RPG Mafia MAFIA WIN

[dunya]

LP has made a very townie post in this game. so townie, i may call her town for it.

anyone wanna guess which one it was?

[Syn]

Now I want to check your MU games and see if you use notes there.

Someone with more executive function go check Just Robbed A Bank Mafia, pls.

[dunya]

Now I want to check your MU games and see if you use notes there.

i wanna say also check mafia451 but who am i joking, i would never take notes in a maf451 game lmao.

[Le petit poussin]

@dunya : It was the comment about me being a tunneler that throw me off. (I prolly read it as "just a tunneler" too)

But since I was about to tunnel you for it, I just feel dumb rn. <3

Also this is moving too fast suddenly. I won't channel my Iawy because that will just strenghten the tunnel.

[dunya]

i use notes in every game ftr, as town and mafia, marmot hydrad with me and knows i keep notes.

[Le petit poussin]

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

[Scotty]

can someone summarize the scotty case?

His first post was to make a lazy other-game progression read on HK.

Since then he's supported LinearPoint's case on me and HK (which amounts to "They posted a lot and there is a difference check between them"), but then 180'd on that when other people discredited LP. (First instance of "jumping onto the train late.")

Then he quoted Dunia's reads list, which is actually contrary to his own (Dunia has HK as top town), but he says it matches his. Half an hour later he posts his updated reads, which are again, not like Dunia's.

Then he jumps late onto the train again and pushes the "top posters are wolfy" (HK and me) lazy case, after, again, other people already have.

Then he tries to say HK has TMI that I'm town (circling back around to his initial wolf read on HK).

After just being HK’s scum mate, I see it entirely relevant to compare his first posts as a parallel to that game.

Your second point of jumping on a train. I actually have no idea what you’re talking about. This whole “case” has no supporting evidence and is a lazy tunnel. I think you are bad.

The yellow highlighted is the most egregiously disingenuous. Those reads were not contrary to my own. Check my reads right before that. I’m being gaslit.

Ironically, I’m Feeling better already with HK, who has put in more work this day 1 than he did all of D1 of Rings, when he seemed lazy, pulled back and on the defensive the whole time.

Everything in this reply is inaccurate. Since your very first post in this game, you've been tunneling HK and flipping on reads after seeing how the wind is blowing.

I hate that I’m still having to respond to this.

Show your work. If you think having a latent, unsubstantiated and not oft talked about scum read on HK is tunneling, you should look in the mirror

I did show my work, tho. And again, if you have a wolf read besides "it's either HK or Syn," I'm all ears.

You're also welcome to ignore me. Nobody is taking me seriously. Replying to me keeps it on the current page.

You DIDNT show your work. You used hearsay and didn’t link any of my posts. It’s blatant vilification.
I guess my alignment chart picture I posted earlier was too abstract for you. I had LP, NAA and urist as my evil side. You and HK were more null than anything at that point.

I’m also not going to ignore someone still currently voting me, troll or not. Which you seem to imply you are.

anyway, my current scum reads are
You, dunya, dolby. LP? Haven’t made up my mind on neeko tho.

Marmot is a strange one as I respond to this progression. He doesn’t seem to have a care of who goes today. Ready to jump on me after gut reading me as town, then has the gumption to make the comment “let’s see if anyone jumps on my suspicion of dunya” more lumped into scum lean right now

[LinearPoint]

Yeah TBH I did used to take notes, but it became too much of a hassle so I stopped years ago.
Really notetaking is NAI.

[dunya]

@dunya : It was the comment about me being a tunneler that throw me off. (I prolly read it as "just a tunneler" too)

But since I was about to tunnel you for it, I just feel dumb rn. <3

Also this is moving too fast suddenly. I won't channel my Iawy because that will just strenghten the tunnel.

awww <3

no i meant you tunneled me hard because i was wolf and i hated you in that game and i couldn't kill you lol. but it was a good representation of your convictions when you have a scum read on someone.

i'm not doing it as a full blown meta read, it was only one game, but it is a noticeable difference in aggression ;p

[dunya]

anyway, my current scum reads are
You, dunya, dolby. LP? Haven’t made up my mind on neeko tho.

on one hand you love my reads on the other hand im a full blown scum read for you now?

i am sad.

[LinearPoint]

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

Do you have a reason? You never really commented on me outside of the early Scotty read.
And if you think Dunya is Mafia, why assume that I'm the wolf read Dunya is busing if any of them are busses?
Just curious what your progression here is.

[Scotty]

Can like any of you stop acting scummy for 2 seconds? It'll make finding scum a lot easier.
Unless I am just the only town posting right now, in which case I feel like Town already lost from inactivity.

Lost wolf claim.

The game begins with 13 town and 4 mafia.

But it could END with 17 lost mafia!

[Scotty]

Postcount reads and w/w reads less than a day into D1. You love to see it.

Complaining of the game state while offering no other reads than a terribly devised case on one player. You love to see it.

[Scotty]

beautiful wagon. perhaps we can temp @MacDougall to hop on a dunya d1 opportunity. they only appear once every 5 years

I forgot max was playing rofl

[Le petit poussin]

@dunya : It was the comment about me being a tunneler that throw me off. (I prolly read it as "just a tunneler" too)

But since I was about to tunnel you for it, I just feel dumb rn. <3

Also this is moving too fast suddenly. I won't channel my Iawy because that will just strenghten the tunnel.

awww <3

no i meant you tunneled me hard because i was wolf and i hated you in that game and i couldn't kill you lol. but it was a good representation of your convictions when you have a scum read on someone.

i'm not doing it as a full blown meta read, it was only one game, but it is a noticeable difference in aggression ;p

Oh right. let just says I've been wrong enough recently that I am playing it easy mode.

► Show Spoiler

Or am I?

[Scotty]

The last time dunya resorted to her "notes" on Day 1 was in Magic the Gathering Mafia about a year ago.

i could go for ted for a deflated wim but i liked his answer to urist on LC (which was one of my biggest gripes) and genuinely believe he was confused on the mana so i dont feel like he's the right d1 yeet.

Do you have a take on Made?


[VOTE: Made] aubergine

I'm coming back here because I feel more confident on this one then ted being a hit.

my notes read "opportunistic" "sounds pretty genuine" "is he doing wiofm" "bad mana plan"

lol

dunia was a wolf in this game.

oof

Is this like Nutella’s coffee tell?

[Scotty]

scotty is always hot

I’m married

[Scotty]

Actually tho…I’m feeling your posts this game, while I agree with some of the wolf reads, come off as…I dunno. Partial. You have a lot of outs here. 5 wolves to 8 town is..just enough.

I can’t put my finger on it

what do you mean my list comes off as partial?

I couldn’t put my finger on it. Partial wasn’t the right word. Whimsy? Your posts are more whimsy and you look like you and suspicion is like oil and water

which of my suspicions seem whimsy to you exactly?

i would like to solidify them to the thread if it helps read me better.

No, your posts are more whimsy. It seems like every other one has an emoji or a smilie. I dunno if that’s NAI, but it comes off as someone that is trying hard to maintain a positive presence.

I just don’t remember you doing it with as much frequency in the last few times we’ve played together

[Le petit poussin]

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

Do you have a reason? You never really commented on me outside of the early Scotty read.
And if you think Dunya is Mafia, why assume that I'm the wolf read Dunya is busing if any of them are busses?
Just curious what your progression here is.

I just don't think you have towntold yet. And the way you went after them was a bit theatrical? No progression here.

[Scotty]

(To be clear, the above quote is from that game, not from this one)

Marmot, how do you have such a grasp on Dunia's posting history that not only do you know she's only mentioned notes once, but it was specifically in a game that happened a full year ago?

Shielding your teammate?

[Syn]

You DIDNT show your work. You used hearsay and didn’t link any of my posts. It’s blatant vilification.

Okay, I'll go through the effort of putting a direct quote of yours under each line of my summarized case. This will be a good use of time and will surely not be a waste.

[Scotty]

anyway, my current scum reads are
You, dunya, dolby. LP? Haven’t made up my mind on neeko tho.

on one hand you love my reads on the other hand im a full blown scum read for you now?

i am sad.

Do you town or scum read for this reversal?

[Scotty]

anyway, my current scum reads are
You, dunya, dolby. LP? Haven’t made up my mind on neeko tho.

on one hand you love my reads on the other hand im a full blown scum read for you now?

i am sad.

Do you town or scum read for this reversal?

Me*

[Le petit poussin]

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

Do you have a reason? You never really commented on me outside of the early Scotty read.
And if you think Dunya is Mafia, why assume that I'm the wolf read Dunya is busing if any of them are busses?
Just curious what your progression here is.

I just don't think you have towntold yet. And the way you went after them was a bit theatrical? No progression here.

Like your associative read on Marmot can go either way really.
About dunya: I am not sure about anything. Just didn't like a couple of posts. But then that wagon garnered 2 more votes way too quickly for my tastes.

[Syn]

can someone summarize the scotty case?

His first post was to make a lazy other-game progression read on HK.

ok goodbye I have to eat dinner now

This is the same post progression you made in our last game, in which you were bad

Since then he's supported LinearPoint's case on me and HK (which amounts to "They posted a lot and there is a difference check between them"), but then 180'd on that when other people discredited LP. (First instance of "jumping onto the train late.")

Alright time to decide which of HK and Syn are the wolf who is putting way to much effort into making a presence off the bat.
I'll bet Syn.

Why not both? Why not zoidberg?

LP much too serious this early in the game.

LP is a common orc in a foul swamp, and the merry band of adventures are just trying to quest

Then he quoted Dunia's reads list, which is actually contrary to his own (Dunia has HK as top town), but he says it matches his. Half an hour later he posts his updated reads, which are again, not like Dunia's.

gth town:
hk
syn
scotty
mac
rask (le petit poussin)

gth LP is mafia with tmi on scotty being town

gth dolby mafia

always yeet urist first

Either you are pocketing me or we have the exact same reads

Nah I think dunya town. Ima change up how I approach D1s

Out the gate I’m gonna start trying to identify towntrusts more.
Townreads: Dunya, chicken, Wilgy
Slight Townlean: TSP for his shitty spank post

Then he jumps late onto the train again and pushes the "top posters are wolfy" (HK and me) lazy case, after, again, other people already have.

Dayachi has some work to do if she’s gonna be NK’d tonight

I also look at the top posters, and I think it unlikely that the top 3 in posters are all town. I’d say 1 are not in: HK, Syn, chicken. One of HK or Syn. I’d lean HK however

Then he tries to say HK has TMI that I'm town (circling back around to his initial wolf read on HK).

I know the reads are independent, it's just intriguing that multiple people mentioned those two players in the same breath without being related.

Of the 4 high posters (Syn, hk, Scotty, petit), I only TR petit and Scotty atm. I asked Mac to expound on his hk read, but I agree that he does look wolfy. I don't see what Syn has done to deserve a TR, but hk gave him one pretty quickly.

That is a bit of TMI eh

Is this still hearsay and vilification, Scotty?

[Syn]

Also lol at Scotty's wolf list becoming: Syn, the town of his HK-or-Syn tunnel; Dunia, the person he says he agrees with entirely; Dolby, a weak read immediately dropped; and LP, a read that only came after seeing which way the wind was blowing and after he'd already agreed with her.

[Le petit poussin]

can someone summarize the scotty case?

His first post was to make a lazy other-game progression read on HK.

ok goodbye I have to eat dinner now

This is the same post progression you made in our last game, in which you were bad

Since then he's supported LinearPoint's case on me and HK (which amounts to "They posted a lot and there is a difference check between them"), but then 180'd on that when other people discredited LP. (First instance of "jumping onto the train late.")

Alright time to decide which of HK and Syn are the wolf who is putting way to much effort into making a presence off the bat.
I'll bet Syn.

Why not both? Why not zoidberg?

LP much too serious this early in the game.

LP is a common orc in a foul swamp, and the merry band of adventures are just trying to quest

Then he quoted Dunia's reads list, which is actually contrary to his own (Dunia has HK as top town), but he says it matches his. Half an hour later he posts his updated reads, which are again, not like Dunia's.

gth town:
hk
syn
scotty
mac
rask (le petit poussin)

gth LP is mafia with tmi on scotty being town

gth dolby mafia

always yeet urist first

Either you are pocketing me or we have the exact same reads

Nah I think dunya town. Ima change up how I approach D1s

Out the gate I’m gonna start trying to identify towntrusts more.
Townreads: Dunya, chicken, Wilgy
Slight Townlean: TSP for his shitty spank post

Then he jumps late onto the train again and pushes the "top posters are wolfy" (HK and me) lazy case, after, again, other people already have.

Dayachi has some work to do if she’s gonna be NK’d tonight

I also look at the top posters, and I think it unlikely that the top 3 in posters are all town. I’d say 1 are not in: HK, Syn, chicken. One of HK or Syn. I’d lean HK however

Then he tries to say HK has TMI that I'm town (circling back around to his initial wolf read on HK).

I know the reads are independent, it's just intriguing that multiple people mentioned those two players in the same breath without being related.

Of the 4 high posters (Syn, hk, Scotty, petit), I only TR petit and Scotty atm. I asked Mac to expound on his hk read, but I agree that he does look wolfy. I don't see what Syn has done to deserve a TR, but hk gave him one pretty quickly.

That is a bit of TMI eh

Is this still hearsay and vilification, Scotty?

[Syn]

Dunia doesn't mention notes in her wolf game on MU, sad. That would have been funny.

[Syn]

I see your w/w reads and give you the vaunted w/w/w/w read: Scotty, Marmot, Dolby, and LP.

I will not be taking questions.

[LinearPoint]

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

Do you have a reason? You never really commented on me outside of the early Scotty read.
And if you think Dunya is Mafia, why assume that I'm the wolf read Dunya is busing if any of them are busses?
Just curious what your progression here is.

I just don't think you have towntold yet. And the way you went after them was a bit theatrical? No progression here.

Good. I take much pride if people can't tell my Town from Mafia play.
Better work hard for reading me.
Ah who am I kidding, I always die at night before reads on me matter.

[Syn]

[dyachei]

i think syn is very towny here

I kind of like scotty's fire back at syn? anyone know if he does that as a wolf?

[Scotty]

can someone summarize the scotty case?

His first post was to make a lazy other-game progression read on HK.

ok goodbye I have to eat dinner now

This is the same post progression you made in our last game, in which you were bad

Since then he's supported LinearPoint's case on me and HK (which amounts to "They posted a lot and there is a difference check between them"), but then 180'd on that when other people discredited LP. (First instance of "jumping onto the train late.")

Alright time to decide which of HK and Syn are the wolf who is putting way to much effort into making a presence off the bat.
I'll bet Syn.

Why not both? Why not zoidberg?

LP much too serious this early in the game.

LP is a common orc in a foul swamp, and the merry band of adventures are just trying to quest

Then he quoted Dunia's reads list, which is actually contrary to his own (Dunia has HK as top town), but he says it matches his. Half an hour later he posts his updated reads, which are again, not like Dunia's.

gth town:
hk
syn
scotty
mac
rask (le petit poussin)

gth LP is mafia with tmi on scotty being town

gth dolby mafia

always yeet urist first

Either you are pocketing me or we have the exact same reads

Nah I think dunya town. Ima change up how I approach D1s

Out the gate I’m gonna start trying to identify towntrusts more.
Townreads: Dunya, chicken, Wilgy
Slight Townlean: TSP for his shitty spank post

Then he jumps late onto the train again and pushes the "top posters are wolfy" (HK and me) lazy case, after, again, other people already have.

Dayachi has some work to do if she’s gonna be NK’d tonight

I also look at the top posters, and I think it unlikely that the top 3 in posters are all town. I’d say 1 are not in: HK, Syn, chicken. One of HK or Syn. I’d lean HK however

Then he tries to say HK has TMI that I'm town (circling back around to his initial wolf read on HK).

I know the reads are independent, it's just intriguing that multiple people mentioned those two players in the same breath without being related.

Of the 4 high posters (Syn, hk, Scotty, petit), I only TR petit and Scotty atm. I asked Mac to expound on his hk read, but I agree that he does look wolfy. I don't see what Syn has done to deserve a TR, but hk gave him one pretty quickly.

That is a bit of TMI eh

Is this still hearsay and vilification, Scotty?

Your presentation of me “jumping on the wagon” was what I didn’t understand. Because you and HK were questioning LP and then I make a separate scum read on them means I’m jumping on a wagon, I gotcha. Thanks for linking that.

I think the miscommunication you seem to be linking with the funya reads, if it is still a good-faith link, is you didn’t understand my alignment chart, where I had urist, LP and NAA as ‘evil’. You are perhaps reading into my words of “exact” reads as quite literal, which I guess I don’t have a great defense against. I meant it more for her scum reads.

RE: jumping on the wagon again. You linked me saying that I was looking at top posters having a lurking mafia, and then say that I am just parroting others. What others? It was an independent read, so once again I must ask for citations there.

Also does it even matter if I jumped on a wagon? Unless you think it’s disingenuous, which you haven’t expressly said. This entire case and backlogging comes off to me as a crucification because I didn’t dot my I’s and cross my t’s

[Scotty]

Also lol at Scotty's wolf list becoming: Syn, the town of his HK-or-Syn tunnel; Dunia, the person he says he agrees with entirely; Dolby, a weak read immediately dropped; and LP, a read that only came after seeing which way the wind was blowing and after he'd already agreed with her.

You know, as the game moves forward, reads can change, right?
This has turned into a discrediting of a witness on the stand.

Yep, at one point I leaned HK the wolf of the two of you. Then you came out with this bullshit.

Yep, at one point I agreed with Dubai’s reads. Then the more she talked, the more ‘polite’ it appeared.

I never dropped my dolby read. He’s done nothing to appear town. But no one is going to vote him out D1 unfortunately. That’s just who he is as a player.

I don’t understand your concern with my LP read. I’ve basically been sus of LP all game. Despite them being one of my only defenders.

[Syn]

I never dropped my dolby read. He’s done nothing to appear town. But no one is going to vote him out D1 unfortunately. That’s just who he is as a player.

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

[Scotty]

i think syn is very towny here

I kind of like scotty's fire back at syn? anyone know if he does that as a wolf?

I’m snippy when shitty cases are thrown at me regardless of alignment

[Scotty]

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I never dropped my dolby read. He’s done nothing to appear town. But no one is going to vote him out D1 unfortunately. That’s just who he is as a player.

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine
[/quote]
lol ok
[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

As good a train as any to jump on

[Scotty]

I’m still firmly in the Syn/dunya bad camp.

Need to reassess everyone else later when I’m not going to dinner

[Syn]

i think syn is very towny here

I kind of like scotty's fire back at syn? anyone know if he does that as a wolf?

I’m snippy when shitty cases are thrown at me regardless of alignment

Snip snap! Snip snap! Snip snap! You have no idea the physical toll that three cases have on a person.

[dyachei]

I’m still firmly in the Syn/dunya bad camp.

Need to reassess everyone else later when I’m not going to dinner

so you understand syn's POV on you better now and still think he's a wolf?

[Syn]

He'll change his mind when I NK him.

I mean, what?

[dyachei]

that just doesnt track for me

[Syn]

8 out of 17 players are throwing votes around. Embarrassing.

[DrWilgy]

do you have any wolves?

No, not really. I'm spending my D1 trying to find townies and then going from there.

Why Dolby town?

[DrWilgy]

Dayachi has some work to do if she’s gonna be NK’d tonight

I also look at the top posters, and I think it unlikely that the top 3 in posters are all town. I’d say 1 are not in: HK, Syn, chicken. One of HK or Syn. I’d lean HK however

dw, I'll still kill them N1.

Dyachei is very well-educated, if you're town it would be gamethrowing to kill her regardless of her alignment.

Stop being wolfy

[DrWilgy]

Dayachi has some work to do if she’s gonna be NK’d tonight

I also look at the top posters, and I think it unlikely that the top 3 in posters are all town. I’d say 1 are not in: HK, Syn, chicken. One of HK or Syn. I’d lean HK however

This is another instance of someone jumping onto a train very late. Why are postcount reads being made twelve hours into D1? Why are multiple people trying to make that read?

This happened in Highway Heist (as Scotty should remember) and all such targets were town.

Wilgy was hard-core POE'd like 8 hours into the say simply because he hadn't posted when everyone else had like 50+ posts

Was bullshit I'll tell you.

[DrWilgy]

dunya is mafia

I am apathetic to this read but I will be watching with great interest.

I'm convinced that there is a W in Urist/Dunya. But idk which one.

The take Dunya gave in Urist early was fire.

But some of the more recent stuff has been... Meh.

[Scotty]

I’m still firmly in the Syn/dunya bad camp.

Need to reassess everyone else later when I’m not going to dinner

so you understand syn's POV on you better now and still think he's a wolf?

He gave me something tangible to respond to, and I am still currently in the camp that, while logical, he’s not making it from a genuine origin. His other comments on game state and his approach so far to the game still feels scummy as well.

[Le petit poussin]

Dayachi has some work to do if she’s gonna be NK’d tonight

I also look at the top posters, and I think it unlikely that the top 3 in posters are all town. I’d say 1 are not in: HK, Syn, chicken. One of HK or Syn. I’d lean HK however

dw, I'll still kill them N1.

Dyachei is very well-educated, if you're town it would be gamethrowing to kill her regardless of her alignment.

Stop being wolfy

Have a town point for this (like I had the same reaction reading it earlier, and it's hella partnery)

[TonyStarkPrime]

someone please claim wolf