The Rings of Power - Game Over

[NotAnAxehole]

HK has a weird muted energy about him. Am I crazy or do people see it?

@NotAnAxehole what do u think of Martin?

I'm trying not to.

The current statistical analysis seems to agree with you, but I need to test robustness & nuance/variance which I have not yet done at all for Martin.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I take back my town read on srceen atm

Also trying to teach my phone srceen is the new screen

I’ll ask about this, though. What changed on Screen?

[NotAnAxehole]

I take back my town read on srceen atm

Also trying to teach my phone srceen is the new screen

I’ll ask about this, though. What changed on Screen?

I have a guess, but I'm trying not to guess.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I take back my town read on srceen atm

Also trying to teach my phone srceen is the new screen

I feel like he's more concerned in justifying himself and his wishy washy stance than actually taking a stance because she a lot of content and interactions and reactions to judge. it's a stance that is positioning her as a possible yeet he can explain without having to look like a sore thumb

That's my take.

Hmm.

This seems like a valid thought process even if I don’t know if I agree even if I do agree with the conclusion of SP’s alignment.

Half a point to Dunya. Half a point subtracted from SP.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Screen] aubergine



Let’s play.

[NotAnAxehole]

If I had to guess, I'd say this contains 2-3 mafia:



But this isn't a read, this is just me guessing.

[dunya]

If I had to guess, I'd say this contains 2-3 mafia:



But this isn't a read, this is just me guessing.

The voters or the nominees?

[NotAnAxehole]

If I had to guess, I'd say this contains 2-3 mafia:



But this isn't a read, this is just me guessing.

The voters or the nominees?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Andre - null
Creature - townlean
Doom - null
Wilgy - null
Dunya - wishywashy
HK - null
Mac - town
Marmot - townlean
Martin - townlean
Moonwink - townlean
Nanook - null
NAA - null
Osie - townlean
Portia - null
Scotty - town
Screen - wolflean

A decidedly Jack D1 readlist with more null than I expected but oh well.

[NotAnAxehole]

@dunya the voters are the nominees (minus one)

[Marmot]

I agree with all of your nulls Jack except for DOOM, who I'd call town.

NAA can have a scumread for performative guessing.

[dunya]

I think Nook is obv town, but that's just me.

Jack: didn't you just quote me and say you don't agree with my alignment of srceen?

[Marmot]

I am also voting for jack. Hmmmmmm

[VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

Picking 8 out 16 players and declaring 2-3 out of 4 scum is probably in that group is a pretty worthless statement.

2 wolves in a random 8 player group is exactly what you’d expect. Clarifying a particular 8 players barely even denotes suspicion.

Do something more useful so I can read you.

linki: Stating 2-3 scum in a group of 5 players is more useful but since I think all 5 of those players are town, I gotta ask why.

linki2: It does feel bad. It does feel performative. Doesn’t seem like a wolf would be doing this cutesy weird ass read thing. Doesn’t feel like a townie would either so that’s probably NAI

[Marmot]

I think Nook is obv town, but that's just me.

Jack: didn't you just quote me and say you don't agree with my alignment of srceen?

What makes it obvious?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I think Nook is obv town, but that's just me.

Jack: didn't you just quote me and say you don't agree with my alignment of srceen?

I agree with your conclusion.

I don’t agree with your reasoning.

I think your reasoning isn’t scummy.

[Marmot]

Ok, gotta go to work. Bbl

[srceenplay]

I think Nook is obv town, but that's just me.

Jack: didn't you just quote me and say you don't agree with my alignment of srceen?

I agree with your conclusion.

I don’t agree with your reasoning.

I think your reasoning isn’t scummy.

What is your different reasoning?

[srceenplay]

I take back my town read on srceen atm

Also trying to teach my phone srceen is the new screen

I feel like he's more concerned in justifying himself and his wishy washy stance than actually taking a stance because she a lot of content and interactions and reactions to judge. it's a stance that is positioning her as a possible yeet he can explain without having to look like a sore thumb

That's my take.

How am I justifying myself and being wishy washy?
I was asked a question and gave my response.

[Marmot]

Actually, gonna get high first, then go to work.

[NotAnAxehole]

I'm going to rate all of my reads on a scale of 1 to 8, 1 being guaranteed mafia, 8 being guaranteed town.

Not rated:

Andres
Porscha
Creature
Moonwink
Marmot
DrWilgy


Nanook: 3
Jackofhearts: 6
MartinGG: 5
MacDougall: 6
DOO: 5
Hallowkat: 5
Scotty: 5
Osieorb: 4
Srceenplay: 4
Dunya: 4


I'm working on getting everyone on the list & tuning the list so that it's more meaningful.

[Scotty]

Very busy today at work, but ima catch up throughout the day and iso people now that it looks like everyone checked in

[DrWilgy]

Mmmm... Game.

[hollowkatt]

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: hallowkatt] aubergine

wait, I'm doing the harder of the two things and you're voting me for it? or are you voting me b/c I said to scotty idc if he thinks it's lazy

You are entertaining the idea that you are doing the harder and lazy thing?

Calling almost 1/4 of the player group town is over confident and/or scumy to me.

No, YOU said it was the harder of the two things. Scotty said it was Lazy, and I said "I don't care if you think it's lazy, I think it's useful."
How many town reads is too many screenplay? Do you think I'm wrong? Do you think I have TMI? What is it?

Or are you not wanting this many people to be drawing town reads this early b/c that's what I think.

MacDougall is a player in this game.

he hasn't tried to pocket me yet, means he's probs town

I'll be the decider of that.

the last two times he was a wolf he straight up tried to (and succeeded for a time) in pocketing me.

@hollowkatt I need your help to develop my reads, what would you say is the most prominent/important feature of your scum game? Links with examples plox.

my most important feature is not spewing my team when I die and not picking fights.
my second most important feature is definitely knowing how to count to 1.

Beelzebub Mafia

Bluey Mafia - I did end game this one

AtLA Mafia - seanzie basically ran this show, I was along for the ride.

as to whether or not these are the kinds of examples you're looking for I have no idea.

Pokémon survives as a franchise on nostalgia factor, if it were introduced as a brand new franchise in 2022 it would be considered just another middle of the road game

I agree somewhat. The video game market is too diluted to set a new great franchise like Pokemon and Mario. Glad Pokemon at least got big because its universe is pretty interesting.

I'm a bit bored. Doesn't feel like the game is progressing.

Talks about Pokemon and then in the next post complains that the game isn't progressing.

I haven’t played with creature enough- is apathy a scum trait of his?

early game apathy is creature indicative. Later in the game if the apathy remains it's probs wolf indicative.

Currently:
Doom - town (communicates via smoke signals and the North Star to find Truth)

I could see her being town on general blase purity but I'm not entirely convinced and I'm a little surprised that you have her as one of your strongish townreads at this point.

I don’t know what her scum game looks like, but I’m agreeing with her reads right now.

I could be very wrong, which my D1 reads are wont to be, but ima stick a corncob pipe in it and call it frosty

her scum game is brutal and makes you cry. also pockets you and uses you to her own advantage. No i'm not salty why do you ask?

HK has made a number of posts like this today, which offer little insight into his thought process or what he thinks about the game.

This does not include extended back-and-forths about complaining about reading posts in this game thread.


HK has offered a couple reads.

Spoiler: show

MacDougall is a player in this game.

he hasn't tried to pocket me yet, means he's probs town

ok let’s try something different:

I activate my uno reverse. Who do you think looks scummy so far?

tbh I don't like your posts much. Your attempt to work yourself into the P1 joke set felt forced. I also think screen is potentially wolfy but that's more along the lines of "I think screen tried to set a trap and failed" more than it is "screen is wolfing".

I played some league and talked about white supremacy with my grandparents, now that I'm wanting to die, I have reached my peak mafia form. Time to carry

unironically going to town read this

But the srceenplay one is, dare I say, hedgey, and the DOOM one is unexplained.


I'm putting HK in the scum pile for now.

of all the cases written against me in the history of mafia this one is the most lame.

but ok, lets go through this line by line I guess.

The first post you cite is a conversation between myself and srceen. I challenge his vote on me, he explains it, and then I push back because he's trying to have it both ways. He says I do the hard thing, then he votes me for "being lazy" except that I'm not being lazy. My "lazy" comment was directed towards scotty when I said I didn't care if he thought it was lazy, I find looking for townies makes more sense and works better for me.

The second post you cite is me making a read on mac for very specific personal reasons. The last two games I've had with wolf mac he specifically pocketed me, he knows it works. So that he hasn't tried doing that thus far is town indicative for him. How is that not offering insight into how I'm thinking? I'm laying out exactly why I have that read.

My comment on creature is a conversation with scotty and again draws on my personal experience with creature. Again I'm not sure where that's not insight into how I'm thinking.

My dunya comment sure, that's a throw-away. impugn me for that I guess.

I do straight up say my srceen read is weird, that's obvs to anyone who read it.

What about the DOOM read needs explaining? I could expand on that in terms of I like the other things they're saying, but mostly it's the attitude of "putting you big person pants on and getting to work" that I don't find comes from a wolf all that often. DOOM might be a highly capable wolf (not sure I've ever seen them wolf tbh) and sure, might say something like that as a wolf, but generally the "ugh lets go fucking solve this" comes from town vastly more often than it does from town.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

More votes on Jack imo

[Jackofhearts2005]

More votes on Jack imo

What's the most compelling reason to think I'm scum itg?

[NotAnAxehole]

DrWilgy was here.

[Jackofhearts2005]

RE: Screen suspicion.

Spoiler: show

A lot of what Screen does is like game related but entirely unhelpful. Examples:

Spoiler: show

Anyway, the real question here is what’s wrong with becoming a ring wraith? They get bitchin capes. Can’t get that at Jc penny’s

If you are dead you cant hold rings. The less people to hold rings the more oppertunity for scum to get all the rings.

I might have missed it in the rules- if someone sends a ring to someone else, do the “points” reset, or are rings only able to be used twice maximum in the whole game? And is the person notified what level of corruption that ring is at if they receive it?

My understanding is nothing "resets".
I thought corruption was per ring, but is it collective?

good morning who's townie?

you tell me

I haven't read anything from over night

There’s like 40 posts and half of them are me, come on HK

creature, dunya, nanook, moonwink are all probably town.

are you happy now?

I think its easier to call all of them scum than town.

Yes, that's me criticizing naked reads while sometimes giving naked reads but whatcha gonna do?

[VOTE: hallowkatt] aubergine

wait, I'm doing the harder of the two things and you're voting me for it? or are you voting me b/c I said to scotty idc if he thinks it's lazy

You are entertaining the idea that you are doing the harder and lazy thing?

Calling almost 1/4 of the player group town is over confident and/or scumy to me.

This is SP's first like actual post. It's pretty hedgy. Is it over confident or is it scummy? Reads like a wolf calling attention to a thing without really wanting to push there himself. Maybe.

[VOTE: hallowkatt] aubergine

wait, I'm doing the harder of the two things and you're voting me for it? or are you voting me b/c I said to scotty idc if he thinks it's lazy

You are entertaining the idea that you are doing the harder and lazy thing?

Calling almost 1/4 of the player group town is over confident and/or scumy to me.

No, YOU said it was the harder of the two things. Scotty said it was Lazy, and I said "I don't care if you think it's lazy, I think it's useful."
How many town reads is too many screenplay? Do you think I'm wrong? Do you think I have TMI? What is it?

Or are you not wanting this many people to be drawing town reads this early b/c that's what I think.

LOL. It's easy to call them scum because i don't see a way to call them town.
and yes. anyone trying to tell me someone is town does feel tmi.
and and yes to many town reads that i don't understand seems suspicious to me.

This bothered me the first time I read it but on reread, it looks fine.

Hey everyone! It’s good to be here. I’ll be posting later tonight I’m just finishing up the work day. I’m actually excited.

Also, who is StarV again? NotAnAxehole right? Yeah, my vote is there in spirit haha (I gotta figure out how to actually vote). Until I do, that’s where I’m at.

Meh. This is meh.

I agree. I don't know andres, but the amount of joy in this post is unheard of in a mafia game (and also feels a little forced).

This is almost every andres opening post every game.
If they do end up contributing, probably town. If they don't,...

Simple, helpful meta on a player I have no meta for. Probably NAI but I appreciate it.

other news,
I liked omega and wasn't excited about mac.

What don't you like about Mac? From reading page 6, I've locked him in as town.

just paranoid.
they feels forceful

Naked read on Doom and Mac. Gives a reason for suspecting Mac when pushed but I don't find it particularly interesting.

sorry I'm late

Sorry I'm here

why would you be sorry about that?

1. I found this funny

2. I feel like NAA's response was mocking Mac there because in a way it means the same thing

3. maybe I should town-lean mac for not noticing that and just offensively questioning it as if it wasn't mockery

fake

Weird callout. I don't understand what Martin is saying here but calling it fake is an odd assertion. #weird But seriously, what is fake about this?

other news,
I liked omega and wasn't excited about mac.

What don't you like about Mac? From reading page 6, I've locked him in as town.

just paranoid.
they feels forceful

Okay, for real, why haven't you given a read on me? It feels like you're paying attention to other going-ons, but when it comes to the people actually getting wagoned (I'm pretty sure I was the lead wagon at one point), you don't seem to have much interest in leading people to or away from certain wagons?

----

To all: I'd be okay with srceenplay being a secondary wagon instead of me. Put up Jack and srceen and let's see what happens.

you are a null/scum position. Overly explaining your actions sounds like someone who scared of what people think about them. on the flip side it could be you just want people to understand you. IDK never played with you so, so i can sit back and observe and watch it play out more.

You have talked about reaction testing players. What have you gathered from that?

This post is kinda good, actually.

Idk. I'm not actually sold on SP being a wolf but I'm not gonna say there isn't anything there, either. It's a lousy "top scumread" for me to have but there isn't a lot of overtly scummy behavior happening in thread for me to latch onto instead.

[osieorb18]

"This comes across as "I'm jealous because the cool girl is more popular than me." I don't think that's your intention, but just saying..."

does it really? that's a weird thing for you to think given it's clearly a self explanatory point that has fuck all to do with me making a statement about her popularity and everything to do with me simply scumreading her in a game of mafia.

To be fair, like dunya I have a visceral reaction to the use of terms like simp. Terms and speech patterns which are widely internet/memetic-culture-associated (such as simp/kek and extensive text-speak) tend to push me towards scumreading people IRL since I instantly consider them to be approaching interaction with less empathy and more general desire to be naughty, as it is true the vast supermajority of the time.

You verbatim, out of context, are complaining about people being considered good at mafia.

Mafia is a social team game. Having good reads doesn't mean anything if nobody wants to listen.

HK has a weird muted energy about him. Am I crazy or do people see it?

I see it but I'm not yet sure that it's any kind of gotcha moment.

I think Nook is obv town, but that's just me.

Jack: didn't you just quote me and say you don't agree with my alignment of srceen?

I agree with your conclusion.

I don’t agree with your reasoning.

I think your reasoning isn’t scummy.

I think Nook is obv town, but that's just me.

Jack: didn't you just quote me and say you don't agree with my alignment of srceen?

I think I may have a deep town tell on srceen based on their early game.

[srceenplay]

I think I may have a deep town tell on srceen based on their early game.

If this is genuine I would be curious to know what it is.

[srceenplay]

RE: Screen suspicion.

Spoiler: show

A lot of what Screen does is like game related but entirely unhelpful. Examples:

Spoiler: show

Anyway, the real question here is what’s wrong with becoming a ring wraith? They get bitchin capes. Can’t get that at Jc penny’s

If you are dead you cant hold rings. The less people to hold rings the more oppertunity for scum to get all the rings.

I might have missed it in the rules- if someone sends a ring to someone else, do the “points” reset, or are rings only able to be used twice maximum in the whole game? And is the person notified what level of corruption that ring is at if they receive it?

My understanding is nothing "resets".
I thought corruption was per ring, but is it collective?

good morning who's townie?

you tell me

I haven't read anything from over night

There’s like 40 posts and half of them are me, come on HK

creature, dunya, nanook, moonwink are all probably town.

are you happy now?

I think its easier to call all of them scum than town.

Yes, that's me criticizing naked reads while sometimes giving naked reads but whatcha gonna do?

[VOTE: hallowkatt] aubergine

wait, I'm doing the harder of the two things and you're voting me for it? or are you voting me b/c I said to scotty idc if he thinks it's lazy

You are entertaining the idea that you are doing the harder and lazy thing?

Calling almost 1/4 of the player group town is over confident and/or scumy to me.

This is SP's first like actual post. It's pretty hedgy. Is it over confident or is it scummy? Reads like a wolf calling attention to a thing without really wanting to push there himself. Maybe.

[VOTE: hallowkatt] aubergine

wait, I'm doing the harder of the two things and you're voting me for it? or are you voting me b/c I said to scotty idc if he thinks it's lazy

You are entertaining the idea that you are doing the harder and lazy thing?

Calling almost 1/4 of the player group town is over confident and/or scumy to me.

No, YOU said it was the harder of the two things. Scotty said it was Lazy, and I said "I don't care if you think it's lazy, I think it's useful."
How many town reads is too many screenplay? Do you think I'm wrong? Do you think I have TMI? What is it?

Or are you not wanting this many people to be drawing town reads this early b/c that's what I think.

LOL. It's easy to call them scum because i don't see a way to call them town.
and yes. anyone trying to tell me someone is town does feel tmi.
and and yes to many town reads that i don't understand seems suspicious to me.

This bothered me the first time I read it but on reread, it looks fine.

Hey everyone! It’s good to be here. I’ll be posting later tonight I’m just finishing up the work day. I’m actually excited.

Also, who is StarV again? NotAnAxehole right? Yeah, my vote is there in spirit haha (I gotta figure out how to actually vote). Until I do, that’s where I’m at.

Meh. This is meh.

I agree. I don't know andres, but the amount of joy in this post is unheard of in a mafia game (and also feels a little forced).

This is almost every andres opening post every game.
If they do end up contributing, probably town. If they don't,...

Simple, helpful meta on a player I have no meta for. Probably NAI but I appreciate it.

other news,
I liked omega and wasn't excited about mac.

What don't you like about Mac? From reading page 6, I've locked him in as town.

just paranoid.
they feels forceful

Naked read on Doom and Mac. Gives a reason for suspecting Mac when pushed but I don't find it particularly interesting.

sorry I'm late

Sorry I'm here

why would you be sorry about that?

1. I found this funny

2. I feel like NAA's response was mocking Mac there because in a way it means the same thing

3. maybe I should town-lean mac for not noticing that and just offensively questioning it as if it wasn't mockery

fake

Weird callout. I don't understand what Martin is saying here but calling it fake is an odd assertion. #weird But seriously, what is fake about this?

other news,
I liked omega and wasn't excited about mac.

What don't you like about Mac? From reading page 6, I've locked him in as town.

just paranoid.
they feels forceful

Okay, for real, why haven't you given a read on me? It feels like you're paying attention to other going-ons, but when it comes to the people actually getting wagoned (I'm pretty sure I was the lead wagon at one point), you don't seem to have much interest in leading people to or away from certain wagons?

----

To all: I'd be okay with srceenplay being a secondary wagon instead of me. Put up Jack and srceen and let's see what happens.

you are a null/scum position. Overly explaining your actions sounds like someone who scared of what people think about them. on the flip side it could be you just want people to understand you. IDK never played with you so, so i can sit back and observe and watch it play out more.

You have talked about reaction testing players. What have you gathered from that?

This post is kinda good, actually.

Idk. I'm not actually sold on SP being a wolf but I'm not gonna say there isn't anything there, either. It's a lousy "top scumread" for me to have but there isn't a lot of overtly scummy behavior happening in thread for me to latch onto instead.

It seems like this post is more of a " I've re-evaluated screen".

The fake post I can go back to and answer

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

What's the negative association with kek?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I mean, literally yes.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Getting a tad bit antsy being 12 hours out from eod, having no strong scumreads and 3 players having posted nothing or nothing alignment indicative.

[NotAnAxehole]

I'm a simp. Hard claim, never rescind.

[osieorb18]

I think I may have a deep town tell on srceen based on their early game.

If this is genuine I would be curious to know what it is.

This series of posts iirc felt like unlikely to come from someone with a scumchat. I noticed the derp yesterday and didn't think to note it down, so for all I know I'm confusing you with Creature.

Anyway, the real question here is what’s wrong with becoming a ring wraith? They get bitchin capes. Can’t get that at Jc penny’s

If you are dead you cant hold rings. The less people to hold rings the more oppertunity for scum to get all the rings.

I might have missed it in the rules- if someone sends a ring to someone else, do the “points” reset, or are rings only able to be used twice maximum in the whole game? And is the person notified what level of corruption that ring is at if they receive it?

My understanding is nothing "resets".
I thought corruption was per ring, but is it collective?

Anyway, the real question here is what’s wrong with becoming a ring wraith? They get bitchin capes. Can’t get that at Jc penny’s

If you are dead you cant hold rings. The less people to hold rings the more oppertunity for scum to get all the rings.

I might have missed it in the rules- if someone sends a ring to someone else, do the “points” reset, or are rings only able to be used twice maximum in the whole game? And is the person notified what level of corruption that ring is at if they receive it?

My understanding is nothing "resets".
I thought corruption was per ring, but is it collective?

So corruption is per ring

aubergine
what is that?

[srceenplay]

The fake post I can go back to and answer

I lied, went back and re-read and don't even remember.
The thought was somewhere along the lines of them starting the game with just ring jokes. Coming back way later, skipping content and commenting on a joke post. There was a more profound thought with that but I don't remember.

[osieorb18]

What's the negative association with kek?

That's a whole specific ballgame beyond general internet speak, and gets into forbidden territory fast, but the short story is that it's a term that's been widely coopted by certain movements due to its close resemblance to an anti-Semitic slur.

Anyways, I have some stuff to go do and I don't want this topic to derail things too much.

[srceenplay]

I think I may have a deep town tell on srceen based on their early game.

If this is genuine I would be curious to know what it is.

This series of posts iirc felt like unlikely to come from someone with a scumchat. I noticed the derp yesterday and didn't think to note it down, so for all I know I'm confusing you with Creature.

Anyway, the real question here is what’s wrong with becoming a ring wraith? They get bitchin capes. Can’t get that at Jc penny’s

If you are dead you cant hold rings. The less people to hold rings the more oppertunity for scum to get all the rings.

I might have missed it in the rules- if someone sends a ring to someone else, do the “points” reset, or are rings only able to be used twice maximum in the whole game? And is the person notified what level of corruption that ring is at if they receive it?

My understanding is nothing "resets".
I thought corruption was per ring, but is it collective?

Anyway, the real question here is what’s wrong with becoming a ring wraith? They get bitchin capes. Can’t get that at Jc penny’s

If you are dead you cant hold rings. The less people to hold rings the more oppertunity for scum to get all the rings.

I might have missed it in the rules- if someone sends a ring to someone else, do the “points” reset, or are rings only able to be used twice maximum in the whole game? And is the person notified what level of corruption that ring is at if they receive it?

My understanding is nothing "resets".
I thought corruption was per ring, but is it collective?

So corruption is per ring

aubergine
what is that?

Those are what also put Scott into my town lean

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

What's the negative association with kek?

That's a whole specific ballgame beyond general internet speak, and gets into forbidden territory fast, but the short story is that it's a term that's been widely coopted by certain movements due to its close resemblance to an anti-Semitic slur.

Anyways, I have some stuff to go do and I don't want this topic to derail things too much.

Woof, was not aware of that.

[Scotty]

I have a couple minutes.

Running through my scum reads from earlier
Hk:
I stand by my stance that he’s taken a lazy approach to solving or even just being around today. It’s certainly not friendly. Has taken defensive responses to screenplay and i calling out his laziness. Like, he makes baseless town reads, and then goes into detail about why he isnt lazy instead of just…rounding out his reads.

Ima be the state of Missouri and ask him to “Show Me” - he can be the state of Jersey and he can “Spew Every Unfiltered Thought” in his mind about his reads.

Spoiler: show

@hollowkatt I need your help to develop my reads, what would you say is the most prominent/important feature of your scum game? Links with examples plox.

my most important feature is not spewing my team when I die and not picking fights.
my second most important feature is definitely knowing how to count to 1.

Beelzebub Mafia

Bluey Mafia - I did end game this one

AtLA Mafia - seanzie basically ran this show, I was along for the ride.

as to whether or not these are the kinds of examples you're looking for I have no idea.

So his scum game is just…not spewing his teammates and not picking fights? I’m not going to read the other games because I don’t have time, but I stand by the idea that if you know your meta, you can change it, so this means nothing to me.

He’s probably mafia. He’s certainly not townsiding.

[Scotty]

Moonwink:
I don’t know their gameplay, and only briefly said hello in scumchat in the first roll, but as I’ve read their iso this player seems to have a mode of laxidazicle this game, which they confess is different than their normal play with the post cap.

My initial read of them based on odd comments in the beginning and patently ignoring my comments about them.

Spoiler: show

Also hi moon- You are avoiding my comment about you

Yeah. It's fun for me to avoid someone's comments but still talk about them to other people just to see how they react. :3

It took me a moment to realize that Axehole was StarV, but yeah, the three of us had planned to do a copy paste thing where we all copy-pasted the same thing just as a joke kind of thing to keep our morale up. I doubt he'd do something TOO similar, but I am keeping an eye on his first post and the people responding to it (srceen, dunya, and you are the ones who responded to it so far).

This is a fun read.

What’s odd about this is that moonwink wasn’t even a part of that planned conversation if I recall, so for her to say the “three of us” is akin to scribbling in her hancock on the Declaration of Independence because she’s an American

I was a part of it at the end, but nobody really responded to me before my pre-rerand channel become the general pre-game chat. :P

I'm a bit bored. Doesn't feel like the game is progressing.

I relate to this. Help me wagon Osieorb.

Why osie?

Because you were already there on the Osie wagon, and I wanted to see if Creature would become "unbored" by wagoning someone and creating a bit of mischief. 3 votes would've created a leading wagon on Osie, which could have resulted in some fun from Osie.

This whole interaction is like my daughter dropping her freshly bought ice cream cone, giggling unabashedly about it, and then asking me to buy her another one. That’s the energy I’m getting.

I don’t have a daughter. And if I had a choice, it certainly wouldn’t be Moonwink.

In all seriousness, does this make her mafia? I don’t know, but it’s frustrating to see her just shrug everything off. Seems like she’s not taking any of the day seriously. Her comfort in just hang gliding today makes me pause. It’s in stark contrast to HK, who is grumpier in his approach to people calling him out. I’m less sure about her right now, but it wouldn’t surprise me to find she was a creepy skeleton in a black cloak all along.

[DrWilgy]

@Scotty who's town in your eyes.

[DrWilgy]

AND to specify further. Who is MOST towny?

[NotAnAxehole]

We should probably be focusing on killing Nanook today.

[Moonwink]

We should probably be focusing on killing Nanook today.

o.O

Nanook is actually the one person who, like, most of all seems willing to work with anybody just to make sure we actually get someone yeeted today. That's absolutely pro-town, I feel, in this setup. Everybody else seems to just wanna vote wherever they please and not convince anybody else to join their wagons. Like, do you and everyone else realize that we need 50% of players to vote on a wagon to chop someone? No one is going to get eliminated with these small wagons.

[NotAnAxehole]

most of all seems willing to work with anybody

Not scummy at all.

[Moonwink]

This whole interaction is like my daughter dropping her freshly bought ice cream cone, giggling unabashedly about it, and then asking me to buy her another one. That’s the energy I’m getting.

I don’t have a daughter. And if I had a choice, it certainly wouldn’t be Moonwink.

Hehe. <3 Yeah, that's me.

Though, I've gotten a little more serious in my most recent posts. For example, I'm 90% serious about my Srceen read, and also on my Axehole read, especially after that Nanook post.

[NotAnAxehole]

I am content to work towards a majority, as long as said majority is on Nanook.

[Moonwink]

blah
Creature interacting is not how I remember them playing. From what I remember they always scum coasted. Maybe town coasted as well. They dont feel bad though.

Dunya confident IDGAF what you think feels towny to me but what mac says makes me think twice about it.

Nanook can be voted off

Moonwink idk without going back and rereading.

As the player with the 2nd most votes, I take issue with you not having a read on me, especially when you have your vote on HK, which I feel is a cop out. :< Have I not given enough content yet compared to HK? What is HK doing that I'm not that's grabbing your attention?

I haven't really tried forming a read on you yet. ;-; I figured with Mac and others talking to/about you, I'll have stuff to make a read on you later,

Sassy response. :3 The difference between me and Dunya though is that Dunya isn't one of the top wagons, which is why I don't immediately feel pressured to give a read on her at the moment. I -am- a top wagon, even more so than HK was 12 hours ago, yet you had zero interest in really having any influence in the wagons. THAT is what is scummy to me, not singularly that you don't have a read on me. The latter is just a byproduct of the former.

other news,
I liked omega and wasn't excited about mac.

What don't you like about Mac? From reading page 6, I've locked him in as town.

just paranoid.
they feels forceful

Okay, for real, why haven't you given a read on me? It feels like you're paying attention to other going-ons, but when it comes to the people actually getting wagoned (I'm pretty sure I was the lead wagon at one point), you don't seem to have much interest in leading people to or away from certain wagons?

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To all: I'd be okay with srceenplay being a secondary wagon instead of me. Put up Jack and srceen and let's see what happens.

you are a null/scum position. Overly explaining your actions sounds like someone who scared of what people think about them. on the flip side it could be you just want people to understand you. IDK never played with you so, so i can sit back and observe and watch it play out more.

You have talked about reaction testing players. What have you gathered from that?

You're still not taking a position on me. Which do you think it is right now? Do you think it's more likely that I'm scared of what people think about me, or do you I'm just trying to get people to understand me? Again, I'm the top wagon, and you look bad to me right now not having any sort of strong alignment read on me right now.

other news,
I liked omega and wasn't excited about mac.

What don't you like about Mac? From reading page 6, I've locked him in as town.

just paranoid.
they feels forceful

Okay, for real, why haven't you given a read on me? It feels like you're paying attention to other going-ons, but when it comes to the people actually getting wagoned (I'm pretty sure I was the lead wagon at one point), you don't seem to have much interest in leading people to or away from certain wagons?

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To all: I'd be okay with srceenplay being a secondary wagon instead of me. Put up Jack and srceen and let's see what happens.

I’d be fine with it because it means Screen goes over.

That would be my hope, yes. Because I would certainly be voting Screen over you in that case.