Bluey: The Werewolf Game - Game Thread (Game Over- Mafia win)

[Marmot]

Heck yeah!

[Marmot]

With JJJ firmly in the POE, and a wealth of info he posted in the thread, he did seem like the more obvious kill choice here despite my conviction on SPF. If he's town, we can listen to his analyses without the tinfoil. If he's a wolf, then we can move on and find the last one.

Clearly it was the latter of the two.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: SPF] aubergine


I still believe she's the final wolf.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nice

[staypositivefriend]

[VOTE: SPF] aubergine


I still believe she's the final wolf.

cool, nice shot! it looks like the village has more than enough information to pull a victory out of this game as long as we do some work and make sure that we all communicate

i'm gonna admit that i've been struggling in games lately to not care about peoples push on me, regardless of what their reasoning is. your push on me in this game feels uniquely distracting to me because i feel like i should be cleared and spewed as a villager on multiple levels (by making ivicitus hardclaim, by clearly not being partnered with jagged).

so, it's hard for me to resist the temptation to just spend the entirety of today aggressively telling you why you're wrong and why you should be reading me as blatant town if you think critically about the game for more than 5 seconds

even so, i don't wanna be aggressive, and i don't wanna create a negative environment in a game that should be an easy villager win even in a world where i ~do~ get mischopped. so, i will try my best to focus on simply finding the last wolf today

that said, i would ask you to keep an open mind about me too. the reason i have so much conviction about your push on me is because i feel like i should be BLATANTLY spewed town in a million different directions, and i want to convince you to see that if you're capable of having your mind changed today

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Bluey hands down the best kids show on TV in a long ass time

I'm also partial to gumball

gumball is good but it's not bluey good. I do also really like Daniel Tiger (but that's like easy mode), Word Girl, and Little Einsteins.

Oh god the little Einsteins, I have nightmares

Ducktales also deserves honorable mention

pinky and the brain and animaniacs >>>

"It was just a joke bro" isn't a convincing defense to me.

I mean I had more then just that and your case on me is based on thinking it’s not a joke when clearly it was.

what are your thoughts on alison thus far? And dyslexicon?

Does this clear or indict dizzy? Thoughts

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Id rather kill tsp probably but

If im being honest I'm probably just gonna sheep the lock town

[Syn]

I'm counter-claiming Marmot

[staypositivefriend]

the fact that im not lock town after invicitus outed himself because of my claim is just....hard for me to grasp. it is truly confusing to me. how do we live in a world where i prevented invictius from doing the sole thing that he intended to do (finding the vilgilante), and allowed the vigilante to hide for as long as they wanted, but i'm still not perceived as blatantly town?

how do we live in a world where i did absolutely nothing to shield alison from being in the POE at any point (and no, the exchange with gavial doesn't count) and even outright voiced suspicion against her slot, only for it to be perceived as me having high partner equity with alison?

i dont get it! but this will be the one and only time today that i intend to complain about it

[Syn]

lol jk no I'm not

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

the fact that im not lock town after invicitus outed himself because of my claim is just....hard for me to grasp. it is truly confusing to me. how do we live in a world where i prevented invictius from doing the sole thing that he intended to do (finding the vilgilante), and allowed the vigilante to hide for as long as they wanted, but i'm still not perceived as blatantly town?

how do we live in a world where i did absolutely nothing to shield alison from being in the POE at any point (and no, the exchange with gavial doesn't count) and even outright voiced suspicion against her slot, only for it to be perceived as me having high partner equity with alison?

i dont get it! but this will be the one and only time today that i intend to complain about it

A lot of people are very townie and there has to be mafia somewhere

I don't personally sr you, but I get it

[Syn]

[VOTE: SPF] aubergine


I still believe she's the final wolf.

cool, nice shot! it looks like the village has more than enough information to pull a victory out of this game as long as we do some work and make sure that we all communicate

i'm gonna admit that i've been struggling in games lately to not care about peoples push on me, regardless of what their reasoning is. your push on me in this game feels uniquely distracting to me because i feel like i should be cleared and spewed as a villager on multiple levels (by making ivicitus hardclaim, by clearly not being partnered with jagged).

so, it's hard for me to resist the temptation to just spend the entirety of today aggressively telling you why you're wrong and why you should be reading me as blatant town if you think critically about the game for more than 5 seconds

even so, i don't wanna be aggressive, and i don't wanna create a negative environment in a game that should be an easy villager win even in a world where i ~do~ get mischopped. so, i will try my best to focus on simply finding the last wolf today

that said, i would ask you to keep an open mind about me too. the reason i have so much conviction about your push on me is because i feel like i should be BLATANTLY spewed town in a million different directions, and i want to convince you to see that if you're capable of having your mind changed today

I hate this post. It's almost exactly what JJJ did yesterday.

the fact that im not lock town after invicitus outed himself because of my claim is just....hard for me to grasp. it is truly confusing to me. how do we live in a world where i prevented invictius from doing the sole thing that he intended to do (finding the vilgilante), and allowed the vigilante to hide for as long as they wanted, but i'm still not perceived as blatantly town?

how do we live in a world where i did absolutely nothing to shield alison from being in the POE at any point (and no, the exchange with gavial doesn't count) and even outright voiced suspicion against her slot, only for it to be perceived as me having high partner equity with alison?

i dont get it! but this will be the one and only time today that i intend to complain about it

And yet I like this post. Neither Invic nor JJJ tried fancy play, so it feels more likely that SPF also wouldn't try it. But it's also possible that they agreed beforehand that the only way through was to "catch" Invic and hope the deep wolf can take the cred and run.

[hollowkatt]

Heck yeah!

Nice shot!

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Plat didn't really get caught or bussed, he got red checked. I have doubt mafia planned for him to die yesterday or intended to bus/catch him

[Marmot]

Long Con can still be in the POE too. Alison did make a vote to save him Day 1.

[staypositivefriend]

Yes but you said my name a bunch and that's close enough

I just determined that as of your gripe, I had said your name exactly three times in this thread, twice as tangential mentions when I was discussing DK and once as an ISO link. What are you talking about?

this, in conjunction with jagged floating nanook's name as a probable slot at the end of yesterday, pushes me into feeling like nanook is a villager

i got the sense yesterday that jagged ~needed~ to keep nanook in his POE and that he had a vested interest in making sure that nanook would remain a viable chop option - his treatment of nanook in general reeked of someone with a specific agenda, and i'm inclined to think that the agenda was to create enough suspicion against nanook to get him mischopped - a mischop that was probably needed for jagged and his team to win the game

wont ride or die w/this read until i look deeper, but at first glance, i think that jagged's interactions with nanook reflect well on nanook

[staypositivefriend]

how do we think that jagged would treat his partner in this position?

[MacDougall]

Had to reset the poll. My bad.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: SPF] aubergine


I still believe she's the final wolf.

cool, nice shot! it looks like the village has more than enough information to pull a victory out of this game as long as we do some work and make sure that we all communicate

i'm gonna admit that i've been struggling in games lately to not care about peoples push on me, regardless of what their reasoning is. your push on me in this game feels uniquely distracting to me because i feel like i should be cleared and spewed as a villager on multiple levels (by making ivicitus hardclaim, by clearly not being partnered with jagged).

so, it's hard for me to resist the temptation to just spend the entirety of today aggressively telling you why you're wrong and why you should be reading me as blatant town if you think critically about the game for more than 5 seconds

even so, i don't wanna be aggressive, and i don't wanna create a negative environment in a game that should be an easy villager win even in a world where i ~do~ get mischopped. so, i will try my best to focus on simply finding the last wolf today

that said, i would ask you to keep an open mind about me too. the reason i have so much conviction about your push on me is because i feel like i should be BLATANTLY spewed town in a million different directions, and i want to convince you to see that if you're capable of having your mind changed today

I won't be focused solely on you, but you are absolutely not blatant town, so no that doesn't help.

[Syn]

Plat didn't really get caught or bussed, he got red checked. I have doubt mafia planned for him to die yesterday or intended to bus/catch him

Yes, it was a red check, but his plan seemed to be to spin it as a vig shot and he just so happened to shoot the same person the wolves shot. It got set in stone when SPF counterclaimed and Invic immediately went "A'ight, real vig outed, peace."

Invic defends SPF after the flip. SPF says Nanook is town. Gavial outs red check on Invic at 4:20 (blaze it). SPF replies 4:25. General murmurings about the track. Gavial @s Invic at 5:03. Invic replies 5:16. SPF drops a backread on Invic at 5:17. Gavial says he is going to track JJJ or SPF at 5:21. SPF says she's counter-claiming vig at 5:22. Invic says he's leaving at 5:23. Invic replies to SPF at 5:25, conceding. SPF retracts CC at 5:26.

That timeline leaves an hour, tops, for any would-be wolf plan.

[Marmot]

JJJ didn't sub into the game until after Invictus was caught and gave up.

[staypositivefriend]

(blaze it)

[Syn]

JJJ didn't sub into the game until after Invictus was caught and gave up.

If you'd like to be pedantic, Gavial says Alison or SPF.

Alison was replaced by JJJ.

[Syn]

You have another shot, right, Marmot?

[Marmot]

JJJ didn't sub into the game until after Invictus was caught and gave up.

If you'd like to be pedantic, Gavial says Alison or SPF.

Alison was replaced by JJJ.

Yep, I guess what I'm saying is that slot was afk when everything went down, so only SPF could've truley helped plan it if she's scum. Alison probably didn't.

[Marmot]

You have another shot, right, Marmot?

Sure do! Would you like a prize tonight?

[Syn]

JJJ didn't sub into the game until after Invictus was caught and gave up.

If you'd like to be pedantic, Gavial says Alison or SPF.

Alison was replaced by JJJ.

Yep, I guess what I'm saying is that slot was afk when everything went down, so only SPF could've truley helped plan it if she's scum. Alison probably didn't.

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Good point.

[Syn]

You have another shot, right, Marmot?

Sure do! Would you like a prize tonight?

Sure lol

I'm guessing the new POE will be SPF/LC/me, and I don't have much of an opinion on what order that is in. There's enough mischops to waste one on me.

[Marmot]

Also, I do have a reason that SPF could be town. If the scum team was exactly SPF/JJJ, I would've expected them to kill me instead last night to prevent the town from getting more KP in reducing their numbers. The fact that they didn't does make me think that they thought I was gonna shoot SPF, and decided to let me murder a townie with my first shot.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Eh I think scum kinda have to gamble on vig shooting wrong, very good chance seth was gonna get another red check

[staypositivefriend]

Also, I do have a reason that SPF could be town. If the scum team was exactly SPF/JJJ, I would've expected them to kill me instead last night to prevent the town from getting more KP in reducing their numbers. The fact that they didn't does make me think that they thought I was gonna shoot SPF, and decided to let me murder a townie with my first shot.

for your consideration, something i noticed earlier is that it felt kinda like jagged was trying to pit us against each other toward the middle of yesterday:

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 85#p788685

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 55#p789055

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 05#p789105

^^these are all posts i would make if i was a wolf and i wanted to subtly instigate arguments in the thread between a town v town dynamic. these questions from jagged feel very pointed - i think he wanted us to get trapped in a spiral of arguing with each other and fos'ing each other as a way to cause as much discordance in the village as he possibly could

[hollowkatt]

Also, I do have a reason that SPF could be town. If the scum team was exactly SPF/JJJ, I would've expected them to kill me instead last night to prevent the town from getting more KP in reducing their numbers. The fact that they didn't does make me think that they thought I was gonna shoot SPF, and decided to let me murder a townie with my first shot.

kinda feeling that yeah. Like if SPF was wolf with JJJ they'd have tried to nudge you into shooting somewhere else, especially b/c in that instance SPF was the "deep" wolf and JJJ would have been the "come in for a day, suck up bandwidth, and die" wolf

[Long Con]

If you want me in the POE, then fine, don't take me to final three. Ideally we can close this game out before then.

[Syn]

Perusing D2, Gavial jokes he'll track LC instead of JJJ, and Marmot says he's shooting SPF.

Of special note with the latter is that Marmot spent some time genuinely casing SPF. And of note about the former is that Gavial's replaced me in the POE with LC after Marmot's claim.

[Marmot]

There's a relative dearth of things to talk about, even if from the Invictus side those things are of significance. I'd be more comfortable if I had more content to develop my perspectives. Gun to my head Long Con is not Invictus's teammate.

Pretty damn sure LC is town. I could feel Invi really wanting to go there D1, and for reasons of "lack of town tells" not anything that is "gotcha" which it might be with a teammate. Invi dislikes unnecessary bussing.

I like this post from Dizzy on Day 2. I think this is a good look for LC.

[Marmot]

If you want me in the POE, then fine, don't take me to final three. Ideally we can close this game out before then.

I like everything about your play overall, particularly how you handled Alison. It's really just her vote for you that makes me say that.

[Syn]

I put very little stock in meta reads like that.

[hollowkatt]

marmot's just confirmed town, SPF I think has to be town b/c if the team was JJJ/SPF they're counting on marmot somehow not shooting at either of them? Also I like SPFs post where she lays out the JJJ posts that she'd have made if she were wolfing.
Kinda like Syn for his acceptance of being POE and the timeline post, which is townie b/c it exists, wolf Syn has no reason to say that

Everyone else getting re-evaluated today, probably starting with TSP b/c I remember his posts the least.

[hollowkatt]

There's a relative dearth of things to talk about, even if from the Invictus side those things are of significance. I'd be more comfortable if I had more content to develop my perspectives. Gun to my head Long Con is not Invictus's teammate.

Pretty damn sure LC is town. I could feel Invi really wanting to go there D1, and for reasons of "lack of town tells" not anything that is "gotcha" which it might be with a teammate. Invi dislikes unnecessary bussing.

I like this post from Dizzy on Day 2. I think this is a good look for LC.

yeah, I can buy that. Dizzy I think is town b/c there's no agenda behind his posts other than find and kill wolves.

[Syn]

marmot's just confirmed town, SPF I think has to be town b/c if the team was JJJ/SPF they're counting on marmot somehow not shooting at either of them? Also I like SPFs post where she lays out the JJJ posts that she'd have made if she were wolfing.
Kinda like Syn for his acceptance of being POE and the timeline post, which is townie b/c it exists, wolf Syn has no reason to say that

Everyone else getting re-evaluated today, probably starting with TSP b/c I remember his posts the least.

It just makes sense to resolve my slot, tbh. I have the least connection to either side. Even JJJ in his fake casing couldn't come up with anything more than "Well, the dk/Syn slot exists." So while there isn't a specific reason to suspect me immediately, that changes the longer I'm alive. Marmot using his shot on me means there's no possible "Maybe it's just Syn" case D4 or beyond.

[Marmot]

Town

Dyslexicon
Long Con
hollowkatt
NANOOK


Maybe

DkKoba / Syn


POE

TonyStarkPrime
staypositivefriend



I am putting TSP back in my POE, I'm probably giving him a little too much credit for his Day 1.

[staypositivefriend]

I’m being pulled away and may not be back by the deadline. I suggest shooting Tony.

Dizzy, I’ve been treated like a foregone conclusion by at least four people. You’re not the only one.

Don’t waste a vig shot on me. I am town, and I can only hope folks will be ready to listen next time. This thread is a case study in intra-town toxicity, and it will be an even bigger problem whenever I’m dead. Too many folks are not at all ready to contend with this game after I flip despite my best efforts to encourage broader solving. It doesn’t have to be that way, and we can be better. Give me the dang chance and I can do whatever I can to make y’all listen.

Also Nanook’s posts suck and I’ve not seen any convincing sell that he’s town. If not Tony shoot him.

does jagged make these posts if his partner is tony?

[Marmot]

marmot's just confirmed town, SPF I think has to be town b/c if the team was JJJ/SPF they're counting on marmot somehow not shooting at either of them? Also I like SPFs post where she lays out the JJJ posts that she'd have made if she were wolfing.
Kinda like Syn for his acceptance of being POE and the timeline post, which is townie b/c it exists, wolf Syn has no reason to say that

Everyone else getting re-evaluated today, probably starting with TSP b/c I remember his posts the least.

It just makes sense to resolve my slot, tbh. I have the least connection to either side. Even JJJ in his fake casing couldn't come up with anything more than "Well, the dk/Syn slot exists." So while there isn't a specific reason to suspect me immediately, that changes the longer I'm alive. Marmot using his shot on me means there's no possible "Maybe it's just Syn" case D4 or beyond.

How in the world could JJJ come away with that result when your slot has combined for the most posts in the game lol.

[Marmot]

I’m being pulled away and may not be back by the deadline. I suggest shooting Tony.

Dizzy, I’ve been treated like a foregone conclusion by at least four people. You’re not the only one.

Don’t waste a vig shot on me. I am town, and I can only hope folks will be ready to listen next time. This thread is a case study in intra-town toxicity, and it will be an even bigger problem whenever I’m dead. Too many folks are not at all ready to contend with this game after I flip despite my best efforts to encourage broader solving. It doesn’t have to be that way, and we can be better. Give me the dang chance and I can do whatever I can to make y’all listen.

Also Nanook’s posts suck and I’ve not seen any convincing sell that he’s town. If not Tony shoot him.

does jagged make these posts if his partner is tony?

What do you think?

[staypositivefriend]

I’m being pulled away and may not be back by the deadline. I suggest shooting Tony.

Dizzy, I’ve been treated like a foregone conclusion by at least four people. You’re not the only one.

Don’t waste a vig shot on me. I am town, and I can only hope folks will be ready to listen next time. This thread is a case study in intra-town toxicity, and it will be an even bigger problem whenever I’m dead. Too many folks are not at all ready to contend with this game after I flip despite my best efforts to encourage broader solving. It doesn’t have to be that way, and we can be better. Give me the dang chance and I can do whatever I can to make y’all listen.

Also Nanook’s posts suck and I’ve not seen any convincing sell that he’s town. If not Tony shoot him.

does jagged make these posts if his partner is tony?

What do you think?

i would think that the first post from jagged reflects well on tony if the second post didn't exist. with the existence of that second post, it feels like jagged is trying to have it both ways - dissociating himself from tony while still providing him with a way to push for someone else to be shot. i would not be able to comfortably rule it out as partner interaction, but i was interested in hearing other takes

[staypositivefriend]

marmot's just confirmed town, SPF I think has to be town b/c if the team was JJJ/SPF they're counting on marmot somehow not shooting at either of them? Also I like SPFs post where she lays out the JJJ posts that she'd have made if she were wolfing.
Kinda like Syn for his acceptance of being POE and the timeline post, which is townie b/c it exists, wolf Syn has no reason to say that

Everyone else getting re-evaluated today, probably starting with TSP b/c I remember his posts the least.

It just makes sense to resolve my slot, tbh. I have the least connection to either side. Even JJJ in his fake casing couldn't come up with anything more than "Well, the dk/Syn slot exists." So while there isn't a specific reason to suspect me immediately, that changes the longer I'm alive. Marmot using his shot on me means there's no possible "Maybe it's just Syn" case D4 or beyond.

i find this post villagery

[Syn]

yes it is but still shoot me

[Marmot]

I'm 2 for 2 on shooting wolves this year as a vig and I don't wanna fuck it up.

[hollowkatt]

marmot's just confirmed town, SPF I think has to be town b/c if the team was JJJ/SPF they're counting on marmot somehow not shooting at either of them? Also I like SPFs post where she lays out the JJJ posts that she'd have made if she were wolfing.
Kinda like Syn for his acceptance of being POE and the timeline post, which is townie b/c it exists, wolf Syn has no reason to say that

Everyone else getting re-evaluated today, probably starting with TSP b/c I remember his posts the least.

It just makes sense to resolve my slot, tbh. I have the least connection to either side. Even JJJ in his fake casing couldn't come up with anything more than "Well, the dk/Syn slot exists." So while there isn't a specific reason to suspect me immediately, that changes the longer I'm alive. Marmot using his shot on me means there's no possible "Maybe it's just Syn" case D4 or beyond.

maybe? I dunno?

[Marmot]

Me: I suspect spf, we should resolve her
SPF: wtf! No way! I'm blatant obvious town. Never yeet me

Also me: Dk/Syn have basically spewed themselves town
Syn: Wtf! Resolve me this instant! Vig me if you have to. I won't stand to be taken to F3