The Rings of Power - Game Over

[hollowkatt]

and wtf is there a wagon on nanook for?

[Creature]

It's just a shitty day

[Jackofhearts2005]

What would you like us to be doing, HK?

[hollowkatt]

What would you like us to be doing, HK?

I'm cool with srceen/marmot going over. not cool with you, nanook, or naa really. Seems like people are pre-flipping you/nanook and I don't understand why

[osieorb18]

Hmm... My scumreads are at least mostly voting for two of my townreads, jack and srceen. My PoE at the very least looks something like (no particular order):

DrWilgy (generally meh), HK (tonal, active lurking), Martin (active lurking, no reads), Moonwink (on a different planet), NAA (active lurking, posturing)

Nanook had a poor response to pressure, but I'm not entirely convinced that they're a good D1 elim. I don't think we get anything more out of that whether they're town or scum.

I doubt that all three players on Jack are scum, though, so that's at least something.

[dunya]

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

I think it's time to just let axe have his d1 chop. I feel like if we did that in most games we'd kill mafia.

This feels like either sarcasm or wolf? Just me???

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hey Dunya, where’s your head at atm?

[Marmot]

We should probably be focusing on killing Nanook today.

o.O

Nanook is actually the one person who, like, most of all seems willing to work with anybody just to make sure we actually get someone yeeted today. That's absolutely pro-town, I feel, in this setup. Everybody else seems to just wanna vote wherever they please and not convince anybody else to join their wagons. Like, do you and everyone else realize that we need 50% of players to vote on a wagon to chop someone? No one is going to get eliminated with these small wagons.

Last time Nanook was scum, he just blindly sheeped me on Day 2 after I redpeeked one of his teammates. I haven't read any of his posts here, so I don't know if that's what he's doing.

[dunya]

Hey jack I'm reading up the posts I missed so I can move my vote somewhere that "counts" today before I sleep.

[Creature]

Jack, Mac, NAA

Can any of them be wolf here?

[dunya]

Is NANOOK frozen how do I find out on mobile without damn iso links

[Creature]

What would you like us to be doing, HK?

I'm cool with srceen/marmot going over. not cool with you, nanook, or naa really. Seems like people are pre-flipping you/nanook and I don't understand why

Could see Marmot

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

I think it's time to just let axe have his d1 chop. I feel like if we did that in most games we'd kill mafia.

This feels like either sarcasm or wolf? Just me???

well I am both town and not being sarcastic so good job

[MacDougall]

Dunya continues to be exceptionally full of shit with every post.

[Marmot]

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: hallowkatt] aubergine

wait, I'm doing the harder of the two things and you're voting me for it? or are you voting me b/c I said to scotty idc if he thinks it's lazy

You are entertaining the idea that you are doing the harder and lazy thing?

Calling almost 1/4 of the player group town is over confident and/or scumy to me.

No, YOU said it was the harder of the two things. Scotty said it was Lazy, and I said "I don't care if you think it's lazy, I think it's useful."
How many town reads is too many screenplay? Do you think I'm wrong? Do you think I have TMI? What is it?

Or are you not wanting this many people to be drawing town reads this early b/c that's what I think.

MacDougall is a player in this game.

he hasn't tried to pocket me yet, means he's probs town

I'll be the decider of that.

the last two times he was a wolf he straight up tried to (and succeeded for a time) in pocketing me.

@hollowkatt I need your help to develop my reads, what would you say is the most prominent/important feature of your scum game? Links with examples plox.

my most important feature is not spewing my team when I die and not picking fights.
my second most important feature is definitely knowing how to count to 1.

Beelzebub Mafia

Bluey Mafia - I did end game this one

AtLA Mafia - seanzie basically ran this show, I was along for the ride.

as to whether or not these are the kinds of examples you're looking for I have no idea.

Pokémon survives as a franchise on nostalgia factor, if it were introduced as a brand new franchise in 2022 it would be considered just another middle of the road game

I agree somewhat. The video game market is too diluted to set a new great franchise like Pokemon and Mario. Glad Pokemon at least got big because its universe is pretty interesting.

I'm a bit bored. Doesn't feel like the game is progressing.

Talks about Pokemon and then in the next post complains that the game isn't progressing.

I haven’t played with creature enough- is apathy a scum trait of his?

early game apathy is creature indicative. Later in the game if the apathy remains it's probs wolf indicative.

Currently:
Doom - town (communicates via smoke signals and the North Star to find Truth)

I could see her being town on general blase purity but I'm not entirely convinced and I'm a little surprised that you have her as one of your strongish townreads at this point.

I don’t know what her scum game looks like, but I’m agreeing with her reads right now.

I could be very wrong, which my D1 reads are wont to be, but ima stick a corncob pipe in it and call it frosty

her scum game is brutal and makes you cry. also pockets you and uses you to her own advantage. No i'm not salty why do you ask?

HK has made a number of posts like this today, which offer little insight into his thought process or what he thinks about the game.

This does not include extended back-and-forths about complaining about reading posts in this game thread.


HK has offered a couple reads.

Spoiler: show

MacDougall is a player in this game.

he hasn't tried to pocket me yet, means he's probs town

ok let’s try something different:

I activate my uno reverse. Who do you think looks scummy so far?

tbh I don't like your posts much. Your attempt to work yourself into the P1 joke set felt forced. I also think screen is potentially wolfy but that's more along the lines of "I think screen tried to set a trap and failed" more than it is "screen is wolfing".

I played some league and talked about white supremacy with my grandparents, now that I'm wanting to die, I have reached my peak mafia form. Time to carry

unironically going to town read this

But the srceenplay one is, dare I say, hedgey, and the DOOM one is unexplained.


I'm putting HK in the scum pile for now.

of all the cases written against me in the history of mafia this one is the most lame.

but ok, lets go through this line by line I guess.

The first post you cite is a conversation between myself and srceen. I challenge his vote on me, he explains it, and then I push back because he's trying to have it both ways. He says I do the hard thing, then he votes me for "being lazy" except that I'm not being lazy. My "lazy" comment was directed towards scotty when I said I didn't care if he thought it was lazy, I find looking for townies makes more sense and works better for me.

The second post you cite is me making a read on mac for very specific personal reasons. The last two games I've had with wolf mac he specifically pocketed me, he knows it works. So that he hasn't tried doing that thus far is town indicative for him. How is that not offering insight into how I'm thinking? I'm laying out exactly why I have that read.

My comment on creature is a conversation with scotty and again draws on my personal experience with creature. Again I'm not sure where that's not insight into how I'm thinking.

My dunya comment sure, that's a throw-away. impugn me for that I guess.

I do straight up say my srceen read is weird, that's obvs to anyone who read it.

What about the DOOM read needs explaining? I could expand on that in terms of I like the other things they're saying, but mostly it's the attitude of "putting you big person pants on and getting to work" that I don't find comes from a wolf all that often. DOOM might be a highly capable wolf (not sure I've ever seen them wolf tbh) and sure, might say something like that as a wolf, but generally the "ugh lets go fucking solve this" comes from town vastly more often than it does from town.

I don't like that you called this case lame. Rude. Also, it isn't lame. I stand by my reasoning that your contributions to that point look tepid, an that many of your posts are not making contributions to this game based on what's happening in this game.

Part of the reason I find this suspicious is that I sometimes find myself as mafia talking about other players' meta a lot, because it's easy to make a statement without offering an opinion on them based specifically on what they're doing in this game.

[dunya]

Dunya continues to be exceptionally full of shit with every post.

Bite me

[Marmot]

Jack, Mac, NAA

Can any of them be wolf here?

Mac isn't a wolf, don't vote there.

[Creature]

[VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

I'mma go back through and figure out why people are voting for Nanook but in the meantime, this is where I see my vote doing the most good.

I trust Jack, Mac and NAA read accuracy wise the most.

[osieorb18]

Jack, Mac, NAA

Can any of them be wolf here?

Realistically, probably all of them, but I'm townreading Jack.

[MacDougall]

Aside from you I don't like either of the other players voting for nanook so I am sorry @NotAnAxehole but I probably can't abide remaining here much longer

I think Moonwink's reaction to your push was also wolfy in a "Nanook is a town and being pushed by a town and I can defend said town from other town" kinda way.

Jack, Dunya, Creature, Moonwink remain the four players I wish would just flip right now.

[dunya]

Marmot is always town, Creature. Don't tinfoil him.

[NotAnAxehole]

Dunya continues to be exceptionally full of shit with every post.

I tend to agree that Dunya leans scum.

[MacDougall]

Osie is also the sussiest of bakas.

Jack
Dunya
Osie
Creature
Moonwink

This is my sus list, they are probably all town.

[Creature]

Marmot is always town, Creature. Don't tinfoil him.

Okay. I was just unhappy Marmot didn't hit the "this is definitely town!Marmot" level.

[dunya]

Did you all listen to the new flo song???

I'm crying

[Marmot]

FYI, the later a vote stays on me, the more likely it is to be from a wolf.

There 's more ego in this post than there is intent to find scum. I don't like that.

[MacDougall]

Jack, Mac, NAA

Can any of them be wolf here?

Realistically, probably all of them, but I'm townreading Jack.

like this is just straight up never something a townie says

[MacDougall]

Dunya is now trolling me because she is dead to rights outed and nobody cares, as I pointed out would be the case about 24 hours ago.

[NotAnAxehole]

Osie is also the sussiest of bakas.

Jack
Dunya
Osie
Creature
Moonwink

This is my sus list, they are probably all town.

I think Jack is firmly in town meta ATM.

[dunya]

Dunya continues to be exceptionally full of shit with every post.

I tend to agree that Dunya leans scum.

Only mac can bite me. Sorry. I don't do sharesies.

Can someone link me to Nanook and HKs isos

[MacDougall]

When I said Jack/Dunya had wolf equity Jack's response to me was the most gaslighty pile of bullshit I've ever read btw.

[Marmot]

Marmot is always town, Creature. Don't tinfoil him.

Yes, you better believe it

[osieorb18]

Dunya continues to be exceptionally full of shit with every post.

Bite me

[Jackofhearts2005]

Aside from you I don't like either of the other players voting for nanook so I am sorry @NotAnAxehole but I probably can't abide remaining here much longer

I think Moonwink's reaction to your push was also wolfy in a "Nanook is a town and being pushed by a town and I can defend said town from other town" kinda way.

Jack, Dunya, Creature, Moonwink remain the four players I wish would just flip right now.

I’d help flip Moonwink, though I think Nanook has been worse.

I’d give Dunya another day. Creature and I are just town.

[dunya]

Dunya is now trolling me because she is dead to rights outed and nobody cares, as I pointed out would be the case about 24 hours ago.

I'd never troll you. I honestly thought you were being sarcastic about NAA cos I don't trust him yet lol.

[Marmot]

Marmot is always town, Creature. Don't tinfoil him.

Okay. I was just unhappy Marmot didn't hit the "this is definitely town!Marmot" level.

What is the "definitely town!marmot" level?

[MacDougall]

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/search.ph ... 665&t=2307
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/search.ph ... 712&t=2307

They ironically have the same number of posts. Spooky.

[osieorb18]

Jack, Mac, NAA

Can any of them be wolf here?

Realistically, probably all of them, but I'm townreading Jack.

like this is just straight up never something a townie says

Tough.

[Marmot]

I would troll Mac in a heartbeat.

[osieorb18]

Aside from you I don't like either of the other players voting for nanook so I am sorry @NotAnAxehole but I probably can't abide remaining here much longer

I think Moonwink's reaction to your push was also wolfy in a "Nanook is a town and being pushed by a town and I can defend said town from other town" kinda way.

Jack, Dunya, Creature, Moonwink remain the four players I wish would just flip right now.

I’d help flip Moonwink, though I think Nanook has been worse.

Why?

[Marmot]

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/search.ph ... 665&t=2307
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/search.ph ... 712&t=2307

They ironically have the same number of posts. Spooky.

I also had 27 posts when you made this post.

But I'm also town-flavored.

[NotAnAxehole]

I would troll Mac in a heartbeat.

No need, Mac is a self-troll.

[MacDougall]

Aside from you I don't like either of the other players voting for nanook so I am sorry @NotAnAxehole but I probably can't abide remaining here much longer

I think Moonwink's reaction to your push was also wolfy in a "Nanook is a town and being pushed by a town and I can defend said town from other town" kinda way.

Jack, Dunya, Creature, Moonwink remain the four players I wish would just flip right now.

I’d help flip Moonwink, though I think Nanook has been worse.

I’d give Dunya another day. Creature and I are just town.

why would you give dunya another day? she doesn't get any easier to chop and if she's mafia I will be gone, you only give her another day if you want her to become harder to chop you absolute egg

how has nanook been "worse" btw? what exactly has nanook done that's sus? I feel like he wasn't even a viable candidate til I voted for him at the behest of NAA and then you and creature just sheeped for bad reasons... now suddenly you have enough conviction in the nook push to say he's worse than moonwink?

you are the sussiest baka.

[MacDougall]

I would troll Mac in a heartbeat.

No need, Mac is a self-troll.

why do u hate me so much?

[Jackofhearts2005]

FYI, the later a vote stays on me, the more likely it is to be from a wolf. :eye:

There 's more ego in this post than there is intent to find scum. I don't like that.

It’s true, though, historically.

Townies realize I’m town and peel off before greedy wolves, who can’t realize I’m town cause they never thought I wasn’t.

Also, Nanook was basically frozen voting for me last time I saw his scum game and I was town. So this looks similar.

[Creature]

Aside from you I don't like either of the other players voting for nanook so I am sorry @NotAnAxehole but I probably can't abide remaining here much longer

I think Moonwink's reaction to your push was also wolfy in a "Nanook is a town and being pushed by a town and I can defend said town from other town" kinda way.

Jack, Dunya, Creature, Moonwink remain the four players I wish would just flip right now.

I’d help flip Moonwink, though I think Nanook has been worse.

I’d give Dunya another day. Creature and I are just town.

I don't think Moonblink is wolf here and they feel mislynch bait.

[dunya]

NOOK never w/w with srceen 80%

Lacking some substance but he did say he was spanking and I don't know I like people who agree with me and pocket me as mafia.

[Marmot]

One of my mafia is on every wagon :o

This is the kind of post that looks really townie imo, because DOOM is focused on her scumreads and what they're doing in the game.

Also, probably a good note for the future if one them does end up flipping scum.

[MacDougall]

I feel like I am taking crazy pills here with dunya. She is so sussy and she is treating me with so much TMI.

[Creature]

Marmot is always town, Creature. Don't tinfoil him.

Okay. I was just unhappy Marmot didn't hit the "this is definitely town!Marmot" level.

What is the "definitely town!marmot" level?

Somewhat the solvey way you came in on Panda Mafia.