Buckets: War of the GOATs [END]

[EnderWiggin]

Mac baiting Wiml to hammer?

I've seen this somewhere before...

[Wiml]

@Wiml I am tempted to hammer LC here and go to night before I go to bed.

I'm annoyed you beat me to this joke because I was going to make it as well lol.

[MacDougall]

Im not joking I really just wanna get information now. This is all just circular bs.

[ilario]

The way LC deals with Wiml is actually a bit weird.

READLIIIIIIST:


Town:
Alexa
Esooa
Ender
Alison
Illario
Wiml
Mac
Nanook
TSP
Transcend
Maf:

The bottom 3 are more POE.

At this point in the game he has him pretty low. Hasn't engaged with him, tried to figure him out or anything.

Next mention of Wiml he sheeps Alexa townreading him.

Wiml just feels like solid town to me

Same.

Going in here are some disassociations I have.

Alexa - Esooa, Lime Coke, Wiml, Ilario
Ender - nobody?
Esooa - Alexa
ilario - Alexa, Nanook
Lime Coke - Alexa
Nanook - Wiml, Ilario
TSP - Nobody
Wiml - Nanook, Alexa

I'm an idiot, what is this pointing out?

Players that are not teamed from my perspective

I'm mean I'm pretty sure you can add Wiml to Esooa's list because she's literally been pushing him since Day 1.

Conscious of who has been pushing Wiml.

I'm an idiot, what is this pointing out?

Players that are not teamed from my perspective

I'm mean I'm pretty sure you can add Wiml to Esooa's list because she's literally been pushing him since Day 1.

Nah its in their teammate range. Especially given Esooa was a little bit hedgey about it d1 and Wiml was never at actual risk.

Wasn't he a wagon at EOD?

The one you were on before you switched to Transcend after getting him on said wagon for some reason?

And again.

This post was why I asked.

Ftr, LC actually knows me fairly well and we've probably played together like 7-8 times. LC's treatment of me this game is actually really off.

can you go into why u think his treatment is off between you two? i dont know anything about ur dynamic

[Wiml]

I had a wall explaining my Mac read and I just accidentally deleted it lol.

[alexa]

alright im gonna try to catch up nowww

[Wiml]

Im not joking I really just wanna get information now. This is all just circular bs.

Stop, you're actually appealing to me.

[MacDougall]

I had a wall explaining my Mac read and I just accidentally deleted it lol.

Good. Fuck that shit.

[alexa]

i just remember thinking brad's "i'm way out of my wolf range and in my town range here" comment was funny then i forgot about the game
the language was kind of awkward but i dunno

[Wiml]

The way LC deals with Wiml is actually a bit weird.

READLIIIIIIST:


Town:
Alexa
Esooa
Ender
Alison
Illario
Wiml
Mac
Nanook
TSP
Transcend
Maf:

The bottom 3 are more POE.

At this point in the game he has him pretty low. Hasn't engaged with him, tried to figure him out or anything.

Next mention of Wiml he sheeps Alexa townreading him.

Wiml just feels like solid town to me

Same.

Going in here are some disassociations I have.

Alexa - Esooa, Lime Coke, Wiml, Ilario
Ender - nobody?
Esooa - Alexa
ilario - Alexa, Nanook
Lime Coke - Alexa
Nanook - Wiml, Ilario
TSP - Nobody
Wiml - Nanook, Alexa

I'm an idiot, what is this pointing out?

Players that are not teamed from my perspective

I'm mean I'm pretty sure you can add Wiml to Esooa's list because she's literally been pushing him since Day 1.

Conscious of who has been pushing Wiml.

Players that are not teamed from my perspective

I'm mean I'm pretty sure you can add Wiml to Esooa's list because she's literally been pushing him since Day 1.

Nah its in their teammate range. Especially given Esooa was a little bit hedgey about it d1 and Wiml was never at actual risk.

Wasn't he a wagon at EOD?

The one you were on before you switched to Transcend after getting him on said wagon for some reason?

And again.

This post was why I asked.

Ftr, LC actually knows me fairly well and we've probably played together like 7-8 times. LC's treatment of me this game is actually really off.

can you go into why u think his treatment is off between you two? i dont know anything about ur dynamic

He's mostly just not really trying to interact with me at all? Which I had mostly brushed off as not being I the thread at the same time as him very often but I actually don't think he's put his usual amount of effort into reading me this game either.

Which is weird because he generally believes our playstyles have a lot of parallels and is usually actually pretty good at reading me?

[ilario]

I WILL PUT MY RESPONSES IN GIANT BOLD LETTERS TO MAKE THIS EASIER TO READ!!!

Maybe not 200 font, but the 150 seems to work.

LC ISO:

Spoiler: show

I actually don't have a single read yet.

His first non-fluff is saying he doesn't have reads.

Then:

Whose gonna be your hard-shield this game LC?

You're voting them.

When questioned he puts this up to start shielding Alexa.

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I didn't actually townread Alexa at the time. However you asked the question, I was answering seeing that if I ended up townreading Alexa, which I did about an hour later, I would've hard shielded her like I usually do.

But they were hedgy LC.

That's what's weird I don't really know what there is to hedge yet. Only thing is a townread on me from Mac before she stated that as far as I can see immediately.

Takes my joke super seriously. Sometimes it's a scumtell sometimes not.

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I have the "Take jokes seriously is scummy" policy myself, so I get where you're coming from on this.

But in my response, I didn't think that was a joke post. When you responded with "It was a joke" that was why I responded with "I'm a fucking idiot" because I indeed felt like an idiot and I broke my own rule due to a misunderstanding.

Like, she hasn't really done anything that's her town game YET. If Alexa gets going she'll be obvious town.

Everything I do is my town game because I’m town

(I also agree I don’t think I’ve done anything AI yet if someone had a correct read on me it would be surprising or a crapshoot from numbers/probability odds)

Yes, and everyone that is townreading you that's not me has TMI.

I will then tunnel those individuals, and then complain about them once they flip town and take 0 blame.

Then proceed to lead town into an L.

I don’t think he would like not out a read on me/be hesitant to read me if he was wolfing here, to me it sounds like town who is worried I’m wolf/worried he won’t be able to find me since he worries I’m not as obvious town as the previous times I was town (and I can see him wanting to be able to catch me if I’m wolf too) so I feel his approach me makes sense as a villager

This actually kinda hits it on the head and I'm townreading you now because of that explanation.

Spoiler: show

You gotta flip wolf against me eventually, though.

LC is town, I agree.

If I'm wrong on this it'll be obvious by Day 3.

This is...fucking accurate and I've never actually said anything about this.

mac town

I can’t figure out how to multiquote from my phone but pretend I quoted this quote and also you calling wiml town and then Mac wolf

And my response is .... are you going to explain anything?

You have the quote button, then to the right of that is the 2 word bubbles, that is collects for multi-quote.

@alexa

Then this string, which doesn't do a lot.

Focuses on the Alexa read, then helps mech.

Nothing too important.

Then some more non-interactions like:

I'm town

Are you?

And then outs a basic ass townread on me like:

kind of gut townreading EnderWiggin

Agreeing with you. The "I'll find him by Day 3" post was actually kinda bad ass and towny.

Has some early townreads and interactions, also has a hard-shield player.

He then spends a majority of the next posts defending Alexa from various sussing, then susses Ilario hard.

Then Alison causes a bit of sus to come LC's direction and he fends it off okay.

Just saw that I rate a 7/10 on Alison's scum game quality eval.

Just noting here that I actually feel like I can do better than that. I will either improve or prove that I'm worth of at least a 9/10 some time in the future. /ego

Then a bunch more fluff including great snark at me.

Then:

I was eating popcorn.

Why does Nanook have a wagon?

Incidentally his first mention of Nanook all game.

A lot more fluff.

Okay but seriously.

Townreads:
Alexa
Esooa
Ender
Nanook
Illario (Sheeping Alexa)


That's all I have currently.

Then finally puts out a general townlist. This is fine.

Then plays HARD shield, which is normally a good look for LC.

THEN gets in a fight with Transcend.

THEN outs this reads list:

READLIIIIIIST:


Town:
Alexa
Esooa
Ender
Alison
Illario
Wiml
Mac
Nanook
TSP
Transcend
Maf:

The bottom 3 are more POE.

Which is just hilarious to me.

Then mostly fluff and directly joking with Alexa.

Hi. What is your solve?

Transcend is 1, and the other is either Nanook or maybe TSP?

I don't know the stuff with Mac. Is Mac capable of making that many team solves at once as mafia?

if wiml is town then esooa/Alison/ilario/transcend contain wolves with ilario/esooa or ilario/Alison or transcend/Alison being the team

if Alison is town its wiml/transcend with esooa as swing

if transcend is town it's just wiml/ilario

if ilario is town wiml is always a wolf

if esooa is town it's wiml/transcend with Alison as swing

I'm talking this type of post, is there a world where Mac makes this post as mafia?

Then moves to this Mac read, this is a little nuanced compared to previous stuff I remember from his wolf game.

Then more fluff and defense of Alexa.

Actually gives solid thoughts on why Alexa is town, but this is not outside LC wolf range.

D2 he actually asks a few questions while continuing with the Alexa shield.

Starts to press Mac hard. Most of the rest of his game is aggro on LC

THIS IS WHERE THE FUN STARTS.

Time to cross-reference.

IN JOATED:
Plays very similar. Outs strong townread and defends. Aggros on some people. Offers some townreads. Generally gets quieter as the game goes.

I actually reckon LC is in his scum range.

In the little town exposure, I've seen him make reads where he explains the reasoning for his decisions, as if showing off the way he's mentally arrived at this thought.

In this game he has only outed townreads, with the only one he's properly explained is his Alexa shield.

This is exactly the same as in JOATED where he only outed reasons for shielding Honey.

Interestingly, I actually think LC's current play is more scum!Indicative of him than town.

Turns out I can change my mind.

Okay, there wasn't much that I could actually respond to? This was mostly commentary. I DON'T know how to respond to commentary.

You say I fell off but I kinda do that as town too? Like Illario said, I start off strong, usually Day 1 I play really well, but by Day 3 or 4 I lose energy, motivation, and interest depending on how well the game is going.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... f-the-Rift

Another town game I was on my alt Mystery Player, which is not a mystery anymore . I was strong all of Day 1, then Day 2 I hard defend Neo (NEO TOWN!) and go crazy with it (Again I'm trying to calm down), but my energy level went down further and further as the game went on because it was exhausting, and SaraC was annoying me.

I lose steam in games, this game specifically is draining me a bit. Like I said in games that I hard shield Alexa, or others, I end up losing game awareness and I forget most of my reads it's an awful ass habit.

I'll post this for now but I'm going to continue on, give me a few minutes.

To add to why I don’t like this post:

His initial reaction is “okay there isn’t much that I can actually respond to? I don’t know how to respond to commentary”

Why does he feel the need to be able to respond to anything? I feel like that’s more of a scum mindset, where you see a case against you and you need to try and disprove it. I feel like my first instinct if I were to see a case on me would be to determine if the case is coming in good or bad faith. I don’t feeel like LC does anything there to evaluate Enders push on him.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I haven’t ever hung around til endgame in a game with w!Ender but like eh I don’t think he’s pretty much ever a wolf here tbh

Articulate what made you say this.

the enthusiasm he has around the LC case feels really hard to fake for most players. you said you thought it was possible, that seems like wishful thinking. maybe he could fake the case itself, but i don't think he treats it the same way if he's a wolf.

[alexa]

I WILL PUT MY RESPONSES IN GIANT BOLD LETTERS TO MAKE THIS EASIER TO READ!!!

Maybe not 200 font, but the 150 seems to work.

LC ISO:

Spoiler: show

I actually don't have a single read yet.

His first non-fluff is saying he doesn't have reads.

Then:

Whose gonna be your hard-shield this game LC?

You're voting them.

When questioned he puts this up to start shielding Alexa.

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I didn't actually townread Alexa at the time. However you asked the question, I was answering seeing that if I ended up townreading Alexa, which I did about an hour later, I would've hard shielded her like I usually do.

But they were hedgy LC.

That's what's weird I don't really know what there is to hedge yet. Only thing is a townread on me from Mac before she stated that as far as I can see immediately.

Takes my joke super seriously. Sometimes it's a scumtell sometimes not.

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I have the "Take jokes seriously is scummy" policy myself, so I get where you're coming from on this.

But in my response, I didn't think that was a joke post. When you responded with "It was a joke" that was why I responded with "I'm a fucking idiot" because I indeed felt like an idiot and I broke my own rule due to a misunderstanding.

Like, she hasn't really done anything that's her town game YET. If Alexa gets going she'll be obvious town.

Everything I do is my town game because I’m town

(I also agree I don’t think I’ve done anything AI yet if someone had a correct read on me it would be surprising or a crapshoot from numbers/probability odds)

Yes, and everyone that is townreading you that's not me has TMI.

I will then tunnel those individuals, and then complain about them once they flip town and take 0 blame.

Then proceed to lead town into an L.

I don’t think he would like not out a read on me/be hesitant to read me if he was wolfing here, to me it sounds like town who is worried I’m wolf/worried he won’t be able to find me since he worries I’m not as obvious town as the previous times I was town (and I can see him wanting to be able to catch me if I’m wolf too) so I feel his approach me makes sense as a villager

This actually kinda hits it on the head and I'm townreading you now because of that explanation.

Spoiler: show

You gotta flip wolf against me eventually, though.

LC is town, I agree.

If I'm wrong on this it'll be obvious by Day 3.

This is...fucking accurate and I've never actually said anything about this.

mac town

I can’t figure out how to multiquote from my phone but pretend I quoted this quote and also you calling wiml town and then Mac wolf

And my response is .... are you going to explain anything?

You have the quote button, then to the right of that is the 2 word bubbles, that is collects for multi-quote.

@alexa

Then this string, which doesn't do a lot.

Focuses on the Alexa read, then helps mech.

Nothing too important.

Then some more non-interactions like:

I'm town

Are you?

And then outs a basic ass townread on me like:

kind of gut townreading EnderWiggin

Agreeing with you. The "I'll find him by Day 3" post was actually kinda bad ass and towny.

Has some early townreads and interactions, also has a hard-shield player.

He then spends a majority of the next posts defending Alexa from various sussing, then susses Ilario hard.

Then Alison causes a bit of sus to come LC's direction and he fends it off okay.

Just saw that I rate a 7/10 on Alison's scum game quality eval.

Just noting here that I actually feel like I can do better than that. I will either improve or prove that I'm worth of at least a 9/10 some time in the future. /ego

Then a bunch more fluff including great snark at me.

Then:

I was eating popcorn.

Why does Nanook have a wagon?

Incidentally his first mention of Nanook all game.

A lot more fluff.

Okay but seriously.

Townreads:
Alexa
Esooa
Ender
Nanook
Illario (Sheeping Alexa)


That's all I have currently.

Then finally puts out a general townlist. This is fine.

Then plays HARD shield, which is normally a good look for LC.

THEN gets in a fight with Transcend.

THEN outs this reads list:

READLIIIIIIST:


Town:
Alexa
Esooa
Ender
Alison
Illario
Wiml
Mac
Nanook
TSP
Transcend
Maf:

The bottom 3 are more POE.

Which is just hilarious to me.

Then mostly fluff and directly joking with Alexa.

Hi. What is your solve?

Transcend is 1, and the other is either Nanook or maybe TSP?

I don't know the stuff with Mac. Is Mac capable of making that many team solves at once as mafia?

if wiml is town then esooa/Alison/ilario/transcend contain wolves with ilario/esooa or ilario/Alison or transcend/Alison being the team

if Alison is town its wiml/transcend with esooa as swing

if transcend is town it's just wiml/ilario

if ilario is town wiml is always a wolf

if esooa is town it's wiml/transcend with Alison as swing

I'm talking this type of post, is there a world where Mac makes this post as mafia?

Then moves to this Mac read, this is a little nuanced compared to previous stuff I remember from his wolf game.

Then more fluff and defense of Alexa.

Actually gives solid thoughts on why Alexa is town, but this is not outside LC wolf range.

D2 he actually asks a few questions while continuing with the Alexa shield.

Starts to press Mac hard. Most of the rest of his game is aggro on LC

THIS IS WHERE THE FUN STARTS.

Time to cross-reference.

IN JOATED:
Plays very similar. Outs strong townread and defends. Aggros on some people. Offers some townreads. Generally gets quieter as the game goes.

I actually reckon LC is in his scum range.

In the little town exposure, I've seen him make reads where he explains the reasoning for his decisions, as if showing off the way he's mentally arrived at this thought.

In this game he has only outed townreads, with the only one he's properly explained is his Alexa shield.

This is exactly the same as in JOATED where he only outed reasons for shielding Honey.

Interestingly, I actually think LC's current play is more scum!Indicative of him than town.

Turns out I can change my mind.

Okay, there wasn't much that I could actually respond to? This was mostly commentary. I DON'T know how to respond to commentary.

You say I fell off but I kinda do that as town too? Like Illario said, I start off strong, usually Day 1 I play really well, but by Day 3 or 4 I lose energy, motivation, and interest depending on how well the game is going.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... f-the-Rift

Another town game I was on my alt Mystery Player, which is not a mystery anymore . I was strong all of Day 1, then Day 2 I hard defend Neo (NEO TOWN!) and go crazy with it (Again I'm trying to calm down), but my energy level went down further and further as the game went on because it was exhausting, and SaraC was annoying me.

I lose steam in games, this game specifically is draining me a bit. Like I said in games that I hard shield Alexa, or others, I end up losing game awareness and I forget most of my reads it's an awful ass habit.

I'll post this for now but I'm going to continue on, give me a few minutes.

To add to why I don’t like this post:

His initial reaction is “okay there isn’t much that I can actually respond to? I don’t know how to respond to commentary”

Why does he feel the need to be able to respond to anything? I feel like that’s more of a scum mindset, where you see a case against you and you need to try and disprove it. I feel like my first instinct if I were to see a case on me would be to determine if the case is coming in good or bad faith. I don’t feeel like LC does anything there to evaluate Enders push on him.

yeah I found his reaction off too

[alexa]

oh man if we gave matt all that flack day one and he was right on lC LOL

[TonyStarkPrime]

who's we smh

[ilario]

oh man if we gave matt all that flack day one and he was right on lC LOL

LMAOOOOOOOOO i said that earlier somewhere

[alexa]

Ignore the shielding thing.

Read my post about how as town you try to out reads that AREN'T your shield.

And when you do those reads have some thought process to them, explaining why you got there.

I'll read over the games you linked later when I'm not at work to ensure it is consistent with my understanding of your play, but I'm not questioning the Shield part.

That's fine that you see that I haven't been really explaining most of my townreads. That's mainly because I'm just reacting quickly and certain players I really can't explain reads for?

Like Esooa I've played multiple games with by now. I can't really explain why she's town, I'm not capable of explaining her town or mafia meta because she changes every damn game depending on her level of motivation. I just end up reading her a certain alignment and move on.

Illario relatively the same thing? Like the main town thing he has is the "town entitlement" stuff and the way he explains his townreads and the fact that he usually falls back on scumreads when he's town. Otherwise the rest of the stuff he does as town he can do as mafia so it makes it tricky to explain his game. (Alexa does way better explaining his game tbh.)

I've already explained you how I liked the whole "I'll figure out his alignment by Day 2/3" post, which ironically you're doing the opposite of that . But the effort you're putting in right now at looking at my past games and explaining the scumread on me is HUGELY towny.

this post is kind of meh
the explanation on Esooa is just.. lacking for brad's usual conviction?

i dunno i don't feel as comfortable when i got the read so off in deck mafia, i'm gonna look there again

[Wiml]

I had a wall explaining my Mac read and I just accidentally deleted it lol.

Good. Fuck that shit.

Tl;dr of the bit you asked me about was that I think you're relying almost solely on faked towniness in a way that I don't think you would need to as town and which actively shows that you're struggling to demonstrate legitimate reasons for you to be town. I think it's a really jarring difference compared to how you played in Traitors for Exile and even Scythe.

[MacDougall]

I am never voting LC after four separate people somehow come together in this game state to push him like hyenas after Ender makes a case. Ew ew ew.

[MacDougall]

I had a wall explaining my Mac read and I just accidentally deleted it lol.

Good. Fuck that shit.

Tl;dr of the bit you asked me about was that I think you're relying almost solely on faked towniness in a way that I don't think you would need to as town and which actively shows that you're struggling to demonstrate legitimate reasons for you to be town. I think it's a really jarring difference compared to how you played in Traitors for Exile and even Scythe.

I haven't faked anything dude. You're levelling the fuck out of yourself with this read.

[alexa]

I am never voting LC after four separate people somehow come together in this game state to push him like hyenas after Ender makes a case. Ew ew ew.

i still don't know if i'm voting him

[EnderWiggin]

Also Legacy if I do die tonight:
I'm almost certain there's a wolf somewhere in Mac/Wiml.

I have changed my mind on who to be a reliable teller though.

[MacDougall]

Irrelevant. Wiml, TSP, Ilario and now you have all approached this LC opportunity like hungry forest beasts and if all four of you are town doing this I will eat my own ass.

[EnderWiggin]

I am never voting LC after four separate people somehow come together in this game state to push him like hyenas after Ender makes a case. Ew ew ew.

Okay but what if they just come to agree with my read?

[alexa]

Irrelevant. Wiml, TSP, Ilario and now you have all approached this LC opportunity like hungry forest beasts and if all four of you are town doing this I will eat my own ass.

LC's classically not a difficult read. so if you have a bunch of slots that know him well calling him mafia, he usually is

where i left off you had him as scum too - you're changing just because of people's votes? you realize if he's scum he only has one partner here? who is the person voting him in bad faith?

[Wiml]

Irrelevant. Wiml, TSP, Ilario and now you have all approached this LC opportunity like hungry forest beasts and if all four of you are town doing this I will eat my own ass.

"Irrelevant" is my favourite fourth wolf tbh.

[Wiml]

If LC flips wolf please turbo Mac though lol.

[MacDougall]

I've seen this all too often. We have been at each other's throats for 2 days can't agree on mcfuck and suddenly everyone's houses align cuz ender did an iso. Not buying.

[MacDougall]

If LC flips wolf please turbo Mac though lol.

Im find with that but then flip wiml after me for this exact post.

[Wiml]

In my defence I was more probing LC than pushing him.

He's polarised and probably just town but to say that some of the stuff he's done isn't iffy would be lying.

[MacDougall]

If LC flips wolf please turbo Mac though lol.

Though you are mighty quick to make this read after how LC dealt with me today. If he's wolf I am very much spewed clear friend.

[MacDougall]

In my defence I was more probing LC than pushing him.

He's polarised and probably just town but to say that some of the stuff he's done isn't iffy would be lying.

Look at me attack five players at the same time for pushing my scumread lollll.

[Wiml]

If LC flips wolf please turbo Mac though lol.

Though you are mighty quick to make this read after how LC dealt with me today. If he's wolf I am very much spewed clear friend.

I didn't really factor anything else into that post other than the fact that I'm pretty sure this is exactly how you would try to defend a partner and I think you're probably a wolf anyway.

I have no idea if you're right lol.

[MacDougall]

If LC flips wolf please turbo Mac though lol.

Though you are mighty quick to make this read after how LC dealt with me today. If he's wolf I am very much spewed clear friend.

I didn't really factor anything else into that post other than the fact that I'm pretty sure this is exactly how you would try to defend a partner and I think you're probably a wolf anyway.

I have no idea if you're right lol.

Of course you do. You were there commenting when he was screaming about how scummy I am.

[MacDougall]

He was literally scumreading me as YOUR teammate because I baited Transcend into unvoting himself onto you and then moved off you to him.

[Wiml]

He was literally scumreading me as YOUR teammate because I baited Transcend into unvoting himself onto you and then moved off you to him.

Oh yeah oops.

I was trying to think of something more recent.

[Wiml]

Ngl I just glossed over most of the posts with big font and emojis.

[ilario]

Ignore the shielding thing.

Read my post about how as town you try to out reads that AREN'T your shield.

And when you do those reads have some thought process to them, explaining why you got there.

I'll read over the games you linked later when I'm not at work to ensure it is consistent with my understanding of your play, but I'm not questioning the Shield part.

That's fine that you see that I haven't been really explaining most of my townreads. That's mainly because I'm just reacting quickly and certain players I really can't explain reads for?

Like Esooa I've played multiple games with by now. I can't really explain why she's town, I'm not capable of explaining her town or mafia meta because she changes every damn game depending on her level of motivation. I just end up reading her a certain alignment and move on.

Illario relatively the same thing? Like the main town thing he has is the "town entitlement" stuff and the way he explains his townreads and the fact that he usually falls back on scumreads when he's town. Otherwise the rest of the stuff he does as town he can do as mafia so it makes it tricky to explain his game. (Alexa does way better explaining his game tbh.)

I've already explained you how I liked the whole "I'll figure out his alignment by Day 2/3" post, which ironically you're doing the opposite of that . But the effort you're putting in right now at looking at my past games and explaining the scumread on me is HUGELY towny.

this post is kind of meh
the explanation on Esooa is just.. lacking for brad's usual conviction?

i dunno i don't feel as comfortable when i got the read so off in deck mafia, i'm gonna look there again

LOL alexa i just noticed his explanation for me. do you think its accurate? like the first thing he said was about my town entitlement, except i dont think ive expressed that at all this game? i feel like ive been actively trying to dampen that aspect of my gameplay? feels weird for him to say that or maybe i have but i havent noticed it idk thats why im asking u

[ilario]

to counter macs point, i was actually defending lc initially from enders push. i only re-evaluated him more closely after i noticed the slip and then a few other things didnt add up which made me wanna put closer attention on his slot.

[Wiml]

to counter macs point, i was actually defending lc initially from enders push. i only re-evaluated him more closely after i noticed the slip and then a few other things didnt add up which made me wanna put closer attention on his slot.

Ftr I am like 99% sure that wasn't a real scumslip. I think the wording was fine?

[Wiml]

Gee am I glad to open a "light" ISO of "only" 284 posts.

[ilario]

Really? Why would he say “I do that when I’m town too”

Instead of saying “I always do that when I’m town” or something along those lines

[Wiml]

Really? Why would he say “I do that when I’m town too”

Instead of saying “I always do that when I’m town” or something along those lines

I don't remember the post exactly otoh but the wording seemed fine within the context.

I can count the number of genuine scumslips I've seen on one hand and when they happen you'll know about it lol.

[Wiml]

Like if you really want me to explain the semantics of that:

"I do that when I'm town too" I don't believe is referencing specifically this game but the wider pool of LC town games and that makes perfect sense regardless of alignment.

[ilario]

Ohhhhhh yeah okay I get the context now

[EnderWiggin]

Gee am I glad to open a "light" ISO of "only" 284 posts.

We don't stare into the void of Alexa's 700 post ISO.

[ilario]

I think there’s two ways to interpret it but I’m seeing the way u mention too now

[Wiml]

Gee am I glad to open a "light" ISO of "only" 284 posts.

We don't stare into the void of Alexa's 700 post ISO.

This is just why you just decide that alexa is town and deal with the consequences later.

[alexa]

^^^ that is the way

[TonyStarkPrime]

If LC flips wolf please turbo Mac though lol.

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