GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[Creature]

NAA dropped plenty of signs it was a fake red check tbh

[LinearPoint]

Wait when did Ender become top lynch?

Sheeping Alison.

Also Nutella/Mac/Alison are hard town.

Belzy/ilario are soft town.

One of Ender's lasts posts was saing Alison was town, so how is Ender scum for sheeping the Alison lynch?

[nutella]

ok this is pointless to fight over. just policy NAA, he's probably mafia and if he's town he will lose us the game + it's what alison wanted

i just disagree but i don't really have a strong opinion on who *to* chop today. i don't have a confident hit elsewhere but i don't think it should be him

[TonyStarkPrime]

Wait when did Ender become top lynch?

Sheeping Alison.

Also Nutella/Mac/Alison are hard town.

Belzy/ilario are soft town.

One of Ender's lasts posts was saing Alison was town, so how is Ender scum for sheeping the Alison lynch?

How is your reading comprehension this poor

[falcon45ca]

Why not go for like lhf or someone we were gonna shoot anyway though

It's pointless to moan about this now

We need to find the wolves urgently

Check out that enthusiasm

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

It's not enthusiasm it's desperation

It's D1, we don't need to be desperate.



I find these Chicken Little type of thoughts often come from Maf. See Mac's "town is doooooooomed" mentality from Mafia Normal game

[NotAnAxehole]

Wait when did Ender become top lynch?

Sheeping Alison.

Also Nutella/Mac/Alison are hard town.

Belzy/ilario are soft town.

One of Ender's lasts posts was saing Alison was town, so how is Ender scum for sheeping the Alison lynch?

Alison was voting Ender, I am voting Ender.

[TonyStarkPrime]

This wagon composition /always/ yeets a wolf

[TonyStarkPrime]

Why not go for like lhf or someone we were gonna shoot anyway though

It's pointless to moan about this now

We need to find the wolves urgently

Check out that enthusiasm

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

It's not enthusiasm it's desperation

It's D1, we don't need to be desperate.



I find these Chicken Little type of thoughts often come from Maf. See Mac's "town is doooooooomed" mentality from Mafia Normal game

If creature weren’t being doomer from like the first town flip he’d have made the policy list

[alexa]

One thing I'll say, in hindsight, Nutella is right - my pick was bad. My mistake was assuming Alexa wouldn't shoot Alison.

It makes no sense you assumed she wouldn't shoot. Alexa was very clear that's what she was going to do if you didn't rescind

And the deadline she gave passed with no shot. Alexa shot as soon as Alison started posting, which was the last thing I would have expected.

OK, what kind of timeline are we talking here "passed w/ no shot"?


I mean, there's bound to be some delay as the action gets processed by the Host. Also, assuming she wasn't going to shoot implies you had this assumption leading up to her deadline, and that it wasn't based off her being late on the shot.


You assuming she wasn't going to shoot...like, I don't see how she could've made it anymore clear that's what she was going to do.


I'm not convinced you make this play as Maf, but I will not be shocked if you get VKd for it

Alison starting to post + agreeing it was the right thing to do + him still not rescinding is exactly why. But, regardless, when it got to 2:55 and he didn't rescind, I was always gonna shoot her.

[Phil and Gloria]

Lol 67 pages haha

[alexa]

NAA dropped plenty of signs it was a fake red check tbh

then why tf did no one else tell me not to shoot?

[falcon45ca]

Shooty mcshooty face, put Alison in their place!

@NANOOKTHECONQUEROR
@dunya
@juliets

This is purely on mech.

how funny would it be if Alison is actually the gambit demon

Good soup...

lol


idk whats gonna happen gl

A shot was fired!

@Alison has died and flips TOWN! They reveal as:

Ra’s al Ghul

You are a JOAT! You have three different one shot abilities:

1x tracker: target a player at night and learn who they visit, if anyone.
1x vanilla cop: target a player at night and learn if they are vanilla or not (goon will also scan as vanilla)
1x loyal poison: target a player at night to poison them. The player poisoned will be announced at SOD. If they are town, they will die at EOD. If they are mafia, they will not die at EOD.

Day continues!

Spoiler: show

@ 112
@ alexa
@ Belzy
@ c4e5g3d5
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ dyachei
@ Dyslexicon
@ EnderWiggin
@ falcon45ca
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ ilario
@ Justplayingitcool
@ LinearPoint
@ Master Radishes
@ NotAnAxehole
@ nutella
@ Paopan
@ Phil and Gloria
@ Porscha
@ sabie12
@ Seanzie
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ TonyStarkPrime
@ Urist

Here's some food for thought

112 is in wolf range

[VOTE: 112] aubergine
*sheep noises*

That was glaringly fake

Not to shit talk but that was glaringly fake and I thought you were just trying to scare Axe into shutting up so I didn't interfere

okay so you ARE a wolf with tmi, cool

@ilario yeah, i figured it out o/\o

tbh I was wondering if it was fake too

Here's some food for thought

112 is in wolf range

I am always in wolf range.

My vote on Axhole is pretty much locked in now.

A shot was fired!

@Alison has died and flips TOWN! They reveal as:



Day continues!

Spoiler: show

@ 112
@ alexa
@ Belzy
@ c4e5g3d5
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ dyachei
@ Dyslexicon
@ EnderWiggin
@ falcon45ca
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ ilario
@ Justplayingitcool
@ LinearPoint
@ Master Radishes
@ NotAnAxehole
@ nutella
@ Paopan
@ Phil and Gloria
@ Porscha
@ sabie12
@ Seanzie
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ TonyStarkPrime
@ Urist

FUCK

OK DIE NAA

HOW THE HECK WAS THAT GLARINGLY FAKE?

Because I said repeatedly don't shoot, I wanted Alison to make day 2 and I was mechanically locked into a corner until Alison did something.

But..... you gonna explain the red check or nah

I'll do my best ... But I literally cannot.

I think I have to rescind my red check on Alison.

I have a red check, and I'll tell you who it's on shortly.

LMAO

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

Okay so he's claiming he's required to fake redchecks

are we in a secret bastard game

So NAA has a post restriction, Neeko understands.
Also Neeko caught up, but needs to go back and find the post that stood out to her.

Side note, 112's read on Neeko is weird in her opinion. Town leaning Neeko for RPing has nothing to do with her alignment.

I mean I guess I can agree that when wilgy is town and participating he does at least have reads. This game so far he has said he planned to find townies to join and his only read was everyone should vote sig when sig hasn't participated. Also marmot did the joke with wilgys intro thing. I would be interested to hear if wilgy has any other thoughts on the game or just continues to not be involved.

Neeko wanted to comment on this to say not to shoot Wiggly, but Wiggly wasn't shot so whatevs, she's still doing to comment though.
Wiggly didn't ever post reads in Team Fortress Mafia as Town, so this is just wrong characteristic of Town Wiggly in Neeko's opinion (granted she had 1 game with Town Wiggly).

Many people also said to shoot wiggly for asking to be shot, but Wiggly seems the kind of person to do that as any alignment and even if it was AI Neeko thinks scum are too scared to ask to be shot.

Sadly I still think NAA is a villager

won't be annoyed if you kill him though

Honestly WCS NAA is probably 3rd Party with the wincon to get Alison lynched, and that's why he panicked at seeing Alison about to get shot.
but NAA doesn't really stand out as super Mafia or super Town either way and if the post restriction is real it's probably Town (granted Mafia can easily fake is to no way to tell really).
Ultimately neeko thinks its on Alexa for shooting more than NAA.

Why not go for like lhf or someone we were gonna shoot anyway though

It's pointless to moan about this now

We need to find the wolves urgently

Check out that enthusiasm

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Pop pop pop pop

Possible wolf pop-ins

Possible town pop ins.


You give no context as to who and why...it's literally just players who've posted.



This just seems like surface level solving

[NotAnAxehole]

NAA dropped plenty of signs it was a fake red check tbh

then why tf did no one else tell me not to shoot?

People were saying fake left and right. Go back and read.

[Phil and Gloria]

Can’t wait to color everyone on my vote chart like a kindergartner

[falcon45ca]

Lol 67 pages haha

Alison flipped town, after NAA faked a red check and Alexa shot her.


That's the big news as of late.

[NotAnAxehole]

The falcon check is real though.

I also recommend not killing them today.

[Creature]

NAA dropped plenty of signs it was a fake red check tbh

then why tf did no one else tell me not to shoot?

I wasn't sure what to do at the time but I think the "don't shoot" warnings should have sufficed.

[alexa]

NAA dropped plenty of signs it was a fake red check tbh

then why tf did no one else tell me not to shoot?

People were saying fake left and right. Go back and read.

i'm not going to comment on this anymore because it's bad for my blood pressure

[TonyStarkPrime]

NAA dropped plenty of signs it was a fake red check tbh

then why tf did no one else tell me not to shoot?

I /did/

[TonyStarkPrime]

Multiple times and somehow I wasn’t even here

[Creature]

Can’t wait to color everyone on my vote chart like a kindergartner

You will run out of green crayon

[falcon45ca]

The falcon check is real though.

I also recommend not killing them today.

If your check is anything but green, you're either Maf or getting shit info yo

[Creature]

The falcon check is real though.

lol I wish

[falcon45ca]

My slot will self resolve btw.

[alexa]

NAA dropped plenty of signs it was a fake red check tbh

then why tf did no one else tell me not to shoot?

I /did/

no one said "don't shoot Alison" besides NAA. but NAA was saying it + also hard claim never rescinding a red check. There is no reason for me not to shoot a hardclaimed red check. And when I said "i'm shooting her unless you rescind the red check" by 2:55, he still didn't rescind.

[falcon45ca]

The falcon check is real though.

lol I wish

So you're TR me?

[Creature]

The falcon check is real though.

I also recommend not killing them today.

If your check is anything but green, you're either Maf or getting shit info yo

Pretty sure NAA is forced to fake red check

[Creature]

The falcon check is real though.

lol I wish

So you're TR me?

Nah, just that despite the red check being clearly fake I thought you had some wolf equity

[alexa]

The falcon check is real though.

I also recommend not killing them today.

If your check is anything but green, you're either Maf or getting shit info yo

Pretty sure NAA is forced to fake red check

if that's the case then idk why tf he does it on alison. also just feels like a convenient excuse

[Creature]

The falcon check is real though.

I also recommend not killing them today.

If your check is anything but green, you're either Maf or getting shit info yo

Pretty sure NAA is forced to fake red check

if that's the case then idk why tf he does it on alison. also just feels like a convenient excuse

I have an idea why he'd chose Alison but I think that's more up to him to explain

[TonyStarkPrime]

don't do nonsense

I’m sorry that this was not more explicit I will work on the explicitness of telling you not to kill the person Who had obviously been fake redded next time

[TonyStarkPrime]

He didn’t think anyone would actually shoot Alison given he was saying don’t shoot Alison which tbh should have been reasonable

[NotAnAxehole]

I already largely explained why I picked Alison.

Also, regardless of that... I'm not really one to consider individual skill when picking targets.

[falcon45ca]

The falcon check is real though.

I also recommend not killing them today.

If your check is anything but green, you're either Maf or getting shit info yo

Pretty sure NAA is forced to fake red check

Forced? How so?



If my role forces me to fake red checks...under penalty of what? Modkill?


Well, then I'd let myself get modkilled. Faked red checks get Town killed

[alexa]

He didn’t think anyone would actually shoot Alison given he was saying don’t shoot Alison which tbh should have been reasonable

for the last time, that's not reasonable considering i replied to him saying i would shoot her by 2:55 if he didn't rescind and he didn't rescind

i will not comment on it further

[Creature]

ftr I don't want to make alexa even more guilt and I'm talking about the red check thing more as a defense of NAA because he told to not shoot so I don't think he's making the excuse just after Alison died

[alexa]

The falcon check is real though.

I also recommend not killing them today.

If your check is anything but green, you're either Maf or getting shit info yo

Pretty sure NAA is forced to fake red check

Forced? How so?



If my role forces me to fake red checks...under penalty of what? Modkill?


Well, then I'd let myself get modkilled. Faked red checks get Town killed

yes.

[LinearPoint]

However, Neeko doesn't think NAA is the kind of person to choose modkill over chaos reguardless of alignment.

[LinearPoint]

NAA is naturally chaotic.

[alexa]

obviously i feel guilty. i just shot one of the best villagers in the game and she flipped town JOAT. but everyone popping in about it after the fact but not speaking up before is frustrating.

[NotAnAxehole]

Listen, we all make mistakes. I was admittedly wrong in picking Alison for my action.

Alexa was wrong in shooting Alison, I still think she's town for it.

[falcon45ca]

If NAAs role forces him to fake red checks, I'd wager he's 3P/Not Town Aligned



I'd like him to clear up if he did it for the lulz or had no choice.


Perhaps he has and I missed it

[alexa]

BTW for people who still think teams were picked. i don't think many people would not pick Alison.

[NotAnAxehole]

If NAAs role forces him to fake red checks, I'd wager he's 3P/Not Town Aligned



I'd like him to clear up if he did it for the lulz or had no choice.


Perhaps he has and I missed it

I'm using my role. I have no obligation to do anything. My judgment call on Alison / the shot was wrong. It was a fair use of my role, not a deliberate attempt to throw people off.

[LinearPoint]

Neeko's come up with a few other possibly town aligned roles that might like mislynching Town, but she wont state them for obvious reasons.
Most roles have also flipped in such a way that implies roles and alignments aren't tied.
So a role that benifits from mislynches or is forced to facilitate them doesn't necessarily mean it is a scum role.

[Creature]

I still believe NAA might just flip town and we're going tonight with 5 town dead and only one wolf dead. Would much rather we try to lynch wolf today to make up for the losses.

[LinearPoint]

well at least Town and Mafia.
3rd Parties might be handled differently.

[alexa]

I still believe NAA might just flip town and we're going tonight with 5 town dead and only one wolf dead. Would much rather we try to lynch wolf today to make up for the losses.

if he's town he has the most anti-town role in history. i don't believe Nook would give town a role that involves faking red checks in a non-bastard game.

[Creature]

I think DrWilgy has some wolf equity. Anyone knows how to read them?

[LinearPoint]

I think DrWilgy has some wolf equity. Anyone knows how to read them?

Ha, Neeko finds you funny.
Reading DrWiggly is hilarious.