KGMurphy wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:01 pm
Well we only have until Wednesday to figure it out. Who's been the most quiet since the start?
You?
Is this really the best way to find scum tho, just lynch the low posters?
Exactly, we should just find them differently. I heard Traitors would sweat when you look them in the eye.
Where did you hear that?
Do you have anymore tips for catching Traitors? Cuz you should share your knowledge with the class
Well I'm friends with all sorts of people.
Yes,
We would pressure the shit out of few people and record their reaction if they go OMGUS we town read them mostly but if they are being weird we lynch them.
Oh,
We should also say how shitty the shitposter are, not funny at all. We would get impressive results.
Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:47 am
The thing about the exile vote is if we pick one player to keep sending and we are wrong on that player then we lose the game EoN3.
We can improve on that by picking two players and alternating. Even if we are wrong on one, we lose either EoN5 or EoN6 at the earliest.
If we pick a different player every night we shouldn't ever lose but actually the second option might also be a valid alternative here.
I like the alternate idea tbh.
Why don’t we just send the cop so we don’t ever lose via exile and the franer/lawyer traitor can’t fuck with is?
KGMurphy wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:01 pm
Well we only have until Wednesday to figure it out. Who's been the most quiet since the start?
You?
Is this really the best way to find scum tho, just lynch the low posters?
I've been thinking about this and it might not be a bad play to kill whoever seems most afraid to ruffle feathers on D1
we're in a unique mafia environment where NOBODY has TMI so I'm open to hearing other strategies
I dunno, why would Traitors be afraid of ruffling feathers? They don't know who's on their team, I don't think they'd care.
Well they can't lose if they don't get chopped. I think a lot of players, if they randed traitor, would want to pocket/cuddle up to the rest of the roster and skate by in that fashion. Of course I expect at least 1 of the traitors to be a confident wolf that will give us trouble, but on D1 I think I POE and shoot in that pool
KZA
Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:51 am
eating an entire sandwich is not that hard
MacDougall - cop, wants me to die as is tradition
Marmot - My gut is on a hot streak reading Marmot off his openers so I'll trust it again
falcon45ca - Good ol Falc
112 - I enjoy the brazen FoS of Sparkles and think the thought process has looked good. I'm not really concerned about being called stilted by them it happens to me a decent amount as town
MissSparkles - High posting, asking decent questions, doesn't seem to care about creating friction with other players
WimI - Kinda mixed thoughts here. Is posting a lot, but has seemed kind of, idk friendly/agreeing with a lot of people which could be at traitor attempting to integrate quickly. This could just be playstyle thing too. I'll wait and see if they get a little pointier. I do like their mech plan from early. Either way I'm probably not going here today.
Currently Willing to Chop: KGMurphy
Long Con
Gira
Creature
Poison
Wisdom
cat
Auwt
these are lower content slots to this point so I'll just wait and see who posts themselves in to towniness
KZA
Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:51 am
eating an entire sandwich is not that hard
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:25 am
So do we believe the host would force the cop to claim yay or nay?
Seems weird but if we're in a setup where it is pretty much optimal for the cop to claim immediately then I don't see why not (it would prevent a player who is less experienced or a lurker from playing suboptimally if they randed the role and causing town to perform worse as a result).
I'm happy to just believe that Mac is the cop and telling the truth about whatever unless he gets counterclaimed.
If I was a traitor i’d counterclaim though.
oddly i believe this even though counterclaiming is unoptimal given town has a backup
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:12 pm
We have a heavy reliance on the cop this game I think (thankfully there's a backup, on the off chance that there's a cc), which means that them claiming might not be in our best interest yet, because it'll give the Anti-Cop more info into who they should frame.
That said, claiming early would prevent cc wars from going down.
112 wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:46 pm
kaz and i interact a lot and maybe i'm just not used to seeing him post a lot without saying something ironic or half-serious
but something really does feel off about him even when i try to ignore the non-mafia-playing kaz and focus on the mafia-playing one
I tend to agree. He's copying up to me awful damn quick
112 wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:46 pm
kaz and i interact a lot and maybe i'm just not used to seeing him post a lot without saying something ironic or half-serious
but something really does feel off about him even when i try to ignore the non-mafia-playing kaz and focus on the mafia-playing one
I tend to agree. He's cozying up to me awful damn quick
Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:47 am
The thing about the exile vote is if we pick one player to keep sending and we are wrong on that player then we lose the game EoN3.
We can improve on that by picking two players and alternating. Even if we are wrong on one, we lose either EoN5 or EoN6 at the earliest.
If we pick a different player every night we shouldn't ever lose but actually the second option might also be a valid alternative here.
I like the alternate idea tbh.
Why don’t we just send the cop so we don’t ever lose via exile and the franer/lawyer traitor can’t fuck with is?
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:25 am
So do we believe the host would force the cop to claim yay or nay?
Seems weird but if we're in a setup where it is pretty much optimal for the cop to claim immediately then I don't see why not (it would prevent a player who is less experienced or a lurker from playing suboptimally if they randed the role and causing town to perform worse as a result).
I'm happy to just believe that Mac is the cop and telling the truth about whatever unless he gets counterclaimed.
If I was a traitor i’d counterclaim though.
oddly i believe this even though counterclaiming is unoptimal given town has a backup
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:12 pm
We have a heavy reliance on the cop this game I think (thankfully there's a backup, on the off chance that there's a cc), which means that them claiming might not be in our best interest yet, because it'll give the Anti-Cop more info into who they should frame.
That said, claiming early would prevent cc wars from going down.
whereas this is eh
Yea true I didn’t think about the backup. Probably would have if I actually drew traitor.
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:33 pmIdk scum like to go against the grain especially when it comes to placing doubt on the most vocal player.
He just gave me suspicion and keft, feels kinda agendy, NO TOWN LEAN FOR U 112
bolded is an interesting assertion because on its face i'd disagree with it although maybe we just have differing experiences. don't think that post from 112 is inherently scummy
the hyperactivity from sparkles in some places sketches me out because it seems like she's trying to reply to literally everything regardless of whether she has something to add, just to appear as involved as possible. but that may just be personal taste of finding it annoying overwhelming reads, on net probably town
112 wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:46 pm
kaz and i interact a lot and maybe i'm just not used to seeing him post a lot without saying something ironic or half-serious
but something really does feel off about him even when i try to ignore the non-mafia-playing kaz and focus on the mafia-playing one
Are you finding me scummy or is it mostly a difference in tone you're picking up?
fwiw I understand why I might attract this kind of read when I come in and play focused, TSP had similar thoughts on me in Fargo where I flipped town
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:48 pm
I tend to agree. He's copying up to me awful damn quick
well I'm cozying up even harder because of posts like this
KZA
Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:51 am
eating an entire sandwich is not that hard
KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:41 pm
oh Gira is here and they're straight to business, kind of like it
Kind of easy to fake “getting down to business” as a traitor considering the content, don’t you think? Let’s not make him look good when he isn’t really, although i’ve liked his input so far.
KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:41 pm
oh Gira is here and they're straight to business, kind of like it
Kind of easy to fake “getting down to business” as a traitor considering the content, don’t you think? Let’s not make him look good when he isn’t really, although i’ve liked his input so far.
I agree, definitely not too hard to fake that type of catchup, but they feel okay in real time
KZA
Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:51 am
eating an entire sandwich is not that hard
tbh what i've posted is entirely not out of scumrange, but also everything in this setup is entirely trivial to fake and getting real reads is next to impossible
on a technical level this isn't really mafia but YOLO
Gira wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:08 pm
tbh what i've posted is entirely not out of scumrange, but also everything in this setup is entirely trivial to fake and getting real reads is next to impossible
on a technical level this isn't really mafia but YOLO
Figured, based on what you’ve responded too, you’re probably pretty good as scum. Probably pretty good as town too.
KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:41 pm
current standing
Not Chopping: KZA - yes this is KZA
MacDougall - cop, wants me to die as is tradition
Marmot - My gut is on a hot streak reading Marmot off his openers so I'll trust it again
falcon45ca - Good ol Falc
112 - I enjoy the brazen FoS of Sparkles and think the thought process has looked good. I'm not really concerned about being called stilted by them it happens to me a decent amount as town
MissSparkles - High posting, asking decent questions, doesn't seem to care about creating friction with other players
WimI - Kinda mixed thoughts here. Is posting a lot, but has seemed kind of, idk friendly/agreeing with a lot of people which could be at traitor attempting to integrate quickly. This could just be playstyle thing too. I'll wait and see if they get a little pointier. I do like their mech plan from early. Either way I'm probably not going here today.
Currently Willing to Chop: KGMurphy
Long Con
Gira
Creature
Poison
Wisdom
cat
Auwt
these are lower content slots to this point so I'll just wait and see who posts themselves in to towniness
112 wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:46 pm
kaz and i interact a lot and maybe i'm just not used to seeing him post a lot without saying something ironic or half-serious
but something really does feel off about him even when i try to ignore the non-mafia-playing kaz and focus on the mafia-playing one
Are you finding me scummy or is it mostly a difference in tone you're picking up?
fwiw I understand why I might attract this kind of read when I come in and play focused, TSP had similar thoughts on me in Fargo where I flipped town
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:48 pm
I tend to agree. He's copying up to me awful damn quick
well I'm cozying up even harder because of posts like this
i'd say much to most of it is tone, some of it is that beyond the tone you just don't seem as easygoing as usual
what sparked that post in particular was the list you posted. it felt like it was crafted to be offensive to the fewest amount of players as possible. it didn't have outright egregious or bad takes but it also didn't really inspire anything
KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:41 pm
current standing
Not Chopping: KZA - yes this is KZA
MacDougall - cop, wants me to die as is tradition
Marmot - My gut is on a hot streak reading Marmot off his openers so I'll trust it again
falcon45ca - Good ol Falc
112 - I enjoy the brazen FoS of Sparkles and think the thought process has looked good. I'm not really concerned about being called stilted by them it happens to me a decent amount as town
MissSparkles - High posting, asking decent questions, doesn't seem to care about creating friction with other players
WimI - Kinda mixed thoughts here. Is posting a lot, but has seemed kind of, idk friendly/agreeing with a lot of people which could be at traitor attempting to integrate quickly. This could just be playstyle thing too. I'll wait and see if they get a little pointier. I do like their mech plan from early. Either way I'm probably not going here today.
Currently Willing to Chop: KGMurphy
Long Con
Gira
Creature
Poison
Wisdom
cat
Auwt
these are lower content slots to this point so I'll just wait and see who posts themselves in to towniness
So we basically have the same reads then? I’ve posted and gave reads to all the same players u have just didn’t MAKE A LIST. Mindmelding town or scum leech? Go on tell me why it’s a mindmeld and not a leech situation, here’s the mic 🎙
Although I’d swap out Wiml for 112. But I can see where you’re coming from re: Wiml.
KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:41 pm
current standing
Not Chopping: KZA - yes this is KZA
MacDougall - cop, wants me to die as is tradition
Marmot - My gut is on a hot streak reading Marmot off his openers so I'll trust it again
falcon45ca - Good ol Falc
112 - I enjoy the brazen FoS of Sparkles and think the thought process has looked good. I'm not really concerned about being called stilted by them it happens to me a decent amount as town
MissSparkles - High posting, asking decent questions, doesn't seem to care about creating friction with other players
WimI - Kinda mixed thoughts here. Is posting a lot, but has seemed kind of, idk friendly/agreeing with a lot of people which could be at traitor attempting to integrate quickly. This could just be playstyle thing too. I'll wait and see if they get a little pointier. I do like their mech plan from early. Either way I'm probably not going here today.
Currently Willing to Chop: KGMurphy
Long Con
Gira
Creature
Poison
Wisdom
cat
Auwt
these are lower content slots to this point so I'll just wait and see who posts themselves in to towniness
I'm fine with this list
I mean so am I considering i’ve given the same reads.
112 wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:46 pm
kaz and i interact a lot and maybe i'm just not used to seeing him post a lot without saying something ironic or half-serious
but something really does feel off about him even when i try to ignore the non-mafia-playing kaz and focus on the mafia-playing one
Are you finding me scummy or is it mostly a difference in tone you're picking up?
fwiw I understand why I might attract this kind of read when I come in and play focused, TSP had similar thoughts on me in Fargo where I flipped town
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:48 pm
I tend to agree. He's copying up to me awful damn quick
well I'm cozying up even harder because of posts like this
i'd say much to most of it is tone, some of it is that beyond the tone you just don't seem as easygoing as usual
what sparked that post in particular was the list you posted. it felt like it was crafted to be offensive to the fewest amount of players as possible. it didn't have outright egregious or bad takes but it also didn't really inspire anything
It was a nice list of all my reads put together in a cute box with an even cuter ribbon wrapped around it
KZA has been basically answering things with “Wait and See” all game so far, doesn’t seem like he really wants to go after anyone and “ruffle feathers”, yet has been giving reads (MINE) and offering thoughts on a lot of things.
Might wanna switch your avatar, cause like Gengar is not the vibe I’m getting, more like Humpty Dumpty before he falls from his wall