dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:45 pm
I wish we could go back to yeeting Scotty.
I'd really rather not.
If I had my druthers I'd protect you and scotty today and try to push over LP, Jack, or TSP tbh
But TSP and I are rlly townie so why would you do that?
cause neither of you are rlly townie
the biggest thing I remember TSP for is calling you town and then not saying why other than "because he is". The biggest thing I remember you for is pushing dya in a way that doesn't allow for counterarguments because you've said you're waiting for dya to do something, and then also saying "it's not really a wolf read it's a "do something read""
neither of which fill me with the utmost confidence that you're town.
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:41 pm
i think LP has done and said a lot of things that don't make sense as either alignment. i think that makes her an easy target if she's town.
Arguably everything either makes sense as both alignments or as neither alignment.
i think it's a scale, and that determining where a person's actions as a whole lie on that scale is the only way to scumhunt sans meta.
ftr though I wasn't giving a town read on LP, just saying what i think is the case if she is.
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:45 pm
I wish we could go back to yeeting Scotty.
I'd really rather not.
If I had my druthers I'd protect you and scotty today and try to push over LP, Jack, or TSP tbh
But TSP and I are rlly townie so why would you do that?
cause neither of you are rlly townie
the biggest thing I remember TSP for is calling you town and then not saying why other than "because he is". The biggest thing I remember you for is pushing dya in a way that doesn't allow for counterarguments because you've said you're waiting for dya to do something, and then also saying "it's not really a wolf read it's a "do something read""
neither of which fill me with the utmost confidence that you're town.
3 players have expressed understanding of the LP case as “LP is posting weird things” with a fourth player agreeing, saying that makes LP disconnected and therefore town.
Surely there’s more to the case than that. Give me the rest.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:43 pm
I think my entire handling of Dya was fucking class. You just misinterpreted the first post of it and threw a fit.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:43 pm
I think my entire handling of Dya was fucking class. You just misinterpreted the first post of it and threw a fit.
You handled dya?
I had a number of back and forth posts on Dya, resulting in a better understanding of her positions and alignment than I had before, yeah.
I just had a "How many shots would it take for me to get with Soundwave" come across my tiktok page and now I'm terrified of what corner of hell I've stumbled across.
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:45 pm
I wish we could go back to yeeting Scotty.
I'd really rather not.
If I had my druthers I'd protect you and scotty today and try to push over LP, Jack, or TSP tbh
But TSP and I are rlly townie so why would you do that?
cause neither of you are rlly townie
the biggest thing I remember TSP for is calling you town and then not saying why other than "because he is". The biggest thing I remember you for is pushing dya in a way that doesn't allow for counterarguments because you've said you're waiting for dya to do something, and then also saying "it's not really a wolf read it's a "do something read""
neither of which fill me with the utmost confidence that you're town.
Have you read me and TSP’s posts?
I have read many posts, some of which are yours and TSPs.
I had something where I complained about TSPTSD earlier, lemme go dig that up
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:56 pm
I just had a "How many shots would it take for me to get with Soundwave" come across my tiktok page and now I'm terrified of what corner of hell I've stumbled across.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:56 pm
I just had a "How many shots would it take for me to get with Soundwave" come across my tiktok page and now I'm terrified of what corner of hell I've stumbled across.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:56 pm
I just had a "How many shots would it take for me to get with Soundwave" come across my tiktok page and now I'm terrified of what corner of hell I've stumbled across.
Soundwave the transformer?
Yes
I'm under the impression that Soundwave is ace so probably like you'd never pull it off but idk maybe I'm just not his type.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:56 pm
I just had a "How many shots would it take for me to get with Soundwave" come across my tiktok page and now I'm terrified of what corner of hell I've stumbled across.
Soundwave the transformer?
Yes
I'm under the impression that Soundwave is ace so probably like you'd never pull it off but idk maybe I'm just not his type.
Yeah, Ace probs accurate. Is also a great father to all his little tape children.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:56 pm
I just had a "How many shots would it take for me to get with Soundwave" come across my tiktok page and now I'm terrified of what corner of hell I've stumbled across.
Soundwave the transformer?
Yes
I'm under the impression that Soundwave is ace so probably like you'd never pull it off but idk maybe I'm just not his type.
Yeah, Ace probs accurate. Is also a great father to all his little tape children.
I always viewed them as like...pets. Idk. I haven't read the IDW Transformers. I would be unsurprised if they gave Soundwave a lot of character development there since he's one of the more iconic decepticons but like....most of the 80s characters don't have a bunch in the way of personality.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:18 pm
Starscream was always my favorite. Loved how his personality was "I stab Megatron in the back and I'm not shy about it."
I've been on a spree lately picking up all the ones I wanted as a kid but never got. Today my OG Dinobots arrived.
I grabbed the reissues of the OG Seekers (Starscream, Thundercracker, and Skywarp) a few weeks ago.
does the Death By a thousand cuts work only individually? Like, if I personally target, say, sig 3 times in a row is the only way that works? Or is it 3 uses in total combined from anyone using it on Dolby?
Anyway, I’m assuming it’s the former only. I feel like it’s most efficient for every mafia member to choose warrior Lev 1 and not advance in that tree ever. Then do death of a thousand cuts every night on the most towny player. Maybe putting one into healing and stay defensive for errant poisons. If I were mafia, I’d look at each member targeting a different towny player every night, and hope they all stay around until n3 at least to finish off their thousand cuts.
It’s probably why mac died n1. And whoever people view as town will probably die by n3. It also explains why we’ve been having some weird wagons today with odd shielding.
I’m tired, but I’ve just been thinking.
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:05 pm
does the Death By a thousand cuts work only individually? Like, if I personally target, say, sig 3 times in a row is the only way that works? Or is it 3 uses in total combined from anyone using it on Dolby?
Anyway, I’m assuming it’s the former only. I feel like it’s most efficient for every mafia member to choose warrior Lev 1 and not advance in that tree ever. Then do death of a thousand cuts every night on the most towny player. Maybe putting one into healing and stay defensive for errant poisons. If I were mafia, I’d look at each member targeting a different towny player every night, and hope they all stay around until n3 at least to finish off their thousand cuts.
It’s probably why mac died n1. And whoever people view as town will probably die by n3. It also explains why we’ve been having some weird wagons today with odd shielding.
I’m tired, but I’ve just been thinking.
We each have a thousand cuts count. So five people can’t team up to one night somebody. You can get cut 16 times as long as 4 different players are doing it.
But yeah, that would probably be my wolf strategy as well. See if you get get 5 nightkills on N5 or whatever.
I don’t think you’d actually pull it off and I don’t know if the math works out that 1+X nightkills is even useful on N5 (cause I don’t care) but that was my initial thought for “best wolf strategy” and then I moved on to thinking it was poisoning and then I discarded that and didn’t come up with a new one cause I don’t really care.
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:52 pm
Ok Scotty, can you do the same thing for town?
Sure.
So every town member should be putting in character points to block block block. That’s how we heal, that’s how we conquer the Timberwolves, Wildcats. You’re gonna hear lots of things shouted out on that court, lots of singing, and maybe a little dancing too. But when the whistle blows, you just gotta get your head in the game and make sure the Wolves can’t shoot.
Arms in, Wildcats on 3
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:25 pm
But yeah, that would probably be my wolf strategy as well. See if you get get 5 nightkills on N5 or whatever.
I don’t think you’d actually pull it off and I don’t know if the math works out that 1+X nightkills is even useful on N5 (cause I don’t care) but that was my initial thought for “best wolf strategy” and then I moved on to thinking it was poisoning and then I discarded that and didn’t come up with a new one cause I don’t really care.
If wolves do it right, and don’t get blocked and don’t miss in that 5% chance, they could conceivably get 5 kills off on N3 if all are still alive.
It’s fucking broken if we don’t lynch a wolf today.
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
I think poisoning is a likely enough strategy or plan B that we should have some people take Pally 1 on the appropriate night (tonight?) but that’s the extent it matters. There’s not really an anti thousand cuts strategy but getting 5 uninterrupted targets in a row and both those players surviving until night 5 (or whatever the number is) is so unlikely, I don’t think we need a strategy to defend against it. Wolves get maybe one extra kill if they go for that strategy.
Wolves have absolutely no need to put in points to Druid. And they only need to funnel points into the healing so they can all heal themselves at a moment’s notice.
I haven’t done the math, but the slow and steady method not only has a higher chance to succeed, it can’t be healed. Mafia just need to stay alive
Which is why someone who has been shielding today could be making a huge effort to keep a player alive to take out their target n3. They just have to survive another 2 days
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:31 pm
Wolves have absolutely no need to put in points to Druid. And they only need to funnel points into the healing so they can all heal themselves at a moment’s notice.
I haven’t done the math, but the slow and steady method not only has a higher chance to succeed, it can’t be healed. Mafia just need to stay alive
Which is why someone who has been shielding today could be making a huge effort to keep a player alive to take out their target n3. They just have to survive another 2 days
Right…which doesn’t change my reads cause it’s you/Dunya/HK/Dya shielding each other.
I mean, Tony and I are kinda shielding each other but there aren’t really serious pushes on us.
I’ve somewhat defended LP but I don’t even townread her tbh.
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:31 pm
Wolves have absolutely no need to put in points to Druid. And they only need to funnel points into the healing so they can all heal themselves at a moment’s notice.
I haven’t done the math, but the slow and steady method not only has a higher chance to succeed, it can’t be healed. Mafia just need to stay alive
Which is why someone who has been shielding today could be making a huge effort to keep a player alive to take out their target n3. They just have to survive another 2 days
Right…which doesn’t change my reads cause it’s you/Dunya/HK/Dya shielding each other.
I mean, Tony and I are kinda shielding each other but there aren’t really serious pushes on us.
I’ve somewhat defended LP but I don’t even townread her tbh.
I haven’t shielded anyone
You both are absolutely steering the thread away from LP like your life depends on it
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Urist is someone I’ve been thinking about to. Whenever he posts, he posts just enough to have me nod along, but I’m still in full shrug mode. He’s kinda reminding me of Russell Crowe in Les Mis: he hits all the notes, but isn’t exactly the shiniest star on screen.
It’s hard to describe what his takes are this game for me. Though my memory is fading
Will revisit later
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:31 pm
Wolves have absolutely no need to put in points to Druid. And they only need to funnel points into the healing so they can all heal themselves at a moment’s notice.
I haven’t done the math, but the slow and steady method not only has a higher chance to succeed, it can’t be healed. Mafia just need to stay alive
Which is why someone who has been shielding today could be making a huge effort to keep a player alive to take out their target n3. They just have to survive another 2 days
Right…which doesn’t change my reads cause it’s you/Dunya/HK/Dya shielding each other.
I mean, Tony and I are kinda shielding each other but there aren’t really serious pushes on us.
I’ve somewhat defended LP but I don’t even townread her tbh.
I haven’t shielded anyone
You both are absolutely steering the thread away from LP like your life depends on it
I keep asking people to tell me why LP is mafia. It’s not my fault nobody can answer. It’s yours. You answered with a joke. If anyone wants me to yeet LP over my actual scumreads, they have to actually case LP.
That is a different thing from me pointing out specific scummy things that you and Dunya have done and I get back “well that’s not damning” from Dya or HK.
I’m using reads to determine who I try to yeet. Players insisting we yeet LP and not yeet Dunya seem to be doing so for gigantic question mark reasoning.
One of those is more likely to be wolf shielding than the other.
You town and think I’m wrong? Or lying? Fucking argue it. Don’t just be like “Jack will do anything to protect LP so I bet they’re wolves” cause you and I both know that isn’t the case.
I’m actually surprised NAA hasn’t come in with mathematical jargon and probabilities for optimal specialization. I seem to recall he (and urist) coming in hot in Pandas talking about shooting odds in that mechanic.
All i remember from NAA’s D1 was farting numbers for my game. Which is a niche subject and, actually, didn’t even apply to this game in the end.
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Fiddler on the Roof
