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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
oh also, i mindmelded with esooa about a specific fingersplints posting being towny within the same ~60 seconds, and i know that mindmelds are easily fakeable by wolves (cause they can use their TMI to point out towny posts pretty easily), but i thought the specific timing of our mindmeld was >rand likely to make her town
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
zomg everyone's so towny
also his posts suck yet he has a lot of people townreading him for minor bad reasons which is >>>>rand wolf, and he hasn't answered my questioned about his dizzy read despite me pinging him multiple times
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
@Dyslexicon @Gira @Esooa
Whether we win the game or lose the game is beside the argument. You choppingme, if you are a villager, is probably the worst single chop in the history of chops that I have ever seen, in my entire life, in 3 years, on MU, on TS, and I've been a host for 2 of them and played dozens. It is potentially one of the most anti-town actions I've laid my eyes on in my entire WW career. It is atrocious, dumbfounding, and inexcusable, and close to the border of gamethrowing. And sullies your entire effort to the game, so that your biggest contribution to the game is one in which you are literally indistinguishable to an outted wolf whose team has been decimated so far. Indeed, if you are a villager then wolves got an extra wolf, meaning that YOU ALONE are responsible for making this setup wolfsided. Think about that for a second.
Whether we win the game or lose the game is beside the argument. You choppingme, if you are a villager, is probably the worst single chop in the history of chops that I have ever seen, in my entire life, in 3 years, on MU, on TS, and I've been a host for 2 of them and played dozens. It is potentially one of the most anti-town actions I've laid my eyes on in my entire WW career. It is atrocious, dumbfounding, and inexcusable, and close to the border of gamethrowing. And sullies your entire effort to the game, so that your biggest contribution to the game is one in which you are literally indistinguishable to an outted wolf whose team has been decimated so far. Indeed, if you are a villager then wolves got an extra wolf, meaning that YOU ALONE are responsible for making this setup wolfsided. Think about that for a second.
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
LC said not to vote you then I did nothing can change naturealexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:44 pm @Dyslexicon @Gira @Esooa
Whether we win the game or lose the game is beside the argument. You choppingme, if you are a villager, is probably the worst single chop in the history of chops that I have ever seen, in my entire life, in 3 years, on MU, on TS, and I've been a host for 2 of them and played dozens. It is potentially one of the most anti-town actions I've laid my eyes on in my entire WW career. It is atrocious, dumbfounding, and inexcusable, and close to the border of gamethrowing. And sullies your entire effort to the game, so that your biggest contribution to the game is one in which you are literally indistinguishable to an outted wolf whose team has been decimated so far. Indeed, if you are a villager then wolves got an extra wolf, meaning that YOU ALONE are responsible for making this setup wolfsided. Think about that for a second.
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
i dont think that drwilgys posts are objectively towny but they are kinda towny through the lens of meta IMO - wilgy has made several posts that show a significantly higher level of confidence/assertiveness than anything he posted in the most recent wolfgame i saw from himalexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:41 pmzomg everyone's so towny
also his posts suck yet he has a lot of people townreading him for minor bad reasons which is >>>>rand wolf, and he hasn't answered my questioned about his dizzy read despite me pinging him multiple times
i dont think the reasons to townread him are "bad" even if he could still technically be a wolf
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
can you link me the recent wolf game, i asked this earlier and no one did and navigating this site kills me insidestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:47 pmi dont think that drwilgys posts are objectively towny but they are kinda towny through the lens of meta IMO - wilgy has made several posts that show a significantly higher level of confidence/assertiveness than anything he posted in the most recent wolfgame i saw from himalexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:41 pmzomg everyone's so towny
also his posts suck yet he has a lot of people townreading him for minor bad reasons which is >>>>rand wolf, and he hasn't answered my questioned about his dizzy read despite me pinging him multiple times
i dont think the reasons to townread him are "bad" even if he could still technically be a wolf
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
it's this game: viewtopic.php?t=2237alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:48 pmcan you link me the recent wolf game, i asked this earlier and no one did and navigating this site kills me insidestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:47 pmi dont think that drwilgys posts are objectively towny but they are kinda towny through the lens of meta IMO - wilgy has made several posts that show a significantly higher level of confidence/assertiveness than anything he posted in the most recent wolfgame i saw from himalexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:41 pmzomg everyone's so towny
also his posts suck yet he has a lot of people townreading him for minor bad reasons which is >>>>rand wolf, and he hasn't answered my questioned about his dizzy read despite me pinging him multiple times
i dont think the reasons to townread him are "bad" even if he could still technically be a wolf
but now im not even 100% sure that wilgy was a wolf in that game because i have goldfish memory
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
he was town there lmaostaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:51 pmit's this game: viewtopic.php?t=2237alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:48 pmcan you link me the recent wolf game, i asked this earlier and no one did and navigating this site kills me insidestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:47 pmi dont think that drwilgys posts are objectively towny but they are kinda towny through the lens of meta IMO - wilgy has made several posts that show a significantly higher level of confidence/assertiveness than anything he posted in the most recent wolfgame i saw from himalexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:41 pmzomg everyone's so towny
also his posts suck yet he has a lot of people townreading him for minor bad reasons which is >>>>rand wolf, and he hasn't answered my questioned about his dizzy read despite me pinging him multiple times
i dont think the reasons to townread him are "bad" even if he could still technically be a wolf
but now im not even 100% sure that wilgy was a wolf in that game because i have goldfish memory
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
He was town there.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:51 pmit's this game: viewtopic.php?t=2237alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:48 pmcan you link me the recent wolf game, i asked this earlier and no one did and navigating this site kills me insidestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:47 pmi dont think that drwilgys posts are objectively towny but they are kinda towny through the lens of meta IMO - wilgy has made several posts that show a significantly higher level of confidence/assertiveness than anything he posted in the most recent wolfgame i saw from himalexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:41 pmzomg everyone's so towny
also his posts suck yet he has a lot of people townreading him for minor bad reasons which is >>>>rand wolf, and he hasn't answered my questioned about his dizzy read despite me pinging him multiple times
i dont think the reasons to townread him are "bad" even if he could still technically be a wolf
but now im not even 100% sure that wilgy was a wolf in that game because i have goldfish memory
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2248
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
lmao nvm i think that i was confusing his wolf meta with his town meta. i have no idea how he posts as a wolf
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
can you link me to his iso directly there?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:52 pmHe was town there.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:51 pmit's this game: viewtopic.php?t=2237alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:48 pmcan you link me the recent wolf game, i asked this earlier and no one did and navigating this site kills me insidestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:47 pmi dont think that drwilgys posts are objectively towny but they are kinda towny through the lens of meta IMO - wilgy has made several posts that show a significantly higher level of confidence/assertiveness than anything he posted in the most recent wolfgame i saw from himalexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:41 pmzomg everyone's so towny
also his posts suck yet he has a lot of people townreading him for minor bad reasons which is >>>>rand wolf, and he hasn't answered my questioned about his dizzy read despite me pinging him multiple times
i dont think the reasons to townread him are "bad" even if he could still technically be a wolf
but now im not even 100% sure that wilgy was a wolf in that game because i have goldfish memory
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2248
There's most recent mafia game.
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
lmao well SPF/wilgy not W/W anyway
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/search.ph ... &start=100alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:54 pmcan you link me to his iso directly there?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:52 pmHe was town there.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:51 pmit's this game: viewtopic.php?t=2237alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:48 pmcan you link me the recent wolf game, i asked this earlier and no one did and navigating this site kills me insidestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:47 pmi dont think that drwilgys posts are objectively towny but they are kinda towny through the lens of meta IMO - wilgy has made several posts that show a significantly higher level of confidence/assertiveness than anything he posted in the most recent wolfgame i saw from him
i dont think the reasons to townread him are "bad" even if he could still technically be a wolf
but now im not even 100% sure that wilgy was a wolf in that game because i have goldfish memory
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2248
There's most recent mafia game.
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
has nanook made any good posts yet?
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
But what if you weren't trying to confuse your meta on him but confused your meta on him anyway?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:55 pmwhy not? i could reasonably confuse my meta on him regardless of whether or not im partnered with him
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i could be wrong i guess, the way you stumbled over it felt like dopey enough that i really doubt it's partneredstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:55 pmwhy not? i could reasonably confuse my meta on him regardless of whether or not im partnered with him
also you probably would just accept it if i was wrong :wowee:
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
well, the point is that me confusing my meta on wilgy has no bearing on whether or not we can be teamed, but it's a moot point anywayLime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:57 pmBut what if you weren't trying to confuse your meta on him but confused your meta on him anyway?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:55 pmwhy not? i could reasonably confuse my meta on him regardless of whether or not im partnered with him
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
uh ohNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:54 pmYou left me off your town list, im sure it was just an oversight
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
i just feel like if you were going to defend your wolf partner to me you would at least like, bother to care that the reasoning you were using was legit rather than linking a town game i guess
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
i thought you were saying uh oh to my list at first and was going to riotstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:00 amuh ohNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:54 pmYou left me off your town list, im sure it was just an oversight
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
That just gave me a meme defense to use for someone in the future.
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
lol nah i was just saying "uh oh" because it felt like a wolfy pop-in - nanook usually makes himself obvious town (and i know that he claimed that im not that good at reading him in the last game we played but i can only think of one time ive misread him in well over a dozen games at this point) and it seems like he's struggling to post, which could be indicative of him being a wolf. if he doesnt make towny posts by the EOD he's probably outedalexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:01 ami thought you were saying uh oh to my list at first and was going to riotstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:00 amuh ohNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:54 pmYou left me off your town list, im sure it was just an oversight
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
[VOTE:
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
how do you feel about my reasoning for ya'll not being W/W?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:03 amlol nah i was just saying "uh oh" because it felt like a wolfy pop-in - nanook usually makes himself obvious town (and i know that he claimed that im not that good at reading him in the last game we played but i can only think of one time ive misread him in well over a dozen games at this point) and it seems like he's struggling to post, which could be indicative of him being a wolf. if he doesnt make towny posts by the EOD he's probably outedalexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:01 ami thought you were saying uh oh to my list at first and was going to riotstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:00 amuh ohNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:54 pmYou left me off your town list, im sure it was just an oversight
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
lime coke, esooa, ilario, dyslexicon, fingersplints are my current townleans in order of confidence
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
i would maybe swap ilario and esooa actuallystaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:05 am lime coke, esooa, ilario, dyslexicon, fingersplints are my current townleans in order of confidence
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
....do you mean your reasoning for me and drwilgy not being W/W, or your reasoning for me/nanook not being W/W? i feel like you mean me/drwilgy but im not sure why you quoted that post about nanook in that casealexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:04 amhow do you feel about my reasoning for ya'll not being W/W?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:03 amlol nah i was just saying "uh oh" because it felt like a wolfy pop-in - nanook usually makes himself obvious town (and i know that he claimed that im not that good at reading him in the last game we played but i can only think of one time ive misread him in well over a dozen games at this point) and it seems like he's struggling to post, which could be indicative of him being a wolf. if he doesnt make towny posts by the EOD he's probably outedalexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:01 ami thought you were saying uh oh to my list at first and was going to riotstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:00 amuh ohNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:54 pmYou left me off your town list, im sure it was just an oversight
god ive had a long day lol
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
i meant you/wilgy, because you asked me about thatstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:06 am....do you mean your reasoning for me and drwilgy not being W/W, or your reasoning for me/nanook not being W/W? i feel like you mean me/drwilgy but im not sure why you quoted that post about nanook in that casealexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:04 amhow do you feel about my reasoning for ya'll not being W/W?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:03 amlol nah i was just saying "uh oh" because it felt like a wolfy pop-in - nanook usually makes himself obvious town (and i know that he claimed that im not that good at reading him in the last game we played but i can only think of one time ive misread him in well over a dozen games at this point) and it seems like he's struggling to post, which could be indicative of him being a wolf. if he doesnt make towny posts by the EOD he's probably outedalexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:01 ami thought you were saying uh oh to my list at first and was going to riotstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:00 amuh ohNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:54 pmYou left me off your town list, im sure it was just an oversight
god ive had a long day lol
i never said anything about you/nook
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
also how do you feel about you being in my POE? and about me in general? answer fast please @staypositivefriend
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
i mean, i think it's fair to say that i probably would pay more careful attention to making sure that my meta defenses are accurate if i was going out of my way to defend a partner. i do lie as mafia, but only if i think that im able to get away with it lolalexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:07 ami meant you/wilgy, because you asked me about thatstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:06 am....do you mean your reasoning for me and drwilgy not being W/W, or your reasoning for me/nanook not being W/W? i feel like you mean me/drwilgy but im not sure why you quoted that post about nanook in that casealexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:04 amhow do you feel about my reasoning for ya'll not being W/W?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:03 amlol nah i was just saying "uh oh" because it felt like a wolfy pop-in - nanook usually makes himself obvious town (and i know that he claimed that im not that good at reading him in the last game we played but i can only think of one time ive misread him in well over a dozen games at this point) and it seems like he's struggling to post, which could be indicative of him being a wolf. if he doesnt make towny posts by the EOD he's probably outedalexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:01 ami thought you were saying uh oh to my list at first and was going to riotstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:00 amuh ohNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:54 pm
You left me off your town list, im sure it was just an oversight
god ive had a long day lol
i never said anything about you/nook
i dont really think it has any bearing on your alignment though
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
[VOTE: SPF] auberginestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:09 ami mean, i think it's fair to say that i probably would pay more careful attention to making sure that my meta defenses are accurate if i was going out of my way to defend a partner. i do lie as mafia, but only if i think that im able to get away with it lolalexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:07 ami meant you/wilgy, because you asked me about thatstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:06 am....do you mean your reasoning for me and drwilgy not being W/W, or your reasoning for me/nanook not being W/W? i feel like you mean me/drwilgy but im not sure why you quoted that post about nanook in that casealexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:04 amhow do you feel about my reasoning for ya'll not being W/W?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:03 amlol nah i was just saying "uh oh" because it felt like a wolfy pop-in - nanook usually makes himself obvious town (and i know that he claimed that im not that good at reading him in the last game we played but i can only think of one time ive misread him in well over a dozen games at this point) and it seems like he's struggling to post, which could be indicative of him being a wolf. if he doesnt make towny posts by the EOD he's probably outed
god ive had a long day lol
i never said anything about you/nook
i dont really think it has any bearing on your alignment though
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
i think SPF having no take on me/not focusing on me really or considering stuff like that is wolfy.
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
i'm in your POE? i thought i was just "null" in the last readslist that you posted. i dont have an issue with you being suspicious of me on a surface level because i think that town!you could reasonably be paranoid about me and struggle to read me regardless of your alignment, but the way that youve approached reading me has pinged me a bit and made me more reluctant to townread you
the parallels that you drew between my play in this game vs my play in the vig 10er game had such easy rebuttals that i honestly felt like you were reading me dishonestly and going out of your way to frame my posts in a wolfy way, and you havent really made any observations or thoughts about my posts apart from that that make me think that youre genuinely trying to sort me
i think that you could be a wolf that's struggling to find a solid target to push on because of how stacked this playerlist is, which could explain why you (fmpov) lazily backed up lime's coke push on me instead of taking initiative to find a push for yourself, especially since you backed off of pushing me pretty much as soon as lime coke did
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
how does: "alexa's meta explanation for why me/wilgy aren't W/W doesn't have any bearing on her alignment" = "SPF does not have a take on alexa or is not considering stuff".....?
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
funnily enough that omgus vote was the towniest thing uve posted in this entire game lol
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
but I liked my spotstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:05 ami would maybe swap ilario and esooa actuallystaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:05 am lime coke, esooa, ilario, dyslexicon, fingersplints are my current townleans in order of confidence
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
u gotta work harder for it sorryEsooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:16 ambut I liked my spotstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:05 ami would maybe swap ilario and esooa actuallystaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:05 am lime coke, esooa, ilario, dyslexicon, fingersplints are my current townleans in order of confidence
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
ok so, i'm reading you dishonestly, but brad isn't? how does that make sense when we both saw the same thing? also you should open up your ISO side by side with 16/10er here because it's literally fucking laughable how similar it is, and if you're a villager you should see why i thought thisstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:13 ami'm in your POE? i thought i was just "null" in the last readslist that you posted. i dont have an issue with you being suspicious of me on a surface level because i think that town!you could reasonably be paranoid about me and struggle to read me regardless of your alignment, but the way that youve approached reading me has pinged me a bit and made me more reluctant to townread you
the parallels that you drew between my play in this game vs my play in the vig 10er game had such easy rebuttals that i honestly felt like you were reading me dishonestly and going out of your way to frame my posts in a wolfy way, and you havent really made any observations or thoughts about my posts apart from that that make me think that youre genuinely trying to sort me
i think that you could be a wolf that's struggling to find a solid target to push on because of how stacked this playerlist is, which could explain why you (fmpov) lazily backed up lime's coke push on me instead of taking initiative to find a push for yourself, especially since you backed off of pushing me pretty much as soon as lime coke did
also that's fucking bullshit to say it's lazy considering i literally went into your 16/8er game and actually tried my best to scrutinize that stuff, and i'm pretty sure w!me would have no difficulty in finding a push, i've gotten "hard" pushes MLed as wolf, and i was part of the reason lime coke backed off, i wasn't supporting it much and saying it was in your town range?
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
why put big thought into game when small though work
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
you haven't seemed to have any care about my read on you at all, or about your read on me (i mean, this part i'd expect more/i'd expect you to ignore me and maybe not townread me) - so specifically you avoiding caring about how i read you feels the worse, i literally was writing notes in a doc on how i thought you'd approach me if you randed wolf and that was one of them, whereas you don't avoid me whatsoever as town (even if you don't out a read on me, you care about how i read you) so it felt so pingy to mestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:13 amhow does: "alexa's meta explanation for why me/wilgy aren't W/W doesn't have any bearing on her alignment" = "SPF does not have a take on alexa or is not considering stuff".....?
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
the difference is that brad actually took the initiative to confidently voice his thoughts on me and make a "case" on me, and some of his points are reasonable even if his overall meta comparisons arent entirely accuratealexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:18 amok so, i'm reading you dishonestly, but brad isn't? how does that make sense when we both saw the same thing? also you should open up your ISO side by side with 16/10er here because it's literally fucking laughable how similar it is, and if you're a villager you should see why i thought thisstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:13 ami'm in your POE? i thought i was just "null" in the last readslist that you posted. i dont have an issue with you being suspicious of me on a surface level because i think that town!you could reasonably be paranoid about me and struggle to read me regardless of your alignment, but the way that youve approached reading me has pinged me a bit and made me more reluctant to townread you
the parallels that you drew between my play in this game vs my play in the vig 10er game had such easy rebuttals that i honestly felt like you were reading me dishonestly and going out of your way to frame my posts in a wolfy way, and you havent really made any observations or thoughts about my posts apart from that that make me think that youre genuinely trying to sort me
i think that you could be a wolf that's struggling to find a solid target to push on because of how stacked this playerlist is, which could explain why you (fmpov) lazily backed up lime's coke push on me instead of taking initiative to find a push for yourself, especially since you backed off of pushing me pretty much as soon as lime coke did
also that's fucking bullshit to say it's lazy considering i literally went into your 16/8er game and actually tried my best to scrutinize that stuff, and i'm pretty sure w!me would have no difficulty in finding a push, i've gotten "hard" pushes MLed as wolf, and i was part of the reason lime coke backed off, i wasn't supporting it much and saying it was in your town range?
on the other hand, you quoted a post from the 16/10er game where i said that i "feel like i should have more reads than i do", and then used that as an example of how i was playing similarly in this game, even though i had opened the 16/10er by posting a wolfcase on another player. i dont think it's impossible for you to skim my posts in both games and get overzealous, but come on. i feel like you should be able to acknowledge that that wasnt an entirely fair comparison
the only other comparison you made was when you said i did the "exact same thing" with esooa two games in a row even though the contexts were entirely different, and you outright conceded that point here:
so honestly, how can you look at the comparisons you drew and then say "it's fucking laughable how similar the games are"? like, lol? are we living in the same reality? so yeah, i do think your approach to reading me has been significantly lazier and significantly less critical to brad's approach to reading me, and i dont really like that it feels like youre trying to deflect from the point by saying: "but brad did that too!"alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:09 pmmaybestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:57 pm? even if i'm a wolf in this game, it wouldn't be "the same two things", because i had specific reasoning for voting esooa in this game, but my reasoning for voting esooa in the wolfgame was a meme vote to get her attention and make it look like i was genuinely trying to "solve" heralexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:07 pm 16/8er continued:
>Thinks she probably shouldn't find [a villager's] attitude towny but she does
>Says her #1 wolftell is handling TMI poorly
>Votes Esooa (a villager) randomly/out of nowhere
staypositivefriend;5426903 wrote:[V]Esooa[/V]
uwu
LMAO IM LAUGHING IF SHE'S SCUM AND LITERALLY DID THE SAME TWO THINGS HERE RIGHT AWAY, that almost seems too easy
if SPF is scum, Esooa is even harder town though.
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
oh mac posting reminds me that he's a townlean of mine too, i think
Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
right now i'm pretending i'm not going to sheep mac onto him at deadline
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]
how does me voting you out of frustration from you wolfreading me = me not caring about your read on me at all? the fact that im having this conversation with you right now in the first place should prove that im genuinely interested in hearing your perspective and that im genuinely interested in finding you if you are actually townalexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:25 amyou haven't seemed to have any care about my read on you at all, or about your read on me (i mean, this part i'd expect more/i'd expect you to ignore me and maybe not townread me) - so specifically you avoiding caring about how i read you feels the worse, i literally was writing notes in a doc on how i thought you'd approach me if you randed wolf and that was one of them, whereas you don't avoid me whatsoever as town (even if you don't out a read on me, you care about how i read you) so it felt so pingy to mestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:13 amhow does: "alexa's meta explanation for why me/wilgy aren't W/W doesn't have any bearing on her alignment" = "SPF does not have a take on alexa or is not considering stuff".....?
my bone to pick with you in this game is just that your description of how im playing doesnt actually align with my posts - i outright voted you because i thought your read on me was so scummy and it's clearly influencing my ability to read you now too, so how can you claim that im avoiding you or that i dont care?