The Rings of Power - Game Over

[Moonwink]

I probably won't be here much between now and eod

My preferred votes are Jack doom and (gulp) Dunia

Okay. <3

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

[Moonwink]

I probably won't be here much between now and eod

My preferred votes are Jack doom and (gulp) Dunia

Okay. <3

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Actually, I've got a better idea.

@MacDougall
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Axehole is already voting Dunia. If us three get on Dunia's wagon, that would put her into the lead. Would you two be up for that? <3

[Moonwink]

I probably won't be here much between now and eod

My preferred votes are Jack doom and (gulp) Dunia

Okay. <3

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Actually, I've got a better idea.

@MacDougall
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Axehole is already voting Dunia. If us three get on Dunia's wagon, that would put her into the lead. Would you two be up for that? <3

@Jackofhearts2005 You can get on board with this, too, if you want. <3

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Lead doesn't really matter only majority does

Given split over Dunia I doubt we get enough voters on her? I count 6 or so, we need 9

[Moonwink]

Truly never kill these people -

Nanook
Axe
Jack

Who from your POV seems to be the most okay with the three being the top wagons at the moment?

(I just realized what Mac is doing, and he jumped from town-null to okayish townread in my reads. <3)

[Moonwink]

Lead doesn't really matter only majority does

Given split over Dunia I doubt we get enough voters on her? I count 6 or so, we need 9

Is there anyone outside of you, Axe, and Jack that you think we can get 9 votes on? I'll go on one of them if absolutely necessary, but everyone seems fine with the state of the game at the moment, and I kinda don't like that?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Idk if we can get 9 on anybody.

This game gets a lot easier of Moonwink is scum. Feels so pocketty.

[MartinGG99]

FYI, the later a vote stays on me, the more likely it is to be from a wolf.

There 's more ego in this post than there is intent to find scum. I don't like that.

Why is that like....bad?

I mean if I have the facts straight this is being said at a time where Jack has 3-4 votes, so he's implicating a small number of people here rather than just making a generalization that cannot find scum.

[MartinGG99]

I slightly sympathize with it in that I've made similar-ish statements before as town the last time I was a D1 top or competing wagon in a game.

I don't have full confidence that it is irreplicable, but it does make me wonder.

[Moonwink]

Idk if we can get 9 on anybody.

This game gets a lot easier of Moonwink is scum. Feels so pocketty.

If I'm scum, I'm always fine with a no-chop. I'm legit trying to get SOMEONE chopped today. ;-; Buuut everybody is so focused on their own reads it feels like (except for Mac, who was trying to work with Omega earlier before Omega mentioned getting annoyed by that, and for Nanook, which I mentioned earlier.)

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hmm... My scumreads are at least mostly voting for two of my townreads, jack and srceen. My PoE at the very least looks something like (no particular order):

DrWilgy (generally meh), HK (tonal, active lurking), Martin (active lurking, no reads), Moonwink (on a different planet), NAA (active lurking, posturing)

Nanook had a poor response to pressure, but I'm not entirely convinced that they're a good D1 elim. I don't think we get anything more out of that whether they're town or scum.

I doubt that all three players on Jack are scum, though, so that's at least something.

Indifference is my default reaction to "pressure" lol

Except you weren't indifferent. You were flaily.

Tbf, he seemed pretty indifferent.

[Moonwink]

Idk if we can get 9 on anybody.

This game gets a lot easier of Moonwink is scum. Feels so pocketty.

If I'm scum, I'm always fine with a no-chop. I'm legit trying to get SOMEONE chopped today. ;-; Buuut everybody is so focused on their own reads it feels like (except for Mac, who was trying to work with Omega earlier before Omega mentioned getting annoyed by that, and for Nanook, which I mentioned earlier.)

Like, this is why I want to call Nanook town earlier. Like, it's cool to have your own reads and all, but at some point, we've all got to come together and agree on someone if we're going to chop someone. Nanook and Mac, I feel, WANT to work with people in that regard.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Lead doesn't really matter only majority does

Given split over Dunia I doubt we get enough voters on her? I count 6 or so, we need 9

Is there anyone outside of you, Axe, and Jack that you think we can get 9 votes on? I'll go on one of them if absolutely necessary, but everyone seems fine with the state of the game at the moment, and I kinda don't like that?

Maybe doom if we have enough people around

Otherwise it's difficult I think

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’d yeet Dunya if we have the votes.

Idk what to do with Mac’s assertion that Nanook, Axe and myself are all top town.

[Creature]

Majority lynch is so frustrating. I hate compromising somewhere I don't really feel is going to hit wolf.

[Moonwink]

Lead doesn't really matter only majority does

Given split over Dunia I doubt we get enough voters on her? I count 6 or so, we need 9

Is there anyone outside of you, Axe, and Jack that you think we can get 9 votes on? I'll go on one of them if absolutely necessary, but everyone seems fine with the state of the game at the moment, and I kinda don't like that?

Maybe doom if we have enough people around

Otherwise it's difficult I think

I'd go for Doom for what I mentioned earlier about her getting annoyed with Mac when Mac seemed to want to work with her.
@Jackofhearts2005
@MacDougall
How about Doom?

[Moonwink]

Majority lynch is so frustrating. I hate compromising somewhere I don't really feel is going to hit wolf.

Who are your preferred chops right now? Let's try to work something out.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Do we have enough for osie

[Moonwink]

I’d yeet Dunya if we have the votes.

Idk what to do with Mac’s assertion that Nanook, Axe and myself are all top town.

It's not so much the assertion that I like. It's the fact that people are A-Okay with you three being the top wagons. We need to shake things up, I feel like.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don’t have strong opinions on Doom’s alignment or really a good history of reading her.

Same for Axe but Axe feels kinda townie here.

[Marmot]

Doom not having any votes is kinda ???

Dunia voting me is ???

Moonwink probably towny but she'll be obvious at some point

Why would DOOM have votes?

[Creature]

Majority lynch is so frustrating. I hate compromising somewhere I don't really feel is going to hit wolf.

Who are your preferred chops right now? Let's try to work something out.

Still think the NANOOK wagon has better voters. I feel a bit meh about the Jack wagon.

[Moonwink]

Do we have enough for osie

Osie is a meh, but I'll work with people to chop them if it means we actually chop someone today.

[srceenplay]

I suppose I'm going to be forced to move my vote huh

[MartinGG99]

One of my mafia is on every wagon :o

This is the kind of post that looks really townie imo, because DOOM is focused on her scumreads and what they're doing in the game.

Also, probably a good note for the future if one them does end up flipping scum.

maybe I'm starting to slightly tunnel

but I feel like this is wolf marmot seeing something, as he puts it, "looks really townie imo", and then goes on to explain why it looks really towny

without thinking that maybe we could figure that ourselves if it was so towny

[Creature]

Btw, do we know who voted the earliest for each wagon?

[srceenplay]

i was first on hk

[Marmot]

FYI, the later a vote stays on me, the more likely it is to be from a wolf.

There 's more ego in this post than there is intent to find scum. I don't like that.

Why is that like....bad?

I mean if I have the facts straight this is being said at a time where Jack has 3-4 votes, so he's implicating a small number of people here rather than just making a generalization that cannot find scum.

It reads to me like he's threatening to scumread players who don't move their votes off of him pre-emptively.

I guess it could come from town too, that just isn't the vibe I got.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Doom not having any votes is kinda ???

Dunia voting me is ???

Moonwink probably towny but she'll be obvious at some point

Why would DOOM have votes?

If they're town it's very surprising they don't have some votes tbh

Somewhat surprising if they're mafia too tbh, although less so

[Moonwink]

Majority lynch is so frustrating. I hate compromising somewhere I don't really feel is going to hit wolf.

Who are your preferred chops right now? Let's try to work something out.

Still think the NANOOK wagon has better voters. I feel a bit meh about the Jack wagon.

So, I still like Martin. DrWilgy wasn't very active today, but every game I've played with them, that was a thing. Thus, I refuse to read them based on that. Aside from that, I don't get scum vibes from them? Thus, I don't have an issue with them on Jack's wagon. I feel like the only people who would make me question joining a wagon with would be screen and Axehole, but again, at this point, I'm willing to work with anyone if that's what it takes.

[Marmot]

One of my mafia is on every wagon :o

This is the kind of post that looks really townie imo, because DOOM is focused on her scumreads and what they're doing in the game.

Also, probably a good note for the future if one them does end up flipping scum.

maybe I'm starting to slightly tunnel

but I feel like this is wolf marmot seeing something, as he puts it, "looks really townie imo", and then goes on to explain why it looks really towny

without thinking that maybe we could figure that ourselves if it was so towny

5 of your last 6 posts, dating back over the last 18 hours have been about or directed at me, so yes that does qualify as a tunnel.

I would recommend focusing your attention on more than just me.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Dunya has 71 posts so she’s modkilled anyway.

[Marmot]

Doom not having any votes is kinda ???

Dunia voting me is ???

Moonwink probably towny but she'll be obvious at some point

Why would DOOM have votes?

If they're town it's very surprising they don't have some votes tbh

Somewhat surprising if they're mafia too tbh, although less so

But why?

[Marmot]

Getting 51% of votes on one player in a game with a 70-postcap is going to be a nightmare. I don't like this mechanic already.

[Creature]

Majority lynch is so frustrating. I hate compromising somewhere I don't really feel is going to hit wolf.

Who are your preferred chops right now? Let's try to work something out.

Still think the NANOOK wagon has better voters. I feel a bit meh about the Jack wagon.

So, I still like Martin. DrWilgy wasn't very active today, but every game I've played with them, that was a thing. Thus, I refuse to read them based on that. Aside from that, I don't get scum vibes from them? Thus, I don't have an issue with them on Jack's wagon. I feel like the only people who would make me question joining a wagon with would be screen and Axehole, but again, at this point, I'm willing to work with anyone if that's what it takes.

Okay, I can probably compromise here. I think I'm having a bad wolf hunting day and I'm willing to go preferably where the better wolf hunters are.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Doom not having any votes is kinda ???

Dunia voting me is ???

Moonwink probably towny but she'll be obvious at some point

Why would DOOM have votes?

If they're town it's very surprising they don't have some votes tbh

Somewhat surprising if they're mafia too tbh, although less so

But why?

They tend to attract votes particularly as town

[Marmot]

Especially with the way the wagons are panning out currently. I guess we have to rely on players being super scummy and obvious, or mech.

[Creature]

Getting 51% of votes on one player in a game with a 70-postcap is going to be a nightmare. I don't like this mechanic already.

I guess you can at least move votes in the poll without posting in the thread. But yeah, it's really frustrating because we can't expect this level of vote coordination with 17 players.

[srceenplay]

hk dunya martin
one of them?

[Creature]

hk dunya martin
one of them?

I don't really want dunya. The rest I could do.

[Moonwink]

Getting 51% of votes on one player in a game with a 70-postcap is going to be a nightmare. I don't like this mechanic already.

THIS is why I've been trying to pace myself. I had a feeling this was going to be an issue, which is why I kept mentioning the 70-postcap and the 51% votes needed to chop someone. And people wanted to scumread me for it.

[osieorb18]

I can't tell if osie over-representint his familiarity with my play is super townie or super scummy

Over-representing? I'm actively not very familiar with your play.

[Marmot]

Moonwink scumread rising.

Heading off for dinner, but will be back prob 30 minutes before deadline.

[Moonwink]

Majority lynch is so frustrating. I hate compromising somewhere I don't really feel is going to hit wolf.

Who are your preferred chops right now? Let's try to work something out.

Still think the NANOOK wagon has better voters. I feel a bit meh about the Jack wagon.

So, I still like Martin. DrWilgy wasn't very active today, but every game I've played with them, that was a thing. Thus, I refuse to read them based on that. Aside from that, I don't get scum vibes from them? Thus, I don't have an issue with them on Jack's wagon. I feel like the only people who would make me question joining a wagon with would be screen and Axehole, but again, at this point, I'm willing to work with anyone if that's what it takes.

Okay, I can probably compromise here. I think I'm having a bad wolf hunting day and I'm willing to go preferably where the better wolf hunters are.

So, just to be clear, at this time I'd prefer keeping BOTH of Jack and Nanook around. I think I have a sliiiightly stronger townread on Nanook at the moment, which is the only reason I'm still on Jack over Nanook at the moment. I'm very willing to move though.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I can't tell if osie over-representint his familiarity with my play is super townie or super scummy

Over-representing? I'm actively not very familiar with your play.

And yet you're making judgments on it reliant on knowledge of my play. Smh

[Marmot]

Spoiler: show

For legal reasons, that last post was a joke.

[Moonwink]

hk dunya martin
one of them?

Absolutely no to Martin.
Push HK more and get more votes on him, and I'll consider it. The only reason I don't like the wagon at the moment is because I think you're scum, and if that's the case, then HK is most likely town in my opinion, because the HK I've seen today is the town!HK I've seen in other games on d1.
Dunia I'll vote for anytime.

[MartinGG99]

largely caught up I think? with a bit of skimming here or there

these people I'd rather not see gone, based on gut for most of them:

mac
moon
Doom
Marmot (feels solvable)
NAA
maybe Nanook
maybe Jack

anyone else idc about preserving

[DaughterOfOmega]

I have no votes! That's crazy Nanook

[MartinGG99]

My mindset still feels like a mess but I feel like I have more to work with now?

Just no strong conclusions