The Witcher Mafia [Game Over]

[Michelle]

Deepwolf options aren't much.

Scotty and Mac are conf!town.
Michelle should be self-resolving.
Tutuu was suggesting they be voted off instead of desperado'd.
Rondo is currently a top-poster, and still new to forum mafia, I think. So that could mean they're likely too new to be wolfing at this point.

There is no such thing as too new to be wolfing imo, the rand is a gift from RNG gods
I heard countless stories about randing wolf in the first game and winning because they were derp cleared or something

This post is general, adressed for the idea of too new to be wolf, and not a read for Rond.

[MacDougall]

last night i targeted poison bc i was too lazy to reread and mac said they were a 3p read and i hate all 3p so i went on it LMFAO

scotty/sig still on my scumdar

They claimed RBer later. Probably a claim close to their real role and they can say it is a way of claiming safe if they are villager to avoid a soup kill. Whether a soup kill exists or not, we don't really know it because 'Role/flavour claiming is allowed but it may not be in your best interests' doesn't imply an anticlaim mechanic that big, but mafia can have a claim vigi for eg.

My problem with sheeping Mac on a 3rd read is that a villager would always RB a mafia read as the best mechanical play @MacDougall please confirm me that a player with 5 years game experience would chases mafia and not 3rds in N1.
Choosing from Mac's reads exactly the 3rd part read is not only antitown, it's what mafia would do because they fear the most 3rds abilities who can cause a lot of harm to the wolves.

The LMFAO is added artificially to make the post appealing and coming like from an unstressed player, but i feel it fake and added to hide the awkward target of someone who should not be targeted by a town out of common sense.

The line of scum reads is performative and pushes Scotty who we know now is villager.

Dkkoba is mafia because from all Mac's reads they targeted the 3rd part read and made the post like an excuse. The last line is added to show themselves as solvy but is in fact a hidden push for Scotty. Idk what does for Sig but this is a concern after Dkkoba will flip.

That would be the proof number 2

If I was town roleblocker I would not have targeted you. I'd have targeted Syn or DrWilgy given where my reads were at. I would never have targeted my own meme 3p read let alone someone elses.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Deepwolf options aren't much.

Scotty and Mac are conf!town.
Michelle should be self-resolving.
Tutuu was suggesting they be voted off instead of desperado'd.
Rondo is currently a top-poster, and still new to forum mafia, I think. So that could mean they're likely too new to be wolfing at this point.

That is really underselling my ability to play wolf when @EnderWiggin rates it at least somewhat threateningly

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: poison ] aubergine

[Ruri]

Deepwolf options aren't much.

Scotty and Mac are conf!town.
Michelle should be self-resolving.
Tutuu was suggesting they be voted off instead of desperado'd.
Rondo is currently a top-poster, and still new to forum mafia, I think. So that could mean they're likely too new to be wolfing at this point.

There is no such thing as too new to be wolfing imo, the rand is a gift from RNG gods
I heard countless stories about randing wolf in the first game and winning because they were derp cleared or something

This post is general, adressed for the idea of too new to be wolf, and not a read for Rond.

True to an extent. I remember derping in that one game as wolf. LOL

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: poison ] aubergine

why?

[Ruri]

Deepwolf options aren't much.

Scotty and Mac are conf!town.
Michelle should be self-resolving.
Tutuu was suggesting they be voted off instead of desperado'd.
Rondo is currently a top-poster, and still new to forum mafia, I think. So that could mean they're likely too new to be wolfing at this point.

That is really underselling my ability to play wolf when @EnderWiggin rates it at least somewhat threateningly

Have you ever taken the spotlight as wolf before? It's somewhat a general read, that wolves try to avoid the spotlight. You're at 400+ posts!

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Dkkoba] aubergine

[RondoDimBuckle]

Deepwolf options aren't much.

Scotty and Mac are conf!town.
Michelle should be self-resolving.
Tutuu was suggesting they be voted off instead of desperado'd.
Rondo is currently a top-poster, and still new to forum mafia, I think. So that could mean they're likely too new to be wolfing at this point.

There is no such thing as too new to be wolfing imo, the rand is a gift from RNG gods
I heard countless stories about randing wolf in the first game and winning because they were derp cleared or something

This post is general, adressed for the idea of too new to be wolf, and not a read for Rond.

I didnt see this part and I appreciate you taking the time to write that distinction

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: poison ] aubergine

why?

Because I want to see poisons reaction, it will likely be humorous

[Michelle]

Main wagons now

DkKoba. 4. sig, Michelle, falcon45ca, Ruri

Made. 5. tutuu, Master Radishes, MacDougall, BoKnows, TonyStarkPrime

[RondoDimBuckle]

Deepwolf options aren't much.

Scotty and Mac are conf!town.
Michelle should be self-resolving.
Tutuu was suggesting they be voted off instead of desperado'd.
Rondo is currently a top-poster, and still new to forum mafia, I think. So that could mean they're likely too new to be wolfing at this point.

That is really underselling my ability to play wolf when @EnderWiggin rates it at least somewhat threateningly

Have you ever taken the spotlight as wolf before? It's somewhat a general read, that wolves try to avoid the spotlight. You're at 400+ posts!

I believe Ender spoke on this in his ISO pretty recently as last 24 hours so it should be fairly high up. I thrive under pressure and enjoy being in the spot light is a general condensing of the statements. 400+ post me could easily be wolf even if it was my first time on Forum Mafia. This time it is not and I think most people have that read though I am happy to be corrected

[Michelle]

Np Rond, it was logical but i didn't want to let it as a free speculation in the future

Where is your head at btw, Rond?

[Michelle]

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112
1
4%
Voters: DkKoba
DkKoba
4
16%
Voters: sig, Michelle, falcon45ca, Ruri
DrWilgy
1
4%
Voters: EnderWiggin
EnderWiggin
1
4%
Voters: 112
Epignosis
1
4%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
falcon45ca
1
4%
Voters: RondoDimBuckle
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Made
5
20%
Voters: tutuu, Master Radishes, MacDougall, BoKnows, TonyStarkPrime
MasterRadishes
2
8%
Voters: Scotty, Epignosis
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
Poison
0
No votes
Voters: None
RondoDimBuckle
1
4%
Voters: DrWilgy
Ruri
0
No votes
Voters: None
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
Syn/BoKnows
1
4%
Voters: Made
tedxtr (DEAD)
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
tutuu
1
4%
Voters: Urist
Urist
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Voters: None
No vote
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Voters: None
No Lynch
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Voters: None
Non (Host, mod, Spec, Dead, etc.)
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Voters: dunya, Lime Coke, sabie12, Justplayingitcool, tedxtr, Syn
Total votes: 25

[RondoDimBuckle]

Np Rond, it was logical but i didn't want to let it as a free speculation in the future

Where is your head at btw, Rond?

Mine? Honestly thinking I have [REDACTED [for too many [REDACTED] at once because I lost all wim and I am just looking for other peoples reads who I trust as town and I am going to follow them. I promised Ender I would ISO him today and I dont want to do it but I have to because I said I would so I am just taking a deep breath.

[Michelle]

Np Rond, it was logical but i didn't want to let it as a free speculation in the future

Where is your head at btw, Rond?

Mine? Honestly thinking I have [REDACTED [for too many [REDACTED] at once because I lost all wim and I am just looking for other peoples reads who I trust as town and I am going to follow them. I promised Ender I would ISO him today and I dont want to do it but I have to because I said I would so I am just taking a deep breath.

Why don't you want to give me your reads?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Np Rond, it was logical but i didn't want to let it as a free speculation in the future

Where is your head at btw, Rond?

Mine? Honestly thinking I have [REDACTED [for too many [REDACTED] at once because I lost all wim and I am just looking for other peoples reads who I trust as town and I am going to follow them. I promised Ender I would ISO him today and I dont want to do it but I have to because I said I would so I am just taking a deep breath.

Why don't you want to give me your reads?

well you didnt ask me that question

[Michelle]

For someone with so many posts you have a very good thread feeling only by reading the posts above your own when you're posting.
So i expect you to have your own reads in the day 2 of the game Rond.

[Poison]

[VOTE: poison ] aubergine

why?

Because I want to see poisons reaction, it will likely be humorous

[Michelle]

Np Rond, it was logical but i didn't want to let it as a free speculation in the future

Where is your head at btw, Rond?

Mine? Honestly thinking I have [REDACTED [for too many [REDACTED] at once because I lost all wim and I am just looking for other peoples reads who I trust as town and I am going to follow them. I promised Ender I would ISO him today and I dont want to do it but I have to because I said I would so I am just taking a deep breath.

Why don't you want to give me your reads?

well you didnt ask me that question

I thought is implied, but if you say i didn't, i will now

Please share your reads

[RondoDimBuckle]

For someone with so many posts you have a very good thread feeling only by reading the posts above your own when you're posting.
So i expect you to have your own reads in the day 2 of the game Rond.

Who is Rond?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Np Rond, it was logical but i didn't want to let it as a free speculation in the future

Where is your head at btw, Rond?

Mine? Honestly thinking I have [REDACTED [for too many [REDACTED] at once because I lost all wim and I am just looking for other peoples reads who I trust as town and I am going to follow them. I promised Ender I would ISO him today and I dont want to do it but I have to because I said I would so I am just taking a deep breath.

Why don't you want to give me your reads?

well you didnt ask me that question

I thought is implied, but if you say i didn't, i will now

Please share your reads

Ok thats fair, I was twisting what you were asking into a different question a little but I enjoy a good ribbing.

[RondoDimBuckle]

also are you going to be around for a bit Michelle? Id rather finish reading Enders ISO before I reply fully to your desire for my reads

[Ruri]

I'm guessing EOD is in few hours from now?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm guessing EOD is in few hours from now?

12

[Michelle]

also are you going to be around for a bit Michelle? Id rather finish reading Enders ISO before I reply fully to your desire for my reads

Is 11 am for me, i am here until Eod with RL moments of inactivity

So tyt

[Poison]

Okay So I couldn't complete tutuu's ISO, but here's how I ffelt about it:

She started out usually how i think T!tutuu would have. She reasoned her reads, poked questions and had her usual tone. as she progressed her tone wobbled a lot, she gave reads but often left out things, i still don't like how she had formed her scum list as i mentioned before but i get this vibe i was just wrong about her playstyle and thought it was strictly AI, but after talking to her and reading some of her posts, and her interaction with a the townies before their flips/confirmation seems genuine than performative imo. Although I am not liking her D2 as much as i did her D1, i think I can still pull her out of scummy to towny lean.

I read Michelle's progression on tutuu and that made me feel good about this slot as well.

[Poison]

I'm busier than i thought i'll be around

[Poison]

in 3 hous*

[RondoDimBuckle]

Standard Ender entrance nothing standout

Scott
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 70#p845070
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 91#p845091 - not a good look

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 09#p845109 - first interaction with me, expected

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 32#p845132 - defense of made (if made flips wolf investigate)

NAA
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 60#p845564
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 92#p845892 - also a second calling of urist town here (see below of trying to slide urist as town if he is wolf)
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 38#p845138 - wrong again, not a good look

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 56#p845156 - if scum!ender, possibly trying to slip a town read on a wolf unless you fully believe urist is mech claimed town.


https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 88#p845388 - pushing 112 as scum

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 60#p845560 - not specifically saying which town reads he has on those three could be lazy ender or could be wolf ender hedging for later, going of context I would say more talking about Made, Urist and Myself or Syn, calling scotty and made scum here.

Nanook:
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 66#p845566 - not sure where town stands on nanook

Tutuu:
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 51#p846251 - calling her scum and then 2 posts later changing his mind

Hahaha I forgot how scummy I was playing Day 1

MR
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 38#p846738 - Happy to kill with no read just sheep on Mac, could be convenient wolf looking for town chop

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 93#p846793 - Calling MR Syn scum and wiggly NAI

Quick catchup with what I have so far off ender D1: Scotty Scum[Mech wrong], Axe scum [Mech wrong, 112 scum, Syn scum, Made Scum(Might be wrong on this), Tutuu scum, MR scum. - That is a lot of scum for ender even day 1.

However he is reading like regular town Ender when interacting with me, that could be in an effort to keep me off his case and mollifying my tinfoil till they just night kill me later.

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 90#p846890 - this reads kinda like someone who knows that Axe is someone who will flip town but doesnt want to be seen as changing his read so he will just agree with town that axe is town for now.

Mac votes
then TSP
then Michelle
then Ender (? he says vote sheeped but didn't use vote tags, he voted according to the tally though)
then KZA
then Rondo

Only one of the group who didnt call switch in tags, Michelle [Alignment will flip soon, town for now], Myself , KZA [We know town], TSP [Unknown for me], Ender [Unknown for now]

If there has to be a wolf that followed mac sheepishly it has to be either Myself, Ender, TSP.

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 56#p848356 - could be seen as TMI, however it is charitable to say its obviously a play in Mafia to protect the inno after outing themselves.

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 55#p848455
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 58#p848358 - if Epi is a wolf killer, investigate this after Ender or Epi flips.

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 77#p848377 - first post that I see Ender giving legit good criticism and is super towny.

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 12#p848412 - moving sig into POE

So far I have not seen a lot of calling people town other than people that are being called town by other people already. No going out on a limb to protect a slot that people want to chop, very safe play.

Michelle
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 23#p848423 - not a good look. soft pushing Michelle [Will flip later probably town] and Koba [mech cleared town?] - additionally a lot of clearing of nanook total

Adding Poison[Did someone mech clear her town?], Falcon and Radish to the POE, Koba [see above] Michelle [see above] ==|| Scotty Scum[Mech wrong], Axe scum [Mech wrong, 112 scum, Syn scum, Made Scum(Might be wrong on this), Tutuu scum, MR scum. ||== Sig [see below]

adding Sig to enders poe because Tutuu and ender have a fight over it so I must have missed where he said sig was scum

Enders Final Released POE list
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 58#p848458

Changes:
Poison - NAI
Made - NAI
Falcon - NAI
Koba - Leaning town
Michelle - removed [poisoned]
Axe - removed
Tutuu - Leaning town
DrWiggly - Added
Ruri - Added

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 01#p849201 - hedgy reason why his reads could be wrong

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 39#p849239 - New POE
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 84#p849284 > third one after that one basically no change > notes below
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 36#p849336 + fourth one after that + notes below

Poison[Did someone mech clear her town?], Falcon and Radish to the POE, Koba [see above] Michelle [see above] ==|| Scotty Scum[Mech wrong], Axe scum [Mech wrong, 112 scum, Syn scum, Made Scum(Might be wrong on this), Tutuu scum, MR scum. ||== Sig [see below] ||++ DrWiggly - Added, Ruri - Added ++

Changes:
-Koba[Mech confirmed town?] - Added back to scum > same + same
Poison - basically states nothing > same + same
Falcon - basically states nothing > same + same
Made - apparently was town read but feeling worse > same + same
Michelle - still taken no stance on > same + same
Tutuu - downgraded to leaning scum > changes later to town again + same
+ Ruri - town

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 33#p849333 - Moves Ruri out of scum

Final verdict, I have done my best to read him as scum and as best as I can come up with he is NAI. He isnt on his top game but maybe he is just having a rough time getting to the game because of the mass of people. In the end, barring concrete evidence with his what? 73%-+5 chance of being town I have to trust that he is town for now since he is at least trying to solve. I would like to see more interactions though


@EnderWiggin @Michelle

[RondoDimBuckle]

oh I used the dead] opener on Axe with no closer lol I forgot about http interactions

[RondoDimBuckle]

Basically it has a flow and even though that isnt outside of Enders Scum range, as with Alison earlier Ender cant be scum all the time

[RondoDimBuckle]

now for my own reads

[tutuu]

I've been considering this for a while and didn't think it would be necessary, bit I'm realizing that we're going to be in lylo sooner rather than later so I should get my role confirmed asap.

I am going to claim now. Last night, I targeted tutuu. I have an ability that seems anti-town at first but I think you'll come to understand how pro-town this claim is at EoD.

Anyway, my action is that every night I must target another player. The following day, that player will require two extra votes to eliminate. Unfortunately, I misread this at first and thought it would cause the person to require two fewer votes, instead of two more. That's why I targeted tutuu. Silly me!

But this isn't a terrible thing. I think we can confirm my role now. All we have to do is make sure that tutuu has exactly one more vote than the runner-up at EoD. Should be easy. Then the runner-up will be eliminated and tutuu will survive and my role will be proven.

There's nothing to lose so I say we get crackin'! How 'bout y'all?

Fuck off lmaooo mans trynna be slick and switch his vote to me at the last second and get me chopped

[tutuu]

My reads are unchanged. I am likely tunneling these reads until the game ends

Lower poe: Koba Made Nook Ender

Upper poe: radish, falcon, 112

[tutuu]

[VOTE: koba] aubergine

[EnderWiggin]

It's not impossible for wolf Rondo to do that.

But I see no point for him to put the effort into finding me town.

[EnderWiggin]

I'm just putting Rondo in my town section

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm just putting Rondo in my town section

could I get a position on Michelle before they flip?

[EnderWiggin]

I'm just putting Rondo in my town section

could I get a position on Michelle before they flip?

Why? I am already behind solving the game and wasting time on a slot that will self-resolve is wasted energy.

[Poison]

rondo give me your energy. i need it

[Poison]

It's not impossible for wolf Rondo to do that.

But I see no point for him to put the effort into finding me town.

i don't know rondo but I agree

[Ruri]

Looks like we doing this. Let's get it.

And I'll have to take a nap. Sleep~

[EnderWiggin]

I'm gonna put aside some time to ISO the DKKoba/Made situation and see where my vote should go there

[EnderWiggin]

Currently vanity wagoning like a boss lmao.

[RondoDimBuckle]

rondo give me your energy. i need it

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm just putting Rondo in my town section

could I get a position on Michelle before they flip?

Why? I am already behind solving the game and wasting time on a slot that will self-resolve is wasted energy.

Look I get it, but then I can catch you out for when you say they are town and they are scum.

[Michelle]

@RondoDimBuckle why is Dkkoba town for you?

Can you please repost your post fixing that red colour, i can't read red on black background

[RondoDimBuckle]

@RondoDimBuckle why is Dkkoba town for you?

Can you please repost your post fixing that red colour, i can't read red on black background

nope, I deleted my notes already and I cant be fucked.

Koba has apparently mech called town?

[RondoDimBuckle]

+ = Hedgy

1. Creature Dyachei - Town - Dead
2. Michelle - Shrodingers Town - It will be defined later today, however in thread good presense and solvy questions
3. NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Town - Gimmick was too eye catching to be wolf and has been doing his best to solve the game with a progression from his pov
4. NotAnAxehole - Town - Dead
5. sig - Scum+ - Hasnt interacted with me, the top poster, since early on the 27th, spent a lot of time trying to discredit mac when he could be solving the game, no huge questions asked of anyone just pokes.
6. tutuu - Town+ - game style feels similar to other games I have played with them that feel town, lots of focus drawn could be open wolfing but I am leaning town for now
7. MacDougall - Town - Duh
8. falcon45ca - NAI - no posts to read, we chop this eventually
9. Urist - Scum - Plenty of posts just calling me straight up scum, I have been playing as low hanging fruit to see who would grab me for lynch, trying his best to get me out of the game from perspective slips to calling me an alt, lots (little) of talking no actual solving (By that I mean not a single decent pointed question of someone elses perspective just their own). The weird power call could just be because he wants to get one more before we lynch him. Also, classic "wolfy post" which means and does nothing.
10. RondoDimBuckle - Town - You gotta believe me man, I am totally town, I wouldnt lie to you, We had good times? Didnt you say you would kill me last?
11. EnderWiggin - Town+ - See above
12. Master Radishes - Scum+ - Im willing to move on this one I just dont see a lot of use keeping this slot alive, calls other people out for busy work posts but I havent seen anything massive from him. Again no questions of other people that really bugs me
13. Epignosis Town+ - Unless we think he mafia day vigged Axe, town
14. DkKoba - Town? - I just want to chop this slot for personal reasons but if people think the mech claim is likely town we should keep it. I have no actual read on this slot if the mech claim falls through because I will not be dealing with this slot till day 3 as I stated previously
15. Made - NAI - Like tutuu game style feels similar to other games, no read either way and like tutuu I wont bother and let other people make a read. GTH, I think town but there is no questions to other people, but at least some solvy posts. flipflopflipflop
16. Syn/BoKnows - Scum+ - https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 18#p848718 2* confirmed town and one likely town in their call out I am not sure what to do with Bo because no ISO and I cant be bothered looking for it
17. 112 - NAI - Nothing really to read, lots of shitting on other people. GTH town? He took two of my joke votes at pushing ender as serious and called me scum for both. But hey I am not gonna shield
18. Poison - NAI/Town - I am biased here. I think Poison is town but that is just because we are getting along well. But there has been a lot of solvy questions in thread and generally a calm attitude of looking for win.
19. Ruri -Town++ - Of all my town+ reads this is my closest to NAI read, however really great questions for me, generally keeping track of my secret switching of votes. Not a fan of their POE and everything they are doing I think could be in their scum range.
20. tedxtr - Town - Dead
21. DrWilgy - Scum+ - we started off well together but keeps straight up calling me scum, he could just be a town that has bad reads but early game seemed a bit eager to chop me.
22. Scotty - Town - Duh
23. KZA - Town - Dead
24. TonyStarkPrime - Scum+ - we are almost end of day 2, still less than 50 posts no impact on the game, no point keeping him around if he wont try to solve.