The Fall of Númenor - Game Over!

[Gavial]

If you don't believe im real you should be voting me

If you do believe im real you have two 50/50s to choose from

So uh

Yeah that's a pretty shitty vote and approach

What if your uncertain but wanna do a 1V1 Trade.
Like I vote Deli but if they flip Town I death tunnel you kinda thing.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

A syn save is a big ??? too

Why couldn't at least one of you have a claim that makes sense lmao

bruh

The mafia has a strongman shot last night 90% of the time

Who do you think I'm going to save?

Yourself? The jk claim? There's no point making a weird protect, if they use the strongman you can't save anyways and if they don't you're not gonna save syn lol


Doesn't matter i still think you're town

[Gavial]

Deli's Nook world.

3 town flips. Healthy game state for mafia Nook.

Nook decides to out himself by fake claiming cop so he can chop exactly Deli and Marmot in order to win the game.

As opposed to just ... not doing that?

If Nook is fake then the real PR will out. You should be pushing Esooa but you aren't. Cuz you know you can't.

But all the PR’s have already outed.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If you don't believe im real you should be voting me

If you do believe im real you have two 50/50s to choose from

So uh

Yeah that's a pretty shitty vote and approach

What if your uncertain but wanna do a 1V1 Trade.
Like I vote Deli but if they flip Town I death tunnel you kinda thing.

I mean yes I'm aware that if esooa is the mafia we almost certainly lose

[Deli]

deli, if you are a wolf this game you did pretty well at getting me to town read you tbh

I’m not and I feel like I fucked up somehow pretty major

[Gavial]

Like Nook!Scum would have zero risk in claiming Cop here.

[Gavial]

I swear to fuckin god if it’s Nanook/Mac/Syn

[Esooa]

A syn save is a big ??? too

Why couldn't at least one of you have a claim that makes sense lmao

bruh

The mafia has a strongman shot last night 90% of the time

Who do you think I'm going to save?

Yourself? The jk claim? There's no point making a weird protect, if they use the strongman you can't save anyways and if they don't you're not gonna save syn lol


Doesn't matter i still think you're town

there's 0% chance mafia doesn't strongman AND shoot me unless they're game throwing, idk I'm just not gonna plan around that lamo

[Gavial]

Thing is Mac strangely hit a TR on Nanook Day 1 then randomly 180’ed on them.
Mac and Nanook also are Syn’s biggest defenders.

[Gavial]

Reeee

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like Nook!Scum would have zero risk in claiming Cop here.

Thats pretty obviously not true lol, claiming cop after the tracker was NKed makes no sense as scum

[Gavial]

Like Nook!Scum would have zero risk in claiming Cop here.

Thats pretty obviously not true lol, claiming cop after the tracker was NKed makes no sense as scum

Quite the opposite.
Tracker was the only PR that wasn’t claimed.
Ignoring you of course.

[Deli]

It makes sense if you think you can line up the MLs to win… like you want us to go Marmot/creature in some order and if one flips town we still lunch the other?

How many mislunches do we even have left? Of creature/marmot are t/t do we still have a shot?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like this should be fairly easy imo

Esooa didn't need to claim doc and doesn't gain much from doing so as mafia, so they're probably town

I didn't need to claim cop and put myself in an eventual 1v1 with esooa id be sure to lose, nothing can stop mafia me from NKing deli and esooa if they were town

Deli claimed at eod under pressure and their treatment of mac, their supposed target, doesn't track with someone who's actually a jk


If im mafia, I sacced myself for no reason. If esooa is mafia, she sacced herself unnecessarily. If deli is mafia they made the correct play.

[Gavial]

Like if Doc and JK Outs.
Tracker Flips.
I wonder what the fuckin unused PR is!!!???
Hmmmmmm.
Maybe fuckin Cop.
So then you claim Cop and claim 2 Townies have different alignments to set up ML’s for the win.
Also partner wise your most likely partners would be Syn and Mac so it would make sense you’d play it like this in that world.

[Gavial]

Like this should be fairly easy imo

Esooa didn't need to claim doc and doesn't gain much from doing so as mafia, so they're probably town

I didn't need to claim cop and put myself in an eventual 1v1 with esooa id be sure to lose, nothing can stop mafia me from NKing deli and esooa if they were town

Deli claimed at eod under pressure and their treatment of mac, their supposed target, doesn't track with someone who's actually a jk


If im mafia, I sacced myself for no reason. If esooa is mafia, she sacced herself unnecessarily. If deli is mafia they made the correct play.

But you can lose?
If you play it correctly you still get 1 free ML.
So your death doesn’t matter if the other 2 mafia can carry on in your legacy.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like Nook!Scum would have zero risk in claiming Cop here.

Thats pretty obviously not true lol, claiming cop after the tracker was NKed makes no sense as scum

Quite the opposite.
Tracker was the only PR that wasn’t claimed.
Ignoring you of course.

....

Tracker, hk, died n1. I don't need to claim cop to get the other two prs out of the game if im mafia, I can just NK them.

It makes sense if you think you can line up the MLs to win… like you want us to go Marmot/creature in some order and if one flips town we still lunch the other?

How many mislunches do we even have left? Of creature/marmot are t/t do we still have a shot?

And yet im not saying to do that, and instead saying we should kill you. If im mafia im not going for my wincon, im setting myself up to lose a 1v1 with esooa

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

We're gonna throw this aren't we jfc

[Gavial]

You would also yeet the JK instead of NKing them.
Which would make sense thus why scum probably hunted and killed tracker.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Theres also the fact that hk softed a red on deli then immediately died

[Gavial]

[VOTE: kami] aubergine

See the only issue here Nanook is the fact they voted Kami.
I think HK was just deeply SRing Deli, they even gave the reasons why.
I feel like if they tracked Deli and knew they were lying they wouldn’t have stopped voting Deli and pulled what Syn pulled on Esooa regarding WimI but worse.
Like I think HK just never Unvoted Deli if they tracked Deli.

Deli being real JK looks like a way to ML PR instead of NKing them just saying.

I think I still stay on Deli here but I think in a scum!Nanook world he’s fine with dying and thinks his team can pull in a victory for him.

[Gavial]

Which gives me hella paranoia that Mac/Syn will wiggle their way to victory.
Unless he did put his actual scum bud in the cop check to try and make them look good.

[Marmot]

You would also yeet the JK instead of NKing them.
Which would make sense thus why scum probably hunted and killed tracker.

The tracker CC'd the JK claim, so it's not that surprising that he died.

[Marmot]

nanook is real. Marmot and deli are wolves and their spew finds the last pretty easily

Don't write this game off yet. Especially if you're setting yourselves up to yeet me before Creature. Town has no wiggle room to find the last wolf.

[Syn]

I want to hammer tbh

[Gavial]

I mean they're an uncced jk claim its not great to kill them today lol

Unless you're gonna cc you should probably move

what if I were to tell you I don't believe the claim

Depends on if you're also telling you're ccing

hard claim NOT ccing

They never fuckin CC’ed.

I mean they're an uncced jk claim its not great to kill them today lol

Unless you're gonna cc you should probably move

what if I were to tell you I don't believe the claim

I'd disagree with you until you provide a reason.

the reason is I think deli is lying

I pulled up an interaction that explains Deli's behavior earlier. Could you please respond to it and why you think it isn't one that comes from a JK?

because deli is like dead wrong on their team, their push on me is atrocious, and they're refusing to listen to reason with regards to syn. Wolves also know what role doesn't exist.

THIS
Is what they said.

I think if Nanook is scum and did put their partner between Marmot/Creature it’s probably Marmot.
But I don’t think a Nanook/Marmot/Mac team makes sense?
Maybe Marmot/Syn? IDK.

[Gavial]

I want to hammer tbh

[unvote]
Nope

[Gavial]

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

[Marmot]

If Deli flips wolf today, and we flip town in tomorrow's yeet, there will be two nightkills tomorrow night, leaving 5 alive on Day 5 with two wolves left. One of them will be obvious, but that still puts us in a F3 situation.

If Deli doesn't flip wolf today, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

[Deli]

If Deli flips wolf today, and we flip town in tomorrow's yeet, there will be two nightkills tomorrow night, leaving 5 alive on Day 5 with two wolves left. One of them will be obvious, but that still puts us in a F3 situation.

If Deli doesn't flip wolf today, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

Ok let’s not cross that bridge, what’s the plan when I flip town? Cause I’m pretty convinced we’re on the collision course for losing if we lunch me here

[Gavial]

If Deli flips wolf today, and we flip town in tomorrow's yeet, there will be two nightkills tomorrow night, leaving 5 alive on Day 5 with two wolves left. One of them will be obvious, but that still puts us in a F3 situation.

If Deli doesn't flip wolf today, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

If Deli flips Town and Nanook is wolf we legit lose.
And Syn wants to fuckin hammer.

[Syn]

I want to hammer tbh

[unvote]
Nope

I mean, cool, but it wasn't one vote from hammer anyway

I guess we can waste another 24 hours listening to you, Marmot, and Deli just blow hot air up all our asses

thank god for the post cap

[Syn]

If Deli flips wolf today, and we flip town in tomorrow's yeet, there will be two nightkills tomorrow night, leaving 5 alive on Day 5 with two wolves left. One of them will be obvious, but that still puts us in a F3 situation.

If Deli doesn't flip wolf today, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

you won't have to worry about that

[Deli]

Syn is a wolf

Everyone all game is just ignoring them wtf

[Syn]

cool lurking, Deli

[Marmot]

If Deli flips wolf today, and we flip town in tomorrow's yeet, there will be two nightkills tomorrow night, leaving 5 alive on Day 5 with two wolves left. One of them will be obvious, but that still puts us in a F3 situation.

If Deli doesn't flip wolf today, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

you won't have to worry about that

Why don't I have to worry about what?

[Deli]

cool lurking, Deli

Excuse me?

[Gavial]

I’m at the verge where I think Nanook and Syn are scum and their partner is Marmot or Mac.

[Syn]

I’m at the verge where I think Nanook and Syn are scum and their partner is Marmot or Mac.

you aren't at that verge

you've already said that's your solve

[Syn]

cool lurking, Deli

Excuse me?

we've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty

[Deli]

FYI I’m playing in a few other games elsewhere, and modding a game. I get it that I suck, but I’m checking in here as often as I can. I appreciate not being trolled for trying.

[Syn]

you keep making snide remarks like that but from what I can tell the game is proceeding apace just fine and without complication from personality

[Urist]

Vote Count 3.1

Deli (2) - Creature, Marmot
Marmot (1) - MacDougall
MacDougall (1) - Kami

Not Voting (6) - Deli, Syn, Gavial, Esooa, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Wiml

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to execute.



Current Post Counts

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - 100 / 115 (15 left)
Syn - 101 / 121 (20 left)
Gavial - 104 / 129 (25 left)
Marmot - 84 / 113 (29 left)
MacDougall - 113 / 143 (30 left)
Creature - 100 / 130 (30 left)
Deli - 110 / 142 (32 left)
Wiml - 98 / 131 (33 left)
Esooa - 101 / 140 (39 left)
Kami - 54 / 99 (45 left)

[Syn]

[VOTE: Deli] aubergine

[Marmot]

I’m at the verge where I think Nanook and Syn are scum and their partner is Marmot or Mac.

Look Gavial, this theory isn't terrible. In fact, there's some validity to it. I just don't think it has as much strength as the world where Deli is the fakeclaims

I agree that it's an excellent claim from Nanook as wolf. In the world where Nanook is the wolf, presumably, his wolf team knew that there was no parity cop in the game Day 2, and with all of the other PRs having claimed or been killed at the start of Day 3, claiming parity between two non-PRs sets his team up for an easy win if Creature and I are both town.

But this makes a number of jumps in logic that point to Deli being the liar here.

1) Scum killed hollowkatt Night 2. With a JK and a Doctor claimed in thread, and assuming they didn't know who the tracker was, Nanook's team likely kills won of the protective roles, not the tracker. Which leads me to my next point.
2) Hollowkatt claimed that Deli was lying about his JK claim and target Night 1. It was not a CC, no. But hollowkatt was the tracker, and stating such a strong belief leaves an implication that he tracked Deli nowhere (I assume nowhere, but I suppose it's possible he was tracked to Wiml).
3) Nanook voted for me and called me out for a couple things on Day 2. Nanook did seem to want me yeeted, and said as much today, and I believe it's because he'd already had a peek on me as he's now claimed. What I'm saying is that there's evidence in the thread that Nanook was the parity cop already.


Yeah Nanook could be the liar here, I just think there's a lot more evidence on the contrary.

[Deli]

you keep making snide remarks like that but from what I can tell the game is proceeding apace just fine and without complication from personality

dude I feel like you're gaslighting and it's a bit much, just chill out, it is a game, there is no reason to be rude.

[Marmot]

Syn, you're making snide remarks too tbh

[Syn]

you keep making snide remarks like that but from what I can tell the game is proceeding apace just fine and without complication from personality

dude I feel like you're gaslighting and it's a bit much, just chill out, it is a game, there is no reason to be rude.

Syn, you're making snide remarks too tbh

sucks you both randed wolf dawgs

[Deli]

Syn, you're making snide remarks too tbh

I'm just not even sure what I've said that is snide

[Kami]

Pretty sure deli is just town