Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I mean obviously its not a proper hydra, but its basically a hydra

[staypositivefriend]

i am not asking this facetiously: does anybody have any reasons to scumread anne or notanaxehole that don't boil down to: "They Aren't Towny"? if reasons have been posted in the last few pages, then i haven't gotten to see them yet

[iaafr]

Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?

Yeah, did you explain why you don't:

he was just describing the functionality with the word hydra, which is a word that independently popped into my head as well


also your accusation of it coming from mafia btsc doesn't even make sense because why would the host talk about your role in mafia btsc in the first place

[cassandra]

so essentially what happened between Mac and falcon was that they had one cop check to use on the other and Mac used it on falcon before falcon could use it on Mac?

[NotAnAxehole]

i'm still a little offput by how fast the wagon on Anne grew, though, especially when 3/5 on the wagon i have in my POE and she was getting townread earlier

i dunno, i probably won't vote her today

I think the main takeaway I have is that everyone who can read me is not on my wagon, so it would stand to reason for me, that any counter wagon would grow quickly in order to avoid an obvious mischop.

[nutella]

Yeah I'm happy staying on anne i think

[iaafr]

i am not asking this facetiously: does anybody have any reasons to scumread anne or notanaxehole that don't boil down to: "They Aren't Towny"? if reasons have been posted in the last few pages, then i haven't gotten to see them yet

naa's open survivalism does not feel like the town version, least not one I've ever seen

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?

Yeah, did you explain why you don't:

he was just describing the functionality with the word hydra, which is a word that independently popped into my head as well


also your accusation of it coming from mafia btsc doesn't even make sense because why would the host talk about your role in mafia btsc in the first place

Plus one

[leetic]

Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?

Yeah, did you explain why you don't:

...

You're two people sharing one slot, that's a hydra.

Hydras usually refer to a singular account, a setup like this is rare enough that I find it weird you would immediately call it a Hydra. If you show me precident for something like this though, I'll drop that poin

[ilario]

Anne is pretty much a black hole for me as a read. My response to the wagon is essentially: “okay”

jjj feels content with any wagon thats not him i feel

[cassandra]

ugh let me read NAA's iso quickly

[NotAnAxehole]

i am not asking this facetiously: does anybody have any reasons to scumread anne or notanaxehole that don't boil down to: "They Aren't Towny"? if reasons have been posted in the last few pages, then i haven't gotten to see them yet

naa's open survivalism does not feel like the town version, least not one I've ever seen

We've never agreed on mafia ideas in our few games together.

[DrWilgy]

People who refuse to engage with people are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at LyLo with any of them

People who want to kill people for not playing how they want them to are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at kilo with any of them.

Why would someone even play a social game like Mafia if they refuse to engage with people? That is my question

Ising the engagement. Notting of your liking though.

Notting of the trying of reading yet. Wasing of your crying instead.

[iaafr]

if falcon weren't greened I'd be considering voting him strongly lmao

[leetic]

Yeah I'm happy staying on anne i think

What are your thoughts on Axehole, Wilgy, and MR?

[cassandra]

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

actually yeah let's do this for now

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?

Yeah, did you explain why you don't:

...

You're two people sharing one slot, that's a hydra.

Hydras usually refer to a singular account, a setup like this is rare enough that I find it weird you would immediately call it a Hydra. If you show me precident for something like this though, I'll drop that poin

Why do you think that mafia would have tmi of your role

[Lime Coke]

if falcon weren't greened I'd be considering voting him strongly lmao

Low key feeling the same way here.

[NotAnAxehole]

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

actually yeah let's do this for now

I don't hate the idea, but I don't think it's happening and I don't think it's a good kill for today.

[cassandra]

if JJJ is maf i'm locktowning SPF for making me realize i shouldn't vote NAA because i can't think of concrete reasons other than him not being as extra as last game

[leetic]

Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?

Yeah, did you explain why you don't:

...

You're two people sharing one slot, that's a hydra.

Hydras usually refer to a singular account, a setup like this is rare enough that I find it weird you would immediately call it a Hydra. If you show me precident for something like this though, I'll drop that poin

Why do you think that mafia would have tmi of your role

They have access to wolfchat, and someone might have asked the host why two people are sharing a slot

[NotAnAxehole]

if JJJ is maf i'm locktowning SPF for making me realize i shouldn't vote NAA because i can't think of concrete reasons other than him not being as extra as last game

Last game was bastard.

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

Science

[staypositivefriend]

i am not asking this facetiously: does anybody have any reasons to scumread anne or notanaxehole that don't boil down to: "They Aren't Towny"? if reasons have been posted in the last few pages, then i haven't gotten to see them yet

naa's open survivalism does not feel like the town version, least not one I've ever seen

he feels less chaotic than the one towngame ive seen from him, but i think that might be because it seems like he took what illario said about him toward the beginning of the game to heart regardless of his alignment, and seems to have been playing w/the criticisms against his play in mind. im not sure that him acting different is scummy within itself, cause i think the circumstances of this game mean that he would act differently regardless of his alignment

and if i cast that aside, i dont really take any issue with his posts? it's true that he isn't towny, so he could be mafia, but i'm just looking for something more

[ilario]

wtf anne isnnt even here and u guys are voting her
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unvote

[cassandra]

if JJJ is maf i'm locktowning SPF for making me realize i shouldn't vote NAA because i can't think of concrete reasons other than him not being as extra as last game

Last game was bastard.

why does that matter?

[ilario]

@nutella dont vote anne

[Lime Coke]

if JJJ is maf i'm locktowning SPF for making me realize i shouldn't vote NAA because i can't think of concrete reasons other than him not being as extra as last game

Last game was bastard.

Bastard or not, you literally poisoned the player that was obvious town.

[staypositivefriend]

@Sloonei - if you're available, it would be really helpful to hear any snaptakes on jagged that you have

[NotAnAxehole]

if JJJ is maf i'm locktowning SPF for making me realize i shouldn't vote NAA because i can't think of concrete reasons other than him not being as extra as last game

Last game was bastard.

why does that matter?

Bastard roles lead to different playstyles. *shrug* I can't claim Jester in a non-bastard game.

[ilario]

Yeah naa is way more talkative this eod

[cassandra]

actually i think i'd rather vote Wilgy than NAA between those 2 looking at this iso, idk

[leetic]

wtf anne isnnt even here and u guys are voting her
\
unvote

Yeah, that's another issue I have with the wagon. It came from nowhere and does not appear to have risen organically.

[iaafr]

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

doesn't feel great but idk

[DrWilgy]

Ising the driving for Holiday now.

Notting the comfort of Falcon vote. Ising the avoiding of Anne.

Ising the low hanging fruit. Notting of SPF; the others Lazy.

[cassandra]

Yeah naa is way more talkative this eod

he capped early tho

[staypositivefriend]

unfortunately i have also reached the conclusion that jagged might be a wolf, but not sure if i want to go there on d1

[cassandra]

Ising the driving for Holiday now.

Notting the comfort of Falcon vote. Ising the avoiding of Anne.

Ising the low hanging fruit. Notting of SPF; the others Lazy.

idg why you're not making any sense when you made completely sense and spoke actual english last game

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?

Yeah, did you explain why you don't:

...

You're two people sharing one slot, that's a hydra.

Hydras usually refer to a singular account, a setup like this is rare enough that I find it weird you would immediately call it a Hydra. If you show me precident for something like this though, I'll drop that poin

Why do you think that mafia would have tmi of your role

They have access to wolfchat, and someone might have asked the host why two people are sharing a slot

And you think the host would tell them "oh sure here's their role pm" ??????

[NotAnAxehole]

if JJJ is maf i'm locktowning SPF for making me realize i shouldn't vote NAA because i can't think of concrete reasons other than him not being as extra as last game

Last game was bastard.

Bastard or not, you literally poisoned the player that was obvious town.

Oh well, if I opened the day saying I poisoned JoH, they would have said I poisoned an obvious town *shrug*. Bastard game, I was in the drivers seat due to having the PR and I was wrong... I had the potential teams right, but my evaluation of the bastard mechanic and how I tried to identify it was wrong.

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

[cassandra]

JJJ hasn't rolled wolf in 5 years and suddenly has a game where he seems so completely different than his previous games?

idk, seems odd.

[leetic]

Ising the driving for Holiday now.

Notting the comfort of Falcon vote. Ising the avoiding of Anne.

Ising the low hanging fruit. Notting of SPF; the others Lazy.

Aring the acting of scummy.

[iaafr]

jay/nutella/wilgy/x teams on the mind

big shrug

[Marmot]

Can people look over these MR posts with me? I think this is a wolf.

Mac's story doesn't feel like a lie? When mafia lie about mechanics they tend to either keep it simple ('I'm a cop') or overly complex ('I'm a cop on Nights that fall within the fibonacci sequence but I only get a result if its a 3P who has activated their ability and I get a double cop on N1'). Mac's story is specific in a different way ('after 26 hours I got fed up and used it') that is unlikely to be fabricated.

Or it is just a clever lie I guess, which is also a possibility because uh we're starting to reach peak 'confirmed town' in a game that's supposedly not bastard, so I can only imagine the power Mafia have here.

This is MR's response to Mac/falcon's claim. He immediately followed it up with a vote for Anne.

[VOTE: Anne] aubergine

How is Anne better than NAA? In what ways is Anne scummy to you?

Dunno but I'm sure I'll think of reasons eventually.

I don't like any of the current wagons. I didn't intend to sit on my vanity wagon but I may just do it anyway.

This is a lazy read for someone who has been putting forth some effort. 42 posts thus far. The timing of it with Mac's claim, the lack of reasoning behind it (even up to this point), and given that he's interacted with several other players since, I'm surprised his vote is still here.

[Lime Coke]

if JJJ is maf i'm locktowning SPF for making me realize i shouldn't vote NAA because i can't think of concrete reasons other than him not being as extra as last game

Last game was bastard.

Bastard or not, you literally poisoned the player that was obvious town.

Oh well, if I opened the day saying I poisoned JoH, they would have said I poisoned an obvious town *shrug*. Bastard game, I was in the drivers seat due to having the PR and I was wrong... I had the potential teams right, but my evaluation of the bastard mechanic and how I tried to identify it was wrong.

JoH wasn't obvious town at fucking all he barely did anything.

[leetic]

JJJ hasn't rolled wolf in 5 years and suddenly has a game where he seems so completely different than his previous games?

idk, seems odd.

He's roled wolf on Bulbagarden circa 2019, and I believe he mentioned having a wolf game after that?

[cassandra]

jay/nutella/wilgy/x teams on the mind

big shrug

why nutella?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

JJJ hasn't rolled wolf in 5 years and suddenly has a game where he seems so completely different than his previous games?

idk, seems odd.

Is this a meme

[Lime Coke]

jay/nutella/wilgy/x teams on the mind

big shrug

You...could be onto something here.