Metalmarsh89 wrote:And yet you can still type better than SVS.

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Metalmarsh89 wrote:And yet you can still type better than SVS.
Ahh yes, I did miss that but saw I got some vote(s).Canucklehead wrote:Mongoose:
What say you to my campaign of defamation against your character? Or are you a "don't address shit in the night" kind of gal? Seems odd that before you left you specifically said you'd be watching out for your name to come up, then you completely ignore my novella about your potential baddiness...
I would think a civ taking heat would switch a lynch to someone they'd been openly suspicious of though. Probably someone they and maybe others thought was bad anyway. AP is not such a person. If anything it looks like the lynch was switched at random without a care for who died instead - which suggests baddie to me.Canucklehead wrote:Also, I'm a little shocked that many players are refusing to see how the lynching of AP in Made's stead could actually be an indication of Made's civviness, not baddiness.I'm of the mind that it is pretty much a coin flip either way.
Take off the blinders, folks.
linki: Hooray for houseboats! So much superior to regular boats and regular houses! I look forward to your response, Mongoooose.
I can be a fast and loose player and get myself into hot water for nonsense things that aren't of any substance at all, so history dictates that I will often go overboard in trying to sound clean and sterile. So there's no possible way someone will misinterpret what I've said. I mean, I've been an ultimate gaffe machine on here, and I'm lucky I didn't earn some sort of Bidenesque moniker.Canucklehead wrote:I'm going through Mongoose's posts and am finding her stance on Hedgie a little hard to understand. Early on, she's unsure:Then just a little later, she is willing to speculate that Hedgie was probably on DF's team:Mongoose wrote:I've got nothing out of that, except maybe he was trying to gain civvie cred by throwing Hedgie under the bus? If she is even bad, which I'm not totally convinced of yet.
The rest is very generic, not a lot going on. Lots of "throat clearing" phrases.
The next (RL) day, Hedgie is downright suspicious for Mongoose:Mongoose wrote:Yeah, sorry. The one where he abruptly mentioned Hedgie. It didn't seem weird at the time, because others were mentioning her too, but in hindsight, I wonder if someone told him to get in here and make a throwaway comment.S~V~S wrote:Read what that way? One of Faradays posts? Which one?Mongoose wrote:I read it way more as distancing than protecting.S~V~S wrote:There are a lot of people here, not sure why they aren't talking
Epi~ you say something CAN be gleaned, but don't say what. Willing to share, or watching & waiting?
Linki, ah thanks Made, I was confuzzled, long day at workNote the repetition of the word "abrupt", which she previously used to characterize DF's "distancing" suspicions of Hedgie. This to me very much sounds like rehearsed or overly careful language....especially since just a few hours ago she wasn't sure why she had used that word:Mongoose wrote:Personally, I found her seemingly abrupt suspicion of SVS suspicious in of itself.juliets wrote:I am trying to understand the suspicion on Hedgie. I went back through her posts and all I saw was objection to her using the word "probably" in the above quote, the feeling being that she was trying to hedge her bets. Is this all that is out there or did I miss a big suspicion on her about something else?Hedgeowl wrote:Ok, gotta run, so voting SVS for now in case I dont make it back i time.
My feelings currently are that either MP or SVS are possibly a baddie, but probably not both. SVS's super focus on Made earlier in the game, made me suspicious, but then he redirection to Metal I found equally interesting. I would think of her voting for her top suspect. That also might have been to redirect focus from the llama-Enri-Made arguments, but I still thought it was unlike her. It made me think she was reacting to the heat she was getting about her Made suspicions.
Votes SVSBackpedalling b/c the Hedgie suspicion wasn't catching on in the thread?? (Perhaps because it was too associated with DF?)Mongoose wrote:In the intervening days, I've gone off you as a suspect anyway. I'm not sure what I meant by "abrupt" to be honest.
And then these two posts, which are very, very hand-wavey/"Move along! Nothing to see here!":Mongoose wrote:I think we were just jumpy and looking for any little tidbit to go on so early in the game.
But since you've been gone (I hope you had fun with A&E&E&C, by the way!), we've got some stronger suspecs now, as you can see.Again, note the very similar language between these two posts.Mongoose wrote:I think we were just overly jumpy in trying to find the smallest little thing that could be suspicious early on. I don't see what the big deal is now either. I think I just needed a bit of distance from the game(which setting my own game allowed me) to see that.
I honestly don't know what to make of this. Do Mongoose's posts always sound this scripted/overly careful? That's the impression I'm getting from them which, coupled with Epi's interesting observation about the possible disingenuous nature of her interactions with DF, is kinda making me think that Mongoose was a DF teamie, and that her strange backing off of the Hedgie thing is maybe a belated effort to do some distancing of her own after a failed attempt to tie DF and Hedgie together.
I dunno. I fully recognize that this is a very conjectural and not great case.....but I do find the Mongoose/DF connection interesting, and I think I'm going to vote there today. I don't expect anyone to follow me, but I do encourage you to take a close look at Mongoose's posts, which just read a litte goofy in tone to me...
(I agree on the part about Made being possibly civ after that. I'll definitely be hesitant to vote him again due to that lynch save. I think I already said that yesterday, but I think it bears repeating).Canucklehead wrote:Also, I'm a little shocked that many players are refusing to see how the lynching of AP in Made's stead could actually be an indication of Made's civviness, not baddiness.I'm of the mind that it is pretty much a coin flip either way.
Take off the blinders, folks.
linki: Hooray for houseboats! So much superior to regular boats and regular houses! I look forward to your response, Mongoooose.
Yeah, I'm not really thinking that if it was a civ-thing that it would have been a switch, though. I think if it was a civ-thing it was very much NOT a "switch" in the traditional, active sense. I don't know how much I can say without incurring host wrath.Bullzeye wrote:I would think a civ taking heat would switch a lynch to someone they'd been openly suspicious of though. Probably someone they and maybe others thought was bad anyway. AP is not such a person. If anything it looks like the lynch was switched at random without a care for who died instead - which suggests baddie to me.Canucklehead wrote:Also, I'm a little shocked that many players are refusing to see how the lynching of AP in Made's stead could actually be an indication of Made's civviness, not baddiness.I'm of the mind that it is pretty much a coin flip either way.
Take off the blinders, folks.
linki: Hooray for houseboats! So much superior to regular boats and regular houses! I look forward to your response, Mongoooose.
This ^^ so much. Civ switchers don't switch it to random people.Bullzeye wrote:I would think a civ taking heat would switch a lynch to someone they'd been openly suspicious of though. Probably someone they and maybe others thought was bad anyway. AP is not such a person. If anything it looks like the lynch was switched at random without a care for who died instead - which suggests baddie to me.Canucklehead wrote:Also, I'm a little shocked that many players are refusing to see how the lynching of AP in Made's stead could actually be an indication of Made's civviness, not baddiness.I'm of the mind that it is pretty much a coin flip either way.
Take off the blinders, folks.
linki: Hooray for houseboats! So much superior to regular boats and regular houses! I look forward to your response, Mongoooose.
Completely agree. A civvie lynch switch to AP makes zero sense.Bullzeye wrote:I would think a civ taking heat would switch a lynch to someone they'd been openly suspicious of though. Probably someone they and maybe others thought was bad anyway. AP is not such a person. If anything it looks like the lynch was switched at random without a care for who died instead - which suggests baddie to me.Canucklehead wrote:Also, I'm a little shocked that many players are refusing to see how the lynching of AP in Made's stead could actually be an indication of Made's civviness, not baddiness.I'm of the mind that it is pretty much a coin flip either way.
Take off the blinders, folks.
linki: Hooray for houseboats! So much superior to regular boats and regular houses! I look forward to your response, Mongoooose.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
I think I might know what you're getting at there, but I still think a baddie switch is not only very likely but the most likely. I had held off on Made because we were all incredibly wrong about him in Misfits but the lynch outcome in addition to everything else that has been discussed in the lead up to it makes me more sure he's bad.Canucklehead wrote:Yeah, I'm not really thinking that if it was a civ-thing that it would have been a switch, though. I think if it was a civ-thing it was very much NOT a "switch" in the traditional, active sense. I don't know how much I can say without incurring host wrath.Bullzeye wrote:I would think a civ taking heat would switch a lynch to someone they'd been openly suspicious of though. Probably someone they and maybe others thought was bad anyway. AP is not such a person. If anything it looks like the lynch was switched at random without a care for who died instead - which suggests baddie to me.Canucklehead wrote:Also, I'm a little shocked that many players are refusing to see how the lynching of AP in Made's stead could actually be an indication of Made's civviness, not baddiness.I'm of the mind that it is pretty much a coin flip either way.
Take off the blinders, folks.
linki: Hooray for houseboats! So much superior to regular boats and regular houses! I look forward to your response, Mongoooose.![]()
Don't get me wrong, I think a baddie switch is very much a likely possibility, but it's far from the ONLY likely possibility.
This infuriates me because I purchased this for camping simply because of this theme. We took pictures of it so I could bring it for show and tell. And you've scooped me.Bullzeye wrote:Here is a holy grail for you Mr God sir:
As for a tale, well, by looking on the page this picture comes from I see the holy grail is actually produced by a beer company my granddad used to deliver for up until not too long ago. Apparently it's nothing special but whoever reviewed it clearly disregarded the fact that as I'm within six degrees of separation from this ale named after the holy grail it is in fact awesome by association.
Linki - I have this to say: Hello!
Mongoose wrote:I see what you are getting at with the lynch switch; I wasn't getting baddie vibes from AP at all.
I'm unsure if you're thinking what I'm thinking!Canucklehead wrote:Mongoose wrote:I see what you are getting at with the lynch switch; I wasn't getting baddie vibes from AP at all.Nor was I? Which is what makes this theory possible, in my mind?
I'm unsure if you're thinking what I'm thinking....
I don't think it was a civvie lynch switch at all, and I can't for the life of me figure out what you are proposing happened. Or what possibly happened if a civvie was responsible.Canucklehead wrote:I don't think it's a switch, peeps, as the civ option I'm proposing. Can no one infer what I'm getting at? I'd really LOVE for you all to try and understand my gist.
Love a Berkerly reference, I do. My fave is Gold Diggers of 1937. I will often sing the opening song to my friends' babies as I push them in their little cart things.Canucklehead wrote:![]()
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Well you know, it's not just because AP was lynched that we think Made is bad. He was leading the poll after all. And yes, I don't want to immediately jump to the conclusion that Made is a baddie lynch-switcher, but due to the circumstances, I am strongly entertaining the idea.Canucklehead wrote:Anywho, lovers, I don't want to derail with this. I just wanted to make sure that we're considering all possibilities. Most of you are so super sure that Made is bad that I think you'll be inclined to view the lynch results as a baddie switch regardless of whether or not you correctly glom on to my thinking here, so it's maybe irrelevant.It's cool. I get it. Like I said earlier, there is a lot of shit piling up at Made's feet, and I get why most of you don't seem to see it as mere coincidence.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Canucklehead wrote:Gahhhh......I don't know how to be more clear and not risk the Wrath of Roxy.
Maybe a song will help clear my head:
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Yes, I know that the lynch switch is not the only reason you think Made is bad. Please read my entire post, and you'll see that I said EXACTLY THAT.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well you know, it's not just because AP was lynched that we think Made is bad. He was leading the poll after all. And yes, I don't want to immediately jump to the conclusion that Made is a baddie lynch-switcher, but due to the circumstances, I am strongly entertaining the idea.Canucklehead wrote:Anywho, lovers, I don't want to derail with this. I just wanted to make sure that we're considering all possibilities. Most of you are so super sure that Made is bad that I think you'll be inclined to view the lynch results as a baddie switch regardless of whether or not you correctly glom on to my thinking here, so it's maybe irrelevant.It's cool. I get it. Like I said earlier, there is a lot of shit piling up at Made's feet, and I get why most of you don't seem to see it as mere coincidence.
bea wrote:I tried to allude to that earlier - that given the game source - I can see ONE scenario where a switch wasn't what went down.Long Con wrote:Sorry for the non-response, Juliets. I had actually typed a response on my phone that was basically "That's interesting, if anyone could show me an example because I can't really read back right now", but it got linkitis'ed without me realizing it. It wouldn't have mattered because I didn't really get to check in until I just caught up now.
RIP A Person. I've seen plenty of Civvie roles that can switch a lynch, and probably ones that can reflect a lynch once or something, so I don't find the situation to be instantly incriminating to Made. However, the way he has been acting since then is a bit sketchy, as several people have pointed out. I'm gonna have to say that Made will likely get my vote. It doesn't look like he'll need it to get lynched anyway, but there you go.
We haven't gotten Concorde's role revealed yet.
I'm wondering if we won't see Concorde's role revealed for that very reason.
I still wait to see if I could be wrong about that.
I interpreted it as a desperate, last second lynch switch. Which would make me think it more likely that Made is bad. Especially since AP's self-vote came so close to the deadline.Canucklehead wrote:Also, I'm a little shocked that many players are refusing to see how the lynching of AP in Made's stead could actually be an indication of Made's civviness, not baddiness.I'm of the mind that it is pretty much a coin flip either way.
Take off the blinders, folks.
linki: Hooray for houseboats! So much superior to regular boats and regular houses! I look forward to your response, Mongoooose.
No, I entirely get what you're saying. I think there is a possible civ option in play here. I just find it extremely unlikely.Canucklehead wrote:I don't think it's a switch, peeps, as the civ option I'm proposing. Can no one infer what I'm getting at? I'd really LOVE for you all to try and understand my gist.
Exactly.Canucklehead wrote:While I appreciate the props, Enrique, I can't claim to have come up with the idea out of thin air. It was bea's exchange with LC here that made me think of it:bea wrote:I tried to allude to that earlier - that given the game source - I can see ONE scenario where a switch wasn't what went down.Long Con wrote:Sorry for the non-response, Juliets. I had actually typed a response on my phone that was basically "That's interesting, if anyone could show me an example because I can't really read back right now", but it got linkitis'ed without me realizing it. It wouldn't have mattered because I didn't really get to check in until I just caught up now.
RIP A Person. I've seen plenty of Civvie roles that can switch a lynch, and probably ones that can reflect a lynch once or something, so I don't find the situation to be instantly incriminating to Made. However, the way he has been acting since then is a bit sketchy, as several people have pointed out. I'm gonna have to say that Made will likely get my vote. It doesn't look like he'll need it to get lynched anyway, but there you go.
We haven't gotten Concorde's role revealed yet.
I'm wondering if we won't see Concorde's role revealed for that very reason.
I still wait to see if I could be wrong about that.
I considered that possibility on Day Zero, when Made (i thought) might have hinted at it. But his subsequent behavior and the fact that too many people are backing him up, makes it hard for me to see that, tbh. I have to say I am with BWT here.birdwithteeth11 wrote:No, I entirely get what you're saying. I think there is a possible civ option in play here. I just find it extremely unlikely.Canucklehead wrote:I don't think it's a switch, peeps, as the civ option I'm proposing. Can no one infer what I'm getting at? I'd really LOVE for you all to try and understand my gist.
What was the answer?DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:After over 62 000 guesses, we have a winner! Thank you all for participating.
25Mongoose wrote:What was the answer?DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:After over 62 000 guesses, we have a winner! Thank you all for participating.
And again (this time in reference to a comment SVS made)Mister Rearranger wrote:I voiced uneasiness about him on Day 1, iirc. I forget whose post I was responding to though. Gimme til I get to work and I'll dig it up.
Epi's thoughts today touched on some things that I'd been pondering as well.
And againMister Rearranger wrote:I will say it's incredibly different trying to figure Made out as another player compared to hosting him, haha. Having seen him play as a civ for an entire game, I don't really see anything that contrasts his play style, but objectively, there are a lot of things he's doing that would normally raise my suspicion of most players. :/
Is what really gets to me.Mister Rearranger wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:I dunno how you did that. I already made an argument about those two yesterday, and Made merely acknowledged it.Mister Rearranger wrote:I made Made's shortlist!If I had known that all it took to garner your suspicion was reference Enrique and you, I would have done so waaaay earlier in the thread.
Also, yeah I remember him and Eloh saying they'd be camping.
He then goes on to quote Enrique and ask for others to begin a discussion him, distancing himself far enough from accusing him(no accountability if he pops up as civvie I.e. hedging), yet close enough to steer the conversation.Mister Rearranger wrote:His skepticism of Enrique and DF's interactions, not to mention how wavering DF was on you and Enrique.Made wrote:What specifically, I'm curious exactly what part of his post spoke to you.Mister Rearranger wrote: Epi's thoughts today touched on some things that I'd been pondering as well.
I feel like there are ties somewhere between some combination of DF, Jules, Enrique, and/or yourself.
How he know the consecutive voting was a coincidence is beyond me.Mister Rearranger wrote:That block of BWT, Daisy, and Canuck is coincidental, to say the least. So they might be, but it'd be a very ballsy move by Daisy to push that strongly against MP so my thought (and vote) relied on me doubting that she's bad.S~V~S wrote:Same question as for Enrique, MR, do YOU think the people who voted for MP are bad? Or do you just think they might be cause they voted for MP?
I find it interesting while he considered the possibility of everyone jumping on daisy, but even going out of his way to attack those who vouch for me. Yes the scenario are different, but it still does beg for scrutiny.Mister Rearranger wrote:Here we are. Didn't help me much. I'm hesitating. This is a coin-flip situation for me since Daisy's read seems genuine and hits on many of the same things that stood out about MP as I read his posts regarding SVS.Spacedaisy wrote:
MP: I love you, but I think you are bad. Your posts have been too full of fishing for other opinions. You are too wishy washy. I feel like you are looking for a good case to stick too, and this SVS thing honestly reads like weird reasoning to me. Especially given how you have been pretty vocal in the past about how you know how bad you are at reading her and how you can get such tunnel vision about her. I just am not feeling your behavior this game at all. In fact, I am feeling so unsettled by it that I am willing to vote for you. No offense, but I just feel it in my gut you are bad.
Linki @ BWT, guess I'm not the only one who is not feeling like Alex is trustworthy this go round!
However, the way multiple people hopped on him makes me wonder about deliberate coordination.
I vote MP as well for now and put some trust in my own gut. Also, good to know the vote is changeable! Thanks!
I believe this is what the kiddies call a "No u"? MR keeps wanting points to be discussed, but never wants to participate in this discussion, or even bring new things to the table to be discussed!Mister Rearranger wrote:I'm open to watching a case get picked apart and hearing contrasting opinions, but I would be interested to see if Enrique can practice what he preaches here and bring other names to the table. Because all I've seen is him acting as arbiter between Made and various people. Maybe as a protective teammate? Maybe for vindication if Made were lynched and was civ? Maybe just out of his defensive nature (I recall Enrique being quite scrappy and holding his own in LP gamesEnrique wrote: OK, if you want that, you know what's a good idea? Bringing other names to the table, instead of simply saying "let's not discuss this anymore because he's bad and that's final," as if that was good enough for everyone.)? Of that, I can't be sure.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Dennis wrote:
There are other people in this thread besides Made, Enqriue and llama, she said she said she said, why not give someone else a chance to talk, she said she said? I tell you what, it's always the same thing. One or two people suck all the oxygen out of the room and every else gets ignored. Typical class structure. What we need is more egalitarian. Talk to the looneys keeping quiet and see what they have to say. Turn up the heat on them until it's hot enough to boil a monkey's bum. If I had my way, there would be equal time for all, Otherwise, you have all these conflicts playing favourites and colouring everyone else's opinions. Not on my watch.
Oh and remove your head from the sand. Yeah, what's with all this Off-Topic nonsense? Don't they realize we have scum to catch? I love the photo of your accessory-sized toy Maltipoo in your overpriced handbag, but let's stay on task, people. C'mon, Canuck, no one is getting what you are throwing about the lynch switch, sister. Maybe try some smoke signals or an interpretative dance?
Peace out.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I do not feel bad anymore for my speculation of Epi on Day 1. Goodbye Epi.
Um.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Reading this now, but why wait so long to post this Made? The day ends in one minute?
You've caught me. My gameplan was to post so much that people couldn't keep up, and since they wouldn't post much as a result, I would point the finger of suspicion at them.Roxy wrote:Dennis wrote:
There are other people in this thread besides Made, Enqriue and llama, she said she said she said, why not give someone else a chance to talk, she said she said? I tell you what, it's always the same thing. One or two people suck all the oxygen out of the room and every else gets ignored. Typical class structure. What we need is more egalitarian. Talk to the looneys keeping quiet and see what they have to say. Turn up the heat on them until it's hot enough to boil a monkey's bum. If I had my way, there would be equal time for all, Otherwise, you have all these conflicts playing favourites and colouring everyone else's opinions. Not on my watch.
Oh and remove your head from the sand. Yeah, what's with all this Off-Topic nonsense? Don't they realize we have scum to catch? I love the photo of your accessory-sized toy Maltipoo in your overpriced handbag, but let's stay on task, people. C'mon, Canuck, no one is getting what you are throwing about the lynch switch, sister. Maybe try some smoke signals or an interpretative dance?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.