Akemi Homura Mafia [Town Win]

[CRichard]

Hello? Is anyone there?

[CRichard]

Hey Paopan, if you're reading this I may have been a little unfair on your play.
Who knew my perspective would be so woefully uninformed?

[falcon45ca]

Hello? Is anyone there?

Yeah

[Gavial]

Ngl Falcon might be town after all and I'm inclined to trust Mac's legacy that included them as town before death.

Hmm.
Me no like.

[CRichard]

Ngl Falcon might be town after all and I'm inclined to trust Mac's legacy that included them as town before death.

Hmm.
Me no like.

Didn't you read what Falcon had to say about MissC?
I got the impression you liked it. Am I remembering it wrong?

[falcon45ca]

Ngl Falcon might be town after all and I'm inclined to trust Mac's legacy that included them as town before death.

Hmm.
Me no like.

Feels a bit pockety

[falcon45ca]

Ngl Falcon might be town after all and I'm inclined to trust Mac's legacy that included them as town before death.

Hmm.
Me no like.

Didn't you read what Falcon had to say about MissC?
I got the impression you liked it. Am I remembering it wrong?

I'd like to hear what Porscha has to say about it as well, and MissC

[CRichard]

Ngl Falcon might be town after all and I'm inclined to trust Mac's legacy that included them as town before death.

Hmm.
Me no like.

Didn't you read what Falcon had to say about MissC?
I got the impression you liked it. Am I remembering it wrong?

I'd like to hear what Porscha has to say about it as well, and MissC

Well seeing as MissC was the one you said is the last wolf, they probably won't like your case.
As for Porscha, all we can do is wait.

[CRichard]

BTW if MissC flip ends the game, I call dibs on saying I told you so and so does Mac.

[Gavial]

Ngl Falcon might be town after all and I'm inclined to trust Mac's legacy that included them as town before death.

Hmm.
Me no like.

Didn't you read what Falcon had to say about MissC?
I got the impression you liked it. Am I remembering it wrong?

Who’s says I’m taking about Falcon.

[Gavial]

BTW if MissC flip ends the game, I call dibs on saying I told you so and so does Mac.

BTW I still think it’s probable Falcon makes this play as wolf to remove PoE.

[Gavial]

You say all this and yet you don’t vote Miss Caro.
Lol.

[Gavial]

What are you waiting for? Por to give you the right away?

[Gavial]

If CRichard is scum I could see them bringing Por to F3 for Pocket.

[falcon45ca]

Ngl Falcon might be town after all and I'm inclined to trust Mac's legacy that included them as town before death.

Hmm.
Me no like.

Didn't you read what Falcon had to say about MissC?
I got the impression you liked it. Am I remembering it wrong?

I'd like to hear what Porscha has to say about it as well, and MissC

Well seeing as MissC was the one you said is the last wolf, they probably won't like your case.
As for Porscha, all we can do is wait.

I'm not expecting her to enjoy what I had to say, I want to hear her explanation, if any

[Gavial]

A Syndicate User in the future said:
Geez Gavial talks out of his ass so much I can’t tell if he has 1 or 2 asses.

[Gavial]

A Syndicate User in the future said:
Geez Gavial talks out of his ass so much I can’t tell if he has 1 or 2 asses.

I have 3, Fuck Off!

[falcon45ca]

@CRichard You've got MissC as part of your solve. Can you outline again your scum read on her slot?

[falcon45ca]

BTW if MissC flip ends the game, I call dibs on saying I told you so and so does Mac.

BTW I still think it’s probable Falcon makes this play as wolf to remove PoE.

Yeah, but I can't invent someone's ISO. MissC said what she said, and I've found it strange since it was posted. I asked her for follow up, which she only did after I asked a 2nd time.


If I'm Maf, and my partner Wilgy is on the hot seat straight out the gate, there's no fucking way I NK my top defenders in LC and Mac.

[falcon45ca]

BTW if MissC flip ends the game, I call dibs on saying I told you so and so does Mac.

BTW I still think it’s probable Falcon makes this play as wolf to remove PoE.

Yeah, but I can't invent someone's ISO. MissC said what she said, and I've found it strange since it was posted. I asked her for follow up, which she only did after I asked a 2nd time.


If I'm Maf, and my partner Wilgy is on the hot seat straight out the gate, there's no fucking way I NK my top defenders in LC and Mac.

And MissC's follow up re: Wilgy's quotes of Porscha does not add up. It's impossible

[falcon45ca]

MissC also mentioned Wilgy's take on CR as being part if her TR on Wilgy.


@Gavial @CRichard Can you both go thru Wilgy's ISO for his read on CR and see if MissC exhibits a similar progression in her ISO?

[CRichard]

You say all this and yet you don’t vote Miss Caro.
Lol.

If this is for me, then that would be because I have an aversion to quickhammers.
Yet if it's plurality, then sure I'll move my vote there.

[CRichard]

@CRichard You've got MissC as part of your solve. Can you outline again your scum read on her slot?

Its mainly Process of Elimination as I have Gav, Porsch and you as more likely town than MissC is.

[Gavial]

You say all this and yet you don’t vote Miss Caro.
Lol.

If this is for me, then that would be because I have an aversion to quickhammers.
Yet if it's plurality, then sure I'll move my vote there.

Then entire time how did you not know this game is plurality?

[CRichard]

You say all this and yet you don’t vote Miss Caro.
Lol.

If this is for me, then that would be because I have an aversion to quickhammers.
Yet if it's plurality, then sure I'll move my vote there.

Then entire time how did you not know this game is plurality?

Oh yeah I knew it was plurality, I thought there was also majority as well.

[CRichard]

MissC also mentioned Wilgy's take on CR as being part if her TR on Wilgy.


@Gavial @CRichard Can you both go thru Wilgy's ISO for his read on CR and see if MissC exhibits a similar progression in her ISO?

Yeah that's a good idea. I'll do that then.

[CRichard]

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/search.ph ... 8&sr=posts

[CRichard]

Unless someone can tell me if there are better options than resolving the D1 wagons on Wilgy, that's where my vote will be going.
To be clear, Wilgy's vote on Sig can be chalked up to self preservation, yet the fact that 1. The wagons were close in number of votes and 2. The 0 poster went over thanks to Pao and Gav's votes leads me to think that if Wilgy is mafia, then Paopan/Gav would contain the last wolf.

Gav has so much thread weight, I'm unsure why you'd want to resolve me prior to Gav. Unless it's just because my vote was for you prior to saving myself.

Also, is my teammate Gav or Pao?

I think this is a good look for Gav as we know Pao flipped town, which means that as they wouldn't put their real teammate in here then Gav isn't the last mafia.

[CRichard]

sig is a fucking insane kill here. i'm not voting gavial or mac today because i'm not knocking out the most active players on d1 of a mountainous game. CR almost qualifies for this even though i scumlean him because he is participating in the thread and is helpful for us if town, but i'm still fine killing him today.

killing sig makes no god damn sense. cool, 20% chance we hit a wolf with a completely blind shot. if we hit a town we literally gain the least information possible and we just lose a kill for no reason. it's a complete unforced error. killing sig is a completely -ev play

I see... Well CR pinged me earlier. I'll entertain that.

[VOTE: CR] aubergine

There's this response that Wilgy makes to MissC and I don't think they act this weird around any other slot to my knowledge. That might change after I read more posts.

[CRichard]

I get the feeling that MissC and Wilgy have that w/w vibes from their interaction. As in they feel stilted talking to each other.
Which I don't detect when the two of them talk to others especially the flipped towns.

[falcon45ca]

How many times do MissC and Wilgy directly quote/interact w/ each other?

[Porscha]

Trust me Falcon it is best that one of you or Miss Caro go over today they are not wrong.

@Porscha
Will make sure to really Evaluate CRichard if I die tonight.
You can promise this right Porscha?

>I make no guarantees ;p

i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking, which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote

This post still sticks out to me.



After Wilgy flips, MissC really steps up her game.

>I also thought this but didnt check ISO's so I wasnt for certain. thanks for confirming

@Gavial @Porscha @CRichard I'd like you 3 to go over what I've posted and see what you think

>I like your progression and hard details showing MC's and wilgy's interactions. I also was really surprised with MC's call for scumreading me over all the other players available at the time. it felt like it came from out of left field. but I am pretty sure wilgy had started pushing for me without directly quoting me before MC agreed with him. not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure he had started putting me on his poe by then?

I liked that falcon went out of their way to post their own ISO's from their past 3 games where they were maf. they offered up that info. as far as I've seen, nobody has commented on that information at all. but compared to miss c who has been posting a lot less, and their last ones weren't really a contribution to the game, falcon comes off as more town to me now

i literally made over 100 posts d2

i just don't care about posting during the night phase

i was referring to after your large amount of posts. I will accept your answer that you dont care to talk that much at night, I guess...

[CRichard]

How many times do MissC and Wilgy directly quote/interact w/ each other?

Now that's something we should answer.

[CRichard]

i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking, which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote

Odd.




Why would the loss of Dr Wilgy, if town, hurt a lot? By his own admission he's not been very engaged this game

i find that he says a lot of things that line up well with my thinking so i would like to keep him around if town

Can you be more specific? Do you have 3 examples of insights Wilgy has had that line up w/ your thinking?

i can but i’m on mobile so it’ll have to wait

Are you able to give us those 3 examples of Wilgy insights that lined up w/ your thinking?

had similar progression on CR as me, quoted same set of porscha posts that made me scumread them, wanted pao dead.

poe was pao/gav/porscha/MQ all of whom i wouldn't have really shed a tear at dying yesterday.

Similar progression on my slot? Is that right? Well well lets find out if that's the case.

[Miss Carousel]

Odd.




Why would the loss of Dr Wilgy, if town, hurt a lot? By his own admission he's not been very engaged this game

i find that he says a lot of things that line up well with my thinking so i would like to keep him around if town

Can you be more specific? Do you have 3 examples of insights Wilgy has had that line up w/ your thinking?

i can but i’m on mobile so it’ll have to wait

Are you able to give us those 3 examples of Wilgy insights that lined up w/ your thinking?

had similar progression on CR as me, quoted same set of porscha posts that made me scumread them, wanted pao dead.

poe was pao/gav/porscha/MQ all of whom i wouldn't have really shed a tear at dying yesterday.

Similar progression on my slot? Is that right? Well well lets find out if that's the case.

= wanted you dead d1 and then decided you were town afterwards

i haven't read the game since my last post this was just the most recent post when i opened the thread. coming back later

[CRichard]

i find that he says a lot of things that line up well with my thinking so i would like to keep him around if town

Can you be more specific? Do you have 3 examples of insights Wilgy has had that line up w/ your thinking?

i can but i’m on mobile so it’ll have to wait

Are you able to give us those 3 examples of Wilgy insights that lined up w/ your thinking?

had similar progression on CR as me, quoted same set of porscha posts that made me scumread them, wanted pao dead.

poe was pao/gav/porscha/MQ all of whom i wouldn't have really shed a tear at dying yesterday.

Similar progression on my slot? Is that right? Well well lets find out if that's the case.

= wanted you dead d1 and then decided you were town afterwards

i haven't read the game since my last post this was just the most recent post when i opened the thread. coming back later

Interesting. That's similar to how Dr Wilgy treated my slot until they had to back off my slot.
Still we have the rest of the day to talk.

[CRichard]

Now I can't rule out a world where MissC is a town and by a horribly unlucky coincidence happened to be thinking similarly to a wolf.
Hmmm

[Porscha]

Now I can't rule out a world where MissC is a town and by a horribly unlucky coincidence happened to be thinking similarly to a wolf.
Hmmm

I'm waiting to see if MC can make as a compelling argument as falcon did before I cast harder judgment, but I'm townreading falcon atm

[CRichard]

Now I can't rule out a world where MissC is a town and by a horribly unlucky coincidence happened to be thinking similarly to a wolf.
Hmmm

I'm waiting to see if MC can make as a compelling argument as falcon did before I cast harder judgment, but I'm townreading falcon atm

Ngl the longer MissC doesn't try to answer Falcon's case the more I'm willing to think we've got the game in the bag as town.

[Porscha]

Now I can't rule out a world where MissC is a town and by a horribly unlucky coincidence happened to be thinking similarly to a wolf.
Hmmm

I'm waiting to see if MC can make as a compelling argument as falcon did before I cast harder judgment, but I'm townreading falcon atm

Ngl the longer MissC doesn't try to answer Falcon's case the more I'm willing to think we've got the game in the bag as town.

I'm not ruling you out rich. I think if it isn't mc it's probs you

[CRichard]

Now I can't rule out a world where MissC is a town and by a horribly unlucky coincidence happened to be thinking similarly to a wolf.
Hmmm

I'm waiting to see if MC can make as a compelling argument as falcon did before I cast harder judgment, but I'm townreading falcon atm

Ngl the longer MissC doesn't try to answer Falcon's case the more I'm willing to think we've got the game in the bag as town.

I'm not ruling you out rich. I think if it isn't mc it's probs you

Ok if you think we might have a deepwolf, why can't it be Gav for example in your Pov?
Or Falcon for that matter?

[Gavial]

Now I can't rule out a world where MissC is a town and by a horribly unlucky coincidence happened to be thinking similarly to a wolf.
Hmmm

I'm waiting to see if MC can make as a compelling argument as falcon did before I cast harder judgment, but I'm townreading falcon atm

Ngl the longer MissC doesn't try to answer Falcon's case the more I'm willing to think we've got the game in the bag as town.

I'm not ruling you out rich. I think if it isn't mc it's probs you

Ok if you think we might have a deepwolf, why can't it be Gav for example in your Pov?
Or Falcon for that matter?

Why do you want them to rule you out?

[Porscha]

Now I can't rule out a world where MissC is a town and by a horribly unlucky coincidence happened to be thinking similarly to a wolf.
Hmmm

I'm waiting to see if MC can make as a compelling argument as falcon did before I cast harder judgment, but I'm townreading falcon atm

Ngl the longer MissC doesn't try to answer Falcon's case the more I'm willing to think we've got the game in the bag as town.

I'm not ruling you out rich. I think if it isn't mc it's probs you

Ok if you think we might have a deepwolf, why can't it be Gav for example in your Pov?
Or Falcon for that matter?

okay I have more of a structured list than I did at beginning of day:

mc
crich
falcon
gav

I'm not ruling anyone out right now, but I do still think gav is probs most town atm and I thought falcon's recent thought progression was more of a town play

[CRichard]

Now I can't rule out a world where MissC is a town and by a horribly unlucky coincidence happened to be thinking similarly to a wolf.
Hmmm

I'm waiting to see if MC can make as a compelling argument as falcon did before I cast harder judgment, but I'm townreading falcon atm

Ngl the longer MissC doesn't try to answer Falcon's case the more I'm willing to think we've got the game in the bag as town.

I'm not ruling you out rich. I think if it isn't mc it's probs you

Ok if you think we might have a deepwolf, why can't it be Gav for example in your Pov?
Or Falcon for that matter?

Why do you want them to rule you out?

I'm more interested in see where their mind is at.
If they clear me great, though that's not my number one concern talking with Porscha.

[Miss Carousel]

Can you be more specific? Do you have 3 examples of insights Wilgy has had that line up w/ your thinking?

i can but i’m on mobile so it’ll have to wait

Are you able to give us those 3 examples of Wilgy insights that lined up w/ your thinking?

had similar progression on CR as me, quoted same set of porscha posts that made me scumread them, wanted pao dead.

poe was pao/gav/porscha/MQ all of whom i wouldn't have really shed a tear at dying yesterday.

Similar progression on my slot? Is that right? Well well lets find out if that's the case.

= wanted you dead d1 and then decided you were town afterwards

i haven't read the game since my last post this was just the most recent post when i opened the thread. coming back later

Interesting. That's similar to how Dr Wilgy treated my slot until they had to back off my slot.
Still we have the rest of the day to talk.

literally you're quoting a post where i said "wilgy had a similar progression on CR as me and that's part of why i townread him" and being like "huh, that's like how wilgy treated my slot!"

like???

[CRichard]

I had Porscha as a tinfoil coming into today, yet I think their posts make sense from a town perspective and I'm willing to drop the tinfoil on them.

[Miss Carousel]

alright fuck it i'm exhausted from real life and don't feel a ton of motivation but i'm annoyed rn lmao i'm not dying to this weak ass case gimme like two hours

[CRichard]

i can but i’m on mobile so it’ll have to wait

Are you able to give us those 3 examples of Wilgy insights that lined up w/ your thinking?

had similar progression on CR as me, quoted same set of porscha posts that made me scumread them, wanted pao dead.

poe was pao/gav/porscha/MQ all of whom i wouldn't have really shed a tear at dying yesterday.

Similar progression on my slot? Is that right? Well well lets find out if that's the case.

= wanted you dead d1 and then decided you were town afterwards

i haven't read the game since my last post this was just the most recent post when i opened the thread. coming back later

Interesting. That's similar to how Dr Wilgy treated my slot until they had to back off my slot.
Still we have the rest of the day to talk.

literally you're quoting a post where i said "wilgy had a similar progression on CR as me and that's part of why i townread him" and being like "huh, that's like how wilgy treated my slot!"

like???

Speak of the Devil and they will appear much?
Oh here's another idiom. If the shoe fits....

[Miss Carousel]

Are you able to give us those 3 examples of Wilgy insights that lined up w/ your thinking?

had similar progression on CR as me, quoted same set of porscha posts that made me scumread them, wanted pao dead.

poe was pao/gav/porscha/MQ all of whom i wouldn't have really shed a tear at dying yesterday.

Similar progression on my slot? Is that right? Well well lets find out if that's the case.

= wanted you dead d1 and then decided you were town afterwards

i haven't read the game since my last post this was just the most recent post when i opened the thread. coming back later

Interesting. That's similar to how Dr Wilgy treated my slot until they had to back off my slot.
Still we have the rest of the day to talk.

literally you're quoting a post where i said "wilgy had a similar progression on CR as me and that's part of why i townread him" and being like "huh, that's like how wilgy treated my slot!"

like???

Speak of the Devil and they will appear much?
Oh here's another idiom. If the shoe fits....

just saying you posted like a dozen times about how paopan was an absolutely terrible town who deserved to die even after they were already out of the game and i thought it was a little out of line and if you're town your posts today have been terrible lol

[Gavial]

alright fuck it i'm exhausted from real life and don't feel a ton of motivation but i'm annoyed rn lmao i'm not dying to this weak ass case gimme like two hours

Idk man, Wilgy didn’t have a good case either until Day 2 yet he still went over for it.