Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Town Wins)

[EnderWiggin]

owo does night kill immunity extend to soup kills?

Not usually. Soup by definition pierces protection.

[EnderWiggin]

good job hk, you will get pets after we scum flip tsp but we gotta do that first

HK's attitude leaves much to be desired.
I'm going here for now, since this is scum and HK is a whole lot of bad attitude.
[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

See this is how you know he's town.

[honey]

i like hesitantly wanted to out a tr on listo and seanzie earlier but i was afraid of townreading maf which i did last game and shielded them from srs and then seanzie died and flipped town so..

*ahem* i think listo is town

You are one of the rare people who manage to TR me from my EoD vote analysis lol.

But this is what I meant D1 when I said I need more info to really get anywhere >.>

i need to reread it with the info i have now to see if it still holds up bc my srs from my analysis has changed-ender was my conclusion and he seems p fine right now? and hollowcat was my other sus from eod analysis

[Garden Gnome]

anyways, seriously, do whatever it is you want. TH is either operating with the same wattage as a potato battery or is a wolf. Mac is outed wolf. Rip seanzie, you were too pure (also I WAS RIGHT THEY WERE TOWN)
Honey still town, dolby still town, flea town, gnome is a wolf.
don't kill listo, I liked their reads post.

What do you think of TSP?
Some of your reads are good.
Your read of me is not one of them.

[EnderWiggin]

i like hesitantly wanted to out a tr on listo and seanzie earlier but i was afraid of townreading maf which i did last game and shielded them from srs and then seanzie died and flipped town so..

*ahem* i think listo is town

You are one of the rare people who manage to TR me from my EoD vote analysis lol.

But this is what I meant D1 when I said I need more info to really get anywhere >.>

i need to reread it with the info i have now to see if it still holds up bc my srs from my analysis has changed-ender was my conclusion and he seems p fine right now? and hollowcat was my other sus from eod analysis

Maybe it was t/t/t and wolves were just having fun?

I always hate this assumption that if a wolf voted a counterwagon to a leading wagon that leading wagon HAS to be a wolf.

[EnderWiggin]

Of my four main scumreads two have died and flipped green and I now townread the other two...

Amazing. My D1 was shite.

Going to be back much later on and do a proper review.

[TripleHaven]

what hk is doing is VERY CLEARLY an attempt to safe face

You’re gonna have to break it down for me.

Your insistence and double downing on this actually is reading more town tho *sigh*

their JOAT claim is just BS

they're claiming to have the neighborizer, but didn't use it n1 to confirm their role when they were counterwagon and >rand to die the next day or night

2 of their claims are the same role (cop) with no differentiating factor which just isn't a thing

why would you fake claim a red check when you had an actual red check, you'd have to know that your claim was gonna be taken with a grain of salt anyways and especially when you just did something a cop would never do

even if TSP is scummy or flips scum, there's the possibility that HK is hard bussing to save face

hollowkatt is individually scummy

I think we kill both of them

I HAVE A GOD DAMN RED CHECK YOU FUCKING IDIOT

I CLEARLY DON'T BELIEVE YOU

[EnderWiggin]

Last post for now, I'm retracting all my "town do not retract" because my scumside seems so wrong.

Lock towns for today:
HK

That's pretty much it. I like Listo/Scotty too.

[Lime Coke]

I was targeted by at least 4 abilities last night. One of which was definitely mafia.

brag more

Well you got more than 1 visit apparently...

Even if one of them wasn't on purpose apparently?

[honey]

i like hesitantly wanted to out a tr on listo and seanzie earlier but i was afraid of townreading maf which i did last game and shielded them from srs and then seanzie died and flipped town so..

*ahem* i think listo is town

You are one of the rare people who manage to TR me from my EoD vote analysis lol.

But this is what I meant D1 when I said I need more info to really get anywhere >.>

i need to reread it with the info i have now to see if it still holds up bc my srs from my analysis has changed-ender was my conclusion and he seems p fine right now? and hollowcat was my other sus from eod analysis

Maybe it was t/t/t and wolves were just having fun?

I always hate this assumption that if a wolf voted a counterwagon to a leading wagon that leading wagon HAS to be a wolf.

i mean that's just what happened last game cw was vigged and flipped wolf so there is a basis..

[honey]

I was targeted by at least 4 abilities last night. One of which was definitely mafia.

brag more

Well you got more than 1 visit apparently...

Even if one of them wasn't on purpose apparently?

i dont wanna know.. 0> )

[Lime Coke]

@TripleHaven

What makes you not believe HK's red check?

The dude's definitely got some conviction in claiming this.

Is there ever a chance he does this as a wolf to eliminate just 1 person so early in the game?

[hollowkatt]

what hk is doing is VERY CLEARLY an attempt to safe face

You’re gonna have to break it down for me.

Your insistence and double downing on this actually is reading more town tho *sigh*

their JOAT claim is just BS

they're claiming to have the neighborizer, but didn't use it n1 to confirm their role when they were counterwagon and >rand to die the next day or night

2 of their claims are the same role (cop) with no differentiating factor which just isn't a thing

why would you fake claim a red check when you had an actual red check, you'd have to know that your claim was gonna be taken with a grain of salt anyways and especially when you just did something a cop would never do

even if TSP is scummy or flips scum, there's the possibility that HK is hard bussing to save face

hollowkatt is individually scummy

I think we kill both of them

I HAVE A GOD DAMN RED CHECK YOU FUCKING IDIOT

I CLEARLY DON'T BELIEVE YOU

Cool. Glad we understand each other

[hollowkatt]

Some day I'm gonna have to lose my shit as a wolf or this will be a trust tell

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Remember game that significant frustrations should be communicated to the moderator on duty (me) to prevent unduly toxic game threads. Thanks, and please do not interact with this post.

[TripleHaven]

@TripleHaven

What makes you not believe HK's red check?

The dude's definitely got some conviction in claiming this.

Is there ever a chance he does this as a wolf to eliminate just 1 person so early in the game?

HK was on the chopping block. without the claim they were literally being shot by possibly multiple people. it's not just to eliminate 1 person so early in the game, it's to give HK towncred (if bussing their partner) or have them survive 1 more night phase to use an action. there's literally no downside to scum who is already convinced they will die hard claiming and trying to survive the extra night.

[TripleHaven]

anyways im gonna chill out see u guys later

[hollowkatt]

@TripleHaven

What makes you not believe HK's red check?

The dude's definitely got some conviction in claiming this.

Is there ever a chance he does this as a wolf to eliminate just 1 person so early in the game?

HK was on the chopping block. without the claim they were literally being shot by possibly multiple people. it's not just to eliminate 1 person so early in the game, it's to give HK towncred (if bussing their partner) or have them survive 1 more night phase to use an action. there's literally no downside to scum who is already convinced they will die hard claiming and trying to survive the extra night.

What do you make of me opening D2 with a vote on TSP?
You literally think this whole thing is theater?

[Scotty]

i like hesitantly wanted to out a tr on listo and seanzie earlier but i was afraid of townreading maf which i did last game and shielded them from srs and then seanzie died and flipped town so..

*ahem* i think listo is town

You are one of the rare people who manage to TR me from my EoD vote analysis lol.

But this is what I meant D1 when I said I need more info to really get anywhere >.>

You and I are the same in that regard

Also I opened your paper and on the back page I read town so there ya go

[Scotty]

good job hk, you will get pets after we scum flip tsp but we gotta do that first

HK's attitude leaves much to be desired.
I'm going here for now, since this is scum and HK is a whole lot of bad attitude.
[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Ah yes, the begrudging bus of a teammate because their goose is cooked.

Side note, one thanksgiving we were visiting family in Indiana and someone hit and ran on a deer outside their farm. So we find the deer dying in the woods, relative puts it out of its misery and tried skinning and cooking it to not let it go to waste. Well, it had some sort of parasite so we had to let it go anyway and LO AND BEHOLD a goose died right outside an hour before dinner and they threw that in the fryer and we had that as an addendum to our normal turkey and it was pretty damned good

[hollowkatt]

The funniest thing is this: TH is playing like a carbon copy of alexa from the game alexa tilted me into getting banned on mu and TH was the mod/ host for that game.

I dunno why that's so amusing to me but it is

[Garden Gnome]

@TripleHaven

What makes you not believe HK's red check?

The dude's definitely got some conviction in claiming this.

Is there ever a chance he does this as a wolf to eliminate just 1 person so early in the game?

HK was on the chopping block. without the claim they were literally being shot by possibly multiple people. it's not just to eliminate 1 person so early in the game, it's to give HK towncred (if bussing their partner) or have them survive 1 more night phase to use an action. there's literally no downside to scum who is already convinced they will die hard claiming and trying to survive the extra night.

What do you make of me opening D2 with a vote on TSP?
You literally think this whole thing is theater?

It is very possible that I was voting on you based on attitude, rather than a good scumread.

[Dolby]

This is fine

[Dolby]

I hard dislike about 1/5 of Enders takes on his reads list, and his ISO has more fluff than I expected it to have. he does have some good looks IMO and I don’t think I could vote him over Mansnicks

[VOTE: Mansnicks] aubergine

Can you go more into why you voted mansnick, @dolby ? You said multiple times in your ISO that you thought he was TWTBAW, what changed between then and this post?

I was protecting my boy HK and I looked through Enders ISO and couldn’t justify voting him over Mansnicks

[Garden Gnome]

good job hk, you will get pets after we scum flip tsp but we gotta do that first

HK's attitude leaves much to be desired.
I'm going here for now, since this is scum and HK is a whole lot of bad attitude.
[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Ah yes, the begrudging bus of a teammate because their goose is cooked.

Side note, one thanksgiving we were visiting family in Indiana and someone hit and ran on a deer outside their farm. So we find the deer dying in the woods, relative puts it out of its misery and tried skinning and cooking it to not let it go to waste. Well, it had some sort of parasite so we had to let it go anyway and LO AND BEHOLD a goose died right outside an hour before dinner and they threw that in the fryer and we had that as an addendum to our normal turkey and it was pretty damned good

Do you have an actual scumread on me or are you just sheeping HK's bad read?
The dinner does sound delicious, however. The goose, for sure, was cooked.

[Guillotine]

[Dolby]

I’m getting soup killed for this

HK, Seanzie, and myself were all intended gun recipients last night. This is a random 3, and non-exhaustive.

I did receive a gun

HK’s and Seanzie’s guns came from the same source

[Dolby]

unless someone bussed him he’s whack, but also, Seanzies gun blew up on him

[Scotty]

@TripleHaven

What makes you not believe HK's red check?

The dude's definitely got some conviction in claiming this.

Is there ever a chance he does this as a wolf to eliminate just 1 person so early in the game?

HK was on the chopping block. without the claim they were literally being shot by possibly multiple people. it's not just to eliminate 1 person so early in the game, it's to give HK towncred (if bussing their partner) or have them survive 1 more night phase to use an action. there's literally no downside to scum who is already convinced they will die hard claiming and trying to survive the extra night.

What do you make of me opening D2 with a vote on TSP?
You literally think this whole thing is theater?

Well, technically that’s not true.

Like wait for a legacy or whatever, but yeah, I think we obviously take the free extra kill

yeah, we take it
[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

[Dolby]

[VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

[Scotty]

good job hk, you will get pets after we scum flip tsp but we gotta do that first

HK's attitude leaves much to be desired.
I'm going here for now, since this is scum and HK is a whole lot of bad attitude.
[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Ah yes, the begrudging bus of a teammate because their goose is cooked.

Side note, one thanksgiving we were visiting family in Indiana and someone hit and ran on a deer outside their farm. So we find the deer dying in the woods, relative puts it out of its misery and tried skinning and cooking it to not let it go to waste. Well, it had some sort of parasite so we had to let it go anyway and LO AND BEHOLD a goose died right outside an hour before dinner and they threw that in the fryer and we had that as an addendum to our normal turkey and it was pretty damned good

Do you have an actual scumread on me or are you just sheeping HK's bad read?
The dinner does sound delicious, however. The goose, for sure, was cooked.

As I’ve previously cased, I don’t have a strong reason to NOT read you as mafia. TH (I think or maybe it was flea) filled me in that you asking questions and being in the periphery is NAI. I see it as not exactly towncore

[honey]

[VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

wanna share what you're seeing?

[Dolby]

See you all in like 3 hours

[honey]

good job hk, you will get pets after we scum flip tsp but we gotta do that first

HK's attitude leaves much to be desired.
I'm going here for now, since this is scum and HK is a whole lot of bad attitude.
[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Ah yes, the begrudging bus of a teammate because their goose is cooked.

Side note, one thanksgiving we were visiting family in Indiana and someone hit and ran on a deer outside their farm. So we find the deer dying in the woods, relative puts it out of its misery and tried skinning and cooking it to not let it go to waste. Well, it had some sort of parasite so we had to let it go anyway and LO AND BEHOLD a goose died right outside an hour before dinner and they threw that in the fryer and we had that as an addendum to our normal turkey and it was pretty damned good

Do you have an actual scumread on me or are you just sheeping HK's bad read?
The dinner does sound delicious, however. The goose, for sure, was cooked.

what do you think of michelle's interactions with you?

[hollowkatt]

I’m getting soup killed for this

HK, Seanzie, and myself were all intended gun recipients last night. This is a random 3, and non-exhaustive.

I did receive a gun

HK’s and Seanzie’s guns came from the same source

I don't have a gun or TSP would already be dead

[Scotty]

I’m getting soup killed for this

HK, Seanzie, and myself were all intended gun recipients last night. This is a random 3, and non-exhaustive.

I did receive a gun

HK’s and Seanzie’s guns came from the same source

I’m not familiar with how guns work. I’m not used to playing with guns, always keep em in the safe so when the robber comes I can try and remember my 5 digit combination before the murderer guns me down first.

But seriously, you’re saying HK has a gun.

Do you believe that Mac fired a gun?

[honey]

I’m getting soup killed for this

HK, Seanzie, and myself were all intended gun recipients last night. This is a random 3, and non-exhaustive.

I did receive a gun

HK’s and Seanzie’s guns came from the same source

I don't have a gun or TSP would already be dead

i literally had this thought when i read dolby's post

[Lime Coke]

good job hk, you will get pets after we scum flip tsp but we gotta do that first

HK's attitude leaves much to be desired.
I'm going here for now, since this is scum and HK is a whole lot of bad attitude.
[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Ah yes, the begrudging bus of a teammate because their goose is cooked.

Side note, one thanksgiving we were visiting family in Indiana and someone hit and ran on a deer outside their farm. So we find the deer dying in the woods, relative puts it out of its misery and tried skinning and cooking it to not let it go to waste. Well, it had some sort of parasite so we had to let it go anyway and LO AND BEHOLD a goose died right outside an hour before dinner and they threw that in the fryer and we had that as an addendum to our normal turkey and it was pretty damned good

Do you have an actual scumread on me or are you just sheeping HK's bad read?
The dinner does sound delicious, however. The goose, for sure, was cooked.

what do you think of michelle's interactions with you?

Well I heard that she was insistent that she paid for the bill at the restaurant.

[hollowkatt]

@TripleHaven

What makes you not believe HK's red check?

The dude's definitely got some conviction in claiming this.

Is there ever a chance he does this as a wolf to eliminate just 1 person so early in the game?

HK was on the chopping block. without the claim they were literally being shot by possibly multiple people. it's not just to eliminate 1 person so early in the game, it's to give HK towncred (if bussing their partner) or have them survive 1 more night phase to use an action. there's literally no downside to scum who is already convinced they will die hard claiming and trying to survive the extra night.

What do you make of me opening D2 with a vote on TSP?
You literally think this whole thing is theater?

Well, technically that’s not true.

Like wait for a legacy or whatever, but yeah, I think we obviously take the free extra kill

yeah, we take it
[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

here's my first post today

rip mansnicks someday I'll read you as town I promise.
lets kill TSP today
[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Sorry, it was always TSP, even before you.

[Dolby]

[VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

wanna share what you're seeing?

I mean I kinda have

He’s claimed at express danger of a soup kill when he could have just shot his gun and been safe from a soup kill, and pretty much got clear off the shot, with probable night kill immunity for N2. He’s put himself in danger of multiple gun shots from possible townies, though I still don’t know who Seanzie wanted to shoot.

At this point it’s def not a reaction test, he walked past that window when he said that he did have a real check after Mac went after him for a rescind

[Scotty]

Doh you right kittykat you right. My bad

[Dolby]

I’m getting soup killed for this

HK, Seanzie, and myself were all intended gun recipients last night. This is a random 3, and non-exhaustive.

I did receive a gun

HK’s and Seanzie’s guns came from the same source

I’m not familiar with how guns work. I’m not used to playing with guns, always keep em in the safe so when the robber comes I can try and remember my 5 digit combination before the murderer guns me down first.

But seriously, you’re saying HK has a gun.

Do you believe that Mac fired a gun?

Yes I think Mac fired a gun

Y’all couldn’t come 15 minutes sooner?

[hollowkatt]

I mean I naked vote someone with my first post of the day saying lets kill TSP today when yesterday I don't think I'd expressed any amount of suspicion on him.
If I'm a wolf here with TSP why do I push someone I've not actually sus'd before?

Why don't I push a sus wolf? Why do I drop that vote, then engage with others on what else to do today and how to solve via michelle spew?

I think what people (read TH specifically) are missing is that first post of the day.
The "red check" post was never the first time I sus'd TSP, and my push there was never "in response" to anyone.

That's why I'm getting heated, because ain't nobody out there doing any amount of due diligence at all. And yeah, if I was given a gun over night I wouldn't have made that vote, I'd have shot TSP with my first post.

[hollowkatt]

[VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

wanna share what you're seeing?

I mean I kinda have

He’s claimed at express danger of a soup kill when he could have just shot his gun and been safe from a soup kill, and pretty much got clear off the shot, with probable night kill immunity for N2. He’s put himself in danger of multiple gun shots from possible townies, though I still don’t know who Seanzie wanted to shoot.

At this point it’s def not a reaction test, he walked past that window when he said that he did have a real check after Mac went after him for a rescind

I have no gun and I must scream.

[Garden Gnome]

good job hk, you will get pets after we scum flip tsp but we gotta do that first

HK's attitude leaves much to be desired.
I'm going here for now, since this is scum and HK is a whole lot of bad attitude.
[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Ah yes, the begrudging bus of a teammate because their goose is cooked.

Side note, one thanksgiving we were visiting family in Indiana and someone hit and ran on a deer outside their farm. So we find the deer dying in the woods, relative puts it out of its misery and tried skinning and cooking it to not let it go to waste. Well, it had some sort of parasite so we had to let it go anyway and LO AND BEHOLD a goose died right outside an hour before dinner and they threw that in the fryer and we had that as an addendum to our normal turkey and it was pretty damned good

Do you have an actual scumread on me or are you just sheeping HK's bad read?
The dinner does sound delicious, however. The goose, for sure, was cooked.

As I’ve previously cased, I don’t have a strong reason to NOT read you as mafia. TH (I think or maybe it was flea) filled me in that you asking questions and being in the periphery is NAI. I see it as not exactly towncore

You are scum reading me because you don't have a reason not to scumread me? But you also don't have much of a reason to scum read me. Logic isn't really my strong suit, but yours seems to be flawed. It sounds like you have a town core of a few people and then everyone else is scum. In other words, you believe that you are surrounded by scum. Everywhere you turn, there's someone who is not in your town core, and that's yet another scum. You need to build a moat filled with pirhana. Or hide. One of the two.

[Dolby]

See you in a bit over 2 hours. Sorry I can’t be here longer but that’s all the night info I have

[Scotty]

good job hk, you will get pets after we scum flip tsp but we gotta do that first

HK's attitude leaves much to be desired.
I'm going here for now, since this is scum and HK is a whole lot of bad attitude.
[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Ah yes, the begrudging bus of a teammate because their goose is cooked.

Side note, one thanksgiving we were visiting family in Indiana and someone hit and ran on a deer outside their farm. So we find the deer dying in the woods, relative puts it out of its misery and tried skinning and cooking it to not let it go to waste. Well, it had some sort of parasite so we had to let it go anyway and LO AND BEHOLD a goose died right outside an hour before dinner and they threw that in the fryer and we had that as an addendum to our normal turkey and it was pretty damned good

Do you have an actual scumread on me or are you just sheeping HK's bad read?
The dinner does sound delicious, however. The goose, for sure, was cooked.

As I’ve previously cased, I don’t have a strong reason to NOT read you as mafia. TH (I think or maybe it was flea) filled me in that you asking questions and being in the periphery is NAI. I see it as not exactly towncore

You are scum reading me because you don't have a reason not to scumread me? But you also don't have much of a reason to scum read me. Logic isn't really my strong suit, but yours seems to be flawed. It sounds like you have a town core of a few people and then everyone else is scum. In other words, you believe that you are surrounded by scum. Everywhere you turn, there's someone who is not in your town core, and that's yet another scum. You need to build a moat filled with pirhana. Or hide. One of the two.

Do you think you deserve to be considered in the “towncore” of this game? Asking honestly

[hollowkatt]

Like either I'm dying today and flip town and then you all kill TSP tomorrow and maybe chain that into gnome OR we're killing TSP today and he'll flip a wolf.

[honey]

[VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

wanna share what you're seeing?

I mean I kinda have

He’s claimed at express danger of a soup kill when he could have just shot his gun and been safe from a soup kill, and pretty much got clear off the shot, with probable night kill immunity for N2. He’s put himself in danger of multiple gun shots from possible townies, though I still don’t know who Seanzie wanted to shoot.

At this point it’s def not a reaction test, he walked past that window when he said that he did have a real check after Mac went after him for a rescind

he says he has no gun which voids most of this and i think he had a real progression on his push on tsp, he didnt hardclaim right from the start and as mafia would he put himself in a direct cc like this? also tsp has not been towny at all today so idk why youre so quick to dismiss hk we should be looking at tsp legit

[Scotty]

See you in a bit over 2 hours. Sorry I can’t be here longer but that’s all the night info I have

Thanks Dolby

Remember, as Dom always says, the most important thing in life will always be the people in this room