you will never actually know until it’s over.

TSPIC hasn’t really done anything that I can see that incredibly stands out. I remember not really liking their SoD1 Posts, felt off. That’s why I want a claim out of them to try and figure out their slot better.

-Toopy

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Massclaiming has never gone wrong in the history of mafia

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Julinook and TPIC are my "if they're scum they earned the win tbh" reads atm

can you elaborate on the tspic read briefly?

their read of the game has been consistently closest to mine all game. I don't see a baddie angle for their actions, and they seem removed from a lot of the easy pushes of the game

Except for me thinking that you're a wolf, and still maybe do as well

[Toopy and Binoo]

how are we actually being pushed right now? we have no idea what two and through actually was, but i think the role that janitored them was probably a wolf role. that's not really alignment indicative for them though. seriously though, either of two and through or bottom text being a wolf clears us straight up, along with being the top poster yesterday.

stop mindlessly tunneling my friend.

Why does T&T or BT being wolf clear you exactly?

BT clears them, (but BT is never scum).
T&T doesn’t clear them AT ALL.
They are talking out of a cucumber!

-Toopy

[Toopy and Binoo]

@TonyStarkPlaysItCool fullclaim

I'm going to make dinner so I won't be around for a bit

We targeted H&V

So your claiming you shot H&V?

-Toopy

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

@TonyStarkPlaysItCool fullclaim

I'm going to make dinner so I won't be around for a bit

We targeted H&V

So your claiming you shot H&V?

-Toopy

No, we're claiming to have targeted H&V

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

We were not given any feedback if our action failed so I assume it went through

[Toopy and Binoo]

I'd rather not claim, TSP left specific instructions in not claiming yesterday and I want to respect that because I wanted to claim yesterday for reasons which would eventually become obvious. My target for this phase is all you get atm

Um ok, then tell him to get his butt on here!
Through my experience he claims as Town and doesn’t as Scum.
And the fact you claim you targeted H&V has me more concerned.

-Toopy

[Toopy and Binoo]

Like Tony either claims simply as town or takes a hassle to convince him to claim as scum.
It’s his tell.

-Toopy

[Toopy and Binoo]

@TonyStarkPlaysItCool fullclaim

I'm going to make dinner so I won't be around for a bit

We targeted H&V

So your claiming you shot H&V?

-Toopy

No, we're claiming to have targeted H&V

We were not given any feedback if our action failed so I assume it went through

I mean you targeted now a dead player.....

-Toopy

[Mana]

Poe solve

It's not AkeHaze cuz nutella wouldn't x roxy d1, they were mech'd n1, and alison would always carry the nk here
it's not Toopy and boop because weird ass early game mech things
It's not Julinook cuz they protected AH
It's not both BT and TR because end of day one (slightly less likely to be TR if T&T is scum)

that leaves
Poop, the suspiciously Ineffective body guard
either BT or TR (in that order for reasons mentioned above)
and TPIC, who's claim will hopefully kick them out of POE

Does poop have town/scum equity with any of these players?

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

More than one person can target the same person FYI

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

We holstered yesterday

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Or I should say we holstered N1