The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[Master Radishes]

People who do big font/bold/underlined/whatever realise people's eyes just glaze over at that, right? Like I don't even pretend to read it.

[Vulgard]

Assuming my Marmot analysis is correct then Daisy is the most likely partner.

omg! I am not mafia buddies with marmot!!

what is wrong with u?

I've explained why you're the most likely. You're simply more likely than anyone else. LC voted completely off wagon day 3 (which is lol if Marmot is a wolf, since Marmot almost got yeeted that day, and that's why I think LC isn't mafia in a mafia!Marmot world). Kyle voted Marmot. MR voted Marmot.

It's that simple.

[TonyStarkPrime]

tim going around here talking about he is the reason last 2 wolves got lynched.

talking about how he isleading town.

yep this is a lie I got the last two wolves

[Master Radishes]

I refuse to accept that someone believes you 'play' Mafia by just AtE-ing the shit out of everything anyone says about them.

Like what even is that.


(Great way to avoid faking a solving mindset though.)


(/fuel on fire)

[Vulgard]

DaisyCloud, if you're a villager, then you should know exactly who the last two wolves are from your POV unless you don't accept my clears.

How about you talk to me about it instead of consistently banging your head against my take on your alignment? You're not even the yeet today, you have time to think.

[Marmot]

Assuming my Marmot analysis is correct then Daisy is the most likely partner.

omg! I am not mafia buddies with marmot!!

what is wrong with u?

I know I'm not your mafia teammate, but asking things like "what is wrong with u" doesn't help imo.

It's mafia, you're gonna be suspected at some point. I have been all game. If you're town, I'd encourage you to tune some of it out and keep working despite that.

[DaisyCloud]

And once again Daisy entered thread to call out anyone sussing her and not commenting at all on the game state.

become i waste caught up in the game!! I saw i had a ping. I read the ping. I most definitely had to answer that ping because he said I never voted a wolf. that is a clear lie. he said I never gave reads and that is also a lie.

[Vulgard]

And before you go "I'm not talking to someone who misrepresents me!" which you might do. You can talk to someone else about it as well. I don't care if it's me you talk to, or someone else. I just want to see the mindset of a townie trying to PoE the last few wolves, a mindset I currently struggle to see.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Marmot have you talked to me about Kyle yet

[Gavial]

I guess this'll just be a silent EOD and I'll die without any discussion?

Current reads right now:


Tim
Scotty
Kyle
TSP
Daisy
Vulgard
Gavial
Long Con
MR

I don't have much insight on who the 3P is. It appears not to be among Gavial and Scotty. I don't think TSP is it. That leaves pretty much everyone else (except for probably MR, due to the inactivity of his original slot).

Can you talk to me about Kyle

Oh look Marmot marked it for us.
Yellow means his partner and Blue means SK.
Thank you @Marmot

[Master Radishes]

I can't speak to proper iso solving etc but I got falcon by how he treated me, and I'm thinking of Marmot similarly. Marmot's played with me a few times; I'd expect some half-assed though put into a read on me at least.

I don't think I actually know why he thinks I'm the scummiest (as per his most recent readslist). Like I know it's thread consensus I'm scummy, but that's sort of the point - Marmot's read on me feels like it came about because the wind blew his weathervane towards me.

(Or maybe I'm just falling victim to thread consensus myself.)

[Vulgard]

I think she hasn't caught up with the game yet. I've just explained the whole "she never made reads" thing and she's not even addressing that.

I'll stop talking so she can catch up. That's a courtesy anyone should be permitted.

[DaisyCloud]

And once again Daisy entered thread to call out anyone sussing her and not commenting at all on the game state.

Sus is the @DaisyCloud

you and vulgard and scotty are sus!.

see i can do it too.

add in a very personal insults about your life choices too! see more sus!!

[TonyStarkPrime]

Daisy I’ll pay you a gold coin if you take a break and then come back with the names of two wolves

[Gavial]

Assuming my Marmot analysis is correct then Daisy is the most likely partner.

omg! I am not mafia buddies with marmot!!

what is wrong with u?

I know I'm not your mafia teammate, but asking things like "what is wrong with u" doesn't help imo.

It's mafia, you're gonna be suspected at some point. I have been all game. If you're town, I'd encourage you to tune some of it out and keep working despite that.

Why did you feel a need to say that?

[Master Radishes]

I can't speak to proper iso solving etc but I got falcon by how he treated me, and I'm thinking of Marmot similarly. Marmot's played with me a few times; I'd expect some half-assed though put into a read on me at least.

I don't think I actually know why he thinks I'm the scummiest (as per his most recent readslist). Like I know it's thread consensus I'm scummy, but that's sort of the point - Marmot's read on me feels like it came about because the wind blew his weathervane towards me.

(Or maybe I'm just falling victim to thread consensus myself.)

Like I get v!Vulgard sussing me. He had a strong TR of me, but when three or four other people start saying the opposite your confidence takes a battering and you doubt yourself.

If Marmot explained why I'm bottom of his list I missed it tbh.

[Marmot]

Marmot have you talked to me about Kyle yet

Yes, I answered last page somewhere.

[Vulgard]

I'm not sure how you're taking criticism of your play in a forum mafia game as "insults about your life choices." We're playing a game, not debating your value as a person.

[DaisyCloud]

Messed up the post but I’ll try and be nice.
I mean dude your brain is malfunctioning because Marmot is 100% scum in my eyes with 100% Positivity.

This is not nice tbh. There are ways to explain to someone you disagree with them without dismissing their cognitive capabilities.

I agree. people shouldn't just be insulting people. and just because someone disagrees does make them stupid. and doesn't make them scum.

[Marmot]

I can't speak to proper iso solving etc but I got falcon by how he treated me, and I'm thinking of Marmot similarly. Marmot's played with me a few times; I'd expect some half-assed though put into a read on me at least.

I don't think I actually know why he thinks I'm the scummiest (as per his most recent readslist). Like I know it's thread consensus I'm scummy, but that's sort of the point - Marmot's read on me feels like it came about because the wind blew his weathervane towards me.

(Or maybe I'm just falling victim to thread consensus myself.)

Like I get v!Vulgard sussing me. He had a strong TR of me, but when three or four other people start saying the opposite your confidence takes a battering and you doubt yourself.

If Marmot explained why I'm bottom of his list I missed it tbh.

You've missed a lot dude, but I talked about you a lot yesterday, as well as earlier today.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I guess this'll just be a silent EOD and I'll die without any discussion?

Current reads right now:


Tim
Scotty
Kyle
TSP
Daisy
Vulgard
Gavial
Long Con
MR

I don't have much insight on who the 3P is. It appears not to be among Gavial and Scotty. I don't think TSP is it. That leaves pretty much everyone else (except for probably MR, due to the inactivity of his original slot).

Can you talk to me about Kyle

He's been in his own world while still contributing, I don't think he fits on a team with falcon.

What do you think of him?

I think he has a smaller game impact than I’d like to see at this stage but I’ll look into falcon stuff

[DaisyCloud]

I still don't see the post or posts where LongCon claimed.

[Master Radishes]

I can't speak to proper iso solving etc but I got falcon by how he treated me, and I'm thinking of Marmot similarly. Marmot's played with me a few times; I'd expect some half-assed though put into a read on me at least.

I don't think I actually know why he thinks I'm the scummiest (as per his most recent readslist). Like I know it's thread consensus I'm scummy, but that's sort of the point - Marmot's read on me feels like it came about because the wind blew his weathervane towards me.

(Or maybe I'm just falling victim to thread consensus myself.)

Like I get v!Vulgard sussing me. He had a strong TR of me, but when three or four other people start saying the opposite your confidence takes a battering and you doubt yourself.

If Marmot explained why I'm bottom of his list I missed it tbh.

You've missed a lot dude, but I talked about you a lot yesterday, as well as earlier today.

Okay fair, can you summarise?

[Gavial]

I won’t be here at EoD.
Daisy still never voted Marmot and never will.

[Kylemii]

@Marmot appologies if you responded to this already, i was wanting to know why you vaerminaed scotty and how you've used the information gained from doing so to advance your read on him

[Marmot]

Assuming my Marmot analysis is correct then Daisy is the most likely partner.

omg! I am not mafia buddies with marmot!!

what is wrong with u?

I know I'm not your mafia teammate, but asking things like "what is wrong with u" doesn't help imo.

It's mafia, you're gonna be suspected at some point. I have been all game. If you're town, I'd encourage you to tune some of it out and keep working despite that.

Why did you feel a need to say that?

Why did you feel a need to bold that in big letters?

I responded to Daisy's statement, what does it look like?

[Gavial]

I'm not sure how you're taking criticism of your play in a forum mafia game as "insults about your life choices." We're playing a game, not debating your value as a person.

Think they open wolfed because I said as scum they are an AtE Douche.
I don’t rescind that either I don’t enjoy playing with that.

[DaisyCloud]

I think Tim is town, and I didn't want to yeet falcon for reasons unrelated to this game.

For context, this post came during I believe twilight after Day 1 ended. Sean was yeeted over falcon 6-3.

@Long Con is this something you can explain now or no?

Yeah, the Bluey game is over. Falcon had just been yeeted as town on Day 1 in that game on the same day, and I didn't want to yeet him on Day 1 here as well.

What are the odds mafia still have a blocker in their midst?

Probably pretty good odds, considering the multifunctional nature of many of the roles. JOATs everywhere.

Well, I guess Exe isn't 3p then, whatever Exe is.

I'm think exe is executioner

Still never heard of it before, so it's a role that has the win con of certain executions happening?

LC is blind as a bat apparently and he’s very vague about everything when he visits shrines.

“I now know that nothing happens.

*unless*

And *unless* hasn't happened yet.”

Whatever that means

I think LC is 3P/scum

No, I am town. I can claim my full role if it will help you out.

Sure, why not? I don't see the harm.

I can visit any shrine I wish each night, and if a player who visits the same shrine as me gets nightkilled then I get their most recent/current night action report.

oh!

I kept looking at the beauty and the beast vid. I got distracted.

[Gavial]

Like any Scum that do massive AtE approaches is a douche.
Simple.

[Gavial]

There are other ways to play that isn’t like ewww.
Try it.

[Gavial]

AtE is one thing, but the way Daisy been at it is on a whole noter level.

I liked the way I played with Town Daisy in that other game.
That was a fun Daisy!

[Master Radishes]

Ah yes, personal insults. You know you're winning an argument when.

[TonyStarkPrime]

yes marmot claim

[Marmot]

@Marmot appologies if you responded to this already, i was wanting to know why you vaerminaed scotty and how you've used the information gained from doing so to advance your read on him

I was worried that he might be a possible 3P, so I wanted to learn one of his abilities to see if I could gain any extra insight, but it's come out today that he probably isn't. And since I have the same ability, I don't know of anything meaningful to do with that.

[Gavial]

I don’t directly dislike if you AtE as Town but don’t do it as Scum.

[Gavial]

Because I hate when you do it as scum

[Marmot]

Like any Scum that do massive AtE approaches is a douche.
Simple.

Fuck off dude. These insults are getting out of hand. Please. Just. Stop.

[Vulgard]

AtE is one thing, but the way Daisy been at it is on a whole noter level.

I liked the way I played with Town Daisy in that other game.
That was a fun Daisy!

...Wait. Did Town Daisy never do this?

[Master Radishes]

Can we also remember the Syndicate offers a 'moderator on duty' specifically for people feeling frustrated to rant to so that they don't make the thread toxic.


If anyone is actually frustrated and feeling insulty towards someone else, PM JaggedJimmyJay and tell him why.

[Marmot]

yes marmot claim

Hold on a sec

[Gavial]

Like any Scum that do massive AtE approaches is a douche.
Simple.

Fuck off dude. These insults are getting out of hand. Please. Just. Stop.

Geez Sorry.

[Kylemii]

@Marmot xid you learn anything else

[Marmot]

Sorry if I'm going over the line. I'm trying to draw this game back to where we can discuss things without resorting to insults.

Gav, I agree that Daisy is not responding in a manner that is easy to engage with, but I don't think the manner you called it out is helping either. I think it'll just aggravate it.

Daisy, I understand being suspected can be stressful. I also love that you're an emotional being and can express it, but I do think that too much of it in a mafia game can be a hindrance.


Anyway yes, the MoD utility is an important and often useful one to use if you're feeling frustrated. Please PM the bejeezus out of JJJ or whoever's in charge of it this game.

[Marmot]

@Marmot xid you learn anything else

Last night? No.

I'm gathering my other night actions in a sec.

[Timsup2nothin]

can anyone who's good at math help me figure out how many misses we can afford before we're in the trouble zone

One. I posted an analysis earlier.

And let me rephrase...if we miss today "the trouble zone" I think we are in is "must hit." If we miss today I legit think it is the last one we can have and not lose...barring help from the 3P or a missed guess from me on the 3P wincon situation (very possible).

[DaisyCloud]

The main principles of my case against you, DaisyCloud, are that:

- You are less towny than most players in the game fmpov. TSP buried Falcon, Tim is an un-CC'd vig who shot Mac, Scotty's been towny throughout the game, Gavial's been in townmeta, and Long Con is very unlikely to be mafia if Marmot's a wolf.
- Since we're currently flipping Marmot, with the assumption he's mafia I have to look at the other players. These other players include you and MR.
- You are tied to wolf!Marmot more directly than MR is, because you voted off his wagon on day 3, when I suspect he was saved.

These are the facts that have nothing to do with your contributions to the game, other than the first point I suppose.

If Marmot isn't mafia, then I think LC's scum equity rises naturally, since I don't think the TSP/Tim/Scotty/Gavial group contains a wolf. Maybe the 3p, but not a wolf. In that world, you might be town.

There's also the world where you are 3p, but I'm not seriously considering it at the moment.

■ i have been towny throughout game!! more so then you, Gavial, scotty, Marmot, radishes, and you know it! Gavial has been voting wrong and do has tim and Scotty. ore do then me

■ I am not scum buddieswith anyon! i! am! town!!

■ other people voted mog too!! I was wrong to sus mog but do were others!!! being wrong doesn't make me mafia!!





you can not be serious!! none of this indicates I am scum.

ex.
tim being uncced vig doesn't change the fact that he votes wrong. him not dying so far. like that stuff is sus.

is it enough to sus tim and vote him? no. it's a finger of suspicion but you need moar.


and how r u sooo completed certain that Marmot is the lynch today?


that is very suspicious .



I swear for once people stop talking about me in this way.

how is it thst my votes are soooo super important but also full of doom and also the difference between and town won or loss but also a throw away vanity vote.


u guys are disrespectful. don't even bother to listen to me.


we could have been talking about my nite actions. figure out if thry got switched maybe. and if not then what it means. who could be mafia based on my infos.

[DaisyCloud]

but no. let's just sus her. let's just make her have to defend last half of day

[DaisyCloud]

heaven forbid we work together and figure out who is mafia.

let's just be sheep

[TonyStarkPrime]

@Marmot appologies if you responded to this already, i was wanting to know why you vaerminaed scotty and how you've used the information gained from doing so to advance your read on him

I was worried that he might be a possible 3P, so I wanted to learn one of his abilities to see if I could gain any extra insight, but it's come out today that he probably isn't. And since I have the same ability, I don't know of anything meaningful to do with that.

Oh oops I remember all of this

[Timsup2nothin]

I can't speak to proper iso solving etc but I got falcon by how he treated me, and I'm thinking of Marmot similarly. Marmot's played with me a few times; I'd expect some half-assed though put into a read on me at least.

I don't think I actually know why he thinks I'm the scummiest (as per his most recent readslist). Like I know it's thread consensus I'm scummy, but that's sort of the point - Marmot's read on me feels like it came about because the wind blew his weathervane towards me.

(Or maybe I'm just falling victim to thread consensus myself.)

It could be a last ditch effort at distancing. Ask him in wolf chat and let us know.