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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Lol Made is trying to bury me I think?
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Damn. That hurts coming from a guy who wears glasses.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
If my last dying gift to the game of Mafia is a new word to replace "spew", I will have given it something good.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
That read on me is atrocious and the dude never reads me town ever. He's like the ultra Mac paranoia enthusiast.
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How about spooge? Brb reading some Mac spooge. Mac spooged Jay town. I love it.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:26 pm If my last dying gift to the game of Mafia is a new word to replace "spew", I will have given it something good.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Alignment diarrhea.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:26 pm If my last dying gift to the game of Mafia is a new word to replace "spew", I will have given it something good.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Nah it doesn't work as a verb. Spooge it is.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:28 pmAlignment diarrhea.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:26 pm If my last dying gift to the game of Mafia is a new word to replace "spew", I will have given it something good.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Has anyone actually tried to read spooge on orangecrush?
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
@MacDougall gun to your head, who are the mafia if it's a team of two?
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Before "spew" became a thing I feel like I used "paint" a lot.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Made and Martin.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:34 pm @MacDougall gun to your head, who are the mafia if it's a team of two?
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
I did full reviews for Made and Act, but none else.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:34 pm Has anyone actually tried to read spooge on orangecrush?
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I'll give it a whirl today if I get time.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:36 pmI did full reviews for Made and Act, but none else.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:34 pm Has anyone actually tried to read spooge on orangecrush?
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I've been too lazy to do any paint analysis.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 1]
This is the only real exchange I see between Sonny and Allcrab, at least from Sonny's posts.Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:32 amThat's probably fair.Allcrab wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:25 amI've seen people say this twice now and not for nothing even if wagons were w/w I still think bunny's vote makes them village because I would assume wolves would have a preference of who goes down between made/nutella.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
orangecrush didn't mention Allcrab at all. I also searched "Fable" for each of them.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Did you read Orangecrush for instances of my name? I think you did? I am pretty sure they spent their entire game trying to get me chopped. Which is pretty interesting because that probably rules out certain teammates when I think about it.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Allcrab on Sonnycrush:
Allcrab fell on the right side of history on the day OC was shot. I'd be more comfortable if there was anything at all to fill the void coming before that day phase. Allcrab didn't have much of anything to say about the slot prior.
I do think the exchange I posted a bit ago was a decent look for the crab. Confidence low-to-moderate.
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Allcrab fell on the right side of history on the day OC was shot. I'd be more comfortable if there was anything at all to fill the void coming before that day phase. Allcrab didn't have much of anything to say about the slot prior.
I do think the exchange I posted a bit ago was a decent look for the crab. Confidence low-to-moderate.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
I haven't posted a review on that specific topic, no. I did just take a quick look (I am stepping out the door). I'm of two minds:MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:41 pm Did you read Orangecrush for instances of my name? I think you did? I am pretty sure they spent their entire game trying to get me chopped. Which is pretty interesting because that probably rules out certain teammates when I think about it.
1) His griefing about your being "anti-town" seems like a nice thing for you.
2) You were clearly never getting chopped and I have to think he knew that, so I take many grains of salt.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Him “trying to get you chopped” is effectively meaningless if he knows it will never happen.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
But why do you think they had that mentality? It seems obvious to me that he didn't. Which is why I think it might indicate who the partners are. Made being one of them.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
I’m in no place to take a closer look now. But he had followed the game to some degree even before joining it, and I don’t recall you accumulating votes. I dunno what would signal to OC that MacDougall is the guy to go after if he really wants to force a miss — especially with Act on the block.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:21 pm But why do you think they had that mentality? It seems obvious to me that he didn't. Which is why I think it might indicate who the partners are. Made being one of them.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
@MacDougall do you believe orangecrush would have been in a state of anti-exposure when he was going after you given that everyone was talking about either chopping him or shooting him? He led the poll vote most of the day too.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
I don't really know what you mean. When I first noticed them come in my inclination was that they seemed kinda towny because they seemed disconnected from things. Choosing to push on me from their position kinda made me think there was no agenda behind it. It just felt like some little dog yapping at me. Going after me from their perspective as mafia indicates that they were either in a team that was kinda disconnected/defeated or comprised of people who didn't understand the futility of pushing on me at the time. Or I guess there is the alternative which is that they were in anti-spew or being told to push on me for the wifom of it.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:49 pm @MacDougall do you believe orangecrush would have been in a state of anti-exposure when he was going after you given that everyone was talking about either chopping him or shooting him? He led the poll vote most of the day too.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
ok apparently i have to do work
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
to which I say wolf team is jay/mac
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
I'm doing a full interaction review of your two slots Mac, so we'll see how I feel.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
why those two?
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Martin's position in the salad is of interest.orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 11:33 pm Gnome or Mac or maybe Martin as if Martin can be confirmed town healer it would help us with Alisom also
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
lol TSP caught us
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
I was actually thinking about the poison targets. They are insidious and calculated. N1 they go after a big dog in Alison, who was a very realistic NK target, which would have been quite a waste if the poison double stacked (assuming that the poisoner is 3p). She also looked very town. So quite a wolf-siding shot from most people's perspective. Since then all the shots have been POE, but not the most POE, just sort of outside the range of being the optimal chop. Never NK choices, but also probably not going to be chopped. So since n1, they have hard townsided. The more the game has progressed towards a town win, the more the poisoner has felt like they've been trying to help the town win? It feels like each of them has specifically been selected to:
a) Avoid getting healed by town (LC)
b) Avoid being the NK target (because POE)
c) Have high potential to be mafia (because POE)
d) Not be optimal chop targets.
With the exception of Alison.
If Alison wasn't the first target, I would be nearly convinced the poisoner is in fact Alison. If the poisoner is 3p, they are trying to help town steamroll the mafia. Which would indicate that they are strong towncore, paying close attention and do not fear losing to the town if the mafia get cleared before them.
Or the poisoner is in fact a town-aligned poisoner? I doubt it, but it could be the case.
Sometimes poisoner roles have the ability to choose to fake it. If this poisoner has that then it's Alison 100%.
If it's not Alison, it could be TSP but I am not entirely sure that Tangy would have targeted Alison n1, and the targets feel more conscious while Tangy was disconnected from the game? I guess I could just be misreading that.
Allcrab has a point about the Bad Bunny poison, also I am not sure any of the targets truly make that much sense for Allcrab.
a) Avoid getting healed by town (LC)
b) Avoid being the NK target (because POE)
c) Have high potential to be mafia (because POE)
d) Not be optimal chop targets.
With the exception of Alison.
If Alison wasn't the first target, I would be nearly convinced the poisoner is in fact Alison. If the poisoner is 3p, they are trying to help town steamroll the mafia. Which would indicate that they are strong towncore, paying close attention and do not fear losing to the town if the mafia get cleared before them.
Or the poisoner is in fact a town-aligned poisoner? I doubt it, but it could be the case.
Sometimes poisoner roles have the ability to choose to fake it. If this poisoner has that then it's Alison 100%.
If it's not Alison, it could be TSP but I am not entirely sure that Tangy would have targeted Alison n1, and the targets feel more conscious while Tangy was disconnected from the game? I guess I could just be misreading that.
Allcrab has a point about the Bad Bunny poison, also I am not sure any of the targets truly make that much sense for Allcrab.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
this plan still may exist to check Alison, if we can make it work.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:31 pmWe can coordinate a way to test Alison's by tying the vote and making sure the person Jay does not vote for reaches the vote total first. If there is an apparent tie, Jay should have a double vote, so whoever he votes for should die. If he does not have a double vote, then the other person will die. If he does not have a double vote, Alison lied.Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 3:30 pm If there is a tie between multiple players in the vote, the elimination will be determined by whoever reached that number of votes first. Using vote tags in the thread isn't mandatory, but it's highly recommended, and we will only track these votes when breaking ties in this way. Votes posted in the thread after 12:30:00 will also not count when breaking a tie.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Interactions of Sonnycrush and MacDougall
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Orange - These are instances of Sonny handling Mac in some manner that implies neutrality or uncertainty. Much of it takes on a "is Mac a real person?" kind of character that could be decent for Mac. Mafia dealing with his brand of solving for the first time probably do have no idea what to do with it.
Green - Sonny determined Mac looked good coming out of the nutella mafia flip. This is a default and consensus view that means little to me. His explanation even mirrors my own past rationale for calling Mac town.
Cyan - These are Sonny responses to Mac suspicion. They kind of look like someone swatting away an annoying bug, to Mac's credit. In the first case he seemed please to leave behind the pressured dialogue to talk about Australia.
Pink - This may be some of the most important stuff, as it pertains to Sonny's vote for nutella. Mac was the one who pushed him into that. This is an area where I can see the potential for a teammate relationship, particularly that faint emoji. I will temper that a bit and qualify that Sonny's explanation for being okay with a nutella vote kinda looks like something he felt the need to provide to Mac, which would be better. Too speculative for this stage of the game maybe.
Blue - This is a bit of an awkward Mac mention. There's a contextual reason for it given the post being addressed. I just don't know why the question is being asked.
Red - These are statements of suspicion against Mac. The majority come from OC, but a couple from Sonny actually seem a bit revealing. OC's accusations that Mac was a shitposting anti-town menace actually started with Sonny in that very first red blurb, albeit in a fainter way. I am hesitant to rely as much on the red material from OC, as the moment he entered the game he was under the gun and had to know that. Nonetheless we can note that OC's Mac stance was clearly one of animosity, and I would in most situations be inclined to view accusations that someone is being "anti-town" as a good indicator for them.
I actually think there's a decent chance OC was giving an honest read on Mac. That is, as OC was following the game as a spectator, he might have truly felt that way about Mac and made these internal comparisons to whoever "Slovis" is. As such, when he joined the game his mafia role card didn't have to stop him from sharing a read he had come upon for real before. Take all of that with boulders of salt. It's presumptuous.
I will post the Mac side of this interaction separately. This one's already huge. So far I think the trend is a positive one for Mac. I really hope folks engage with this and offer feedback, because we cannot afford to be wrong.
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Orange - These are instances of Sonny handling Mac in some manner that implies neutrality or uncertainty. Much of it takes on a "is Mac a real person?" kind of character that could be decent for Mac. Mafia dealing with his brand of solving for the first time probably do have no idea what to do with it.
Green - Sonny determined Mac looked good coming out of the nutella mafia flip. This is a default and consensus view that means little to me. His explanation even mirrors my own past rationale for calling Mac town.
Cyan - These are Sonny responses to Mac suspicion. They kind of look like someone swatting away an annoying bug, to Mac's credit. In the first case he seemed please to leave behind the pressured dialogue to talk about Australia.
Pink - This may be some of the most important stuff, as it pertains to Sonny's vote for nutella. Mac was the one who pushed him into that. This is an area where I can see the potential for a teammate relationship, particularly that faint emoji. I will temper that a bit and qualify that Sonny's explanation for being okay with a nutella vote kinda looks like something he felt the need to provide to Mac, which would be better. Too speculative for this stage of the game maybe.
Blue - This is a bit of an awkward Mac mention. There's a contextual reason for it given the post being addressed. I just don't know why the question is being asked.
Red - These are statements of suspicion against Mac. The majority come from OC, but a couple from Sonny actually seem a bit revealing. OC's accusations that Mac was a shitposting anti-town menace actually started with Sonny in that very first red blurb, albeit in a fainter way. I am hesitant to rely as much on the red material from OC, as the moment he entered the game he was under the gun and had to know that. Nonetheless we can note that OC's Mac stance was clearly one of animosity, and I would in most situations be inclined to view accusations that someone is being "anti-town" as a good indicator for them.
I actually think there's a decent chance OC was giving an honest read on Mac. That is, as OC was following the game as a spectator, he might have truly felt that way about Mac and made these internal comparisons to whoever "Slovis" is. As such, when he joined the game his mafia role card didn't have to stop him from sharing a read he had come upon for real before. Take all of that with boulders of salt. It's presumptuous.
I will post the Mac side of this interaction separately. This one's already huge. So far I think the trend is a positive one for Mac. I really hope folks engage with this and offer feedback, because we cannot afford to be wrong.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
I think, nay hope, they'd have just claimed by now if that's the case. Otherwise we're wasting a ton of time on them.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:24 pm Or the poisoner is in fact a town-aligned poisoner? I doubt it, but it could be the case.
This has no business existing. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but it has no business existing.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:24 pmSometimes poisoner roles have the ability to choose to fake it. If this poisoner has that then it's Alison 100%.
I was serious just now when I called Tony the poisoner. Every time he makes an appearance without doing anything serious (and I don't qualify "it's jay/mac" as serious), he elevates in my poisoner chart. I think the targets being who they've been actually make some sense for Tangy. Alison was mildly anti-Tangy on Day 1. The others have been whatever picks for someone paying less attention than they'd like.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:24 pmIf it's not Alison, it could be TSP but I am not entirely sure that Tangy would have targeted Alison n1, and the targets feel more conscious while Tangy was disconnected from the game? I guess I could just be misreading that.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
I don’t like you making me work by threatening to scumread me if I don’t and I don’t care if that’s how mafia works
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Like what, you think I’m 3P because if I’m town subbing into a spot I’ve been told is cleared I would have come in with a chart and reads
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
I also just finished a game and would like like a night
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Like I cannot be bothered to solve a game on a day where Jay and Mac and Sloonei are all somehow still alive and working hard and I just subbed in because why not and btw someone should explain how it is that Jay and Mac and Sloonei are all still alive
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Mech insight though: Good odds one of the poison healer claims is a wolf/the poisoner. I dunno if we’re already past that point
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Mac’s not mafia
Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Hawk flipped healer and Martin is still alive.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:50 pm Mech insight though: Good odds one of the poison healer claims is a wolf/the poisoner. I dunno if we’re already past that point
I will push Martin eventually because it's very unlikely they are what they say they are but I don't feel like fighting Alison about it yet.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
@Allcrab, do you have any clue who is going to be night-killed by the mafia?
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Probs Marmot.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:10 pm @Allcrab, do you have any clue who is going to be night-killed by the mafia?
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 5]
Should I take that as you don't know or you don't want to answer?Allcrab wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:11 pmProbs Marmot.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:10 pm @Allcrab, do you have any clue who is going to be night-killed by the mafia?
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