Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

im frozen

[MacDougall]

This post looks town to me for reasons I don’t want to get into. The EM gang or others should say if they feel this is not a post to be town read.

leetic/ilario are probably my top town read.

lol Jay wolfing

[iaafr]

Lol, marmot is town

Now I’m running into the opposite problem I had early game.

yea ive been here for awhile, welcome

[Marmot]

Lol, marmot is town

Now I’m running into the opposite problem I had early game.

What was the opposite problem you had early game?

[Lime Coke]

This post looks town to me for reasons I don’t want to get into. The EM gang or others should say if they feel this is not a post to be town read.

leetic/ilario are probably my top town read.

You've probably seen my response to it but I'm townreading it.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

This post looks town to me for reasons I don’t want to get into. The EM gang or others should say if they feel this is not a post to be town read.

leetic/ilario are probably my top town read.

lol Jay wolfing

Are you enjoying yourself Mac?

[nutella]

This post looks town to me for reasons I don’t want to get into. The EM gang or others should say if they feel this is not a post to be town read.

leetic/ilario are probably my top town read.

lol Jay wolfing

[VOTE: macdougall] aubergine


I actually think the idea that jay is off has been overblown and he's been largely fine so far and has given thoughts that appear real enough. Mac has done...not that.

[ilario]

Fwiw I see the points people brought up about JJJ but I can also understand why he would be taking a more hands-off approach this particular game. I think he’s overall null for me.

Okay that’s actually my last post for a while until there’s more content

[Marmot]

Is it weird that I TR leetic and SR ilario :/

[nutella]

I really don't think Jay's approach has been all that different from many of his town d1s in the last year.

[Lime Coke]

Is it weird that I TR leetic and SR ilario :/

Give it time, he's a weird read for people playing with him for the first time.

[nutella]

I guess I think nook and jay are v/v now lmao

[iaafr]

Is it weird that I TR leetic and SR ilario :/

i actually tend more towards the opposite but i've played more with illario and leetic kind of seems to be this archetype of player who i naturally don't mesh well with (the way he sort of pressure votes people to do more, the overall stiff and highly logical tone)

still seems like a town slot though idk

[Lime Coke]

Casslexa can probably do a better job of explaining what he does whenever she has the time but yeah it's not what people are used to normally.

[Marmot]

Fwiw I see the points people brought up about JJJ but I can also understand why he would be taking a more hands-off approach this particular game. I think he’s overall null for me.

Okay that’s actually my last post for a while until there’s more content

I don't quite agree. I've seen JJJ poor forth massive efforts in games where it wasn't required because of the player list (see Bread Mafia or even Fargo), and I've also seen him warn beforehand that he won't poor effort into the game, only to do so anyway.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Nanook gonna do what Nannook do, and I am inclined to let him do it for a while before passing major judgment. I’ve theories for later.

[Lime Coke]

By the way since I'm townreading SPF, she has a good track of reading Nanook well so I'm fine with sheeping her townread there.

[iaafr]

im boutta vape some weed and scumread everybody i was already townreading for good reasons, for bad reasons

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Fwiw I see the points people brought up about JJJ but I can also understand why he would be taking a more hands-off approach this particular game. I think he’s overall null for me.

Okay that’s actually my last post for a while until there’s more content

I don't quite agree. I've seen JJJ poor forth massive efforts in games where it wasn't required because of the player list (see Bread Mafia or even Fargo), and I've also seen him warn beforehand that he won't poor effort into the game, only to do so anyway.

If/when I start doing that again please tell me to stfu because 1) post cap and 2) I really just need to not

[Marmot]

Fwiw I see the points people brought up about JJJ but I can also understand why he would be taking a more hands-off approach this particular game. I think he’s overall null for me.

Okay that’s actually my last post for a while until there’s more content

I don't quite agree. I've seen JJJ poor forth massive efforts in games where it wasn't required because of the player list (see Bread Mafia or even Fargo), and I've also seen him warn beforehand that he won't poor effort into the game, only to do so anyway.

If/when I start doing that again please tell me to stfu because 1) post cap and 2) I really just need to not

Will do.

Oh, and there was the PerC Crossover game.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What I really like about this game thread right now is its pace. We’re chugging along at a good, productive rate without blowing it up completely. This kind of pace, if maintained, would be perfect to put up 100 posts at consistent rates instead of just 1-2 hyperbolic bursts. We’ll do our best.

[iaafr]

nook/cassandra/marmot/jjj are the scumteam and there is a pinned message in wolfchat saying to call jjj weird and bus him

[iaafr]

in fact the wolf chat itself might be named "call jay weird and bus him"

[iaafr]

i have solved the game, hope to see you all in philo mafia 3

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I laughed

Out loud

[Marmot]

Just so we're clear what's happening here i already gave my three and a half reads and now I'm going to shit post until I cap myself and come back 10-15 minutes before eod to naked vote and be sheeped and we may or may not hit mafia but it'll be worth it for the experience and the memories

Ok sure, Nanook is town.

im also not having fun in this thread although it may seem like it, i think the vibe is uncomfortable to be fully honest. i feel compelled to post though because early day 1 is the easiest time to for me

Is it because you haven't received any townreads? Also, feel free to strive for a comfortable threadstate.

if you truly believe im wolf then vote me

That is how the game of mafia usually works (although some of us are trolls).

Is there a reason you spent so many posts saying that you think you are town and surprised other people can't see it?

i feel like all of annes posts this page are towny, she might bump up as my top tr.

All of them? No. But yes, there are a couple at least.


nutella looks comfy and refreshed, she can be town

ok i think ive given a preliminary opinion on everyone thats posted on d1

AMA

Since that word is being thrown around a lot this game, this is performative.

That's...yeah I'm willing to vote that.

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

Honestly if I don't come up with a good scumread I'm probably lobbying to yeet him no matter what.

You can't kill a 2-shot cop

Number one, roles are not necessarily tied to alignments here, number two, if you are town you just painted a massive target on your back, and number three, you picked a really inorganic time to claim

Like seriously, I'm not sure why you felt the need to do that

Wooosh (it's a joke)

The self voting doesn't make me like you either

I need to exaggerate the strength of my RVS wagon.

RVS? People are actually making reads now. Either you're not paying attention or you're not taking this seriously, and either way I don't like it.

I like NAA and dislike leetic in this interaction. NAA is having a joking around, while leetic continues to try to force a conversation with him, but I'm perceiving efforts to shade NAA for his antics than to actually engage him with a curious mind.

[ilario]

Lol, marmot is town

Now I’m running into the opposite problem I had early game.

What was the opposite problem you had early game?

I couldn’t find anyone to tr

Fwiw I see the points people brought up about JJJ but I can also understand why he would be taking a more hands-off approach this particular game. I think he’s overall null for me.

Okay that’s actually my last post for a while until there’s more content

I don't quite agree. I've seen JJJ poor forth massive efforts in games where it wasn't required because of the player list (see Bread Mafia or even Fargo), and I've also seen him warn beforehand that he won't poor effort into the game, only to do so anyway.

But just because someone isn’t the same as what you’re used to doesn’t make them mafia. I’m not going to hard defend jjj, especially since he’s nothing more than null to me, it’s just that given what happened last game we all played together and other points mentioned thus far I can understand why he would be taking the approach he has so far if he’s town.

[MacDougall]

This post looks town to me for reasons I don’t want to get into. The EM gang or others should say if they feel this is not a post to be town read.

leetic/ilario are probably my top town read.

lol Jay wolfing

[VOTE: macdougall] aubergine


I actually think the idea that jay is off has been overblown and he's been largely fine so far and has given thoughts that appear real enough. Mac has done...not that.

yes I don't really think leetic is mafia for fart reasons that's fair

[MacDougall]

I guess I think nook and jay are v/v now lmao

ok ur town lol

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[iaafr]

wait you guys call it btsc here right

sorry for the cultural imperialism

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I guess I think nook and jay are v/v now lmao

ok ur town lol

Why

[Marmot]

Lol, marmot is town

Now I’m running into the opposite problem I had early game.

What was the opposite problem you had early game?

I couldn’t find anyone to tr

Fwiw I see the points people brought up about JJJ but I can also understand why he would be taking a more hands-off approach this particular game. I think he’s overall null for me.

Okay that’s actually my last post for a while until there’s more content

I don't quite agree. I've seen JJJ poor forth massive efforts in games where it wasn't required because of the player list (see Bread Mafia or even Fargo), and I've also seen him warn beforehand that he won't poor effort into the game, only to do so anyway.

But just because someone isn’t the same as what you’re used to doesn’t make them mafia. I’m not going to hard defend jjj, especially since he’s nothing more than null to me, it’s just that given what happened last game we all played together and other points mentioned thus far I can understand why he would be taking the approach he has so far if he’s town.

Well in JJJ's case he hasn't randed wolf in like 5 years, so it can maybe sort of apply here.

Also, I believe JJJ said he would take a hands-off approach after he received a bunch of pressure.

[Marmot]

wait you guys call it btsc here right

sorry for the cultural imperialism

Oh yeah, we have a pinned message in our btsc to call jjj weird and bus him

[Marmot]

I thought Mac was tying to overtake Epignosis as the all-time leader in Syndicate Wins lol.

Let's see, maybe he'll make it happen this game.

[iaafr]

wait you guys call it btsc here right

sorry for the cultural imperialism

Oh yeah, we have a pinned message in our btsc to call jjj weird and bus him

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

i dont think i actually scumread cassandra jay or nook but now i am scumreading you

since we are new to playing each other i have no meta reasons and i expect to be corrected and overridden on this read if wrong at some point so no concerns if i'm wrong

i feel like your takes are just very close to other takes / the differences are minor because minor differences are easy to come up with / your nutella read feels like TMI because of the generic tonal reasons of "looks comfy and refreshed," when my reasons (and i think the better reasons) include depth of thought

[iaafr]

playing with each other*

sigh my habit of skipping words sigh

[nutella]

i don't feel great about marmot either, the catchup takes just feel a bit forced and i think the NAA/leetic take in particular seems unnatural

[Marmot]

wait you guys call it btsc here right

sorry for the cultural imperialism

Oh yeah, we have a pinned message in our btsc to call jjj weird and bus him

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

i dont think i actually scumread cassandra jay or nook but now i am scumreading you

since we are new to playing each other i have no meta reasons and i expect to be corrected and overridden on this read if wrong at some point so no concerns if i'm wrong

i feel like your takes are just very close to other takes / the differences are minor because minor differences are easy to come up with / your nutella read feels like TMI because of the generic tonal reasons of "looks comfy and refreshed," when my reasons (and i think the better reasons) include depth of thought

I unfortunately wasn't around earlier to make any takes, you can have late-night marmot instead.

[iaafr]

I like NAA and dislike leetic in this interaction. NAA is having a joking around, while leetic continues to try to force a conversation with him, but I'm perceiving efforts to shade NAA for his antics than to actually engage him with a curious mind.

though for what it's worth, this matches one of my perceptions on leetic that

idk, leetic's idea of towny and scummy is sort of surface level and level 1 feeling all the time, though i personally liked the way he townread me... but idk, if he's the scum archetype who likes to townread what they think they'd correctly townread when the articulatable reason comes up... idk

it's a playstyle i tend to scumread

i could easily see this take being a real and good take and yet i'm not even sure leetic's scum

[Marmot]

i don't feel great about marmot either, the catchup takes just feel a bit forced and i think the NAA/leetic take in particular seems unnatural

What's unnatural about it?

[MacDougall]

I guess I think nook and jay are v/v now lmao

ok ur town lol

Why

Do me a favour and just ignore my presence until I do things that matter k?

[Marmot]

I like NAA and dislike leetic in this interaction. NAA is having a joking around, while leetic continues to try to force a conversation with him, but I'm perceiving efforts to shade NAA for his antics than to actually engage him with a curious mind.

though for what it's worth, this matches one of my perceptions on leetic that

idk, leetic's idea of towny and scummy is sort of surface level and level 1 feeling all the time, though i personally liked the way he townread me... but idk, if he's the scum archetype who likes to townread what they think they'd correctly townread when the articulatable reason comes up... idk

it's a playstyle i tend to scumread

i could easily see this take being a real and good take and yet i'm not even sure leetic's scum

What do you mean by "surface level and level 1", I'm confused on those terms.

[MacDougall]

I thought Mac was tying to overtake Epignosis as the all-time leader in Syndicate Wins lol.

Let's see, maybe he'll make it happen this game.

At this point I just have to sign up and wait for it to happen organically let's be honest

[iaafr]

like "self voting is bad and anti town"

"it's not rvs and people are solving and you not solving is a bad look"

it's stuff that obviously looks bad and not pro-town but are not particularly actually things that make one more likely to be of the scum alignment in a vacuum

leetic's painting of naa as bad seems kind of post-hoc and like he wants good looking reasons to stay voted on leetic that are distinct and unique

idk

if i am to confibas leetic/ilario as scum, the town version already talks it out in their private chat and explains the vote to thread in a more unified fashion? the ilario and leetic here have distinct reasons and seem to be in sync but like... idk... something about it's unnatural?

[iaafr]

obviously those arent direct quotes but paraphrases of what leetic was trying to paint naa as bad for

[iaafr]

[VOTE: ilario/leetic] aubergine

wildin

inb4 literally half scum half town

[iaafr]

@ilario if you are town i'm here to introduce the idea that you should be paranoid of your own slot

[MacDougall]

and we have come full circle and now rabbit agrees with me that leetic is afraid of my farts

[iaafr]

im sorry macdougall i should've seen the light earlier