The Witcher Mafia [Game Over]

[EnderWiggin]

[VOTE: boknows] aubergine

also if yall remember scotty outed that MR visited me n1

scotty also claimed MR visited me with an investigative action n1, and MR confirmed

first of all i think MR was saying the truth or close to the truth bout his role

second of all yall should consider that it looks towny for me. coz if MR is mafia who boosted me n1 or some shit, and he is accused of visiting me with an investigative action by a confirmed townie, do yall think he says "yes i used investigative" if it was a lie?

Yes he would say he used an investigative bc he would know that scotty is full of crap and that it would "clear" you.
I don't believe at all that mr's claim has any significance on your alignment.

"Yes he would say he used an investigative bc he would know that scotty is full of crap"

No you're just tunneled as fuck or mafia. If MR saw that he was accused of something he didn't do he risks getting outed for lying ITT by scotty simply retracting / admitting he was lying. How does that falsely clear me then? By scotty saying a lie ITT and not retracting it? Your argument is based off of the assumption that Scotty would FPS and not retract...

MR didn't know that Scotty is lying if I'm town.

If MR wasn't investigative he would've known Scotty was lying instantly.

Also Urist is probably town.

[EnderWiggin]

honestly i'll be night killed tonight by mafia coz of all the protectives we have and if ender doesnt die immediately, lol

I almost certainly die EOD tomorrow unless I got this poison stuff wrong.

[EnderWiggin]

Unless she's exactly with scotty tutu is just town

And uh that's obviously not a world so

Tutu is town

i already knew tutuu was town a long time ago

Is it because you are scum?

[EnderWiggin]

I'll let someone else do the math but I seriously doubt there were zero mafia on the MR wagon. My money is on tutuu bussing.
Tutuu immediately voting the counterwagon to mafia is terrible lol
If we want to continue to ignore obvious mafia tutuu then we should just kill wilgy or ruri, of the bo voters i think they look the worst.

I agree on the "Possible bussing"

I disagree on who.

[EnderWiggin]

Okay, lemme do spew reads.

[tutuu]

@DrWilgy whats ur peek

[EnderWiggin]

Did Tutuu just out herself as the SK

Tutu probably town.

I know I already had this read but I think this confirms.

[Urist]

I'll let someone else do the math but I seriously doubt there were zero mafia on the MR wagon. My money is on tutuu bussing.
Tutuu immediately voting the counterwagon to mafia is terrible lol
If we want to continue to ignore obvious mafia tutuu then we should just kill wilgy or ruri, of the bo voters i think they look the worst.

I agree on the "Possible bussing"

I disagree on who.

Not many people voted for mr. If there was a bus it was one of tutuu, epi or nanook.
And if bo is scum then there was almost certainly a busser or two on mr.
That's why i think tutuu's vote on bo is not great fwiw

[EnderWiggin]

Lock V:
MacDougall

Those I know, and probably can read:
Michelle
tedxtr
EnderWiggin

Played with before, don't remember:
Syn
112
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Should be on my radar:
tutuu

The rest:
Creature
NotAnAxehole
sig
falcon45ca
Urist
RondoDimBuckle
Master Radishes
Epignosis
DkKoba
Made
Poison
DrWilgy
Scotty
KZA
TonyStarkPrime

- signed, Ruri

There really are no reads here. I think u might be mafia

I hate agreeing with you because it makes it look like we have equity but It does look like a bunch of nothing with a lot of what town already says? I see syn sneaking up on the list though

Why do you always say scummy things and why am I still not sure you're scum?

LOTS of pockety posts like this towards Rondo.

I think Rondo spewed town maybe

[EnderWiggin]

I don't really have an issue with Ruri's list? Like it's so blatantly not a readslist that I I don't think it was meant to be one.

This I do sorta get though.

Why's people voting Ender, actually?

I think this is a common post a wolf makes when they see a villager getting voted by other villagers @MacDougall (obviously town can also make it but yaknow)

Ruri might be a partner.

[EnderWiggin]

Took a quick glance at Ruri's iso.

Pretty null tbh. I liked her entrance and general early post. She seemed comfortable. IMO scum tend to prefer to backread or at least delve in to something to look contributive and Ruri essentially just walked in and sat down and waved hello and hasn't left her seat to even get a drink or anything yet. At no point do I really sense her feeling forced or out of place in the thread.

Flipside of that is she hasn't...really done much. I mean, the same can be said of quite a few of us in this game so far tbh. But yeah, a few halfhearted opinions thrown out with little to back them up. On a macro level she's done nothing that really deserves a firm townread. There are maybe a couple posts one could nitpick ala as Tutuu has done.


I was nursing a slight townlean on Ruri from earlier, but maybe that was premature. I don't really see anything better or worse than anyone else though. GTH I still call her town.

LMAO.

Ruri scum confidence growing.

[EnderWiggin]

radishes maf still

No my rolecard changed I'm town now.

Urist might just be town too?

[EnderWiggin]

Agree with others that Rondo is likely town. KZA is town unless his meta has changed a lot. Ted I get a good feeling about too in the sense he feels notably different from GoC in a pro-town way.

I don't think there's anyone else I have a particularly strong opinion on. Don't feel like GTHing it.

Rule of 3 says Rondo scum here but I don't believe it.

[EnderWiggin]

That's fine we can ignore me.

I mean you admitted to not reading the game

It was a cry for help.

Do I need to look up a support line for you?

No I just need someone to talk with me about something so I can start getting in sync with current events.

Yeah this just doesn't feel like w/w

[EnderWiggin]

Just got home from a party.

Who am I voting for?

This is wolf

It is not. I've missed 600 posts and didn't know Dya was in the game.

ALSO

This fucking spews me clear.

I'm dead from poison anyway, but still if anyone actually doubted my alignment at this point.

[Urist]

MR: *pops into the thread 30 mins before dying just to make a wolfy claim that spews tutuu town*
The town: welp guess tutuu is spewed town now!

[EnderWiggin]

Michelle t

We lost at rand, killing roles are making terrible choices

"Grr you other townies are making such bad choices, it's all your fault."

*proceeds to do nothing to help except*

What a winning approach.

Yeah Urist is just town.

[EnderWiggin]

MR: *pops into the thread 30 mins before dying just to make a wolfy claim that spews tutuu town*
The town: welp guess tutuu is spewed town now!

He tried to poke the "Tutu SK" idea on D1.

It's much more than last 30m.

[EnderWiggin]

well anyway:

i think michelle is mafia and the poisoner is town-aligned so good job poisoner

let me write up the thing i was finna write

i also thing syn is town and there was nothing but town on town violence day 1, will also write up on that

I thought I was gonna be all edgy coming in here saying Michelle maf and Syn town and tutuu snipes me.


(Not sure on Michelle being mafia anymore though if she's poisoned.)

im happy with that. i still think youre mafia, but i am happy to have people's reads aligned with mine, even if my scumreads

is okay I dunno about you either

Hmm

[EnderWiggin]

i think that @Syn is town due to his lack of self-pres. i have played with both town and mafia syn. if he tryhards its a towntell for him. he can be low energy as either alignment. the thing is, he acknowledged that he is on the chopping block. he saw that he is a top wagon and said "maybe i should go read back". he was online 30 minds before eoD iirc (as in he posted itt). i believe that it is more likely that if he is mafia, he will put the extra effort for his team to leave a self-pres vote. thats how most people feel like, since if they are part of a mafia team on discord it feels more intimate. if you are town you dont know your teammates, you might as well be playing solo.

so i think that syn's complete lack of interest (also the "i just voted for the name closest to mine" stuff are too absurd to come from scum. i think he is town

Agree with this. Also just...I feel like I'm reading my own iso when I read his. Like he hinted he has things irl (deadlines or whatever) and so he's mostly just being sassy, and I just see myself when I'm in the same position. I always get scumread for it too. He doesn't give af in that situation and neither do I.

And like...there are a whole lotta ??s on the Syn wagon fmpov. And that was the wagon that didn’t move much at EoD. Like it was the people who popped off a vote earlier then didn’t stop by for EoD. Unless I am *vastly* wrong on my townreads (most of whom ended up on Dya) then there are scum, and I would think more than one, on Syn.

Whether this in particular makes Syn the bussed wolf or a mischop bait the wolves thought they had nailed down…could go either way actually. But I’m entertaining the latter idea. There’s a whole lot of people who I want to say are town who swapped last minute to Dya, which suggests town were struggling to decide (natural for a large game D1) and scum were content to sit where they were. I haven’t checked everyone on that wagon but I do feel like I didn’t see most of the Syn-voters around at EoD.

So I also want to read Syn as town based on VCA. Which is a stupid and often wrong way to form opinions but I'm doing it anyway.

Maybe Syn/Bo partner.

[EnderWiggin]

Gun to head, scum was trying to dodge the doc save. Regardless

@MacDougall we are contacting you concerning your car's extended warranty

This just feels so bleh. Like he knows he can't actually frame Mac but is hoping it will sow a seed of doubt anyway. Trying to have it both ways.

Made is spewed town so hard.

I already thought that too but god is this straightforwards.

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy whats ur peek

Checked Ruri. Failed. With my claim already out there, I expect to be perpetually messed with as long as I'm w/o protection.

[EnderWiggin]

Not fully sure how to feel tbh...reasons to like but also not fully convinced?
Dkkoba
Poison
DrWilgy

No idea, just...need to see more
Falcon
112

Not a fan
Urist
Ender

This is just a hit
Made



I feel like I have decently strong reasons to townread everyone else.

This is actually a solid rule-of-3 setup.

Made/Ender/Urist town.

Falcon/112/Poison/DrWilgy > AT LEAST ONE SCUM.

[EnderWiggin]

Also hi Bo! CDC crew needed a 4th.

Hey MR. You got any reads I can steal? Don't feel like sifting through 80 pages.

Just posted my extended PoE. Feel free to steal.

Don't bother with backreading. It's a lot of unnecessary fluff tbh. The good bits are scattered.

Hmmm.

Maybe Bo is town.

[tutuu]

@DrWilgy whats ur peek

Checked Ruri. Failed. With my claim already out there, I expect to be perpetually messed with as long as I'm w/o protection.

i dont believe mafia has 2 roleblocks

@EnderWiggin could ur action have failed as a result of ur own role?

if not, [VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

[EnderWiggin]

Voters: MacDougall, KZA, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Michelle, Epignosis, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
Michelle

For my own reference.

I'll pass on Michelle.

That leaves me with Nanook, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Rondo, and Ender.

Nanook is all grunts. Whatever.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Just got home from a party.

Who am I voting for?

This is wolf

It is not. I've missed 600 posts and didn't know Dya was in the game.

This second post was two minutes before the deadline.

The move from Scotty (who is a civilian, correct?) to Dya at the eleventh hour without any context or care looks like shit.

Perhaps this has been talked about and I haven't read it, but Master Radishes came in, voted Dya without knowing Dya was in the game. That's how it reads to me right now.

I arrived home right before the deadline. I was hundreds of posts behind, Syn and Dya were the wagon options, and the one I was on was dead. I noticed Dya was now in the game but didn't have time to figure out why they had a wagon; all I saw was that it was the one with the most last minute momentum and a lot of people I townread were on it. I didn't have time to parse the nuances of it, so I just sheeped Mac, KZA, and Rondo.

Epi is flat town too lmao.

I will take no dissent on this for now.

[EnderWiggin]

@DrWilgy whats ur peek

Checked Ruri. Failed. With my claim already out there, I expect to be perpetually messed with as long as I'm w/o protection.

i dont believe mafia has 2 roleblocks

@EnderWiggin could ur action have failed as a result of ur own role?

if not, [VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

Hmmm. Maybe.

I'm not entirely sure.

[Urist]

MR: *pops into the thread 30 mins before dying just to make a wolfy claim that spews tutuu town*
The town: welp guess tutuu is spewed town now!

He tried to poke the "Tutu SK" idea on D1.

It's much more than last 30m.

My point is that I struggle to see an intent behind MR's claim that isn't "spew tutuu town".

[EnderWiggin]

@falcon45ca who do you think is mafia?

Fucked if I know.


I'm fine with lynching DK, MR, Ender right now

Mmmmm sorry, the time for opportunistically shading me has passed.

Falcon probably town too.

[tutuu]

there should be at least 4 more mafia, maybe 5 more. so plenty of ppl to hit

112, boknows, wilgy, epi, falcon, poison, rondo, ruri (everyone else should be town unless someting terribly wrong happened)

scotty is out there to get poison but michelle and alison townead poison, imma trust them. same for ruri

alison townread falcon but i think the dude is scum. he hasnt done a thing

epi idk keep waffling. if he's wolf he's probably the deepest

112, boknows, wilgy, facon - to me this feels like the simplest anwswer. if any of those wrong, epi

[EnderWiggin]

MR: *pops into the thread 30 mins before dying just to make a wolfy claim that spews tutuu town*
The town: welp guess tutuu is spewed town now!

He tried to poke the "Tutu SK" idea on D1.

It's much more than last 30m.

My point is that I struggle to see an intent behind MR's claim that isn't "spew tutuu town".

Scotty had an ability that told him MR had visited Tutu N1.

MR had no control over town getting that info.

[EnderWiggin]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

I think this is flat out a hit.

[tutuu]

112, falcon and master radish all being mafia also fits with KZA dying n1. the only person from their community who isnt same alignment as them. would be a funny thing to do to troll KZA

[EnderWiggin]

if anyone like me was wondering who hasn't voted yet - it's Poison.

I will give this an /interesting/

Wolfy Interesting = Urist locktown.

[tutuu]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

[tutuu]

i guess we can let wilgy live 1 more day, this time final

he will have no excuse to not produce a peek

i dont think mafia has 2 roleblockers, i dont think mafia roleblocker can consecutively target

he needs to put a peek on the table or die

that said i still think he's mafia and probably the poisoner (if he is mafia) due to the claim to try to survive

[EnderWiggin]

i guess we can let wilgy live 1 more day, this time final

he will have no excuse to not produce a peek

i dont think mafia has 2 roleblockers, i dont think mafia roleblocker can consecutively target

he needs to put a peek on the table or die

that said i still think he's mafia and probably the poisoner (if he is mafia) due to the claim to try to survive

If 112 is scum then 99% chance Wilgy scum too.

112 didn't claim initially but when it seemed like my claim HARD implicated Wilgy she claimed a vague something that might detract from my read.

[tutuu]

bet

[EnderWiggin]

I'll be back later with 112 ISO + EOD reads.

Gonna play vidja games now.

[EnderWiggin]

Like if 112 flips red here, I want town to promise to turbo DrWilgy tomorrow.

I do not feel scum comes in to detract from my mech on Wilgy if it was t/t

[RondoDimBuckle]

boknows > 112 > epi > falcon is my poe

i think rondo is the 3p djinn

wilgy could also be mafia, let's see his peek

No I am a witcher, I had a shuffle ability and a role block. I used shuffle on poison night one because I was sus of her but she got blocked and nothing happened. Last night I blocked Ruri but my action failed because I think someone blocked me.

[RondoDimBuckle]

if epi is mafia i think mafia has too much KP

odd-night poisoner + a day vig that can instantly shoot the revealed IC

just feels a bit too much. but i dunno, it is a 24 player game. hmmm

nah nvm, take that back. i can see epi being mafia

Epi probably isn't mafia tbh tbh.

I want to know why he is still alive after 3 nights when he has shown he can vig people, he might have a second shot and they havent killed him yet. He's 'confirmed town' from mafia pov, killing a vig and a confirmed town is a win. I dont know maybe its just tinfoil

[RondoDimBuckle]

Lock V:
MacDougall

Those I know, and probably can read:
Michelle
tedxtr
EnderWiggin

Played with before, don't remember:
Syn
112
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Should be on my radar:
tutuu

The rest:
Creature
NotAnAxehole
sig
falcon45ca
Urist
RondoDimBuckle
Master Radishes
Epignosis
DkKoba
Made
Poison
DrWilgy
Scotty
KZA
TonyStarkPrime

- signed, Ruri

There really are no reads here. I think u might be mafia

I hate agreeing with you because it makes it look like we have equity but It does look like a bunch of nothing with a lot of what town already says? I see syn sneaking up on the list though

Why do you always say scummy things and why am I still not sure you're scum?

LOTS of pockety posts like this towards Rondo.

I think Rondo spewed town maybe

I would hope so, now we are back to where mac had me day 1

[RondoDimBuckle]

Took a quick glance at Ruri's iso.

Pretty null tbh. I liked her entrance and general early post. She seemed comfortable. IMO scum tend to prefer to backread or at least delve in to something to look contributive and Ruri essentially just walked in and sat down and waved hello and hasn't left her seat to even get a drink or anything yet. At no point do I really sense her feeling forced or out of place in the thread.

Flipside of that is she hasn't...really done much. I mean, the same can be said of quite a few of us in this game so far tbh. But yeah, a few halfhearted opinions thrown out with little to back them up. On a macro level she's done nothing that really deserves a firm townread. There are maybe a couple posts one could nitpick ala as Tutuu has done.


I was nursing a slight townlean on Ruri from earlier, but maybe that was premature. I don't really see anything better or worse than anyone else though. GTH I still call her town.

LMAO.

Ruri scum confidence growing.

glad I attempted block on them then

[RondoDimBuckle]

@DrWilgy whats ur peek

Checked Ruri. Failed. With my claim already out there, I expect to be perpetually messed with as long as I'm w/o protection.

I imagine Ruri had some sort of protection up which is why we both failed

[RondoDimBuckle]

Not fully sure how to feel tbh...reasons to like but also not fully convinced?
Dkkoba
Poison
DrWilgy

No idea, just...need to see more
Falcon
112

Not a fan
Urist
Ender

This is just a hit
Made



I feel like I have decently strong reasons to townread everyone else.

This is actually a solid rule-of-3 setup.

Made/Ender/Urist town.

Falcon/112/Poison/DrWilgy > AT LEAST ONE SCUM.

what about the ones not mentioned?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Voters: MacDougall, KZA, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Michelle, Epignosis, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
Michelle

For my own reference.

I'll pass on Michelle.

That leaves me with Nanook, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Rondo, and Ender.

Nanook is all grunts. Whatever.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Just got home from a party.

Who am I voting for?

This is wolf

It is not. I've missed 600 posts and didn't know Dya was in the game.

This second post was two minutes before the deadline.

The move from Scotty (who is a civilian, correct?) to Dya at the eleventh hour without any context or care looks like shit.

Perhaps this has been talked about and I haven't read it, but Master Radishes came in, voted Dya without knowing Dya was in the game. That's how it reads to me right now.

I arrived home right before the deadline. I was hundreds of posts behind, Syn and Dya were the wagon options, and the one I was on was dead. I noticed Dya was now in the game but didn't have time to figure out why they had a wagon; all I saw was that it was the one with the most last minute momentum and a lot of people I townread were on it. I didn't have time to parse the nuances of it, so I just sheeped Mac, KZA, and Rondo.

Epi is flat town too lmao.

I will take no dissent on this for now.

lol just saw this after my Epi post

[Epignosis]

if epi is mafia i think mafia has too much KP

odd-night poisoner + a day vig that can instantly shoot the revealed IC

just feels a bit too much. but i dunno, it is a 24 player game. hmmm

nah nvm, take that back. i can see epi being mafia

Epi probably isn't mafia tbh tbh.

I want to know why he is still alive after 3 nights when he has shown he can vig people, he might have a second shot and they havent killed him yet. He's 'confirmed town' from mafia pov, killing a vig and a confirmed town is a win. I dont know maybe its just tinfoil

It took them three Nights to get a known civilian into the ground. Maybe that has something to do with it.

[RondoDimBuckle]

there should be at least 4 more mafia, maybe 5 more. so plenty of ppl to hit

112, boknows, wilgy, epi, falcon, poison, rondo, ruri (everyone else should be town unless someting terribly wrong happened)

scotty is out there to get poison but michelle and alison townead poison, imma trust them. same for ruri

alison townread falcon but i think the dude is scum. he hasnt done a thing

epi idk keep waffling. if he's wolf he's probably the deepest

112, boknows, wilgy, facon - to me this feels like the simplest anwswer. if any of those wrong, epi

if Ruri or Tutuu flips red revisit this post for a possible Ruri sneak out of POE. or Poison?

[112]

Unless she's exactly with scotty tutu is just town

And uh that's obviously not a world so

Tutu is town

i already knew tutuu was town a long time ago

Is it because you are scum?

I refuse to answer out of principle.