Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

[Lime Coke]

Why couldn't I have gotten the role cop role? Probably would've been useful by now.

Part of me is also thinking that the dude never used it N1 on purpose because he'd just do that.

[nutella]

tsp giving me fucking vanilla cop when theres also a full actual role cop in the game is just bm

[Dyslexicon]

Hmm.. read Leetic's wall post. I like it. I skimmed lightly though JJJ's iso before making the MR shot decision. On that ISO alone I was torn between Nutella, Ifaar as a 50/50 or just shoot MR who he seemed to be waffley on. I just the latter, but can be down with a Nutella flip.

Not to be all last week, but did you not ISO Radish?

[Lime Coke]

Whatever I'm stepping back off.

[leetic]

Hmm.. read Leetic's wall post. I like it. I skimmed lightly though JJJ's iso before making the MR shot decision. On that ISO alone I was torn between Nutella, Ifaar as a 50/50 or just shoot MR who he seemed to be waffley on. I just the latter, but can be down with a Nutella flip.

Not to be all last week, but did you not ISO Radish?

You still haven't claimed

Do it now

[Dyslexicon]

Honestly I think the JJJ yeet makes things alot more clear cut. There were two viable other wagons in Anne and I.

The only hesitation is that if Anne is scum, but then if that were the case then I have no clue what scum was doing not getting me yeeted? Asleep at the wheel?

And if Anne is town, what did scum do not getting you or Anne yeeted?

In other words, I don't understand your point here. Is there a point I'm missing? (I'm really asking)

[leetic]

Also nutella is still trying to disintegrate the town core

[Dyslexicon]

Hmm.. read Leetic's wall post. I like it. I skimmed lightly though JJJ's iso before making the MR shot decision. On that ISO alone I was torn between Nutella, Ifaar as a 50/50 or just shoot MR who he seemed to be waffley on. I just the latter, but can be down with a Nutella flip.

Not to be all last week, but did you not ISO Radish?

You still haven't claimed

Do it now

I didn't know we were apparently doing a mass claim. Your whole attitude makes me want to not do it lol.

I'm a message writer. I haven't used my role at all because it's essentially useless. Except if I were mafia it would also work as a roleblock.

[nutella]

Also nutella is still trying to disintegrate the town core

i knew you would say this lol

i'm not trying to get anyone to vote marmot today or anything i'm just putting the thought out there for late game

how many times do i have to say i still want to focus on poe first

[Dyslexicon]

Also nutella is still trying to disintegrate the town core

Me and Nutella are the towncore. Get rekt

[nutella]

Hmm.. read Leetic's wall post. I like it. I skimmed lightly though JJJ's iso before making the MR shot decision. On that ISO alone I was torn between Nutella, Ifaar as a 50/50 or just shoot MR who he seemed to be waffley on. I just the latter, but can be down with a Nutella flip.

Not to be all last week, but did you not ISO Radish?

You still haven't claimed

Do it now

I didn't know we were apparently doing a mass claim. Your whole attitude makes me want to not do it lol.

I'm a message writer. I haven't used my role at all because it's essentially useless. Except if I were mafia it would also work as a roleblock.

oh hey another conditional on alignment thing like marmot claimed, i asked ages ago if anyone else had something like that but i guess you havent read smh

hope you didnt roleblock me n1!

[Dyslexicon]

Ok Wilgy is towny when he drops the gimmick

Tbh I thought Mr was a bad shot because I had him as town, I think shooting the main CW (Anne) wouldve been correct there, though I wouldn't have cried about a Mac shot.

Fair then. I still haven't really read day 1, but it was JJJ's iso that led me to MR.

My suspicion on Nutella kept me from inquiring the CW. Anne is locktown if Nutella flips scum yes?

Mac was going to take our time regardless of if it was my shot or a yeet.

PoE is pretty straightforward:
Mac, Nutella, Dizzy, Esooa

Falcon will be added if Mac flips red. Anne will be added if Nutella flips green, NAA will be added if Esooa flips red.

Contest me on these 50/50s plz.

I don't know if we win if Ilario, Iaafr, Leetic, Marmot, SPF or Cass is scum without some mechanical savior button.

I was in the process of hating Wilgy's ISO. The orange seems to show he did not know Mac/Falcon were lovers, but I suppose he could pretend. I don't actually know if that was revealed in thread at this time. I thought it proved he didn't know, but then I remembered mafia can be deceptive lol. But I don't know, bringing it up anyway, because I thought about it

[Dyslexicon]

oh hey another conditional on alignment thing like marmot claimed, i asked ages ago if anyone else had something like that but i guess you havent read smh

hope you didnt roleblock me n1!

I already mentioned mine worked different if I was mafia actually. Leetic said something about doubting that there would be roles that included working differently for alignments, and I said mine did.

[Dyslexicon]

The thing I don't like about Nut is how Jimmay talked about Nut and also Nut/iaafr interaction. That was weird as shit. But Jimmay's whole ISO is honestly weird as shit.

[Dyslexicon]

I hope Esooa has some juicy AtE with that self vote

[iaafr]

The thing I don't like about Nut is how Jimmay talked about Nut and also Nut/iaafr interaction. That was weird as shit. But Jimmay's whole ISO is honestly weird as shit.

wilgy and falcon were p stuck on that like for a significant period

wilgys been stuck on it essentially since n1 lol

[Esooa]

I was going to write my own town core but it's so disappointing I am not going to finish it

@ilario play more so I can include you

[Dyslexicon]

The thing I don't like about Nut is how Jimmay talked about Nut and also Nut/iaafr interaction. That was weird as shit. But Jimmay's whole ISO is honestly weird as shit.

wilgy and falcon were p stuck on that like for a significant period

wilgys been stuck on it essentially since n1 lol

Yeah, but it really really was weird.

Now I can't decide whether Wilgy's ISO is unaware (he has weird ideas about Mac's claim it seems) or scummy aware bussing of Mac, saying Mac is scum all the time but voting other options, until D2 when Mac is an option. I'm pretty sure I don't like it tbh. But I'm also pretty sure I shouldn't be saying opinions as they come to me when they are super unfiltered, because then some people will come for me for following consensus or disrupting consensus while I'm just trying to speak my thoughts.

[Dyslexicon]

@leetic What inspired you to dig up an old Jimmay game on D1?

[iaafr]

obligatory i hate everybodys association reads but my own (and i hate my own too) post

retweet

double retweet

[Dyslexicon]

im more interested in seeing mac genuinely scumhunt, which i do not feel like he has

This so much. He's just saying "mafia is voting me because they want to get rid of lovers" and it's the worst. Mac can actually do stuff when he's town, and he's doing none of that here. He does a lot of treading water as mafia, which is what this looks like. But I kind of want some clarification from Falcon regarding how their role actually works, cause it's still confusing to me.

Then just vote me out dude... you're getting the best of me you're getting for now. Either be patient or just wagon me.

This is (partly) what swayed me and I feel shame

[Dyslexicon]

either the setup is broken or theyre bullshitting about the mafia finding out that theyre lovers

Did you think Falcon was bullshitting too? I'm confusion.

[Dyslexicon]

Also, how the fuck will I know when my posts are up? I went over last day phase.

[iaafr]

Also, how the fuck will I know when my posts are up? I went over last day phase.

this post I'm quoting is 213/292

switch to desktop mode if you're on mobile to see your number of posts in topic under your avatar

[Esooa]

[VOTE: iaafr] aubergine

made some big world view post day 2 and a day later or something his thoughts were "the same as this"

probs self aware of himself enough to do the move off the wolf wagon at least a bit

makes posts like "miss you <3" to dizzy but don't care me (biggest offence)

alexa death

[iaafr]

<3 <3 <3

[Esooa]

<3 <3 <3

it's too late iaafr I've seen the pictures......

[iaafr]

[VOTE: iaafr] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: iaafr] aubergine

This needs more AtE

[Dyslexicon]

leetic is shielding Anne not spf lol

Watch me read too much into this, but Lime praised Leetic for being a hero and Mac posts this as there is a difference. Is it too much to interpret "lol Leetic is not a hero he's shielding Anne"? Ok, but post cred as the kids say

[Dyslexicon]

@falcon45ca This shit

I love the aesthetic similarity between rabbitposts and nutellaposts, as a general concept rather than a reference to this specific game. Swap their avatars and it's convincing.

iaafr is something resembling a green skittle. I don't have strong feelings but he seems okay. nutella is the absence of a skittle. I'm sure she'll do things when she feels like it so play on

And this shit

nutella and iaafr tend to look good in their dealings with each other in a way that reminds me of my own dynamic with Sloonei. They speak the same language and in that interaction a purer expression of them seems to emerge. That might not be super clear; it’s dependent upon an abstract connection to a specific player. I’m not sure that is a universal experience for everyone.

Anyway I like their cooperative vibe

Neither of these have anything to do with alignment but Jay felt the need to raise this twice. He also put this in a very positive light. I read this very strictly as a W stapling a teammate to a V for shared credit to both. I don't think a wolf actively preaches cred for two V like this, this is a 50/50.

Agreed

nah thats a meaningless read, jay has prior reference for the unique dynamic iaafr and i have and would make that comment knowing we're both v

Just for clarity, what is the dynamic? Is it sexy mud wrestling?

[Dyslexicon]

You know what I've realised? I hate being town and I hate to just not know shit. I already knew I hated to play as mafia, but I also hate to play as town. This is growth

[iaafr]

I'm so brokenhearted from hurting esooa I need to be put out of my misery

[leetic]

[VOTE: iaafr] aubergine

made some big world view post day 2 and a day later or something his thoughts were "the same as this"

probs self aware of himself enough to do the move off the wolf wagon at least a bit

makes posts like "miss you <3" to dizzy but don't care me (biggest offence)

alexa death

He's cleared town you silly-billy

[leetic]

[VOTE: iaafr] aubergine

I'm not going to vote for cleared town but I still fucking hate self-voting

[leetic]

To keep this information organized:

Player - Claim
anne - Tracker (kind of)
DrWilgy - 1x Vig
Dyslexicon - Messenger/Roleblocker
iaafr - Backup Loyal Dayvig, was Vanilla
ilario/leetic - Masons/Pseudo-Hydra
Lime Coke - ???
Marmot - Settles ties
nutella - Vanilla Cop
Esooa - Fruit Vendor
staypositivefriend - ???

Feel free to update this when more information comes out

Updated

[leetic]

@leetic What inspired you to dig up an old Jimmay game on D1?

I expected wolf Jay to be awesome like in that game and not lame like in this game]

What inspired you to stay on a no vote wagon?

[Dyslexicon]

@leetic What inspired you to dig up an old Jimmay game on D1?

I expected wolf Jay to be awesome like in that game and not lame like in this game]

What inspired you to stay on a no vote wagon?

Was it a game you had played with him?

I had read almost nothing of the game and didn't care much.

[leetic]

Hmm.. read Leetic's wall post. I like it. I skimmed lightly though JJJ's iso before making the MR shot decision. On that ISO alone I was torn between Nutella, Ifaar as a 50/50 or just shoot MR who he seemed to be waffley on. I just the latter, but can be down with a Nutella flip.

Not to be all last week, but did you not ISO Radish?

You still haven't claimed

Do it now

I didn't know we were apparently doing a mass claim. Your whole attitude makes me want to not do it lol.

I'm a message writer. I haven't used my role at all because it's essentially useless. Except if I were mafia it would also work as a roleblock.

That is something that can at least be confirmed, you should have used it

@Lime Coke, are you the one who roleblocked nutella? I have a feeling this is the case

[leetic]

Also nutella is still trying to disintegrate the town core

i knew you would say this lol

i'm not trying to get anyone to vote marmot today or anything i'm just putting the thought out there for late game

how many times do i have to say i still want to focus on poe first

The PoE is stretched so thin that scum needs votes outside of it to win. Plus you're mainly talking about how people might be wolves without actually putting out any evidence that they are wolves

[Esooa]

[VOTE: iaafr] aubergine

made some big world view post day 2 and a day later or something his thoughts were "the same as this"

probs self aware of himself enough to do the move off the wolf wagon at least a bit

makes posts like "miss you <3" to dizzy but don't care me (biggest offence)

alexa death

He's cleared town you silly-billy

who care light role madness

[leetic]

I mean, it has to be either LC or spf who did it, unless nutella or Dyslexicon are lying

I was going to write my own town core but it's so disappointing I am not going to finish it

@ilario play more so I can include you

ilario said he's busy with exams so he won't be around much this phase

[Dyslexicon]

That is something that can at least be confirmed, you should have used it

@Lime Coke, are you the one who roleblocked nutella? I have a feeling this is the case

I didn't want to use it cause I just think it adds a layer of confusion. And if I was to use it, I would want to write to someone who I thought was town like Calexa, but I didn't want to target someone and have that show up on potential trackers/watchers, it just adds confusion that really doesn't need to be there. But sure I can start writing letters if people want.

[leetic]

[VOTE: iaafr] aubergine

made some big world view post day 2 and a day later or something his thoughts were "the same as this"

probs self aware of himself enough to do the move off the wolf wagon at least a bit

makes posts like "miss you <3" to dizzy but don't care me (biggest offence)

alexa death

He's cleared town you silly-billy

who care light role madness

Read my reasoning, the only way iaafr is scum is if this game is bastard

[Dyslexicon]

I might read it eventually, but why is iaafr cleared?

[leetic]

I might read it eventually, but why is iaafr cleared?

can someone walk me through why iaaft is being considered for his claim? i feel like i missed something

P1: Loyal means the action will fail when used on a player of a different alignment.
P2: iaafr used his dayvig on NotAnAxehole, who flipped town.
P3: This is not a bastard game.
C: iaafr is clear town.

[Dyslexicon]

I'd recommend everyone look at scum Jay here: https://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.ph ... ry.268037/

(Obviously after the flip today)

I see you modded the game. Cool. That makes sense then, that you would have it in your mind already.

[Esooa]

[VOTE: iaafr] aubergine

made some big world view post day 2 and a day later or something his thoughts were "the same as this"

probs self aware of himself enough to do the move off the wolf wagon at least a bit

makes posts like "miss you <3" to dizzy but don't care me (biggest offence)

alexa death

He's cleared town you silly-billy

who care light role madness

Read my reasoning, the only way iaafr is scum is if this game is bastard

what if u read the game and saw that every role is unique in weird ways and it'd be extremely easy for the backup to not work 100% like normal or some other thing

I don't care about the mech clear you think you have at all

[Dyslexicon]

I might read it eventually, but why is iaafr cleared?

can someone walk me through why iaaft is being considered for his claim? i feel like i missed something

P1: Loyal means the action will fail when used on a player of a different alignment.
P2: iaafr used his dayvig on NotAnAxehole, who flipped town.
P3: This is not a bastard game.
C: iaafr is clear town.

He could just be lying though?

I mean, I think he's probably town anyway.

Also, that's an awful role and why the fuck would you ever actually use that role? @iaafr Why.

[Esooa]

I just remembered the last two times I've been misexed were games I subbed into and went "lol"