Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

[Lime Coke]

@nutella

What is your worldview for this game?

Everyone is villagery lol

[leetic]

Why can't people be hedgey? It's D1 and the wolves aren't obvious.

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine Yeah that isn't happening.

All this "x could be scum, but could also be town" and "I don't want to vote for anyone, they're all so towny" doesn't help town at all and makes it easy for wolves to hide.

I have 1 post left, which I'll reserve in case of something that I or my partner really need to say. See you at EoD.

[Master Radishes]

Why can't people be hedgey? It's D1 and the wolves aren't obvious.

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine Yeah that isn't happening.

All this "x could be scum, but could also be town" and "I don't want to vote for anyone, they're all so towny" doesn't help town at all and makes it easy for wolves to hide.

Ah yes, as opposed to people overstating their confidence on their reads, which wolves simply find impossible to fake doing.

[Master Radishes]

SPF, Nutella, Jay, LC, leetic


Just noting.

[Master Radishes]

I don't like any of the current wagons. I didn't intend to sit on my vanity wagon but I may just do it anyway.

[Lime Coke]

I really don't know what to do honestly.

[Master Radishes]

I say we be spicy, not boring.

Good night.

[falcon45ca]

I say we be spicy, not boring.

Good night.

OK boss


[VOTE: Anne] aubergine

[staypositivefriend]

i'm not crazy about MR's response to me (because the post was filled with a bit too much bravado - he didnt actually address the concern that i had about him and just posted a more generalized rebuttal of why he thought that he was being voted) even though i don't find it that difficult to imagine him being town

i'll be back in like an hour, and i'm gonna park my vote on [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine because i dont like how difficult it has been to build momentum against his slot

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Sure...?

[Lime Coke]

As long as it's not one of my townreads being wagoned I'm fine.

[falcon45ca]

i'm not crazy about MR's response to me (because the post was filled with a bit too much bravado - he didnt actually address the concern that i had about him and just posted a more generalized rebuttal of why he thought that he was being voted) even though i don't find it that difficult to imagine him being town

i'll be back in like an hour, and i'm gonna park my vote on [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine because i dont like how difficult it has been to build momentum against his slot

If MR is Maf, there's good partner equity here

[DrWilgy]

Ising of reason the good for SPF. Notting to Falcon likeness.

You towning.

Wasing the busy for Holiday. Ising the active soon.

[Lime Coke]

i'm not crazy about MR's response to me (because the post was filled with a bit too much bravado - he didnt actually address the concern that i had about him and just posted a more generalized rebuttal of why he thought that he was being voted) even though i don't find it that difficult to imagine him being town

i'll be back in like an hour, and i'm gonna park my vote on [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine because i dont like how difficult it has been to build momentum against his slot

If MR is Maf, there's good partner equity here

Mmmmmm....no.

[falcon45ca]

i'm not crazy about MR's response to me (because the post was filled with a bit too much bravado - he didnt actually address the concern that i had about him and just posted a more generalized rebuttal of why he thought that he was being voted) even though i don't find it that difficult to imagine him being town

i'll be back in like an hour, and i'm gonna park my vote on [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine because i dont like how difficult it has been to build momentum against his slot

If MR is Maf, there's good partner equity here

Mmmmmm....no.

You know something I don't?

[DrWilgy]

Ising of Falcon be bullshitting.

Wasing the Wondering; To MR?

[Lime Coke]

i'm not crazy about MR's response to me (because the post was filled with a bit too much bravado - he didnt actually address the concern that i had about him and just posted a more generalized rebuttal of why he thought that he was being voted) even though i don't find it that difficult to imagine him being town

i'll be back in like an hour, and i'm gonna park my vote on [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine because i dont like how difficult it has been to build momentum against his slot

If MR is Maf, there's good partner equity here

Mmmmmm....no.

You know something I don't?

Did you not see the interaction that caused her to vote him?

[nutella]

See this is why I chose someone 'off the board' a bit. If I don't have any good leads then may as well play darts with a middle-presence slot.

Why can't people be hedgey? It's D1 and the wolves aren't obvious.

Well now I'm mindmelding with you

[VOTE: anne] aubergine

[Lime Coke]

Ising of Falcon be bullshitting.

Wasing the Wondering; To MR?

Okay what does "ising" and "wasing" mean? You've been using these all game and I have no idea what you're saying.

[falcon45ca]

Ising of Falcon be bullshitting.

Wasing the Wondering; To MR?

It feels like Jar Jar Binks just hijacked the Doc's account

[nutella]

Why can't people be hedgey? It's D1 and the wolves aren't obvious.

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine Yeah that isn't happening.

All this "x could be scum, but could also be town" and "I don't want to vote for anyone, they're all so towny" doesn't help town at all and makes it easy for wolves to hide.

I have 1 post left, which I'll reserve in case of something that I or my partner really need to say. See you at EoD.

Can you pinpoint why hedging is mafia indicative or do you just not like it? You may view it as counterproductive and not efficient protown behavior but that doesn't make it not town behavior. I will die on the hill that hedging is more villagery than not on average

[DrWilgy]

Notting of Mac, Falcon the trusting; My vote away.

NAA's case?

[nutella]

Ising of Falcon be bullshitting.

Wasing the Wondering; To MR?

Okay what does "ising" and "wasing" mean? You've been using these all game and I have no idea what you're saying.

He's gimmicking as a character from the mistborn series

[Lime Coke]

Ising of Falcon be bullshitting.

Wasing the Wondering; To MR?

Okay what does "ising" and "wasing" mean? You've been using these all game and I have no idea what you're saying.

He's gimmicking as a character from the mistborn series

Right but what do the words mean? I can understand what he's saying better if I understood them.

[nutella]

Hm this anne vote is oddly comfortable lets see where it goes

[falcon45ca]

See this is why I chose someone 'off the board' a bit. If I don't have any good leads then may as well play darts with a middle-presence slot.

Why can't people be hedgey? It's D1 and the wolves aren't obvious.

Well now I'm mindmelding with you

[VOTE: anne] aubergine

If you're mindmelding MR, then what are you doing to my mind?

[TonyStarkPrime]

It has come to my attention that I have messed up the poll timing. I blame time zones. Everyone may post now with limitations lifted, day will end at whatever time the first person who responds to this says it should end, sorry for the inconvenience

[NotAnAxehole]

lel

[TonyStarkPrime]

Day is ending at 8 like I said

[iaafr]

but the poll ends at 5 pm my time / 8 eastern?

it looks correct?

idk why postcap is being lifted early but ill take it ig

i

have nothing in particular to say

pref anne/wilgy/naa over dizzy/mr

of the first group, pref anne least, i think

[Lime Coke]

yayyyyyy lifted post cap.

[Lime Coke]

It WAS showing 7 PM my time but it just switched to 8 PM.

[NotAnAxehole]

Voting NAA is basically a policy yeet for me, since regardless of alignment NAA should never be allowed to end game.

lel

Voting NAA is basically a policy yeet for me, since regardless of alignment NAA should never be allowed to end game.

I can't come up with a different scumread otherwise. If I did I would be voting them.

Maybe this is why your town win rate is 0%, but in all seriousness, if I were the problem, town would be winning when I'm mafia... However, town is losing most of the time, which is probably a result of people not being very familiar with each other, and their playstyles. I get that you're upset about losing all the time, but you hardly played in that game and could have just disconnected from it (also it was bastard).

My view of NAA is quite ambivalent. There are little kernels of the town game I saw in Fleabag, e.g. the partially-troll-partially-cooperative treatment of me and my C L O U T. It’s a small point. I don’t know what he thinks of the game.

I need people who can reason with my point of view in order to be effective, bouncing ideas off of you is helpful. Also, the clout thing is just a strategy to gain and keep your attention so that I have more control over the game.

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: NAA] aubergine


Back to the program at hand.

[NotAnAxehole]

I'm ready to solve (actually I'm not - I was intending on having 1 more hour to gather my thoughts)

[NotAnAxehole]

[VOTE: NAA] aubergine


Back to the program at hand.

I knew I could get you back onboard.

[iaafr]

NAA who are your wolves aorn

[iaafr]

I'm ready to solve (actually I'm not - I was intending on having 1 more hour to gather my thoughts)

oh ok

[NotAnAxehole]

NAA who are your wolves aorn

Is it acceptable if I say you're up there on my list?

I guess since you're asking I'll provide the highest equity non-you answer, which at the moment is Anne, but I'm very early in my read of the thread. I surprisingly read next to none of the content while reaching 100 post cap.

[leetic]

Why can't people be hedgey? It's D1 and the wolves aren't obvious.

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine Yeah that isn't happening.

All this "x could be scum, but could also be town" and "I don't want to vote for anyone, they're all so towny" doesn't help town at all and makes it easy for wolves to hide.

I have 1 post left, which I'll reserve in case of something that I or my partner really need to say. See you at EoD.

Can you pinpoint why hedging is mafia indicative or do you just not like it? You may view it as counterproductive and not efficient protown behavior but that doesn't make it not town behavior. I will die on the hill that hedging is more villagery than not on average

Hedging is scummy because scum are far more concerned about staying consistent. They don't want too much scum reads off the bat because they don't want to make too many enemies or be blamed when their vote goes wrong but don't want many townreads either because they might have to vote them out later. I can link you to times when I caught a wolf based on excessive hedginess or when I was hedgy as a wolf myself. Of course, it can also be indicative of inexperienced villagers, but I'd like to think that the player quality here is too good for that

[leetic]

I feel if one of the people in the general POE is voted out and is scum there is a high chance that the others are as well

[iaafr]

NAA who are your wolves aorn

Is it acceptable if I say you're up there on my list?

I guess since you're asking I'll provide the highest equity non-you answer, which at the moment is Anne, but I'm very early in my read of the thread. I surprisingly read next to none of the content while reaching 100 post cap.

you should remove me regardless of your alignment because i'm never happening and i like to vote people who sus me when im town (either scum or town who cant successfully townread me, which i tend to be biased as thinking to be reflective of questionable skill or warped instincts [im aware this can be fallacious and sometimes the people scumreading me have accurate reads outside of me, but it is what it is])

[NotAnAxehole]

@iaafr I'm going to throw something at you that I know you're going to scoff at / think is a stupid thing to make anything out of, but I want you to reflect on it and give me the inside scoop on what runs your boat. I felt like you tried reasonably hard to post things that imply that you're town on D0, and it felt quite... Forced, talk to me about your thought process when you come into a game as "lhf" (your words). What are you trying to do as town, and as mafia.

[TonyStarkPrime]

but the poll ends at 5 pm my time / 8 eastern?

it looks correct?

idk why postcap is being lifted early but ill take it ig

i

have nothing in particular to say

pref anne/wilgy/naa over dizzy/mr

of the first group, pref anne least, i think

I had to fix it

[leetic]

A general rule is the worse things are going for town, the less wolves feel the need to act. I'd definitely reconsider nutella if we end up voting out town

[iaafr]

@iaafr I'm going to throw something at you that I know you're going to scoff at / think is a stupid thing to make anything out of, but I want you to reflect on it and give me the inside scoop on what runs your boat. I felt like you tried reasonably hard to post things that imply that you're town on D0, and it felt quite... Forced, talk to me about your thought process when you come into a game as "lhf" (your words). What are you trying to do as town, and as mafia.

this game has a lot of players i consider strong players who post a lot of good words as either alignment

i was half-seriously making reference to the fact that i might be a viable day 1, especially since i've been off my game recently and have not been as obvious town as town as i historically have been

it was an idle shitpost that did not have any game-forwarding intent as either alignment (i happened to be town but id say its fair to treat that thought as nai)

[leetic]

Notting of Mac, Falcon the trusting; My vote away.

NAA's case?

You're still scummy. Give me a reason why I should not vote you.

[falcon45ca]

CFD on Ilario?

[iaafr]

CFD on Ilario?

why

[leetic]

CFD on Ilario?

That's not happening. You're basically confirmed town, why aren't you doing more? You seem to be sheeping Mac, do you have your own thoughts?