Traitors for Exile

[Marmot]

I'm still waiting on my most recent result, but I'm fine with continuing the plan of just exitling someone who hasn't been exiled. It seems the safest way for now.

[MissSparkles]

Always have to find out if the groundhog saw his shadow or not.

this is all to say exile kza cause apparently he derp cleared

Not by my definition of derpclear, which is something like revealing beyond a doubt that you're ignorant of information that the wolf team surely would not be. All KZA did was act like the red check was wrong. I get the argument that a redchecked traitor would admit when he's been found out... if one's personal judgement one his reaction is that's honest beyond a doubt, so be it. I think it's a basic go-to mode for getting redchecked as a wolf: deny, deny, deny.

Lmao.

Yeah we just need one town we are willing to bet the game on and we win.

If the anti-cop is alive still then red peeks are probably semi-clearing now?

I'm not gonna accept the auto-run sorry.

The anti cop is confirmed alive, as host said they would flip anti cop when dead, and as long as they have used their ability on themselves (which I am willing to bet on) our cop can clear people.

Sure, the only thing that keeps me from wanting to go auto is the cop checks, but still. I think marmot got two checks now that he hasn't shared?

I like the idea of autoing the green checks from here on in.

I agree re: KZA, where does that leave her in your POE? Before ir after Mac/Gira/Myself??

[Wiml]

Oh I just realised something too.

We know we have exiled only 1 traitor at an absolute max.

So that means if we exile literally everyone once... there is only one traitor left so we can exile every single player twice and it's still impossible to lose from exile.

As long as we never exile a non-Marmot person three times in a row we are now unable to lose to exile lol.

[Wiml]

*in the game, not in a row

[MissSparkles]

Solved by mech

[Wisdom]

Yeah I think what's slowing this game down is the host being busy rather than we needing to talk.

[Wisdom]

I'm fine with exiling anyone who's been active today and punt anyone tomorrow who hasn't.
= Gira, TSP, Mac

[MissSparkles]

I'm fine with exiling anyone who's been active today and punt anyone tomorrow who hasn't.
= Gira, TSP, Mac

To be fair too TSP, atleast he tried lol.

He’s still in my POE but yea i’d yeet Mac/Gira/KZA probably all over him tbhtbh

[Wisdom]

I'm fine with exiling anyone who's been active today and punt anyone tomorrow who hasn't.
= Gira, TSP, Mac

To be fair too TSP, atleast he tried lol.

He’s still in my POE but yea i’d yeet Mac/Gira/KZA probably all over him tbhtbh

I'd switch KZA with him but Gira->Mac->TSP is probably my order of preference.

[Wiml]

If it's Gira then he is absolutely guaranteed to be the anti-cop (check) and to have anti-copped himself because of the strategy Marm suggested.

So if Marm checks Gira and gets a red then that's telling I think.

[Creature]

I'm fine with exiling anyone who's been active today and punt anyone tomorrow who hasn't.
= Gira, TSP, Mac

Problem is that this is like my primary POE for last traitor. If it is not any of them then I don't know where to go next.

[Long Con]

Always have to find out if the groundhog saw his shadow or not.

this is all to say exile kza cause apparently he derp cleared

Not by my definition of derpclear, which is something like revealing beyond a doubt that you're ignorant of information that the wolf team surely would not be. All KZA did was act like the red check was wrong. I get the argument that a redchecked traitor would admit when he's been found out... if one's personal judgement one his reaction is that's honest beyond a doubt, so be it. I think it's a basic go-to mode for getting redchecked as a wolf: deny, deny, deny.

Lmao.

Yeah we just need one town we are willing to bet the game on and we win.

If the anti-cop is alive still then red peeks are probably semi-clearing now?

I'm not gonna accept the auto-run sorry.

The anti cop is confirmed alive, as host said they would flip anti cop when dead, and as long as they have used their ability on themselves (which I am willing to bet on) our cop can clear people.

Sure, the only thing that keeps me from wanting to go auto is the cop checks, but still. I think marmot got two checks now that he hasn't shared?

I like the idea of autoing the green checks from here on in.

I agree re: KZA, where does that leave her in your POE? Before ir after Mac/Gira/Myself??

Yeah, I think so. Not sure about Gira, but you have done a nice volume clear today. Is that something you do as a wolf? Really, asking anyone who knows your play well enough.

[TonyStarkPrime]

ok do i just not know how day phases work around here

[Wisdom]

ok do i just not know how day phases work around here

Phases are not working and there are no night phases this game.
But welcome!

[TonyStarkPrime]

is there an exile poll or are the polls broken or something

[Wisdom]

is there an exile poll or are the polls broken or something

Polls are broken because host hasn't changed them.

[Wisdom]

is there an exile poll or are the polls broken or something

Polls are broken because host hasn't changed them.

@Gavial

[Marmot]

is there an exile poll or are the polls broken or something

We should be in exile phase right now, I think the poll just isn't updated.

[Wiml]

I feel bad for the last traitor lol. 95% of the time they're probably just slowly waiting out a game that is close to unwinnable.

[Wisdom]

I feel bad for the last traitor lol. 95% of the time they're probably just slowly waiting out a game that is close to unwinnable.

Which means all we have to do is HYPE UP and we'll smoke the last one out!

[Wiml]

HYPE

[Wiml]

HYPE

Accepting my easy town clear gg.

[Wisdom]

HYPE

Accepting my easy town clear gg.

GG

[MissSparkles]

Always have to find out if the groundhog saw his shadow or not.

this is all to say exile kza cause apparently he derp cleared

Not by my definition of derpclear, which is something like revealing beyond a doubt that you're ignorant of information that the wolf team surely would not be. All KZA did was act like the red check was wrong. I get the argument that a redchecked traitor would admit when he's been found out... if one's personal judgement one his reaction is that's honest beyond a doubt, so be it. I think it's a basic go-to mode for getting redchecked as a wolf: deny, deny, deny.

Lmao.

Yeah we just need one town we are willing to bet the game on and we win.

If the anti-cop is alive still then red peeks are probably semi-clearing now?

I'm not gonna accept the auto-run sorry.

The anti cop is confirmed alive, as host said they would flip anti cop when dead, and as long as they have used their ability on themselves (which I am willing to bet on) our cop can clear people.

Sure, the only thing that keeps me from wanting to go auto is the cop checks, but still. I think marmot got two checks now that he hasn't shared?

I like the idea of autoing the green checks from here on in.

I agree re: KZA, where does that leave her in your POE? Before ir after Mac/Gira/Myself??

Yeah, I think so. Not sure about Gira, but you have done a nice volume clear today. Is that something you do as a wolf? Really, asking anyone who knows your play well enough.

Idk it’s something i did this game and i’ve been openly town and openly freeeee.

Can’t ask much more from me

[MacDougall]

sorry I didn't realise that the game was back to thingy phase

[MacDougall]

I'm not the traitor so yeh.

[MacDougall]

my reads have been good so just chop 112 next

@112 what ya doin?

[MacDougall]

@Gavial poll seems cooked m8 how we gonna exile sumbod

[Wisdom]

my reads have been good so just chop 112 next

@112 what ya doin?

TSP is the new 112!

[MacDougall]

my reads have been good so just chop 112 next

@112 what ya doin?

TSP is the new 112!

oh yeh well that then

[MacDougall]

@TonyStarkPrime what you doin m8?

[MacDougall]

how did I end up in the POE lol

[KZA]

how did I end up in the POE lol

Because you uhh are poweranticopping or something

Uhhh

Yeah idk

[MissSparkles]

Via scummy play tbh

One usually doesn’t get there by mech solving, ask Wiml how he looks d blue in comparison

[MacDougall]

Via scummy play tbh

One usually doesn’t get there by mech solving, ask Wiml how he looks d blue in comparison

scummy play?

lol ok

[TonyStarkPrime]

how did I end up in the POE lol

The Poe has like nine names

[MacDougall]

how did I end up in the POE lol

The Poe has like nine names

Ur bad right?

[TonyStarkPrime]

No how about you

[MacDougall]

no u

[MacDougall]

@Marmot what we do

[Gira]

Via scummy play tbh

One usually doesn’t get there by mech solving, ask Wiml how he looks d blue in comparison

this is like always the last traitor

[Gira]

anyway i will reiterate: pick one person and bet the game on them being town, now is literally the best time do so ever because the odds are good. exile them 3 times and get mechanical confirmation. don't cry about losing via traitor exile, you want this person to be the last one standing with marmot anyway so there is NO POINT in playing it safe

[Marmot]

Meh. We're ahead, which means that we absolutely should play it safe, not make calls that have some amount of risk to them.

I know that the odds are in our favor, but there's still a little risk to picking someone (other than myself) to be our permanent exiled target.

[Marmot]

anyway i will reiterate: pick one person and bet the game on them being town, now is literally the best time do so ever because the odds are good. exile them 3 times and get mechanical confirmation. don't cry about losing via traitor exile, you want this person to be the last one standing with marmot anyway so there is NO POINT in playing it safe

Who would you pick?

[Marmot]

I should add that since the anti-cop is the only traitor left, it is possible that it's KZA. The reason he was derp-cleared was because he responded well to my make redpeek, but if he was an anti-cop who self-targeted, he would have known my peek was fake.

I don't think he is, but I feel it's still worth pointing out if we start having trouble finding the last traitor.

[Marmot]

I'd love to exile someone, but the poll still seems to be in Day Mode.

[Gira]

Meh. We're ahead, which means that we absolutely should play it safe, not make calls that have some amount of risk to them.

I know that the odds are in our favor, but there's still a little risk to picking someone (other than myself) to be our permanent exiled target.

marmot, the point is you pick the one person you don't want to eliminate ever, your top town read. what i consider risky, personally is flipping your reads wildly and killing someone you thought was locktown later in the game because you got tinfoily. we can get confirmation that we have made a correct choice and get it sooner rather than later, and that to me is LESS risky than constantly shuffling around reads

anyway i will reiterate: pick one person and bet the game on them being town, now is literally the best time do so ever because the odds are good. exile them 3 times and get mechanical confirmation. don't cry about losing via traitor exile, you want this person to be the last one standing with marmot anyway so there is NO POINT in playing it safe

Who would you pick?

probably mac or creature? those two feel pretty good to me

people are saying KZA possibly townslipped though, could someone show me where? i've barely been paying attention lol

[MacDougall]

I am not the last traitor. Just read my ISO. This ain't my anti-town game.

[Marmot]

I mean if we plow through 7 POE candidates and none of them are hits, we're going to have to flip our reads regardless of which strategy we use. I just want to use the one that will never send a possible traitor to exile more than twice, everyone but me being a possible traitor. Yes it's cautious, but it's not hard.

[Marmot]

We have 8 misyeets before F3 lol.