The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[Gavial]

football is a sport

Prove it

[Scotty]

So we've got Kza, Syn and TSP essentially cleared.

I think it's possible Mac could be mafia and falsifying a restriction because he visited a shrine and saw a bunch of townies there. But thats some tinfoil so I'm gonna keep him in the town pile.
He line strikes BK, so, guess BK is tp.

Kza
Syn
TSP
Mac
BK

Tim could just be fooling me, but he feels towny. Same kinda goes for quin and Scotty. Both feel towny.

Falc is a bit of a puzzle rn. Maybe it's just I havent played with him for a while, but his style does feel different. Still gotta town side him for now.

Enrique
Long Con
Marmot
Occupy that awkward, uneasy null space

Jack and nachomamma scum leaning.

PoE

Kyle
Daisy
Monkey
Made
Gavial

Thats where I'm at.

This is a scummy post

You start by admitting the possibility of Mac being bad, but then directly contradict it by saying it’s tinfoily, and putting him in your town pile, even though you have an awkward null space.

What does “line strike” mean? And when did Mac do that to BK?

Yeah honestly Mac and Flanders probably scum buddies.
Both great targets for SK’s tonight.
Or we could yeet one of them instead of me if that’s possible.

You’re really dead set on this SK thing. I think Tim is right in that the mafia would have chosen to kill Alison. Why would the SK have chosen to kill Nook? I’ve never randed SK so don’t usually know the protocol for NKs- do they usually target rando, town-contributing or would they be wolf hunting as well?

Just surprised at your confidence in the 2nd kill being an SK

[Scotty]

@Scotty
Come vote Flanders with me!

Maybe, still reading.

If your head wasn’t on the block today would you vote Made?

[Gavial]

So we've got Kza, Syn and TSP essentially cleared.

I think it's possible Mac could be mafia and falsifying a restriction because he visited a shrine and saw a bunch of townies there. But thats some tinfoil so I'm gonna keep him in the town pile.
He line strikes BK, so, guess BK is tp.

Kza
Syn
TSP
Mac
BK

Tim could just be fooling me, but he feels towny. Same kinda goes for quin and Scotty. Both feel towny.

Falc is a bit of a puzzle rn. Maybe it's just I havent played with him for a while, but his style does feel different. Still gotta town side him for now.

Enrique
Long Con
Marmot
Occupy that awkward, uneasy null space

Jack and nachomamma scum leaning.

PoE

Kyle
Daisy
Monkey
Made
Gavial

Thats where I'm at.

This is a scummy post

You start by admitting the possibility of Mac being bad, but then directly contradict it by saying it’s tinfoily, and putting him in your town pile, even though you have an awkward null space.

What does “line strike” mean? And when did Mac do that to BK?

Yeah honestly Mac and Flanders probably scum buddies.
Both great targets for SK’s tonight.
Or we could yeet one of them instead of me if that’s possible.

You’re really dead set on this SK thing. I think Tim is right in that the mafia would have chosen to kill Alison. Why would the SK have chosen to kill Nook? I’ve never randed SK so don’t usually know the protocol for NKs- do they usually target rando, town-contributing or would they be wolf hunting as well?

Just surprised at your confidence in the 2nd kill being an SK

Where did the 2ed kill come from then?
And are you saying you think the 3P is Arsonist or Fool?

[Scotty]

I have a watcher shrine so killing me is reeee.

Did you use a tracker last night on Nook?
That you are so adamant about this watcher has about as much substance as the calories in Diet Coke: empty

Yeah Nook didn’t visit anyone.

Interesting. I figure he would have to visit a shrine of some sort even if he was killed.

If you’re telling the truth, sounds like post-Mortem actions don’t happen if you die the same night

[Gavial]

@Scotty
Come vote Flanders with me!

Maybe, still reading.

If your head wasn’t on the block today would you vote Made?

I’m not too sure as I think it could also be a town slot.
As for Falcon, Mac and Flanders I’m good with any of those 3 and maybe even Quin.

[Scotty]

I betcha that mafia sword artifact was used on a someone more town-leaning last night, and failed.

I would also bet that that target will be the NK tonite. Makes sense to me. Not that this info has any bearing on anything

[Gavial]

Is that target you?

[Scotty]

So we've got Kza, Syn and TSP essentially cleared.

I think it's possible Mac could be mafia and falsifying a restriction because he visited a shrine and saw a bunch of townies there. But thats some tinfoil so I'm gonna keep him in the town pile.
He line strikes BK, so, guess BK is tp.

Kza
Syn
TSP
Mac
BK

Tim could just be fooling me, but he feels towny. Same kinda goes for quin and Scotty. Both feel towny.

Falc is a bit of a puzzle rn. Maybe it's just I havent played with him for a while, but his style does feel different. Still gotta town side him for now.

Enrique
Long Con
Marmot
Occupy that awkward, uneasy null space

Jack and nachomamma scum leaning.

PoE

Kyle
Daisy
Monkey
Made
Gavial

Thats where I'm at.

This is a scummy post

You start by admitting the possibility of Mac being bad, but then directly contradict it by saying it’s tinfoily, and putting him in your town pile, even though you have an awkward null space.

What does “line strike” mean? And when did Mac do that to BK?

It actually reads like towny LL to me.

In a vacuum, I think you’re wrong.

However I just read it back as someone that is having an evolving viewpoint and I do see how it could be town thoughts. I guess I have those moments a lot too.

I’ll pull it from the stove for now. May cook it later when I’m hungry tho

[Gavial]

Cooking up some scum!

[Scotty]

did Alison or Nanook post in day 1 if they knew or not about shrines or anything?

how would they know anything

was my question not coherent?

well, your question seems kind of silly

you're asking if two uninformed villagers had special information regarding shrines on D1 before any actions

There was some back and forth on day one because some people (and Alison was included) could see on their own role cards that different shrines do different things for them, where other people do not have that on their cards...example, Seanzie. I was in that discussion because my role card actually makes no mention at all of what the shrines do, and apparently the shrines themselves do not do anything for me. I make money based on the number of people that visit the shrine I visit, and then I get to buy things...if I live long enough and make good choices, neither of which seems likely at this point since I only made one sale N1.

Anyway, the back and forth was because people seeing "this shrine does that" had immediate suspicions about people who did not have that on their cards, and vice versa. But it got worked out as (most likely) NAI.

This role sounds mercenary-ish and I’m now reading you as indie.

Which in the current climate means you’ll probably be nominated for best picture but i digress

Game of Champs this year had a purchaser role and it was town.

Figuring you’ve played with Tim a bit- Is tim usually this forthright and explainy with his roles as town?

Tim’s proposed role is the only one that has been mentioned with such an asymmetric ability if he were town. I mean besides the whole “I don’t know what my shrines do”.

Hey @Long Con , you also don’t know what your shrines do. Do you have any info to report about your success last night, or how your role differs from Tim that you wouldn’t mind sharing?

[KZA]

marmot made a similar argument for my innocence in double elimination mafia where he was mafia and presumably trying to pocket me? after a long verbal deathmatch with moghedian over what i think was probably minutia. i was accused by mog of twisting his words and marmot came in and said that he didn't think i was capable of that?

i guess my question is @Marmot is this a thing you really believe? is there anecdotal evidence for it?

This feels like an "oh shit caught one" moment lol

[Qwags]

someone I think it was Flanders said qwags is always qwags or something something.

but how can he be anything at all if he doesn't post? can't interpret anything if there is nothing to read, right?

@Qwags hi! come and play

Hello! Sorry boys, lost track of time. Alison and Nanook gone

[KZA]

someone I think it was Flanders said qwags is always qwags or something something.

but how can he be anything at all if he doesn't post? can't interpret anything if there is nothing to read, right?

@Qwags hi! come and play

Hello! Sorry boys, lost track of time. Alison and Nanook gone

Any opinions on the current wagons?

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

My list seems to be causing an excessive amount of confusion.
FWIW if I dont write my thoughts out, no matter how conflicted, I have no ground and just confuse myself / get lost.

That's not a list I'm about to turn into a hill to die on, but that is basically where I'm at still, but feeling slightly better on the daisy and Kyle slots not being w/w, but there could be a wolf there.

Qustion to the syndicats about Gavial - I'm curious if early unnecessary claims are part of his meta with either faction.

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

And I just realized Qwags was missed in my thinking.

Qwags is always mafia even when he isnt.

[BoKnows]

1. Budweiser- Amazing taste, most alcohol. King of beers
2. PBR - Classic value beer. Decent taste, decent alcohol.
3. Molson Canadian - Alright taste, would have again but not my first choice.
4. Miller Lite - Disappointed, tasted like water I was expecting more tbh

[BoKnows]

Had those 4 beer today

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

marmot made a similar argument for my innocence in double elimination mafia where he was mafia and presumably trying to pocket me? after a long verbal deathmatch with moghedian over what i think was probably minutia. i was accused by mog of twisting his words and marmot came in and said that he didn't think i was capable of that?

i guess my question is @Marmot is this a thing you really believe? is there anecdotal evidence for it?

This feels like an "oh shit caught one" moment lol

Made. In the one game I played with him he was supatown. Does he have a wide town range, or scum?

[KZA]

I've played against wolf Gavial twice and would describe him as unpredictable and confusing as all hell

Never towned with him or wolfed against him

[Scotty]

I have a watcher shrine so killing me is reeee.

Aaaaaand, you didn't use this watcher shrine N1 because?

Ok seeing as I’m asking these questions after they e happened ima let the big guns do it

Wait...are you saying I am a big gun? That may be a problem since today I am a very busy gun and may disappear almost completely once I am done answering pings.

Scotty, you have the bridge!

This is how the titanic sank, skipper

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

1. Budweiser- Amazing taste, most alcohol. King of beers
2. PBR - Classic value beer. Decent taste, decent alcohol.
3. Molson Canadian - Alright taste, would have again but not my first choice.
4. Miller Lite - Disappointed, tasted like water I was expecting more tbh

Scummy taste in beers tbh

[Syn]

how would they know anything

was my question not coherent?

well, your question seems kind of silly

you're asking if two uninformed villagers had special information regarding shrines on D1 before any actions

There was some back and forth on day one because some people (and Alison was included) could see on their own role cards that different shrines do different things for them, where other people do not have that on their cards...example, Seanzie. I was in that discussion because my role card actually makes no mention at all of what the shrines do, and apparently the shrines themselves do not do anything for me. I make money based on the number of people that visit the shrine I visit, and then I get to buy things...if I live long enough and make good choices, neither of which seems likely at this point since I only made one sale N1.

Anyway, the back and forth was because people seeing "this shrine does that" had immediate suspicions about people who did not have that on their cards, and vice versa. But it got worked out as (most likely) NAI.

This role sounds mercenary-ish and I’m now reading you as indie.

Which in the current climate means you’ll probably be nominated for best picture but i digress

Game of Champs this year had a purchaser role and it was town.

Figuring you’ve played with Tim a bit- Is tim usually this forthright and explainy with his roles as town?

Tim’s proposed role is the only one that has been mentioned with such an asymmetric ability if he were town. I mean besides the whole “I don’t know what my shrines do”.

Hey @Long Con , you also don’t know what your shrines do. Do you have any info to report about your success last night, or how your role differs from Tim that you wouldn’t mind sharing?

Tim is always forthright. He's part of the "lie ridiculous" school. He'll look you dead in the face and say anything regarding mechanics.

In this case I don't think he's lying. The utility of the lie would be pretty meh.

[Scotty]

think gavial's right I'm not w/w with Mac

do you have a read on mac?

Do you have a read on Mac?

Do you have a read on anything?

I wanna hear what you think of the goings on instead of playing patty cake

[KZA]

marmot made a similar argument for my innocence in double elimination mafia where he was mafia and presumably trying to pocket me? after a long verbal deathmatch with moghedian over what i think was probably minutia. i was accused by mog of twisting his words and marmot came in and said that he didn't think i was capable of that?

i guess my question is @Marmot is this a thing you really believe? is there anecdotal evidence for it?

This feels like an "oh shit caught one" moment lol

Made. In the one game I played with him he was supatown. Does he have a wide town range, or scum?

Made is a good player and if hes town I expect him to work his way in to the good books by posting

I got a brief look at his scum game in Fallout 2 and he did very well tonally even though he subbed in to a slot that was going down no matter what, so that's something to be wary of

[KZA]

1. Budweiser- Amazing taste, most alcohol. King of beers
2. PBR - Classic value beer. Decent taste, decent alcohol.
3. Molson Canadian - Alright taste, would have again but not my first choice.
4. Miller Lite - Disappointed, tasted like water I was expecting more tbh

Buy a case of Lucky or I'm death tunneling you

[Scotty]

Marmot do you have any current thoughts and not just quotes of things that happened twenty pages ago where you say things that were already said by three other people

Why you make such blanket untrue statements Syn?

Is there something specific you want my opinion on?

I have no intention of giving you the answer, no. You're certainly capable enough of coming up with something yourself.

I don't like your original post. It's the second time this game you've backhanded me this game, and I don't see the issue here. If you want my thoughts on something, I'll give them to you. I have been posting my thoughts. I don't see a problem with responding to something that came from pages ago, I'm not going to completely ignore everything that's not the last two pages. If three other people have already said the same thing? I don't really know that if I'm in the middle of catching up.

I'd prefer if you could address the concerns you have specifically. Do you have an issue with people responding to something from earlier in the thread? Or is it that it's already been talked about?

just like the first time you said this, it's not a backhand if I am directly addressing you

the issue is that you're saying nothing new

you're safely uninvolved in the discourse

you have no stakes in the conversation if you're just rehashing things already addressed long ago

it distracts from the current and forces everyone to redo the past

marmot is posting and replying to people! well, no, not really. marmot is looking at things that happened before and has just rewritten a few replies made by other people to project the image of confrontation and involvement.

Okay, sure.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Ebwop

This case is suck
This sheep is yuck
Doing this all the time
Wasted on in front of me wine

Your poetry is warping into a weird pseudo ee Cummings/ dr suess hybrid and I love it.

*snap snap snap*

[Qwags]

And I just realized Qwags was missed in my thinking.

Qwags is always mafia even when he isnt.

That's Rule 1, Falcon. Seems rather suspicious that you would miss that.

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Moving Scotty up the list even though he's entertaining Pat Sajak and would vote for me.

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

And I just realized Qwags was missed in my thinking.

Qwags is always mafia even when he isnt.

That's Rule 1, Falcon. Seems rather suspicious that you would miss that.

I'm not Falcon, ya numbskull.

[Qwags]

And I just realized Qwags was missed in my thinking.

Qwags is always mafia even when he isnt.

That's Rule 1, Falcon. Seems rather suspicious that you would miss that.

I'm not Falcon, ya numbskull.

Sounds like something Falcon would say.

[BoKnows]

1. Budweiser- Amazing taste, most alcohol. King of beers
2. PBR - Classic value beer. Decent taste, decent alcohol.
3. Molson Canadian - Alright taste, would have again but not my first choice.
4. Miller Lite - Disappointed, tasted like water I was expecting more tbh

Buy a case of Lucky or I'm death tunneling you

Okay okay next weekend

[Scotty]

So we've got Kza, Syn and TSP essentially cleared.

I think it's possible Mac could be mafia and falsifying a restriction because he visited a shrine and saw a bunch of townies there. But thats some tinfoil so I'm gonna keep him in the town pile.
He line strikes BK, so, guess BK is tp.

Kza
Syn
TSP
Mac
BK

Tim could just be fooling me, but he feels towny. Same kinda goes for quin and Scotty. Both feel towny.

Falc is a bit of a puzzle rn. Maybe it's just I havent played with him for a while, but his style does feel different. Still gotta town side him for now.

Enrique
Long Con
Marmot
Occupy that awkward, uneasy null space

Jack and nachomamma scum leaning.

PoE

Kyle
Daisy
Monkey
Made
Gavial

Thats where I'm at.

This is a scummy post

You start by admitting the possibility of Mac being bad, but then directly contradict it by saying it’s tinfoily, and putting him in your town pile, even though you have an awkward null space.

What does “line strike” mean? And when did Mac do that to BK?

Yeah honestly Mac and Flanders probably scum buddies.
Both great targets for SK’s tonight.
Or we could yeet one of them instead of me if that’s possible.

You’re really dead set on this SK thing. I think Tim is right in that the mafia would have chosen to kill Alison. Why would the SK have chosen to kill Nook? I’ve never randed SK so don’t usually know the protocol for NKs- do they usually target rando, town-contributing or would they be wolf hunting as well?

Just surprised at your confidence in the 2nd kill being an SK

Where did the 2ed kill come from then?
And are you saying you think the 3P is Arsonist or Fool?

I mean it could have easily been a town vig. That would make the most sense, unless this “SK” is seriously town-sided.

I just wouldn’t assume it’s a SK as a 3P.
Maybe a...mercenarious merchant..who does espionage and can steal people’s powers.
I dunno, tinfoiling that one.

[BoKnows]

GIMME GIMME GIMME A PBR AFTER MIDNIGHT

[Scotty]

Is that target you?

[BoKnows]

They don’t sell Lucky at my local Beer store but will make a trip out to the next store to buy a case. Y’all are sleeping on Labatts 50

[Syn]

So we've got Kza, Syn and TSP essentially cleared.

I think it's possible Mac could be mafia and falsifying a restriction because he visited a shrine and saw a bunch of townies there. But thats some tinfoil so I'm gonna keep him in the town pile.
He line strikes BK, so, guess BK is tp.

Kza
Syn
TSP
Mac
BK

Tim could just be fooling me, but he feels towny. Same kinda goes for quin and Scotty. Both feel towny.

Falc is a bit of a puzzle rn. Maybe it's just I havent played with him for a while, but his style does feel different. Still gotta town side him for now.

Enrique
Long Con
Marmot
Occupy that awkward, uneasy null space

Jack and nachomamma scum leaning.

PoE

Kyle
Daisy
Monkey
Made
Gavial

Thats where I'm at.

This is a scummy post

You start by admitting the possibility of Mac being bad, but then directly contradict it by saying it’s tinfoily, and putting him in your town pile, even though you have an awkward null space.

What does “line strike” mean? And when did Mac do that to BK?

Yeah honestly Mac and Flanders probably scum buddies.
Both great targets for SK’s tonight.
Or we could yeet one of them instead of me if that’s possible.

You’re really dead set on this SK thing. I think Tim is right in that the mafia would have chosen to kill Alison. Why would the SK have chosen to kill Nook? I’ve never randed SK so don’t usually know the protocol for NKs- do they usually target rando, town-contributing or would they be wolf hunting as well?

Just surprised at your confidence in the 2nd kill being an SK

Where did the 2ed kill come from then?
And are you saying you think the 3P is Arsonist or Fool?

I mean it could have easily been a town vig. That would make the most sense, unless this “SK” is seriously town-sided.

I just wouldn’t assume it’s a SK as a 3P.
Maybe a...mercenarious merchant..who does espionage and can steal people’s powers.
I dunno, tinfoiling that one.

That seems unnecessarily complex. A power thief that also buys abilities?

[Kylemii]

1. Budweiser- Amazing taste, most alcohol. King of beers
2. PBR - Classic value beer. Decent taste, decent alcohol.
3. Molson Canadian - Alright taste, would have again but not my first choice.
4. Miller Lite - Disappointed, tasted like water I was expecting more tbh

bud light lime

[Kylemii]

blue moon

[Scotty]

Moving Scotty up the list even though he's entertaining Pat Sajak and would vote for me.

What moved me up in your eyes? Lol
Getting sus of you?

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Moving Scotty up the list even though he's entertaining Pat Sajak and would vote for me.

What moved me up in your eyes? Lol
Getting sus of you?

Nope. The tone of your posts toward Kyle. Specifically when asking for reads.
Not unfakeable, but I already had a town lean on you. But the way you seemed hungry and frustrated reads like obv town to me.

[Scotty]

I wouldn’t mind lynching Bo, Quags or Kyle rn
In the same noose, just to see whose neck breaks first and who claws their way out.

That sounds dark. I swear I didn’t annihilate ant hills with magnifying glasses when I was a kid








I do that now

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

1. Budweiser- Amazing taste, most alcohol. King of beers
2. PBR - Classic value beer. Decent taste, decent alcohol.
3. Molson Canadian - Alright taste, would have again but not my first choice.
4. Miller Lite - Disappointed, tasted like water I was expecting more tbh

bud light lime

Awful. You should be ashamed of yourself

[Qwags]

Sauce me some PBR, BK.

[Scotty]

Moving Scotty up the list even though he's entertaining Pat Sajak and would vote for me.

What moved me up in your eyes? Lol
Getting sus of you?

Nope. The tone of your posts toward Kyle. Specifically when asking for reads.
Not unfakeable, but I already had a town lean on you. But the way you seemed hungry and frustrated reads like obv town to me.

Man, it’s totally fake-able!

I just haven’t played a game in like 3 years and I’m antsy to play

[Timsup2nothin]

I have a watcher shrine so killing me is reeee.

Aaaaaand, you didn't use this watcher shrine N1 because?

Ok seeing as I’m asking these questions after they e happened ima let the big guns do it

Wait...are you saying I am a big gun? That may be a problem since today I am a very busy gun and may disappear almost completely once I am done answering pings.

Scotty, you have the bridge!

This is how the titanic sank, skipper

Hilariously enough the theme flavor in maybe the greatest individual mafia performance I have ever produced was the voyage of the Titanic, and it did indeed sink under my paws.

But let's not have it sink this time.


This was a quick pass through...the fifty some odd posts are noted, the ping is answered...may or may not be able to even read these posts before night phase.

Down with ketchup!!! Mustard all the way!!!

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Quags] aubergine

[KZA]

I wouldn’t mind lynching Bo, Quags or Kyle rn
In the same noose, just to see whose neck breaks first and who claws their way out.

That sounds dark. I swear I didn’t annihilate ant hills with magnifying glasses when I was a kid








I do that now

Kyle has the lion's share of potential there

I'm once again recommending the other 2 plus Enrique for an appointment with any vigs out there though

[Qwags]

Who tf is Quags.

[Scotty]

Who tf is Quags.

[VOTE: QWAGS] aubergine

sorry my bro