Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]

[MacDougall]

nothing surprising to be had this day I guess

nah I'm trying to solve with you let's go

I'm reading posts

read lime coke's

[alexa]

[VOTE: Esooa] aubergine

[Esooa]

nothing surprising to be had this day I guess

nah I'm trying to solve with you let's go

I'm reading posts

read lime coke's

After SPF. I already know my LC thoughts which was that he had one good point, probably good enough for today, and that was his SPF push. The rest of what he's been doing is just posting reads lists with no other words so shrug, I don't remember how he treated Wilgy either though

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: alexa] aubergine

[alexa]

I don't think v!Esooa ever goes here, she's seen me play enough to know that's now how I treat partners and can die 10/10 times despite my earlier thoughts, think the emotion stuff is very easily in her scumrange anyway

[alexa]

[VOTE: alexa] aubergine

Towny

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: alexa] aubergine

You were literally just strong townreading her.

[Esooa]

I don't think v!Esooa ever goes here, she's seen me play enough to know that's now how I treat partners and can die 10/10 times despite my earlier thoughts, think the emotion stuff is very easily in her scumrange anyway

yea yea yea I know, talking about reads is criminal. Lucky for you I'm moving on to SPF

[alexa]

Not* how

Esooa is a wolf this is how she treats me as a wolf

Kill me idc lmfao I am very confident on this

[Esooa]

wah Alexa is misreading me AS WE SPEAK so she's a wolf

[alexa]

Esooa is openwolfing because she has no pushes

[Esooa]

Esooa is openwolfing because she has no pushes

You're an easy one queen, get in to an omgus fight like this, pull up a few more posts that I can call wolfy, fight back and forth, but you don't care about talking about things so who yells loudest, talks smoothest wins... I can do both of those

[alexa]

Brad what is my post count I'm on my phone ;-;

[Esooa]

tbh im reading through the game right now and barely any posts are coming off as alignment indicative

im not sure if it's just a me thing or if people just arent really alignment telling

Think this is towny mostly because it's accurate thoughts to the game state at the time, at least as I saw it. Lots of doing not much, stuff like Dizzy saying "zomg everyone's so towny." True I suppose, but still, the feeling was that nothing was being done that mattered and SPF was just like "This doesn't really matter" lol

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: alexa] aubergine

You were literally just strong townreading her.

yeah well now I'm not

[MacDougall]

Brad what is my post count I'm on my phone ;-;

you can go back to the thread index and click on the number of replies and it'll bring up not just that but also links to isos

[Esooa]

ftr I don't actually endorse Alexa votes atm

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yeah who would want to deal with a gamestate where mafia is going over

[MacDougall]

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewforum.php?f=100

this page

[alexa]

[VOTE: alexa] aubergine

You were literally just strong townreading her.

yeah well now I'm not

[Esooa]

ok there's a chance this is an awful read but brad increasing the font size and bolding a line he previously wrote as mafia to say jokingly that he's town here may be town indicative

i don't really care about this that much because i'll prob have a solid read on him outside of microtells by EOD anyway but

vibes

It was just copy/pasta I decided to use.

You know how to read me anyways so you'll find me town for other reasons that are correct.

this is probably the closest thing i got to a ping, because i felt like lime coke was talking to alexa in this post like he already knew that she was town. i know that LC tends to be pretty trusting of alexa regardless of her alignment, but i would expect his attitude toward her at the beginning of the game to be a little bit more cynical/suspicious

I had the same thought about LC. She posted later it's not scummy to have think it's weird he's doing stuff as he does them always, while saying he's going to not do it as much. I agree with that and had the same thought, and I think slightly that having a natural game-to-game progression like this is more likely as town, where rather as a wolf you'd probably see something rehashed previously. Coming up with new thoughts is harder as a wolf and you recycle the old stuff kinda thing. The more important thing here probably is just that I think it's towny she posted thoughts I found agreeable about things she cared about, in that I don't really think she's trying to make things up to try and look more solvy or towny, like a wolf

[Dolby]

hi im mafia and gay

i don't think w!spf could write this

i don't think w!alexa could write this

I feel like this sort of interaction is loosely non-w/w with Alexa, when it does happen as w/w I typically see it in super big games as a delibrate scum circlejerk (ex: Hydra Mash D1 where I townread like 3 scum with the reasoning of "there's no way this is all wolves just circlejerking togehter right?")

Dizzy is a Wolf.

ok

Dizzy is a Wolf.

why?

ok yeah sure I'll just call Alexa town waynaut

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

can this cat be any more town?

loool Alexa had to vote the singular person who hasn't done much towny that I didn't list

but Wilgy was comfortable during memeing so he's town

I feel like this type of clarification on a scum slot is something that is unlikely to come from w/w, ignoring the fact that Esooa is raising Wilgy for bad reasons. You aren't aimming to change minds but you're raising him in your reads list when you already have room enough to not vote him when it comes to it rn. It's pretty unproductive for her interests if w and just calls attention to her

but Wilgy was comfortable during memeing so he's town

looks like he's just posting a bunch of BS so far that's very easy for a wolf to post

he knows how to towntell as town and i doubt he'd be uncomfortable as wolf so

idk what Alexa did later in day, but I feel like if she's wolf she decided to just bus Wilgy super early and idk if that's in her meta or not but yeah I just see Alexa town posts here. Maybe she could have expected Wilgy to have better posts later and planned to retract that but the fact that the wagon wasn't even close is enough to make me think that isn't the world

but Wilgy was comfortable during memeing so he's town

looks like he's just posting a bunch of BS so far that's very easy for a wolf to post

he knows how to towntell as town and i doubt he'd be uncomfortable as wolf so

same with LC and nanook tho

eh I don't like this when I know that Wilgy was w. i think why is obvious

Tbh I kinda feel like Dizzy isn't meeting my expectations for him but I like wolfed with him once and towned against him once (I don't count the MafCafe games since I slanked them so hard), but idk shrug

Un-ironically scum read Mac lol

He...had no posts?

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Esooa + Wilgy probs town

Talk to me about this. Dizzy vote good take.

Esooa + Me town, porque?

I kinda don't think that Wilgy questions a townread on him and his teammate as much as he does him and a townie but idk

I am 99.9% certain wilgy is town

lol Esooa

I don't know if Dizzy is all that wolfy, but I was pinged by the fact that this game they are seemingly here and participatory more than in other town games I've seen from them, while trying to say that they will be ML bait this game. I'd figure a towny posting and doing more things than how I remember them, would be less inclined to think that, while a wolf trying to post what they do as town would

ok I take back that one thing I said about Dizzy but the Mac sus I think sucks still

tbh im reading through the game right now and barely any posts are coming off as alignment indicative

im not sure if it's just a me thing or if people just arent really alignment telling

very relatable

after some cursory research i have decided fingersplints is all right so far, enough for a town lean

I have no idea why you're doing this and kinda want more tbh

wilgy hasn't explained a single read and has literally just been posting nonsense, what the heck is villagery? alison's content has been good and i've agreed with most of it

1. i don't care if someone is explaining their reads early or not and there is at least some sense what he is doing is being prompted by events in the thread. having ~some sense of how he plays it's towny enough

2. second part is a deflection, i chastised you specifically for calling her villagery off a very limited number of posts and you have broadened the scope to talking about her content in general rather than addressing the idea that you were calling someone town off content that was not particularly AI

I don't feel like he had a sense of what he was doing tbh

eh, Mac mentioned Wilgy enough when he first entered the thread that I'm calling him town

Soooooo

Town:
Alexa
Esooa
Mac
Illario

Mafia:
SPF

[VOTE: StayPositiveFriend] aubergine

The townreads are good at least

I was considering adding Alison to the townlist but I'm hesitating on that.

tbh I want to townread Lime Coke for townreading 4 people who are town + Esooa who I do think can be town

changes if Esooa w

I think my only source of concern is that his reads might not contain any mafia, like, there's a world where all 5 people mentioned are twon

something something Alexa a v for consistently pushing wilgy, re-ev at F3

after some cursory research i have decided fingersplints is all right so far, enough for a town lean

Lmao what research was done?

super weak but maybe not w/w

this is like

the one game related thing from anyone else that he's chosen to press so far unprompted

The way that LC handles his SPF read I think comes from town way more than mafia

I don't want to read any more I'm stopping at 500

[alexa]

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewforum.php?f=100

this page

Ok but that doesn't let me know how many posts I have this phase cuz it got lifted. But thank you!

[Esooa]

the 99.9% town thing was a meme ftr

[Dolby]

I think my confident reads are Alexa, Mac, and LC are likely town, I was feeling badish about Gira but then I felt that Wilgy didn't interact with them like a teammate at one point and am not feeling best about dizzy and esooa

also kinda weird that Alexa is still alive but w/e

[Dolby]

the 99.9% town thing was a meme ftr

I was tempted to find it in the MU copypasta thread

[MacDougall]

Here's the rub

Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.

Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.

Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I think my confident reads are Alexa, Mac, and LC are likely town, I was feeling badish about Gira but then I felt that Wilgy didn't interact with them like a teammate at one point and am not feeling best about dizzy and esooa

also kinda weird that Alexa is still alive but w/e

Hi

[Esooa]

Here's the rub

Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.

Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.

Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.

See, it is not hard to change minds, I didn't even do anything deserving of this, because probably Alexa and LC have played more towny than me

I think from my foggy memory that Falcon is most likely, but maybe your not w/w read is right, it's kinda an off one though. Fingers could still be it, and I don't think Alexa bussed so hard.

[alexa]

I think my confident reads are Alexa, Mac, and LC are likely town, I was feeling badish about Gira but then I felt that Wilgy didn't interact with them like a teammate at one point and am not feeling best about dizzy and esooa

also kinda weird that Alexa is still alive but w/e

Lmfao how is it weird I'm alive on d2

Am I that iconic

[Esooa]

Dolby's post is wolfy imo btw

[Dolby]

Here's the rub

Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.

Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.

Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.

I know this isn't serious but I feel obligated to say that this doesn't match the timeline of Alexa's starting scumread of Wilgy relative to when you and Nanook did but I haven't read past 500

[Dolby]

I think my confident reads are Alexa, Mac, and LC are likely town, I was feeling badish about Gira but then I felt that Wilgy didn't interact with them like a teammate at one point and am not feeling best about dizzy and esooa

also kinda weird that Alexa is still alive but w/e

Lmfao how is it weird I'm alive on d2

Am I that iconic

nah I think you're by far the most obvtown from the first 500 while Illario just had some good looks that didn't really stand out to me that much

[alexa]

The Gira/Wilgy not W/W stuff I've seen is extremely weak and I disagree with all of it

[VOTE: Gira] aubergine

[Dolby]

Dolby's post is wolfy imo btw

I'm sorry my fourth post wasn't "Dolby (4)"

[Lime Coke]

@alexa

116 left.

[MacDougall]

Here's the rub

Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.

Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.

Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.

I know this isn't serious but I feel obligated to say that this doesn't match the timeline of Alexa's starting scumread of Wilgy relative to when you and Nanook did but I haven't read past 500

I didn't speak to timings.

[Esooa]

i tend to be suspicious of people with perspectives that i can't understand. i felt frustrated reading the first 2 pages because of how bland and NAI everything was coming off to me, and you making a post with 4 townreads in such a null threadstate felt like a potential indication that the reason youre not struggling to make reads is because you have TMI

If it's any consolation, I've already tossed those reads out, and I agree that things have been bland.

When Alison pushed Gira, I had half a thought that she did it on purpose to pressure Gira specifically, because Gira is pressure-able (cross referenced in my mind with a different game). And if Alison did that on purpose, it's towny for her. But I'm less convinced it was strategic, and probably just a genuine push. I mean, could be both of course. But why am I even making assumptions about it.

Explaining my thoughts are kind of blah right now, cause I don't feel all that enthused tbh, so it's a lot of maybe this maybe that.

okay i changed my mind, i think that you might be town now but im struggling to explain why i find this post towny because i am also unenthused and my brain is tired

i think it's mostly because the explanation in this post is a little sloppy/thrown together whereas i recall that dizzy's posts in the wolfgames ive seen from him are a lot Fancier and well-thought out, particularly if he's being interrogated by another person

This read, especially while saying she's tired and struggled to explain it more, which would be very coy if wolfing, is towny imo. I think making this kinda read based on the more difficult to ascertain tone of a post comes from paying genuine attention to the post

[Dolby]

I think my confident reads are Alexa, Mac, and LC are likely town, I was feeling badish about Gira but then I felt that Wilgy didn't interact with them like a teammate at one point and am not feeling best about dizzy and esooa

also kinda weird that Alexa is still alive but w/e

Hi

Hi nanook

[alexa]

I think my confident reads are Alexa, Mac, and LC are likely town, I was feeling badish about Gira but then I felt that Wilgy didn't interact with them like a teammate at one point and am not feeling best about dizzy and esooa

also kinda weird that Alexa is still alive but w/e

Lmfao how is it weird I'm alive on d2

Am I that iconic

nah I think you're by far the most obvtown from the first 500 while Illario just had some good looks that didn't really stand out to me that much

Too bad you weren't here yesterday then when I wasn't obvtown to most people

[MacDougall]

Here's the rub

Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.

Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.

Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.

I know this isn't serious but I feel obligated to say that this doesn't match the timeline of Alexa's starting scumread of Wilgy relative to when you and Nanook did but I haven't read past 500

also I'm definitely serious... what makes you think otherwise?

[Esooa]

i tend to be suspicious of people with perspectives that i can't understand. i felt frustrated reading the first 2 pages because of how bland and NAI everything was coming off to me, and you making a post with 4 townreads in such a null threadstate felt like a potential indication that the reason youre not struggling to make reads is because you have TMI

If it's any consolation, I've already tossed those reads out, and I agree that things have been bland.

When Alison pushed Gira, I had half a thought that she did it on purpose to pressure Gira specifically, because Gira is pressure-able (cross referenced in my mind with a different game). And if Alison did that on purpose, it's towny for her. But I'm less convinced it was strategic, and probably just a genuine push. I mean, could be both of course. But why am I even making assumptions about it.

Explaining my thoughts are kind of blah right now, cause I don't feel all that enthused tbh, so it's a lot of maybe this maybe that.

okay i changed my mind, i think that you might be town now but im struggling to explain why i find this post towny because i am also unenthused and my brain is tired

i think it's mostly because the explanation in this post is a little sloppy/thrown together whereas i recall that dizzy's posts in the wolfgames ive seen from him are a lot Fancier and well-thought out, particularly if he's being interrogated by another person

Honestly this is kinda hilarious because I do think it's a huge brain move to town read your partner for being more towny as a wolf in the town game you're mistaking as a wolf game. That is crazy to do as a wolf. I dunno if I want to read into this though lol

[Dolby]

Here's the rub

Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.

Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.

Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.

I know this isn't serious but I feel obligated to say that this doesn't match the timeline of Alexa's starting scumread of Wilgy relative to when you and Nanook did but I haven't read past 500

I didn't speak to timings.

basically what I'm saying is

I feel like Alexa kinda trapped herself on Wilgy before you two made Wilgy always going to be a top 2 wagon about EoD

[MacDougall]

I think my confident reads are Alexa, Mac, and LC are likely town, I was feeling badish about Gira but then I felt that Wilgy didn't interact with them like a teammate at one point and am not feeling best about dizzy and esooa

also kinda weird that Alexa is still alive but w/e

Lmfao how is it weird I'm alive on d2

Am I that iconic

nah I think you're by far the most obvtown from the first 500 while Illario just had some good looks that didn't really stand out to me that much

Too bad you weren't here yesterday then when I wasn't obvtown to most people

yeah too bad ... we might have chopped a mafia

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I think my confident reads are Alexa, Mac, and LC are likely town, I was feeling badish about Gira but then I felt that Wilgy didn't interact with them like a teammate at one point and am not feeling best about dizzy and esooa

also kinda weird that Alexa is still alive but w/e

Hi

Hi nanook

I should be your top townread

[MacDougall]

Here's the rub

Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.

Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.

Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.

I know this isn't serious but I feel obligated to say that this doesn't match the timeline of Alexa's starting scumread of Wilgy relative to when you and Nanook did but I haven't read past 500

I didn't speak to timings.

basically what I'm saying is

I feel like Alexa kinda trapped herself on Wilgy before you two made Wilgy always going to be a top 2 wagon about EoD

thats literally what I'm saying

[alexa]

Dolby is mafia and his partners killed illario when he is salty they didn't kill me

[fingersplints]

also think gira and falcon are town

goes without saying nanook, Lime Coke are town

alexa is just an f3 tinfoil

it's literally just esooa and fingersplints

It’s literally not

Who are you going to go after when you flip me and I’m revealed as town?

Yea I was wrong about Wilgy. Recent games show I can’t read them for shit. But as someone pointed out and compared to Fargo this is very obviously not my wolf game.

Mac’s going to push me til I’m gone, and I don’t have the time or energy to fight it on Christmas
Day. So be it. Just don’t spend all day planning who you all are voting “when I flip red” because that shit isn’t happening

[Lime Coke]

Here's the rub

Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.

Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.

Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.

How serious is this read?

[Esooa]

ok there's a chance this is an awful read but brad increasing the font size and bolding a line he previously wrote as mafia to say jokingly that he's town here may be town indicative

i don't really care about this that much because i'll prob have a solid read on him outside of microtells by EOD anyway but

vibes

It was just copy/pasta I decided to use.

You know how to read me anyways so you'll find me town for other reasons that are correct.

this is probably the closest thing i got to a ping, because i felt like lime coke was talking to alexa in this post like he already knew that she was town. i know that LC tends to be pretty trusting of alexa regardless of her alignment, but i would expect his attitude toward her at the beginning of the game to be a little bit more cynical/suspicious

Why though? Have you ever seen him be cynical/sus early on towards her?

no, i just assumed that he would be more naturally paranoid of alexa in this game cause of how much of a big deal people have made about him getting pocketed by her in the past, which is why a post that came off as trustful of alexa on page 1 felt off to me

[VOTE: esooa] aubergine

why this

i feel like you are trying to project towniness harder than the recent towngames ive seen from you, and the post that u made about me when i first started posting felt a little pockety so im voting u and seeing what happens

Talked about the LC one before, but the one on me too I think is a valid thing to think even if not entirely accurate. Looks like a moving view of the world, coming up with things about the game.